Your lack of punctuation following your "Thank you" raises question in my mind as to its sincerity. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) What is sincerity for you? :-| That's personal. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Why do you need to know the reason why I might need to know the reason? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Because nobody agrees with my in this forum that atheist are not able to love. Thank You. My daughter would laff her head off i am not able to love .. right what about the muslim who let his daughter drown because of his religion in dubai seen a muslim father stoning his own daughter because she slept with another man.. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) this was all done in this past month..the 21st century and this happens..it makes my blood boil and because i am an atheist i cannot love ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) fuck you religious fuckers don.t know the meaning of love you love a book more than your own family soft stupid people Showing love and thinking that the feelings that you have are feelings of love, doesn't mean you have love. It just means that you have some feelings that you interpret as love, and that when other people see you, they think that it is love that you are expressing and displaying. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Are you able to keep your informations concise? Are you high? ================================================================================================================== The important thing that comes from the Bible is the message of Jesus Christ, the Messiah. All who believe in the salvation of Jesus, through His death on the cross and His resurrection to eternal life, will receive eternal life from Him. Those people will be raised from death at the last day to live forever.
The rest of the info in the Bible is all there to back up this most important thing... the salvation that is there for as many as will receive it.
You are talking like a Christian. Dont' close your mind and you'll be able to understand all. :-| Can I ask you a question: why are you interested in atheism? Thank You and best regards. atheism is someone who does not worship gods..well i don.t..plus so much war and hate caused by religion plus arguing about something that is not there its bonkers ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) its the 21st century get real nutters ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Just because most of the war-making peoples of the 1900s were religious people denying religion, doesn't mean that they had no religion. Their religions might have all been religions of war. Everyone has religion. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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An atheist is someone who is a liar. Why? Because he sets himself up as God over God, by expressing that God doesn't exist in the face of proof that God DOES exist. If he merely said he wasn't sure, then he might not be setting himself up as God by making such a blatantly foolish determination, that God doesn't exist.
Atheist is someone that does not believe in God. Atheist is someone that is not able to Love as Love is a sentiment based on Faith. :-| Thank You Your lack of punctuation following your "Thank you" raises question in my mind as to its sincerity. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Video: Why Jewish People Do Not Believe In JesusComment: "The Talmud was written by Rome centuries after the New Testament , so every Jew that is worshiping the Talmud is deceived." Yes, everyone on earth will rise again. The ones that Jesus finds favor with will live forever, and the rest will not. They will be ashes under our feet. SO WHATS THE POINT IN KILLING US ALL THEN BRINGING US ALL BACK TO LIFE ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) BE MUCH EASIER TO JUST LET US ALL LIVE FOREVER God told Adam and Eve that the day they would eat the forbidden fruit, they would surely die. And they did die that day, in spiritual perfection. We, their descendants, receive the same because we are corrupted as they became, both in body and in spirit. The point is, they committed suicide. God didn't kill them. But God is offering us all the way out of death, into eternal life in joy. Too bad for you that you don't want it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Video: Why Jewish People Do Not Believe In JesusComment: "The Talmud was written by Rome centuries after the New Testament , so every Jew that is worshiping the Talmud is deceived." Yes, everyone on earth will rise again. The ones that Jesus finds favor with will live forever, and the rest will not. They will be ashes under our feet. The current Talmud is a compilation of writings that had its start in Babylon at the time of the Israel captivity there somewhat prior to 500 BC. Papal Bulls are the counterpart in Catholicism to the Talmud of the Jews. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Uncertainty? I am VERY certain I asked that question. Even if the moderators delete it, I still am very certain that I have asked it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Than why you need to know the reason because somebody wants to hide the truth? Why do you need to know the reason why I might need to know the reason? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif)
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Well, that's about all YOU can say, since you recognize that you lost the argument either way. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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Are you able to keep your informations concise? Are you high? ================================================================================================================== The important thing that comes from the Bible is the message of Jesus Christ, the Messiah. All who believe in the salvation of Jesus, through His death on the cross and His resurrection to eternal life, will receive eternal life from Him. Those people will be raised from death at the last day to live forever.
