The OP knows that once the owner of a bitcoin wallet loses access to his wallet, he will no longer be able to move bitcoin. But I think he just wanted to know if there is any possibility that bitcoins from that wallet could be moved especially as technology advances.
Since he was asking about the funds getting redistributed back for the community (at least that's how I see his question), the problem is that you don't know if an untouched fund it like that on purpose or because one has lost access. And even if it's on purpose, one should not be forced to move his coins away (again, see collectibles). If he was asking about "technology advances", (afaik) the oldest generation of addresses is considered relatively unsafe. But, as you can see, they are still pretty much safe enough. Satoshi's funds are still there.
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I've quoted it for visibility. It's not bad, although I think that people needing it already have tools showing the volume in a way or another. What I've noticed is that the period of time is rather small and there's no older data available (maybe it will be though when the site grows older). Maybe more values (1000, 10000, ...) should be available based on the user scroll level. Good luck!
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Normal Mode:
It's not even that awfully bad as I thought. I am already using an alternate theme from the BPIP extension and even custom theme is possible there. If there's demand for such a theme (and OP likes is), I guess that maybe you should share it. However, I would not use it. OK, Orange is Bitcoin color, but let's not exaggerate... gray-ish colors are usually better for the eyes and more people like to use them when reading more text. Orange is the best color for your eyes, that's why BMW, Mercedes, Audi etc use Orange inside their cars.
Although it's not that much useful, since the driver looks.. outside.. you know, I'll still give it a try: how many people buy cars with "colored" interiors vs how many buy gray/black like variations? Shocking and making people turn to look at you (no matter it's interior or exterior) is not the same as being pleasant as background for reading.
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So, if a miner will send a transaction, and will put some coins as a fee, then the same miner can simply take less amount in the coinbase transaction, then those fees will be burned. That's why miner-based burning is not limited only to the new coins.
OK, this is an interesting approach. Not such a common practice, but it is possible; actually I think that there were some coins burned (kind of) like this - most probably due to miners' mistakes while experimenting.
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You can burn existing coins, just by sending them as a fee, and then simply not taking them in the coinbase transaction. So yes, you can also burn existing coins in this way.
As already said (just you didn't bother to read), burning coins means getting the amount out of circulation forever. If you send them as fee, they are spent (you no longer have them), but not burned (since the miners receive the fees too, it's considered still in circulation). You are somewhat right, since the link is broken between the spender and the receiver (miner), hence they don't receive the exact same coins (input). But the term "burning" is used for amounts no longer in circulation, not necessarily inputs. This is how I see it.
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How did you make it work?
My take is that, unlike OP, who seems to be scared to do the compulsory windows updates and didn't do them, @Cricktor simply kept his system up-to-date. According to Electrum website, Win 8.1 is supported, hence it should just work (unlike Win 7 and older).
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Since @fillippone seems to have been missing this one, I'll do the honors: ~298 merit sent to ~289 posts in less than 5 minutes. Is DdmrDdmr even human? Well, the thing doing the meriting is definitely not... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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What is an unpopular opinion you hold about bitcoin and cryptocurrency that you will love to share with newbies?
In the same way Bitcoin can eventually reach $1M, it can also eventually fall to 0. No matter how much we trust bitcoin, on this world, the only certain thing is that everything (including this world) will eventually turn into nothingness.
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You don’t even need to open the document itself for the exploit to be set in motion.
This would be quite difficult. And from what I've seen in the YouTube video from @Rizzrack you do have to open it. (Thanks man, it's a very good video.) Does this include all file extensions that are opened by Microsoft Office applications or just the extensions above?
This is a very good question. Modern Word documents are zip files. But same goes, for example, to Excel files too. The malicious file is a cleverly altered Word document, but I don't see why the same thing would not work with any (zip) Office file. But, as you can see at 7:39 there ( https://youtu.be/3ytqP1QvhUc?t=459 ), the hearth of everything is <script>location.href = msdt: where the hacker gives all sort of parameters to msdt exe, which runs them all without questioning (including, sooner or later, cab file/installer, they say). For now I've removed that entry from my registry, but I fear that this is such a wide opportunity they'll very fast find other "servicing" programs they can run in a similar way.
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Even though you're not doing anything wrong, you might potentially lose access to your mined coins.
Exactly. Even more, since they were not sent from a wallet of yours, you cannot prove it's your money. If they're stealing your money you cannot prove they did (i.e. it was ever your money)
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I don't know if only LibreOffice does this or Word too, but I've seen somewhere macros being blocked because the file came from the internet. If Word does that nowadays, then the risk is not so big. I don't know whether Windows Defender also "takes a look" there.
So unless the user disables the security nets, there's a chance he may be safe. But somebody using Office more than I do should confirm whether it's the case.
However, disabling that backdoor is a very good catch, no matter whether the MS Office vulnerability is big or small.
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I haven't used Electrum in a while. When I open my wallet again found the message watching-only I can fix the wallet Is mine back working? Thanks. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) 1. Was this wallet of yours created from an address of public key? Because then it's 100% normal to be watch only. Being watch only is not something you can fix (it's like you you show a photo with a house and want us help turning that photo back to a house). 2. If point 1 is not your case, if you indeed had a proper wallet there some time ago, and you have this problem after an update to newest version (I hope that you've downloaded from Electrum.org and verified it), then maybe you have the same problem as another user had not long ago? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380670.0If neither of these cases is yours, maybe you can give some more details?
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But I am seeing in another direction, it is clear and known by the people and the government that google makes their users to be very vulnerable to scammers. But that is google, google is a company and not a law maker, google is just like other companies that can sue themselves to court because of wrong doing.
