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3521  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: What’s your hidden reason for becoming a trader? on: December 16, 2016, 04:44:46 AM
I think hidden reason is not a right sentences for trading, and I don't have hidden reason for becoming trader, all my reason is for money, and i think many trader or all trader have a same reason with me, trading to earn money, and spend the money for daily life
We could still consider it as hidden reason since we do have our own aims and decisions but mostly people would really have the same motive on which is making money and we do know that doing trading could able to provide that. I do have also the goals of becoming a good trader but its not really easy as it sounds and it would takes time to learn it and make profitable with it.
3522  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: December 16, 2016, 04:23:01 AM
There are a lot of ways of making steady income apart from signature campaign and sticking around with service section. If you have a good internet, you can make steady income just by download some stuff.
Earning money just by downloading stuff onto your computer yeah that sounds safe  Roll Eyes

You want a steady income then get a steady job and work hard, signature campaigns and referral links are not going to pay the bills, well i guess that depends on where you live actually.
It does really depend on which country do you live in since i do heard some people who engage to bitcoin which they are making a living on just earning bitcoin on this forum on participating campaign,bounty and other stuff that they could able to generate bitcoin. If you are living on a 1st world country then it wouldnt be enough for sure but on developing country i think its possible but we shouldnt realy too much on it.
3523  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is it illegal for someone to hack my BTC wallet? on: December 16, 2016, 03:44:47 AM
In the eyes of people, yes it is. But from the eyes of law, i think that is a different story. Some countries doesnt make a particular rule or law about hacking bitcoin. But it can be considered a cyber crime. Hacking in any other forms is a serious crime. They can be arrested and jailed to prison if its proven. That can be a violation that can be charge to a hacker. I just dont know if bitcoin is in the coverage of that law.

Every country has its own cyber crime law, they differ from each other, but some country adopt other countries law, so some might be the same, but most of them only has a small claw and limited to what was written only on the said law, now, if cyber crime law in a certain country was made before the dawn of the bitcoin, then bitcoin wasn't in it, except if something in bitcoin that is mention in it, and only lawyers are the best at linking things just by words. I also think that if there is a revision of said laws, and it includes bitcoin, then there is a chance.

Big question there is, where country will you file your case?

Again, if there is no law prohibiting the hack of bitcoin wallet, then all you can do is cry!!!  Cheesy
You do really get the exact point and even we would say that stealing or hacking other bitcoin wallet is very illegal since its considered as stealing but we all know that bitcoin is legalized or something that being hold by the government that they could able to make investigations but we all know theres none. So the best way to do is cry and let go off those coins and you cant do anything about it.
3524  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoin 20 Years From Now on: December 16, 2016, 03:26:39 AM
We are now experiencing the efficient, fast and amazing convergence of technologies which one way or the other greatly contributing to the rise of the cryptocurrencies and making Bitcoin as the King of the Hill so far.

Looking into the future...what do you think will be the scenario involving Bitcoin twenty years from now? Will Bitcoin be worth more than a million or will it ceased to exist? Or will a new crytocurrency replace the supremacy of Bitcoin...?
In my opinion 20 years are much sufficient time to grow in the online market . As the new users daily involving in the Bitcoin so here no doubt that it will go down and with the time Bitcoin will rich at that highest peak at which no on new cryptocurrency will be able to replace it .
That 20 years would be fruitful for all of us if we continue to support bitcoin and patronize the usage of bitcoin, with bitcoin is growing we can certainly grow with it if we focus our time and effort here.
Its not necessarily for us to put focus or efforts since we could easily buy bitcoin and hold them for long time and for sure it will really give us nice profits on near future. 20 years is already long enough and we wont still know on what would happen to bitcoin on those years but one things for sure if people would really continue to use bitcoin it will surely stood still and developed even more.
3525  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If no one spends bitcoin what might happen? on: December 15, 2016, 12:44:24 PM
Well, the price is going to remain stable, wont increase wont decrease. Thats for sure. However, something major, like the bitcoin collapse might also happen, and gold/silver or just simple fiat might replace bitcoin. The industries that depend almost/fully on bitcoin will undergo a huge loss and shut down (most likely).
are you sure? what would happened if then most bitcoin holder sell their bitcoin due there is no price movement? would it be still remain the same? no, i don't think so. bitcoin would never have a stable price no matter what , as it's designed to be like that. if then there is a lacks of spending, i believe the end of bitcoin are really near.
If no one spends their bitcoin it wont really be consider as dead since people are still keeping it since it has a value. If no one spends then theres only a minimal movement on bitcoins price and we wont see any major increase or decrease.
3526  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is their any safe methods to gamble? on: December 15, 2016, 09:15:04 AM
Is their any safe methods to gamble? Means without losing much of our money can gamble?

