The Unstoppable Wallet is being recommended quite often in recent times as a good and open-source multi-coin client. But the truth is, I have never heard anyone say they use it or that they have used it extensively for a longer period of time. I would love to see some feedback by those people. It's always just a recommendation, where Unstoppable Wallet gets proposed to someone, and that's it. I will try to install it later on on my phone just to see how it works. 

Ne koristim Ledger Live za slanje bitcoina pa i ne znam detalje. Ali sam koristio i dalje koristim kod povremenih aktivnosti sa altovima i nisam imao problema.

Velika je razlika kad trošiš 1 UTXO u odnosu na to kad trošiš 20, 30, 40, itd. Ako si radio ikad konsolidaciju inputa preko Ledgera, onda je tu i Electrum spor. Treba svaki taj UTXO provjeriti i potpisati sa odgovarajučim privatnim ključem. A to može da potraje. Ali mislim da je Electrum ovaj proces značajno ubrzao u jednom od svojih zadnjih ažuriranja.

Te coin control opcije su između ostalog razlog što preferiram Electrum a ne LL kad je BTC u pitanju. LL dozvoljava samo okrugle brojeve kad odabireš naknade. 1, 2, itd. Ali kod Electruma imaš 1, 1.1, 1.2... Ledger Live isto ima replace-by-fee i primitivan coin control koji ti dozvoljava da izabereš koje UTXO-e želiš potrošiti ali nije to ni blizu funkcionalnosti kakvu nudi Electrum.

Who knows who did the coding. It might even be based on a codebase of a perfectly fine and open-source project that was just modified and became closed-source after that. None of the claims made in the OP can be independently verified or confirmed. And because they are brand-new, no one is going to take their word for it.

As long as the websites you are trying to access have not restricted users from your country, it's ok to use that method. You aren't tricking or lying to the site, you are doing it to your government and bypassing their restrictions. But be aware of the following point: some crypto casinos have a rule that states that players who reside in territories that have banned online or crypto gambling aren't allowed to use their platforms. If your country has banned its citizens from accessing Sportsbet.io, that rule would apply to you if Sportsbet.io mentions something like that in their TOS. Check it with the casino support just to be on the safe side.

Ledger Live će ti i dalje trebati kad budeš radio nadogradnju firmware-a i ažurirao BTC i druge kripto aplikacije na svom Nano novčaniku. To nažalost mora ići preko Ledger Live aplikacije.Trebao si je ostaviti nek stoji na računaru a Electrum je svakako puno bolja opcija kada govorimo o slanju bitcoina sa Ledgera.

Baš je ludilo ovih dana na bitcoin chainu. Konstantno mempool pokazuje da ima 30.000-40.000 nepotvrđenih transakcija. 

Seed od 24 riječi ti garantuje sigurnost od 256 bita. U engleskom dijelu foruma reče ti 256 bits of security (nekad se govorilo entropy). Seed od 12 riječi ti daje sigurnost od 128 bita. Duplo manja sigurnost ali i dalje dovoljna sigurna da je potrebno nekoliko miliona godina da se provali tačan redosljijed riječi u seedu. Ali ono što je bitno je da je sigurnost bitcoin privatnih ključeva samo 128 bita. Nema veze što ti je seed od 24 riječi ili ako nekad bude 48 kad sigurnost privatnih ključeva ostaje na istom. I ko želi da "napadne" bitcoin može na metu da stavi privatne ključeve a ne seed riječi.

To bi ti bilo kao da na utvrdi imaš zidove i željezna vrata od pola metra gdje nijedna vojska ne može proći ali si zaboravio da imaš veliki prozor koji se može razbiti kamenjem. Naravno, sigurnost privatnih ključeva se ne može porediti sa staklenim prozorom ali dajem samo slikovit primjer.   

The table has been updated.
It now shows the most significant Lightning Network discussions from the end of November 2021 until today!

