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3541  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is humanity gone? on: November 22, 2017, 11:28:18 PM
Everywhere we see double faced people. People help you but it seems like they always have an motive behind it. Is humanity really gone?
Humans are still existing but humanity is partially gone. Only few people are practicing being humane.

Perhaps you're just seeing what you want to see. Of course its easier to detect negativity in what people do but its not hard to see as well the good things people do to and for each other. You have to look beyond the negativity and you'll see that humanity is well and still thriving everywhere
To be fair, that does depend a lot on where he lives. There are places where finding any glimpse of morality is pretty much impossible, and people who are depressed or upset rarely start searching the internet or the world for "nice" people.
3542  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Wish I never bought altcoins on: November 22, 2017, 11:26:33 PM
Would have been much better off just leaving everything in bitcoin. Altcoins suck.
When did you bought altcoins, which one? Why don`t you share more informations about what you did. Except your disappointment which is visible, nothing else can`t be seen in your words. Next time try to be more talkative then you are now, I`m sick of people who come here just to cry and cry.
I went trough your post history, this is one of his comments from today https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2433824.msg24929300#msg24929300 where he says that his bags are full with ETH.
What a joke you are, and people like you start fud here on forum. Well done, nice work from you.

NOTE: Take a look in post history of this guy and you will see what spammer he is, and don`t try to help him too much, he wrote just nonsense`s around the forum!
Most of his posts are ultra short too, if not in length then in redundant content.
3543  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are We Dead Without China? on: November 22, 2017, 11:24:57 PM
China doesn't matter. Sure they have a lot of mining power, but if they bail out, or they gets illegalized, the remaining world will just mine the coins. So it doesn't matter with china... demand will also still be high, because chinese will still buy the coin.
I'm pretty sure that unless the Chinese government imprisoned Jihan etc., Bitmain would just move to another country to keep mining.

But overall, other than some scammy BCash pump and dumps, China isn't extremely relevant to crypto. If they regulate it too harshly they will simply miss out on the next industrial revolution.
3544  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: I am scared on: November 22, 2017, 11:23:14 PM
It seems like BCH at times moves in the opposite direction of BTC.  So my advice would be to hold both and use BCH as hedge against the price movements of BTC.  Even if you're not a huge believer in BCH, it's not like it's evil or something like that.  Maybe its' best use case is for a hedging instrument.  And in that way, I am a believer.


It's called market manipulation and in crypto it's not illegal. Alas, there is no such thing as using BCash as a hedge and the best hedge is to stay out of BCash.
3545  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Waves hold for longterm Good or Not? on: November 22, 2017, 11:08:27 PM
i still did not see any serious thing hapenning with WAVES,
you can hold it, but not all in and not 50% of portfolio in =]
Check their roadmap and Telegram. There's enough serious development going on, it's just not priced in yet because of the Bitcoin bull run.
3546  Economy / Speculation / Re: Next 5 year for Bitcoin on: November 22, 2017, 11:07:20 PM
most likely the rise of bitcoin in the next 5 years will probably increase by 60% because this factor covers the development of the world economy as well, so it would be better if we all HODL bitcoin right now
It will almost certainly climb much more than just 60% in the next 5 years if Bitcoin doesn't get replaced, which is not likely. In 2023 we should easily see 50-150k per Bitcoin. I'm more interested in a small amount of altcoins though. There are quite a few that without a doubt will last for many years.

When we are at five years to go, I am certain that during that time bitcoin will become more stronger currency and won't be replaced by any kind of digital currency. It will become the most profitable currency and at the same time a sustainable asset for the future. Most specially we are here to witness the very best price to be achieve and hopefully this will  bring us wealthier life in terms of financial capability.
Most profitable definitely not. But it'll almost certainly be the safest bet to place in crypto for the next 5 years.
If you want to research the safest way to saving money in cryptocurrency, yeah, Bitcoin is really the best choice for anyone want to have a saving money in the cryptocurrency world. However, the price of Bitcoin always changes because its volatility is unstable.
Volatility can't be "unstable", it can only be high or low. And going all in on any one asset is never a safe way to invest money, so even in (or especially in) crypto it's a good idea to diversify a bit.
3547  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: I'll never buy Bitcoin cash on: November 22, 2017, 11:06:05 PM
BCH is a new coin at a fantastic price. and its value is increasingly rising day by day. In addition, this coin coincided with BTC. But I got a warning from one of the exchange sites about BCH coins, to be more careful in investment. Maybe some people have contradictions with this coin. back again. each has different judgments and all of them must be accountable if themselves respectively
It's price increased due to market manipulation, the value is nonexistant. If crypto was regulated, Jihan and Ver would be in jail very soon.
It's pnd scheme, the more bitcoin cash try to spread a crap thing about that in the crypto users. that likes a cancer. Jihan and roger try to control the bitcoin cash as their coin.
They are know about the pump of the bitcoin cash and that's why roger already bought huge amouts of bitcoin cash.
Looks like they've failed miserably though. Seems like the amount of shills has been slowly decreasing as well, at least over here.
3548  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥Tokugawa Coin 🔥 Japanese Masternode 🔥1000% ROI🔥Buy in ICO on: November 22, 2017, 10:59:19 PM
Its great.., more and more MN a live now. It will be good news in a couple days.
When You'll see TOK at 10$ You'll have the worst day of your life....