Any tips or suggestions?

Nope, you can't gamlbe safely unless you are making very small bets, the bets you'll be okay with losing. All the strategies people can give you will not be working forever. They will let you down eventually and as a rule you will lose all you have relying on a gambling strategy blindly.

Its a fact that no strategy will last forever, even you will find a safe method as you gamble. Eventually you are going to lose again in the end, because gambling is created for the gamblers to win some amount in the first place and in the end the house edge will recover all the profit that we made. Don't just hope to gamble safely, just gamble what you afford to lose.
Losing what you can afford to lose is the most safety way in gambling, it's gambling and the reality is that we lose most of the time and we are only limiting if we gamble what we can afford to lose. Everyone should think of safe method in gambling as that is the only way we can enjoy it and last longer.
Safe method means 100% winning percentage but we could able to lessen the risk of lossing ,just like what you have said we should really gamble on the amount that we could afford to lose and dont risk too much money especially when it is already budgeted for your needs. We should not compromise that money and think off on yourself and if you have family. Safe methods doesnt exist but prevention is possible.
3527  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you like slot games ? on: December 15, 2016, 09:00:35 AM
This is the kind of gambling game which i really hates a lot because chances of winning is very slim compared to dice and other games. I do easily lose up my money fast when i play slot games.Lets say i bet of play for 10 bets out of it i do only win for 1 - 2x only which is really frustrating and such a waste of money and it does really need luck in able to win and i think most people would say the same thing too.

Seems we have the same reason for hating, because I cannot find my luck with slot games that's I totally forget slot games and manage to gamble with dice game and sports betting. And I won't gamble with slot games anymore because it is truly a curse for me, I guess or I'm not that just too lucky by playing this game.
I really hate this game on which no matter how good the promotion is on a certain gambling site the chances are still the same on which lossing percentage is high and i dont see anything slot games do win always. I dont know why gambling sites do still promote or make this game on which i assume only a few would play for this.
you will never ever want to say this if you have won a very nice amount in slots game.
i did heard about someone few years ago when hanging out in the bar and try to play slots just for having a good time only.
and guess what? he won $750 for a bet of 75c x 4 only, just don't be addicted in this game.

this is true about any type of gambling as long as they are not rigged. when you play a fair game as long as there is even a 0.00001% chance of winning you can win a big amount some day.
but that doesn't change the fact that slot games are boring as hell. there is not much activity to it and you have to wait for each bet of this boring game to see the result. i have tried a couple of them online too and they were all boring, even more boring than the real life game. at least in real life there is the benefit of being actually at a casino.
We could really say that there are chances to win on slot games and you are right as long the site is not rigged you could really able to win but on slim chances only. As you said playing slot games are too boring and i dont really like to play that kind of game. I dont have soo much luck on playing it too.
3528  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Highest profit on Bitcoin Gambling? on: December 15, 2016, 07:23:11 AM
What is the amount of highest win/profit in the history of Bitcoin Gambling? Do you guys have any idea?
One of the biggest win I know is from nakowa's win on just-dice when they are still a bitcoin dice site. Here is a thread where he bragged about his overall profit from just-dice. The second biggest win I know is from hufflepuff where he got a 2k btc profit from primedice by exploiting their system.

Nice winnings, on that time btc was costing 47$, the guy gambled 222 btc in one roll, that is a lot! And he won!
And the another guy, how did he exploited primedice system?
I do aware on hufflepuff issue on which he exploited the primedice system and gained thousands of bitcoin but for me its not a legal way to say its a win but i do consider it as a stealing. The highest amount that i saw was that guy playing dice on bitdice almost won about 500+ btc  back in year 2015.
3529  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: What would you do with your winnings? on: December 15, 2016, 07:06:25 AM
I got a traits to withdraw or secure the bankroll whenever I am winning in a game.  Then continue playing with the profit as my new bankroll.  Rinse and repeat.  And whenever i got enough win.  I save it and give it to my family to help for the family needs just leaving the initial fund of my bankroll.  It needs a lot of discipline but I am able to successfuly follow this kind of method.

