A further 7 weeks, which he agreed to. 7 weeks = $840. Proof is in the pictures.
Ok, I took deeper look. They can't really change terms of this deal because it is not stated that they can change them http://archive.is/ZflfZ [1] This is stated in rules: 1 If you do NOT make a minimum of 25 constructive posts/week, you may be removed from the Campaign 2 If you change/modify your signature/avatar/personal text during this Campaign, you will be disqualified and not paid for your participation 3 If you participate in any other Campaign during this one, you will be disqualified and not paid for your participation
I can remove you from the Campaign at any time, for whatever reason Since when? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqlalggA.png&t=664&c=KG5eeI8lvOC3kw) Unless you can prove last rule has been added recently, they can kick you out of campaign for whatever reason they have, unless they changed terms then they can't kick you unless you break rules marked as 1, 2 and 3. So if you can't prove this, I would suggest you to stop ranting about they kicked you out of campaign.
@jeremypwr, how do you call this: When I acknowledged my mistake, I agreed to pay him after he deleted all the FUD. So he deleted it, and rightfully so. As I understand this, their accusations started because you didn't count posts correctly and you refused to pay WaffleMaster, then you realize your mistake and you ask them to remove posts it they want to get payed. How would you call it, If I own you money and I say delete posts about me if you want to see your money? Sorry guys, but I will be forced to cancel the remainder of my Campaigns if this immature poster doesn't knock it off.
I hate to take money out of your pockets, but this person is not doing anyone any favors with his behavior.
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I hope anybody with some trust rating can have a say in this scamming and extortion totaling $960 Remind me, how is that 960$ You were only one week in campaign, 1 week = 120$.
When I acknowledged my mistake, I agreed to pay him after he deleted all the FUD. So he deleted it, and rightfully so.
How do you call this?
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If DarkStar_ can't then how did that scammer send the tokens to DarkStar_ in the first place?
Probably hydro messed up something with code and holders can send less old hydro tokens than they hold: You must send 1 less token than your current balance to burn your old Hydro successfully. Perhaps to try that?
May be the exchanges can stop incoming wrong tokens programmatically.
They really can't, as I said, you are not really sending tokens to exchange, you are sending tokens to ethereum wallet which is owned by exchange.
@DarkStar_ I'm not entirely sure it's possible to unburn a token if that is what has happened?
Tokens in darkstars_'s wallet are not burned, and I don't think that address mentioned in hydro's medium is burning address. In case tokens are burned there is no possible way to recover them, as it is some kind of self destruct contract.
I hope it's ok to share the PM here since there are nothing to hide. yishak actually PMed me yesterday unexpectedly... ~
I have never scammed anyone except this time ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Answer is somewhere in code, perhaps DarkStar can't send tokens from that address? Not sure. Why they issued new tokens in first place? Perhaps they fucked up something in code first time. I am just guessing. So I figured it's because the address was an exchange address. I may ask DarkStar_ to send the tokens to an ERC20 address which I own.
It doesn't matter, you can send every token to exchange address even if they are not listed on that exchange because you are not really sending tokens to exchange ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) However, they won't show in your balance if they are not listed.
Look, there are plenty of reasons why you shouldn't accept erc tokens as collateral, whole investing in ICO is one big gamble and these tokens have "ability" to literally crash over night, then your collateral will be worth nothing, don't get me wrong on this, but whoever borrows money from you doesn't really have obligation to repay loan as they already gave you collateral, right? It is shady, I know, just saying. After all, you will take higher collateral than your loan is worth(20% in this case), in any case whoever borrow money from you will pay huge interest. Anyway, it is better to use top 10 altcoins as collateral, as someone already suggested, unless you really know what you are doing.
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The user sent outdated token which he did not burn. I didn't know this can happen. That's an expensive lesson in handling Ethereum tokens! I've added some red to the scam-account too. I can only see it as another reason to stay away from tokens created out of thin air. Tokens were reissued and everyone who was holding old hydro tokens have received new hydro tokens. All holders got instructions how to burn old tokens, unfortunately, this scammer took advantage of whole situation, didn't burn tokens and they scammed mdayonliner.