If TOK gets to $10 per coin I'll eat my hat. lol. $1 per coin is maybe more realistic.

If TOK doesnt touch $10. I will eat my nose by myself Grin
Does that include wash trades? If not I hope you'll stream your meal somewhere.
3549  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] SONM: Supercomputer Organized by Network Mining on: November 22, 2017, 09:17:43 PM
My girlfriend thinks I am going crazy with SONM.

Is it just me? Smiley
I wouldn't even disclose anything regarding my finances to a girlfriend. Would just turn them into a magnet for potentially wrong reasons.
3550  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2017, 09:13:08 PM
It's 100% scam, the design is similar to S9/S7 he just replaced the sticker and made a fake stat

https://twitter.com/adam3us/status/933348194062360577

Au contraire?
This makes me happy.

I assume they accept BTC instead of BCash for their miners?
3551  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2017, 01:26:55 PM
https://halongmining.com

A new ASIC manufacturer might be on the horizon.
I might be wrong, but I believe there was a new one in Japan as well?
3552  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 22, 2017, 12:59:33 PM
This is today’s article from The Australian (a national newspaper and it is the most bullish thing I have read in the mainstream media.   You can skip most of it but read point 4.




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Why Bitcoin Will Fail

As bitcoin — an alternative global currency — breaks another new record with a serious jump in value this week to cross $US8,300, one of the world’s biggest banks has spelled out why it won’t work.
 
Paris based BNP Paribas has gone beyond the usual arguments about crime, security and tax evasion to pinpoint why bitcoin can’t fulfil the promise at the heart of its success — to offer consumers an alternative means of exchange to banks and currencies as we know them.
 
The French Bank is reacting to the growing acceptance of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies around the world. In Japan, bitcoin has been accepted as “a legitimate method of payment,” while in the US, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange is planning to trade bitcoin futures.
Here’s the main flaws from BNP Paribas:
 
1. It offers no lender of last resort — Every shaky European bank would certainly understand quickly the importance of this function in a currency. If there is a crisis, bitcoin has no well funded regulator to step in and cover losses. BNP says in that scenario consumers would rush to find real cash which could in turn create a run on banks, the biggest nightmare in the financial system.
 
2. Deflation — Though speculators love that there is only a finite number of bitcoins, this means you have the opposite of inflation as a looming problem. With just 16.7 million bitcoins in circulation, the risk of inflation is eliminated but deflation, already an issue in global trade, could cause a range of problems in the future.
3. Unreliable exchange of value — Bitcoin’s wildly fluctuating share price is perfect for traders but hell for consumers if they wish to use it in any significant fashion.
 
4. No profits for central banks — If bitcoin genuinely starts to replace cash as we know it central banks will lose a key source of income called seigniorage, which is the profit they get from printing money. No government will want to subsidise central banks which have lost a revenue source.
 
In short, BNP Paribas infers bitcoin could undermine the global monetary system as we know it. On that basis that bank suggests a global coordinated move to regulate bitcoin is on the cards. In Sydney, AMP chief economist Shane Oliver has also been looking at the issue. Usefully, Oliver says he does not
fully understand bitcoin (who really does?) and though he worries it is a bubble he also says there is every chance the value of bitcoin may keep going up for some time. Intriguingly, Oliver also floats the idea that bitcoin and its cryptocurrency variants may survive — or at least the blockchain technology behind them may survive. But Oliver believes the cryptocurrencies of the future will be official just like the legal tender of notes and coins of today.
Love the butthurt.

A bank run would not be a problem if banks actually had the money they pretend they have.

Deflation is a good thing for normal people, but bad for banks. The Establishment and The People will ever be at odds.

Fuck the banksters.
The last time I used a bank those dipshits tried to increase my interest rate on a student loan without informing me of it.
Then they tried to make it seem like the "better option", even though there was absolutely no benefit from switching the loan over other than a commission to the dumbass at the counter and additional money into the pockets of the bank.
When I destroyed them with the wonders of Mathematics and facts they became very quiet and didn't know how to react. What a fun day.

I wonder how many people they manage to scam with their "nice" attitudes.

So yeah, I hope banks will be obliterated by cryptos.
3553  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] MilkCoin [MLCN] - Agricultural Enterprise ICO 15.11.2017 on: November 22, 2017, 12:06:34 PM
Announce!

Unfortunately, since MilkCoin raised only 2% of the Softcap, we are giving back all funds that we received. We will start the return on the 21st of November. Huge thanks to our backers!

The project failed? This is so sad that the project did not make it, its so hard to think that we cant even get a small amount of bounty for our effort in joining the campaign for almost 6 weeks.
The market is too immature. Crypto traders are mostly mindless zombies who don't know what the fuck they are trading.