That's what I also do. When I have earned my profit, I would withdraw back what I invested and start making from what I earned. But when I go bankrupt, I have the urge to deposit what I already withdrew and resulted in losses again. What can you suggest to prevent that?
This usually happen on most gamblers on which they would tend to deposit their capital again once they already withdrew it before. Securing your capital is the best way and playing with your profits is very ideal but for me if i saw that i gain already profits then i would completely stop on that day since possibilities of getting back your winnings is there. Securing it will be a good move.
3530  Economy / Marketplace / Re: How to make 1 bitcoin in a month or 2? on: December 15, 2016, 06:50:39 AM
Very hard earn 1 btc in 2016
Of course it is, especially if you're just doing nothing then it will too hard, but if you started already even just claiming faucets, even just a small amount you'll earn. Then do quality post here and join any signature campaign that suits to your rank then it will be easy to earn. Just visit the service section there are tasks that you can earn also even just pennys.

Even in real life, earning with this value of fiat is not an easy thing to do. You need to put full efforts and time for it and that's going to be your reward.

So if you are saying that earning 1 bitcoin for 2016 is hard, then encourage yourself that the difficulty will be lessen for next year.

Only if, you are going to work harder for it.
Its either on online or offline world earning 1 btc a month would be really hard unless if you have an investment which would generate you income on that but if we are relying fully on hard work then we will really need to exert efforts in able to obtain this amount. Theres no difference at all and we should not really think that earning bitcoin is easy compared on physical work.
3531  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: you need to overcome your fear of losing money on: December 15, 2016, 06:29:11 AM
Losing is part of successfully trading. If you treat losing as part of trading then you are an experienced trader.
Agree, this kind of thing is quiet simple to tell to someone or into yourself but when you are already on the middle of a trade it is very difficult since our aims are usually on making profits and we think always that we should not lose money and we dont like to lose a particular trade. When that happens,emotions will come out and decisions might be change and you wont already follow your trading style thats why lossing money is just a normal thing.
3532  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Happy mining on: December 15, 2016, 06:09:48 AM
Why every people say that?
  It is so difficult activity  Undecided
it is difficult for people who have no enough capital to start... and some newbies say it is dificult who never tried and don't even know what mining is.
if you have enough money to purchase everything(including the electricity cast) you can do it with no issue.

because every mining is uselss and full of loss and full of risk . there is always a chance to ran away the mining site any time without notice . hashocean mining is a best example of you topic that you have started .
don't call mining useless. there is big deference between mining and cloudmining. cloudmining have no any relation with bitcoin mining. they run on hype bases.

I don't know why people comparing real mining to cloudmining, and i only think the only comparison for both is they have mining in their name, and the truth their is cloudmining is just made by those scammers who wants to make their site looks more adorable for newbie people so they will invest on it, and maybe other's name it useless since blocks for bitcoin are more harder to get for each years passes maybe they are just focusing on bitcoin and not for the other altcoin.
The thing you said is very true on which cloudmining out there are mostly scams and its not really ideal to compare it with hardware mining on yourself. Infact there are still soo called cloudminings that really operates but still its not an assurance that they will last forever because as you said mining difficulty would surely rise each year and the days goes by.
3533  Economy / Speculation / Re: 1000+ is anytime now on: December 15, 2016, 05:51:52 AM
I agree that 1000/btc is right around the corner. Also agree that when the 800 mark is reached it may open up and swing through 900 in no time.

A lot of news coming out recently is pro bitcoin and I speculate that a Trump presidency will also be good for BTC.