These threads were added to the table in OP:

2022

|	Thread Title	|	Link	|	Date of Creation	|
|	Transfer BTC between lightning and segwit	|	5421782.0	|	November 17, 2022	|
|	Lightning Address would you use it with a domain you don't control?	|	5420197.0	|	November 09, 2022	|
|	Bitcoin Lightning Swap App	|	5416912.0	|	October 12, 2022	|
|	Offline Bitcoin Lightning payments will soon be possible	|	5416303.0	|	October 07, 2022	|
|	Lightning channel DISCONNECTED from coingate -- how to recover unspent funds?	|	5415438.0	|	September 30, 2022	|
|	How can I connect lightning network wallet to main blockchain?	|	5414468.0	|	September 22, 2022	|
|	sphinx - lightning hardware wallet	|	5414245.0	|	September 20, 2022	|
|	Anyone up for Beta Testing a Prototype on Lightning Network?	|	5414038.0	|	September 18, 2022	|
|	[In Development] Lightning forum tips	|	5411988.0	|	September 01, 2022	|
|	Native lightning Bitcoin payments by card are faster than visa/mastercard	|	5411251.0	|	August 26, 2022	|
|	Delivering lightning invoices similar to keysend	|	5411213.0	|	August 25, 2022	|
|	I'm wondering when btc network will launch usdt in the lightning network?	|	5409402.0	|	August 10, 2022	|
|	Electrum trampoline lightning funded but 0 can send and receive	|	5407591.0	|	July 25, 2022	|
|	How to proof ownership of BTCs when using lightning network?	|	5406196.0	|	July 14, 2022	|
|	Robosats Bitcoin Lightning on-/off-ramp (no KYC, P2P, Tor)	|	5405549.0	|	July 07, 2022	|
|	Isn't Lightning Network bad for Bitcoin?	|	5404435.0	|	June 29, 2022	|
|	[Lightning] Receiving capacity stucks at 0 BTC	|	5404254.0	|	June 27, 2022	|
|	Lightning Send stuck "in progress"	|	5404100.0	|	June 26, 2022	|
|	Best Wallets for Bitcoin lightning network	|	5403906.0	|	June 24, 2022	|
|	What is Bitcoin lightning network - simple explain	|	5403508.0	|	June 21, 2022	|
|	Prospects for a simplified Lightning Network	|	5403058.0	|	June 18, 2022	|
|	How does the lightning network make btc more private?	|	5402524.0	|	June 14, 2022	|
|	Bitcoin Lightning Network Reaches Its All-Time High.	|	5402002.0	|	June 09, 2022	|
|	Best open source lightning wallets with direct APK installers	|	5401749.0	|	June 08, 2022	|
|	Creating a ERC20 type of Token/Coin on Bitcoin Blockchain or Lightning Network	|	5401016.0	|	June 01, 2022	|
|	What is the best custodial lightning payment processor these days?	|	5400167.0	|	May 25, 2022	|
|	Time to get the txn from lightning network to btc blockchain	|	5400116.0	|	May 25, 2022	|
|	Bitcoin Lightning network - How to join it?	|	5399996.0	|	May 24, 2022	|
|	Bitcoin Lightning Coin Flip Telegram Bot - provably fair %0.5 house edge	|	5399567.0	|	May 21, 2022	|
|	Meet The Bolt Card, an NFC-enabled Lightning card	|	5399120.0	|	May 18, 2022	|
|	Bitcoin A global and free currency through the Lightning network.	|	5397740.0	|	May 08, 2022	|
|	Kraken has lowered Bitcoin Lightning withdrawal fee to ZERO	|	5396649.0	|	April 29, 2022	|
|	Interesting projects/websites based on lightning⚡	|	5395854.0	|	April 24, 2022	|
|	Question for regular casino players. Will you use Lightning if available?	|	5395186.0	|	April 19, 2022	|
|	Using lightning for bitcoin low fee on exchanges	|	5394945.0	|	April 17, 2022	|
|	Jack Mallers’ Strike Announces Shopify Integration for Bitcoin Lightning Payment	|	5393622.0	|	April 07, 2022	|
|	Robinhood to enable the lightning network	|	5393592.0	|	April 07, 2022	|
|	Taro: A new protocol for multi-asset Bitcoin and Lightning	|	5393585.0	|	April 07, 2022	|
|	BitPay integrates the lightning network ⚡	|	5393381.0	|	April 06, 2022	|
|	Kraken Exchange Integrates with Bitcoin's Lightning Network	|	5392509.0	|	April 01, 2022	|
|	Feedback Wanted | blindmixer.com | blind-sig | lightning | chaumian bank	|	5392001.0	|	March 29, 2022	|
|	An interesting project about lightning in the browser	|	5389204.0	|	March 11, 2022	|
|	Gambling site with Lightning Network	|	5389303.0	|	March 11, 2022	|
|	Why doesn't c-lightning connect you to a list of peers by default?	|	5389258.0	|	March 11, 2022	|
|	BTCPayServer thinks that my BTC & c-lightning nodes are syncing forever.	|	5388797.0	|	March 08, 2022	|
|	Bitcoin (Lightning Network) Invoice	|	5388517.0	|	March 06, 2022	|
|	Open source stack to build your own lightning node	|	5388241.0	|	March 04, 2022	|
|	Lightning Labs (devs of LND) trying to kill open source and hijack the protocol	|	5387173.0	|	February 24, 2022	|
|	Can I change Lightning invoice to pay with regular Bitcoin (on-chain)?	|	5387052.0	|	February 23, 2022	|
|	Lightning Labs (LND) associated with WEF?	|	5386437.0	|	February 20, 2022	|
|	Trezor Shop now accepts Lightning Payments	|	5386245.0	|	February 18, 2022	|
|	Is keysend the best way to transfer custom data between peers with lightning?	|	5384285.0	|	February 04, 2022	|
|	C-Lightning backup guide	|	5384133.0	|	February 03, 2022	|
|	Testing C-Lightning v0.10.2 Offers! [BOLT12]	|	5383567.0	|	January 30, 2022	|
|	Is it possible to reveal / prove the amount of bitcoin in a lightning address	|	5382451.0	|	January 21, 2022	|
|	Block’s Cash App Is Finally Integrating the Lightning Network	|	5382086.0	|	January 19, 2022	|
|	Offline bitcoin vending machine using lightning	|	5381769.0	|	January 17, 2022	|
|	Do you think the Lightning Network will succeed?	|	5379599.0	|	January 02, 2022	|