Favoring a criminal or being accessory to crime is a crime. As simple as that. Google is doing that, but normal people prefer to watch their back instead of fighting Google's million dollar lawyers. A company can be bias, a company can see their bias but will not amend it when the company notice that they have no competitor. Google competitor is Apple but Apple is for the rich people, aveareg people use Android which uses google search as default and people like it because they do not know what google is doing to them and how it has been monitoring them. Also people lesser than average but not poor also used Android, it can be second hand.
This is not about rich or poor, it's not even about Android or Apple (do you really think that latest top Android devices are for the poor??!???!?!?), no. Google has the top search engine. They use it to earn money and they play the "careless" game because even those scammers are paying customers. Google are to blame but the governments are more to blame because they can make laws that can stop google from making their users to be more vulnerable to online scam. What are the government doing about this? Nothing.
Nothing is what governments do best. On any field. If your expectations are high in that direction... well... you are highly unrealistic.
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My questions is that ' is there any possibility that some point in time in future BTC community might decide something which can retrieve this lost BTCs?
1. We cannot foresee what the future holds. 2. Untouched coins are not necessarily lost. One very common example is the funded collectible coins and items. Hence if it's ever decided that those coins will "return into circulation", that would mean in some cases stealing/confiscation (!). 3. My questions to OP is: why do you think that such move is necessary? Do you know that the maximum (almost) 21M Bitcoin we'll ever have means (nearly) 210 000 000 0000 000 satoshi?
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Do you think the support to the Russian cause will cause these aids to cease? Is the relationship broken forever?
If it was not "broken" when the Ryanair flight hijack was done, I don't see what this war can change. Both have identical root cause: they have there a a dictatorship and that man has obviously chosen Putin's ways, instead of allowing in the "western" democracy. The only problem I see is that this kind of funds are allocated for certain financial cycles and the people of Belarus may still have that ruler there when the curent cycle ends.
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Well as far as I understand people burn their coins in many cases to be able to have the right to receive an altcoin.
In that case, indeed, there are better ways. For example, I remember Byteball was using a bot that was requesting people sign a message (message the bot was sending) with the private key of the Bitcoin address. Then that one was getting the same amount of altcoin as the number of Bitcoin in that address. No coins are lost and ownership is also proven. A nicer and smarter approach imho.
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Im here one year longer than you ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) O M G. 1. Apologies. 2. No offense, but under what rock where you hiding? I mean, you're not asking about anything new... But still in my opinion it does not make sense to burn the coins.
Well, as said, to the rest it does make sense, for various reasons - from proving something to making some addresses of theirs "seen" or leaving on-chain messages to posterity, or simply getting rid of something they consider too small value. If they get redistributed to the miners then they would also be lost to the people that "burned" them but are not lost to the network.
That's correct. However, in some/many cases the goal is different. If they just don't need the (dust) coins they can simply leave them untouched forever in their own wallet. The other coins that you get for the "burned" coins can't benefit in any way if the coins are not redistributed, since if they get redistributed also you can only buy the same amount of coins.
This part I didn't really get, sorry. There are various motifs behind burning coins and I may have not understood good enough your use case. I will only tell that for example Binance is (more or less) regularly burn a fairly big amount of BNB just to make the other coins more scarce (i.e. more expensive).
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What are your thoughts on this?
My thoughts are that you are very new and you get confused by things already discussed. Oh well, it's still one way to learn ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) proof of burn address. [~snip~] In my opinion it does not make sense, since the value is destroyed and not transferred to the other project even if it might seem like it in the first place.
Lost and burned coins do have a good meaning: make everybody's coins more valuable. As Satoshi himself said: Lost coins only make everyone else's coins worth slightly more. Think of it as a donation to everyone.
Also there could be an option built into the bitcoin network to burn coins, but actually insert them into blocks to be redistributed to the miners.
Burning coins and redistributing coins are completely different things. Burning means making the coins completely gone. Those addresses' keys will never be found. Redistributing coins means still keeping them in circulation. There was a discussion somewhat related to this not long ago, maybe this link is in the right direction: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5398949.msg60214879#msg60214879 (or a few posts before) From my understanding, you can easily make transaction that sends nothing to nobody (OP_RETURN) and instead send the funds as miners' fee only. Or, possibly, you can (also with OP_RETURN) lock completely some funds. So imho there are in-built functionalities, just the people don't really know how to use them. And many find it more "cool" to send pennies to Satoshi's address, to 1111111111111111111114oLvT2 or to 1BitcoinEaterAddressDontSendf59kuE.
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Project team owner must have a link through which they can check the performance. That's the link I have put in the ANN.
The thing is that if the link contains "ref" or "refer" it can easily seen as ref link. On the other hand, while the affiliate links should contain words like "ref", "refer", "affiliate", the links like the one you've posted should go on a different route (like, for example, "tag" or "tracking"). This is how I see the things. Of course, I can easily guess that most don't do this.
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Thank God the amount of money lost isn't much
I would not mind a (no so big) $70k donation ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) but In this kind of situation, who do we really blame? - Is it the the celebrity who allowed his account to be hacked, thereby leading to his/her followers loosing their hard earned money
- or do we blame the fans/followers(for their own loss) for trusting the celebrity too much and believing in every single thing he/she posted?
Did the celebrity really want the account get hacked? I don't think so. Why not Twitter for allowing easy passwords, or for allowing the hackers try more than 1 password before locking the account? I find the followers already greedy unknowing sheeple, so I expect it was very easy to squeeze out their money. I think that the actual real blame would go on the lack of a good and effective education system, that would help people get smarter and think, that would allow people rise above the "sheeple" status. How about this? PS. Good luck on suing all the past and actual politicians in the world for this. This is a legitimate question, I actually pondered over this for about a week now before deciding to bring it here to know what you guys think.
I don't find it such a good question. But this is a personal opinion.
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