The rest of the info in the Bible is all there to back up this most important thing... the salvation that is there for as many as will receive it.
You are talking like a Christian. Dont' close your mind and you'll be able to understand all. :-| Can I ask you a question: why are you interested in atheism? Thank You and best regards. atheism is someone who does not worship gods..well i don.t..plus so much war and hate caused by religion plus arguing about something that is not there its bonkers ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) its the 21st century get real nutters ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) An atheist is someone who is a liar. Why? Because he sets himself up as God over God, by expressing that God doesn't exist in the face of proof that God DOES exist. If he merely said he wasn't sure, then he might not be setting himself up as God by making such a blatantly foolish determination, that God doesn't exist. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Why are you trying to hide the truth?
I wouldn't ask that question in this thread as you are showing uncertainty and giving only more power to atheist people. PS: this is the main account of Cash BTC. Uncertainty? I am VERY certain I asked that question. Even if the moderators delete it, I still am very certain that I have asked it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Think about this. There is only one reason that we believe in life. What is that reason? Because we are experiencing it and see it. Life is a miracle. We have no evidence that it could exist... except that it does. So, why does rising from the dead bother you? It happened once, in abundance, all around us. Why are you closing your mind to the idea that it can happen again? You are pushing yourself towards stupidity the more you talk. What you say only the believers will be brought back to life..i thought he forgives everybody ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Just because I said one thing doesn't necessarily exempt me from saying other things. The Bible never tells a person to do two opposite things under the same set of circumstances. Keep it up. You will ultimately deny yourself right out of existence. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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There's no other definition for atheism other than "disbelief in God". I understand however, and we often come to a clash with what I call "American Atheism", AA's seams to imply some oddities to Atheism, such as same sex marriage, abortion, gay rights and a whole load of dogmatic crap that is alien to Atheism, basically they want to input a sort of leftist view or "caviar-leftism" to Atheism.
Doctrines are bad by definition, because ANY course of action can be either good or bad based upon its context. Doctrine and dogmatic views always follow irrational responses by ignoring this factor. In other words what's good for me may not be good for you and vice-versa, and what may be good today may be bad tomorrow.
And please! Stop with "falsehoods" and "Messiahs"! That sounds so irrational! Specially taken that you're talking of a religion made by Romans some 100 years after the supposed Jesus existed, if he ever did.
Often people say something like, "I don't (or can't) believe it." Other time they say, "I believe it." Since atheism has been proven false - because it has been scientifically proven that God exists - how can we keep from talking about falsehoods when the topic is about an activity of atheism? In addition, isn't the person who brings the clarity about the falsehood of atheism to the atheists to show them the truth... isn't that person a messiah of sorts, one that is trying to bring the truth to light? Sounds to me that taking the focus off faith in Christianity (which might be true), and placing it on atheism (which has been proven false in more ways than one), is an attempt to cover up the truth. And if someone wants to cover up the truth, what is the use of a thread that is looking for the truth in truthful answers, like this one? Why are you trying to hide the truth? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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You've "factual evidence" of nothing and atheism has no doctrines.