Once we get some serious investors and traders who understand fundamentals projects like MilkCoin will get funded very easily.
3554  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] 🔥Tokugawa Coin 🔥 Japanese Masternode 🔥1000% ROI🔥Buy in ICO on: November 22, 2017, 11:44:18 AM

And yet somehow all those news link are the same article word by word, nobody bothered to edit it out a bit, all taken from the same source which you somehow forgot to mention in your news list: http://www.abnewswire.com/pressreleases/tokugawa-coin-announces-that-their-ico-is-almost-successful_162390.html
Nothing about it on real news media outlets so it's more like fake news if you ask me. But do continue the charade.
The links already gave it pretty much away before even clicking on them. Tongue
3555  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: █【ANN】【ICO】█【PRE-SALE】 🌟 【SOLD OUT】 ██ 🌟 BLOCKLANCER ██ JOIN GIG ECONOMY BOOM on: November 22, 2017, 11:10:36 AM
First Blocklancer Dev Diary entry as posted on their Telegram/Website:


https://publication.blocklancer.net/dev-diary-1-3b87e9b1dc35

Looking forward to the yellow paper.
3556  Other / Politics & Society / Re: how to break teenage video game addiction on: November 22, 2017, 10:59:30 AM
You cant break that but you can limit. Make them try other things like sports or music(instrument).
That's something that would have to happen before someone gets hooked on video games though. It's just much easier and much more convenient to play games than to pick up a sport or an instrument.
3557  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: ANN [MCO] MONACO #1 Cryptocurrency Payments Card on: November 22, 2017, 09:03:14 AM
Sorry to say I am out and just sold the 900 tokens I had Sad  .  I made 10% on them atleast.   I hope this succeeds for investors sake.  I feel for the people who paid top dollar for it.

 Personally I think that the competition might be too much from Tenx (PAY) already having a working card.  Members in the U.S. are already receiving cards and they look very good.

Best of luck to those that remain.  Its always sad to see an investment not perform. Doesnt mean it wont in the future. For me I just prefer to put my money elsewhere.
This is how I feel too.

MonaCo was one of my absolute favourite ICOs and I was very disappointed about how they treated the AC issue and tried to just shrug it off.

If not for that I would be doubling down right now, but given the situation I chose to exit as well in favour of projects like SONM.

We hear you and understand your emotion.
In fact, the token value is strongly correlated to the number of users on Monaco platform. Every single holder of Monaco Platinum card needs to hold tokens and will also earn MCO through up to 2% cashback on all transactions. Utility of the token will increase over time - an example cited in the recent Q&A is discounts on fee when paying with MCO.
You apparently haven't heard me and there really is no emotion involved. It's simply an objective analysis of what has happened so far.
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All of the above has much bigger impact that the Asset Contract. It's our view that the sell off on the day of Visa announcement was driven by technical trading, i.e. people waiting to sell on the day of the Visa announcement, rather than the news of Asset Contract removal. Having said that, we understand this is an important matter for the community and are looking into rolling out a replacement that will be fully compliant and not carry any legal risks that would potentially negatively impact token holders.
As you're apparently a community/PR type of manager, I doubt you're grasping the impact of the asset contract since even Kris himself claims this to be the case.

But it's patently false that the asset contract would have less of an impact for investors returns. And the fact that MonaCo still claims that the asset contract, which was meant to directly share the potential billions of annual revenue with investors makes this whole endeavour seem either extremely immature or outright dishonest.
Only someone who doesn't understand the value of the asset contract or someone who straight up benefits from the removal of it would taint it as impactless or even worthless as Kris put it.

I am actually shocked that MonaCo still hasn't rectified its stance on this matter and keeps going with the ridiculous "worthless" narrative.


I do agree that the dump was in part due to technical trading, and I don't see why MCO should care since the company will make more profits by removing the asset contract simply because MCO already has its ICO money and doesn't need to concern itself with the token price as long as people start using the cards.

And traders would trade anything regardless of fundamentals as long as it makes them money, they care about nothing else after all.

So sure, from MCO's perspective the asset contract is worthless, MCO will make more money without it since it won't have to share any of its profits. But from any investor's perspective that actually knows what he's doing it's the last nail in the coffin.
Refer to my conservative calculations based on current card orders in a previous post for details. In the mid to long term the asset contract was the value of the token.
3558  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitconnect to the Moon! on: November 21, 2017, 11:31:13 PM
Ponzi to the moon, wee.

Good luck not getting burnt if you bother with scams like this.

We aren't certain about what's going on with this investment firm about bitconnect, but it will be certain if investors who really wanted easy profit without any effort. All of this situations might be so attractive othe new coming investors, but we couldn't do anything about the assurance of safety against the investments of all people who've been part of it. No one can really determine that this is a ponzi scheme, and we only knew it in a long run on how it will sustain for long period of time.
Anyone who understands finance is absolutely certain that BCC is a ponzi/scam. The numbers don't add up and there is no KYC/DD process that could sustain even much more reasonable numbers.
3559  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: November 21, 2017, 10:48:28 PM
I love how BCH is old news already  Cheesy
What is BCH? Do you mean BCash?
3560  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitconnect to the Moon! on: November 21, 2017, 10:47:29 PM
Ponzi to the moon, wee.

Good luck not getting burnt if you bother with scams like this.
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