2021

|	Thread Title	|	Link	|	Date of Creation	|
|	Lightning node vs. hub vs. wallet & key handling.	|	5378409.0	|	December 24, 2021	|
|	Send SMS all around the world with lightning!	|	5378274.0	|	December 23, 2021	|
|	Lightning network as a replacement for SWIFT	|	5378117.0	|	December 22, 2021	|
|	Send faxes anywhere in the world with lightning!	|	5377957.0	|	December 21, 2021	|
|	Amount to transact on lightning network	|	5376568.0	|	December 12, 2021	|
|	Applications running on top of lightning	|	5376105.0	|	December 09, 2021	|
|	Question about Linode Free Trail for Bitcoin Lightning Node	|	5373693.0	|	November 28, 2021	|
|	BlueWallet lightning invoice question	|	5372279.0	|	November 20, 2021	|

Excellent review. I loved reading it!

Too bad there is only one paper card for the seed and backup codes. The competition includes 2 or 3. The microSD backup doesn't back up the seed as well, does it?
The change of batteries to rechargeable ones with over 4 hours of stand-by life is a welcome edition.

I have some questions.
You mentioned that Batch 2 uses a screen with a closed-source driver chip. What's the worst case scenario there?
Doesn't Batch 2 have any type of seed verification after the initial onboarding process?

These rich and spoiled kids nowadays have no sense of belonging. It's one of the reasons why I am disgusted by today's football and why I am happy I grew up in better times when it was all about representing and being available for the club you love. Players will always move between clubs and it's a normal thing. But in the past, the priority was winning trophies and playing for your national team. Now it's all about getting the best possible contract, no matter if it's in England, Qatar, China, or Spain. Just show me the money and I am yours. Full-scale prostitution.   

Like I mentioned previously, the generation of the seed and private keys takes place on your device and your computer. The secure element is like a prison for sensitive information. A prison that private keys can't escape from. When a transaction requires signing, the correct private key is used and nothing is leaked from the device. 

People wrongly assume that Bitcoin is slow but traditional bank and credit card payments are fast. That's not really the case. When you pay a merchant with a credit/debit card, the person receives quick confirmation about the payment and the balance increases. But in the background, that transaction takes up to 2-3 days to finalize. Only after it's finalized does the merchant get access to their money.