Come now. Just because I haven't sat down and explained clearly why the 3 laws prove God exists, doesn't mean that they don't prove such. I have explained in other posts clearly enough that one can explain it to himself if he wants. I would rather you use your ability to think than lay it out completely for you. ---------- The first great doctrine of atheism is that God (supreme being) does not exist. The second is that atheism is not a religion. Following that are many of the scientific theories that are held by atheists as laws of nature. Because these are held as truths, they are doctrines to the holder. For example. There is a sect of atheism that holds that the Big Bang is law, when in reality it is theory (not fact), and probably could never be proven at all even if it HAD HAPPENED. The reason atheists need something like the Big Bang is (even though they are mostly ignorant of it because they hide it from themselves), atheists, like everyone else, don't know for a fact anything about their future. Because of this, they build up all kinds of limited and temporary fantasies in their mind about what they think will happen. Their fantasies are their doctrines, just as formally religious people have doctrines, while all the while each individual's doctrine is slightly (or greatly) different from the individual doctrine of anyone else. It all has to do with the weakness that we all have when trying to predict the future. We think that we would have security if we had control. The atheists try to gain control by making themselves the authority (supreme being) and then try to go about eliminating the supreme being (themselves) in their minds by upholding atheism. Atheism is the most pathetic religion around. It doesn't even deserve to be a religion. But, by its attributes, definitely is one. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE BIBLE ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) YOU MAKE YOUR OWN LAW TO THE BIBLE...DUMB ASS..so if there is a hell your going there ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) for not doing gods teachings ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) because you know nothing about the bible ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) very good stories but that is all they are nothing else A BOOK ..and no wisdom comes from the bible just common sense thou should not kill...NO SHIT ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) The important thing that comes from the Bible is the message of Jesus Christ, the Messiah. All who believe in the salvation of Jesus, through His death on the cross and His resurrection to eternal life, will receive eternal life from Him. Those people will be raised from death at the last day to live forever. The rest of the info in the Bible is all there to back up this most important thing... the salvation that is there for as many as will receive it. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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You're mistaken Atheism by some sort of "belief in science". Not at all. I am simply using science as an example. Whatever anyone does in life, he does because he believes that it is the correct way to live. It is his religion, be it science or anything else. And there's no such thing as "Big Bang law", it's a theory. Exactly what I was hoping you would understand that I was saying. Atheism is the lack of belief in deities, just that, nothing else, doesn't imply a shred of belief on anything, scientific or otherwise, and has absolutely no doctrine. However, that is not what the dictionary definition is. You could look at it from an animal's point of view. A more intelligent animal holds the general understanding that mankind is greater than it is. Mankind is a deity in the eyes of animals, even though they don't express it that way. Atheists try to become less than the animals by attempting to say that there is no supreme being. Since animals can't think like that, it becomes self-evident that mankind (if not Something even greater) is the supreme being. Doctrines are irrational actions based upon political views or religion, regardless if the conditions when those actions can be considered good or not. Exactly the thing that I am saying regarding atheism and atheists. However, many scientists hold to certain scientific fact in such a way that everything they do is based on such fact. It is part of their doctrine to do things like this. Some fact is doctrine to those who use it regularly. For an instance, the Communist doctrine aims a lot at a sort of factory worker that doesn't exist anymore, yet because they take Marx and Lenin as doctrine they don't change. Likewise, in the Middle Eastern religions there's a doctrine against eating pork, this makes perfect sense as hogs takes too much a water, a scarce good at the region. The same idea at mid-Europe would be senseless. The fact that some doctrine is based on falsehood (like atheism), doesn't mean that all doctrine is based on falsehood. Atheists are more akin to think rationally and try to analyze the decision/consequences factor to determine the course of action.
If atheists could think rationally, they would look up the definition of "atheism," apply it to themselves, and see that atheism is a complete lie. As it is, they would rather believe the lie, making atheism a religion just like many of the other religions around the world that hang onto falsehood. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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As what I have learned Atheist doesn't hate religion. They just don't like the idea of having a so-called-religion where they are force to worship someone they don't believe.
I was born as a Catholic and before I actually thought the same way atheist believe.