even if the $800 is broken, we are not riding a water-slide so $900 is still a very long way away. nothing is going to change compared to before bitcoin price is rising slowly as it was before and each time there is a rise there are so many who cash out to buy back in the correction and then continue waiting which makes rising harder.
Even on $800 price we can still be assure if it will broke on that particular price point. $30 move is also a long way since there are lots of traders and investors are just holding and waiting for the exact price to sell off their bitcoin thats why even we broke $800 sliding to 900 will be very difficult because most bitcoin users will be doing trades.
3534  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Do Bitcoins have Tax?? on: December 15, 2016, 05:35:55 AM
i think no , because bitcoin not real physical , bitcoin just digital currency
Not only just a digital currency the true thing why bitcoin cant be tax because it is decentralized and no government could able to impose taxes with it and thats why most bitcoin users do like to put their money into bitcoin just to avoid tax. Maybe government could possible impose taxes on those business who are involve into bitcoin.
3535  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why I use Bitcoin ??? on: December 14, 2016, 02:11:49 PM
I use bitcoin cause I find it so easy to use and because of the idea of investing through some site by bitcoin without any hustle.
And also the idea of anonymity so anyone can use it and lets not forget that we are using it to earn Smiley
Right, the anonymity of btc is an advantage for us users who dont want to expose personal infos in public and thats one of the reason why i like it, very convenient to use and easy to send. using and investing in it can also make you earn money and thats the amazing part.
Correct and i agree with you anonymity features of bitcoin is the one i like because you could able to transfer money without exposing your identity to someone and also you have the control on your own money and even government could able to impose tax with it.
3536  Other / Off-topic / Re: IF BTC Wallets had a Trash button on: December 14, 2016, 01:56:05 PM
No wallet would ever intend to create a trash button since its too dangerous for having one and also whos gonna delete a bitcoin since its a money and has a value? Whos the one who gonna hate money and loves to delete anyway? This is just a nonsense imagination of creating a trash button.

Yeah it will never happen and it may only take place if indeed bitcoin has value that can still be made was labelled an money. For if bitcoin is not worth the money then everything will turn slowly or quickly, because most people will not care or using something that does not benefit them. Yeah it's true, that everyone will love the money. But if bitcoin has no value then everything will turn around and all will get rid of bitcoin to trash
Trash button would be created only if bitcoin would gone its value but as we see on the current state of bitcoin now its value do really increase and theres no way that someone would able or like to delete its own money. Its not really ideal to implement such thing on having a trash button coz its like you are destroying or throwing money. Earning bitcoin is not easy at all.
3537  Economy / Economics / Re: Spending Bitcoins on: December 14, 2016, 01:44:47 PM
For me it's crucial to find some balance between spending and saving, that way you will profit the most. If you are skilled you can trade and invest and grow your Bitcoins. The earnings you can invest further or save for the future and wait for the price to rise even more. It's also good to spend some coins thus they are circulating within the Bitcoin community. Holiday season is coming I believe we will all spend a part of our coins.  Smiley

Maybe it is better to save 90% and spend 10% on a monthly basis. After you spend, you buy back later.
That's a conservative saving percentage, I think that would be easy with discipline savings process.
I cant do this kind of saving percentage regarding into my bitcoin since im quiet a spender since its already holiday season and i really need to spend some of my bitcoin but still i wont encash or spend all of it just only a partition since i do only buy important needs.
3538  Economy / Speculation / Re: is it time to start seriously talking about a $5000 BTC on: December 14, 2016, 01:27:54 PM
it is everybody's dream. but I think it will not happen in the near future. maybe 5 coming years it could happen. for now I think it is an impossibility. but everyone is entitled to argue.  Grin
Anyone would really argue since we really have different perspectives in bitcoins price in the future. 5 years more on bitcoin could possibly reach that amount but still its not guaranteed because it will really need huge adoption to bitcoin in order to reach that price.
3539  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: do you can control your self when playing gambling? on: December 14, 2016, 01:04:55 PM
I can control myself in gambling because I just do it for fun and nothing more, I know I will never be rich with gambling and I don't rely my future here. I treated it as part of my entertainment since when I was young I already gamble and I get entertained every time I do it.

Control comes with experience in my opinion, now after so many years in gambling I feel I have better control. I heard for word "tilt", when player get in moments when he play out of control. I think every gambler get in situation from time to time, maybe professionals are above that, but they can get nervous as well. Point is that everyone can lose control in gambling, its just matter how often that happen.


Yup the control comes with experience, I think the newbies will face this type of issues in gambling, the newbies will become greedy because of easy money. So they will lose control on their play. Even I was also like that, when I entered gambling I was too greedy but when I realised that I am losing money I started to control on my play. Now I can have control on my emotions in gambling.
Experience does really matter since you will know on how to control already your emotions and you are right most newbies will definitely experience this at the first time because they arent aware on the things that would happen on doing gambling and also greediness will surely come out always and its really hard to control if you dont have enough experience.
3540  Other / Off-topic / Re: IF BTC Wallets had a Trash button on: December 14, 2016, 12:52:27 PM
No wallet would ever intend to create a trash button since its too dangerous for having one and also whos gonna delete a bitcoin since its a money and has a value? Whos the one who gonna hate money and loves to delete anyway? This is just a nonsense imagination of creating a trash button.
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