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3521  Economy / Speculation / Re: How Much Lower are We Going? Already at $2.25 !!! on: November 17, 2011, 12:46:11 PM
is this titanic sinking in fireworks? how did you produce this image?

Probably signaling flares.  The Titanic was so.... titanic, when it went down that it made the entire ocean list, by the looks of that image.

Yeah signal flares for the rescue ships that were underway.  And lol at ocean listing.  Didn't notice that til you pointed it out. 
3522  Economy / Speculation / Re: How Much Lower are We Going? Already at $2.25 !!! on: November 17, 2011, 07:37:42 AM
3523  Economy / Speculation / Re: The Red Baloons paper on: November 16, 2011, 05:19:27 PM
If you said Windows ME my eyes would just gloss over and I would pound +1 in rage, but Vista is awesome cause it paved the way for and ensured driver support for Windows 7. 
3524  Economy / Speculation / Re: How Much Lower are We Going? Already at $2.25 !!! on: November 16, 2011, 05:12:16 PM
Nagle is the manipulator!
3525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are so many people Anti-Bitcoin? on: November 16, 2011, 05:11:08 PM
And yes I have seen the End the Fed signs, but a few are hardly representative of the majority.  Besides, I would suspect quite a few of them don't even know what the fed is or what it does.

Fair enough, they might vary by city too. At least in LA, the signs are everywhere and the mural is in the center of camp. I should ask them about it and post the results to a new thread...

That would be interesting, you know the media only shows what they think their viewers want to hear.
3526  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are so many people Anti-Bitcoin? on: November 16, 2011, 04:28:51 PM
Yes of course the banks as well Rassah, and I agree with the rest of your post as well.  Most people don't know enough about finances/economics to care about why they would use Bitcoin.  It may be too far ahead of its time. 

And yes I have seen the End the Fed signs, but a few are hardly representative of the majority.  Besides, I would suspect quite a few of them don't even know what the fed is or what it does.
3527  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why are so many people Anti-Bitcoin? on: November 16, 2011, 01:56:41 PM
The good news is that protests like #ows is slowly helping people realize the root of our economic problems - inflationary fiat currencies under monopoly of central banking system world wide.


I haven't seen or met anyone who thinks OWS is about the currency itself.  It's about greed, high unemployment, corporate influence, manipulation, lobbying, lots of things, but not the currency itself.   
3528  Economy / Speculation / Re: How Much Lower are We Going? Already at $2.25 !!! on: November 16, 2011, 12:41:39 PM
Talking about how much support is at 1.00 and how it can never stay that low is foolish, because it's not like it will only get near it once then bounce straight back up never to come down again.  Sure the first time it gets near a dollar there will be lots of buys, but what about the second time, third time?  Same thing is happening now.  Last time the price was this low there was quite a bit of support with a decent rally back up to 3.70ish.  The price falls again, and the people who would have bought in have bought in already, and there is very little support left. 
3529  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the price slowly climbing? on: November 16, 2011, 07:30:36 AM
It will be a long, long time before the price goes up significantly.  There are a lot of miners holding waiting for a rise in the price to sell, which will kill any rally that happens.  Not to mention people who have been buying all the way down. 
3530  Economy / Speculation / Re: "Aaaaaaand the waaaallllls... on: November 16, 2011, 07:11:30 AM
He's gone from bitcoin fanatic to realist, a change quite a few more people could stand to make.  He's also been 100% correct. 

He has, but his attitude does, as they say on the interwebs, "smack of butthurt".

That sort of attitude doesn't help anyone, probably not even the drowning ego it emanates from.

Neither do the permabulls, who are constantly saying it can never drop any further, which is much more harmful if you are taking into account that people may listen and buy in, and lose their investment. 
3531  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [Withdraw MtGox] We should tie up MtGox's hands after MultiSig is implemented. on: November 15, 2011, 05:06:06 PM
Just because they can doesn't mean they did, no need to presume guilt with nothing to back it up.  As I said in the other thread, a third party audit would be more effective, you won't get a big enough response here to do anything, especially with your less than tactful accusations. 
3532  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wanna price go up? Withdraw from MtGox. They are selling your coins. on: November 15, 2011, 04:30:24 PM
Just because they can do it doesn't mean they are.  Doesn't mean they aren't either.  A third part audit would be a better way of seeing if unethical things are happening.  Those aren't cheap though.
3533  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Technical Analysis on: November 15, 2011, 02:11:02 PM
Shorting bitcoin has been a good way to go for the past 5 months.  5 months from now I'm confident we'll be even lower (< $1), so even shorting now will probably turn out profitable.