Compare that with Bitcoin. If you send me a bitcoin payment, my wallet will immediately show the incoming and yet unconfirmed transaction. It's not yet final, and the industry standard is 6 confirmations for a bitcoin transaction to be considered final and irreversible. We know that a new block gets mined once every 10 minutes on average. Therefore, 6 block confirmations are required for transaction finality. So 1 block every 10 minutes means you need to wait 1 hour on average. Depending on how fast blocks are found and how fast your first confirmation arrives, this can take a few more hours. But if everything is OK, a merchant that's paid in bitcoin has access to their coins after the 1st blockchain confirmation (after 10 mins on average).

When you put traditional banks that need 2-3 days to finalize a transaction against bitcoin that requires 1, 2, or 3 hours, for example, it's easy to see which one is faster. The second element of the story is the irreversibility and possibility for chargebacks. A credit card transaction can be reversed for up to 180 days after it was made even if it's considered final. Bitcoin, on the other hand, is practically impossible to reverse after several confirmations. The costs would be tens of millions of dollars.         

When using the 1st-layer blockchain, you have to take into consideration the scalability limitations that come with it. It doesn't get faster than that. We are experiencing quite some congestion right now because mempools are showing 30.000 unconfirmed transactions waiting to get mined.

This is the biggest discount so far among the hardware wallet brands. Their web shop seems quite slow at the moment. Maybe it's getting more attention than usual because people are taking advantage of discounted prices.

It seems the prices will be further decreased. When you open the main page, you are welcomed with a huge banner that says there will be a 40% discount starting from tomorrow. It takes you to their Twitter feed and from there you need to join their Discord server to get more info.

You are still depending on something. In this particular example, you are not depending on a hardware wallet manufacturer like before, but you are depending on the developers of the Nokia phones and all their software and hardware components + the creator of this experimental new project. He himself suggests using it just for testing purposes and something to play around with, but to leave your hard-earned money on proper hardware devices that were created for those purpose.

I was checking Ledger's Twitter feed a few hours ago to see if they announced anything for Black Friday (nothing yet), and I came across a tweet where they said they have already recorded a 7x increase in sales in the days following the FTX drama. They are also claiming their support is overwhelmed with inquiries about hardware wallets and stuff like that. They seem to be suggesting that some of the server issues that dkbit98 was talking about in Ledger Server Problems could be a result of the unexpected increase of new users all coming in at the same time. If that's the case, maybe it's time to consider greater server capacity.   

If we got a promo price of around €170-€200 for the upcoming Black Friday event (I doubt we will), I would consider getting a Trezor Model T. With a good passphrase and a secret code stored on a SD card, we can mitigate the hardware vulnerability of the device and make it secure enough. Together with Ledger, Trezor is the oldest and most popular brand. I have more trust in them than in the newer manufacturers on the block. The Foundation Passport is appealing to me personally if it wasn't for its young age. 

Storing seeds and private keys digitally is not recommended. You should write it down on paper and store it in 3 separate geographical locations if possible. It's much easier to make backups of seeds than it is of private keys. Maybe it's worth considering using Electrum for your Bitcoin because with that app, you get a 12-word seed to back up. That's unless you are insisting on having a full-node client. If you have to use USB drives for sensitive data (again, not recommended), at least encrypt and/or password-protect the files.

Your wallets are not offline if your computers are connected to the internet and you use them to sync and download the latest blocks. Did I understand correctly that you are planning to use 4 different PCs for each of your wallet or are we talking about 4 SSDs on the same computer? And will those computers be used for any other activities besides holding your software wallets and syncing with the blockchain? Are they clean with freshly installed OSs or have you use them in the past for other stuff?

Seeds and private keys remain on the device all all times. Ledger uses secure element chips in their hardware wallets, and sensitive data doesn't leave those chips. The seed is only shown to you once during the setup process. Once that is done and you have made a backup of it, you can't see it ever again. You can't see the seed in the native Ledger Live app.

No. Wallets that generate BIP-39 compatible seeds (like Ledger in this case) can be recovered in other software or hardware wallets. If your device breaks, Ledger ceases to exist as a company, or your computer where the software/hardware is used malfunctions, you have your seed backups to rely on. The Ledger is just a hardware device that keeps your private keys in the secure element and signs transactions for you. 

Keyloggers don't swap addresses. They record and log your activities, like the things you write on your keyboard, they can take screenshots of what is on your screen, etc. This data gets stolen and sent to a malicious party. But like I mentioned above, your recovery phrase is never visible in a software environment, it never leaves the safety of the device, which means there is nothing for the keylogger to log. You also can't view or copy your private keys because they are also always on the secure element. So again, the keylogger has nothing to steal.