Nobody can force you to worship one way or another. The closest they can come is to brainwash you. But if they don't continually reinforce their brainwashing, you will revert to your own religious beliefs over time. When someone attempts to force you to worship such a way, he isn't really. You might go through the acts of specified worship, but you aren't really worshiping unless you are. It's like a hostage situation. The people who take you hostage may give you a choice. They may tell you to remain as a hostage or die. What you do is up to you. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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.... .... What to do when your employer sends YOUR W-2 to the IRS? Send a letter to your employer asking him to change your income or gross income on an amended W-2 to $0.00, and send that to the IRS in place of the original. When he doesn't, use the Form 4852 to do it yourself (set your income or gross income reported to $0.00), then file your 1040 with $0.00 income earned, and get all your withheld money, including FICA (Social Security tax), back from the IRS. Look at all the folks who got their money back using this method - http://www.losthorizons.com/BulletinBoard.htm. Your employer's original W-2 that he sends in is hearsay. Rebut the hearsay with your own hearsay, and get all your money back. This is exactly the thing that government attacks everyone for, hearsay. There is virtually nothing else that government or law enforcement attacks anyone for, especially when there is no harm or damage of property done. It is all hearsay. And when you don't rebut it properly in court, you lose. Learn about Karl Lentz now, before government comes after you for the hearsay of breathing incorrectly - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOkAHRzuiOA&list=PLHrkQxgz0mg6kUBciD-HIvTXByqjcIZ-DMaybe we will start to get to an utopia, when enough people start to wake up. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Sounds like plain old lying to me. Thanks but I'll pass, and keep on paying what's due when it's due. Thanks, Spendy. For a long time I wondered if the Pete Hendrickson thing was true. Then when I found out it was, I still didn't understand the way things worked. Now that I am learning about Karl Lentz, Bill Thornton and Richard Cornforth, I know how the Pete Hendrickson info works. But the thing that makes it an over-the-top surety is the fact that YOU are denying it. If I had any doubts left, they are gone now. Thanks, again for the confirmation. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Bah. A wise man once said "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's." That's the exact point. Your income tax money becomes Caesar's when you agree that it is his. Up until that time, it is not his. If you don't call it his, it never is his. That's why in an IRS audit, they never tell you how much you owe until you tell them first, be it by your acceptance of a W-2, or be it by your filing a 1040 or some other form, or be it by your confession in court. Wake up. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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You've "factual evidence" of nothing and atheism has no doctrines.
Come now. Just because I haven't sat down and explained clearly why the 3 laws prove God exists, doesn't mean that they don't prove such. I have explained in other posts clearly enough that one can explain it to himself if he wants. I would rather you use your ability to think than lay it out completely for you. ---------- The first great doctrine of atheism is that God (supreme being) does not exist. The second is that atheism is not a religion. Following that are many of the scientific theories that are held by atheists as laws of nature. Because these are held as truths, they are doctrines to the holder. For example. There is a sect of atheism that holds that the Big Bang is law, when in reality it is theory (not fact), and probably could never be proven at all even if it HAD HAPPENED. The reason atheists need something like the Big Bang is (even though they are mostly ignorant of it because they hide it from themselves), atheists, like everyone else, don't know for a fact anything about their future. Because of this, they build up all kinds of limited and temporary fantasies in their mind about what they think will happen. Their fantasies are their doctrines, just as formally religious people have doctrines, while all the while each individual's doctrine is slightly (or greatly) different from the individual doctrine of anyone else. It all has to do with the weakness that we all have when trying to predict the future. We think that we would have security if we had control. The atheists try to gain control by making themselves the authority (supreme being) and then try to go about eliminating the supreme being (themselves) in their minds by upholding atheism. Atheism is the most pathetic religion around. It doesn't even deserve to be a religion. But, by its attributes, definitely is one. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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unfortunately, i dont hate any of them they have what they believe is right. but of course atheists hate religion, coz they dont believe it
Sorry to disagree with that! That sort of sentence is what religious people use to play victim! The problem relies on doctrines. You see, isn't the "I believe in this" the problem, it's the "because I believe in this then YOU must do that (or else)". Nobody cares about belief itself. The important point that atheism revolves around, is the idea that God exists. Now that I have shown that God factually exists with the 3 scientific laws, cause and effect, universal entropy, universal complexity, all that is left for atheism is to argue about its own doctrine. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Cleverly ridiculous. Most atheists are so caught up in the thing that they believe, that they don't even realize that it is a religion. And if somebody tells the about it, they would rather ignore it than Google it. But if they Google it and find out it is true, they would rather lie about it, and try to hide the fact rather than embrace the truth. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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