Hope some of you were lucky enough to have shorted when everyone else was warning of a reversal and BIG squeeze.  If you did, congrats on your winnings.

Yeah woke up to a nice surprise this morning, was expecting a drop but not that big and fast.  Now to decide on the future.  I expect there may be a mini rally, but it certainly won't go back to 3. 
3534  Economy / Speculation / Re: 50K bidwall at 2.30 - Crash over? on: November 15, 2011, 02:07:23 PM
No point really, I just dislike seeing blanket statements calling people stupid and idiots for being the victim of a crime, but some people are just like that I suppose. 
3535  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: OKPAY accepting bitcoin as a deposit method on: November 15, 2011, 01:56:19 PM
Interesting to see all the negative reactions in those threads, by people who are already dealing in purely digital goods. 
3536  Economy / Speculation / Re: 50K bidwall at 2.30 - Crash over? on: November 15, 2011, 01:20:48 PM
as a customer I want to be able to charge back a dodgy business.

As a customer, why would you take risks on dodgy businesses in the first place?

You should trust those who you intend to transact with, if not - then find a trustworthy alternative. If you decide on a whim to take the risk anyway, why should I have to pay for your mistake when you get suckered out of your money?

By having to pay I am referring to the fact that I am forced to also concede to chargebacks as a business, or as a consumer am required to pay higher prices to cover the CC fees passed on to me by businesses to pay for the cost of the chargeback process.

Do your own due diligence. Expecting others to do it for you is naive.
When you throw caution to the wind, you cannot also expect to have a safety net if things don't go your way.

It's completely childish.
"MOMMY!!! The dodgy man lied to me. He told me these beans were magic!!! WAAAA"


Ah, the old "Its YOUR fault for getting scammed, suck it up!"
3537  Economy / Speculation / Re: Did buying bitcoins jus become harder? on: November 15, 2011, 01:16:35 PM
Why are you talking like its over?  Same thing happened at 6, 5, 4, now 3, next 2, then 1. 
3538  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it possible for us to get the price back up on: November 15, 2011, 01:15:01 PM
Are you still holding?  Cause I see further drops on the horizon.  Absolutely nothing has changed thus far, so downtrend should continue with minor hiccups along the way. 
3539  Economy / Speculation / Re: "Aaaaaaand the waaaallllls... on: November 15, 2011, 01:12:30 PM
He's gone from bitcoin fanatic to realist, a change quite a few more people could stand to make.  He's also been 100% correct. 
3540  Economy / Speculation / Re: Warning: How many of you Bears have ever been a victim of a Short Squeeze? on: November 15, 2011, 01:09:55 PM
its ok.  double bottoms are not uncommon.  the blockchain marches on.

RISK ON!  LOL

Any day now the money is going to come pouring in, you'll see, you'll see...

Yes all those investors just sitting around waiting for the right moment to dump millions into bitcoins.  Reminds me of that hilarious post cypher made earlier in this thread. 

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i can easily see professional investors looking over the table:

Q:  whats this over here, Bitcoin?  i thought it was done?

A:  no, still hanging around.

Q:  didn't it get hacked?

A:  the exchange did but the source code didn't.

Q:  is Gavin still around?

A:  yes.

Q:  how about those other guys, Stefan Thomas, Amir Taaki, and Jeff Garzik?

A:  they're still there too.

Q:  God, i thought they would've given up by now if Bitcoin really was a ponzi.

A:  nope.

Q:  any improvements in security?

A:  tons.  consumers are now protected by encryption and mtgox hasn't suffered another attack.

Q:  really?  how much is it now?

A:  $2

Q:  you're kidding.  didn't you say it acts like gold?  a limited supply?

A:  yes

Q:  well, our gold/silver plays aren't doing so well.

A:  lets pour a few million into Bitcoin.  its oversold and maybe we can get a short squeeze going.

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