Clipboard malware is a different threat though. In theory, they can swap your legit address for one that belongs to a hacker. But that happens on a software level. When you make a transaction with a hardware wallet, all the information has to be checked and verified on the screen of that hardware device. Your malware can infect your computer, but I have never heard of a clipboard malware that can infect and modify the transaction details that are shown on the screen of your hardware wallet. Always confirm that the information is identical to what the Ledger shows. If you need to send a transaction to someone and you receive an address to pay to, a clipboard malware can replace that address when you copy it. When it's pasted into a software it can be a different address. It's your job to check that the pasted address (that will receive the coins) as well as the amounts and fees match with the one the other party gave you. If they don't, don't make the transaction. A hardware wallet can't protect you in this particular situation. If the other party makes a similar mistake and sends you the wrong BTC address, it's their fault. 

When we are talking about Ledger hardware wallets, you can't. The before-mentioned secure element chip is not open-source, which makes the firmware not open-source and the whole product closed-source.

Many other reputable and recommended software wallets are also free (for desktop or mobile), so that's not really an argument.

You don't need a hardware wallet or the SecureBTCWallet at all. Paper wallets exist for truly cold solutions, Airgapped systems can be set up for those that want it, Electrum can be used as either a hot or cold client, or a Live OS can be used over DVD or USB.   

There is no benefit in using exchanges in order to purchase goods or sending crypto to another person when you can do all of that from your own private wallet. And you don't need to worry that your coins could be frozen, you could be asked for KYC or source of funds, or be treated like a criminal because your bitcoin has been "tainted" due to its history with gambling platforms or services that particular exchange doesn't like. Some CEXs like Binance provide P2P trading, which is free. That's a plus, but considering how cheap it is to transact with bitcoin, it's not worth risking your coins and having Binance hold on to them. 

First you speak out against keeping coins on exchanges and then you suggest holding 1/4 of your bitcoin on centralized exchanges. It can't be both. Unless you are a day-trader who is aware of the risks of using CEXs, no one else should be storing their coins there and using an exchange as a wallet. They are not wallets. They are places you go to if you want to purchase or sell digital assets.

The problem is, one does not imply the other. A wallet and its code being reproducible doesn't make the code good, not vulnerable, or maliciously modified. While most people can check the reproducibility element or rely on sources like WalletScrutiny, there are very few of those among average users who have the skills to investigate the code and understand what does what. 

Exactly. But the research by the BitBox folks is also based on theoretical assumptions and hasn't been proven in practice.

True, there is. But if someone is using it and dumping secret data, the BitBox devs can point that out on the public blockchain where it can in their own theory be found.

That's not what you said previously. In your reply to NeuroticFish you said that you can't use your Ledger with Electrum if Ledger servers aren't working. That's false.

Wrong again. You can connect your Ledger hardware wallet to any computer via your USB cable. That computer does not need to have Ledger Live installed and hence there are no severs to connect to. If the device is working, it will ask you to enter your PIN in order to unlock it. This action does not require Ledger Live or a connection to Ledger servers.

I had some free time this afternoon and remembered this topic. I decided to take a look at AtomicDEX and what's new at Bisq. OP never came back to tell us if he used any of the recommended software and what he thought about them.

Anyways, if you are reading this, you should know that AtomicDEX doesn't support USDT over the Tron Network. It supports the Ethereum, Solana, and bunch of others I have never heard of, but not the TRC20 variant. Since one of the questions was about Tron wallets, I assume that's the only one he was interested in.

Bisq doesn't have the TRC20 version of USDT among its supported altcoins either. I was actually very surprised when I couldn't find it on the list. Just like AtomicDEX , they also support the ERC20 version. Some other altcoins like BUSD or DAI are also available, but not the one you asked about. And the altcoin markets look really bad with very little liquidity. That doesn't mean there aren't takers who are looking for a good trade, but at first sight there isn't much on offer. 

I didn't try out Robosats or AgoraDesk, but something tells me you won't get lucky there either. 

All hacks that have happened have required physical access to the device, a set of specialized hardware and tools, knowledge about what you are doing, outdated software, and luck. Joe Grand's hacking of the Trezor one fulfils all those criteria. I have never heard of a remote attack on a hardware wallet.