It is indeed, from now on I will ask the borrower to send any token directly to the exchanges (either to me or to the escrow), no exception. My original thread actually says that token has to be sent to the exchanges but at the end I wanted to be more flexible for this scammer. Little know I had the idea that this would cost me a lot.
I don't think it is good solution to hold escrowed funds or collateral in exchange. You should have done more research about tokens before taking them as collateral(or before sending money to scammer), well, we all learn on our own mistakes, I hope you won't do the same mistake again. I would suggest everyone who is in token handing business (especially escrow, lending, buying from third party) to do the same.
It is important to look at smart contract address and to see if it is correct one, and, of course, to read yellow messages with important info. On side noteICOethics has PM'd me something interesting few days ago, I hope they won't mind me posting it here, apparently these guys, whoever they are - https://etherscan.io/address/0xf24246e0d5399ea85dbdadcfdbc9e8f14490db58#tokentxns - are issuing fake tokens, giving them symbols of true tokens and after that they simple send tokens to etherdelta. Whoever buys them will buy fake worthless tokens. So, to repeat again, it is very important to double check smart contract.
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Dear marlboroza, can We
No. but can We
No. can We agree
No. Please listen sir, can We agree on
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You are also breaking forum rules. BTW what happened to your fake team members?
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The use sent outdated token which were burned actually.
Tokens are outdated but they are not burned.
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I sincerely think that this BTC address has been tagged along this account to whosoever buys it; right from the beginning (probably even when the most trusted and experienced scammy bounty manager bought it).
Well, he was able to sign message, there is no proof he bought account....unless you can find extraordinary evidence. OP lock topic. What about signing from that other wallet address you've used 1aTrizet7ocQ7nrfPcYiFhbtDPMF8Wfri ?? This is much better, they signed message from address 1LjT88X7Zu8BdbqJw8vfRa83NJuzYL9kqm which is part of this wallet https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/00cdfd0ad00accce/addresses, only address with balance(+0.815419 BTC ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) ) in that wallet is this one 113rXnvYFr2ob5BC6Jw3xFYXmDnNbJ5Fq5 Waiting for aTriz to say they lost private keys ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Alright, let's clear some stuff in the minimal time I have to spare. ~ He's just plain out lying here.
Ok, thanks for clearing that.
One more thing: jamalaezaz bought my signature and avatar space. the BitcoinAir.org is his project.
and I sent snakey address to send the eth.
Both transactions (0.35 and 0.3)?
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jamalaezaz bought my signature and avatar space. the BitcoinAir.org is his project.
and I sent snakey address to send the eth.
Both transactions (0.35 and 0.3)?
Now that I have your attention, can you address this https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4433626.msg39713327#msg39713327 and explain what blockeye said? Atriz offer me writing article for verify project for double stakes and I sold my stakes in one of my facebook GC regarding crypto since I don't want token. After I announce about my stakes for sale. He offer me to buy it. I don't have time to check if I receive the token so he just added me on a GC with other guy and he tell us to transfer now the token to him.
Note: You can contact atriz regarding this offer that I mention. Start reading from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4433626.msg39610317#msg39610317 and please read everything before you answer. That address contains more than enough money to repay sneaky.
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Isn't it more likely jamalaezaz paid the 0.3 eth to snakey? Say aTriz did a job for jamalaezaz and had him pay to snakey's address?
I'd like to believe that, rather than they're alt accounts--and I have a feeling the former is true. I'd also like to hear what aTriz or jamalaezaz has to say about the matter. Damn good detective work, though. Well, they should because aTriz repayed loan using jamalaezaz eth addy and noah tall's addy. It doesn't look good at all, backing up scammer with expensive but worthless dice bot script, lying to investors, now this ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
Speaking of jamalaezaz, again, http://archive.is/ACKDh: Bounty Update:All Bounty Tokens are Received Under my Escrow.
Here is the Wallet with Bounty tokens for you to follow: https://etherscan.io/address/0xe4E4e31a719f3BDbD50DB3b54105Bf0F9930dC00#tokentxns
Soon I'll start Distributing the Tokens to all accepted participants. Speaking of that addy, account lady royal said it is not addy from exchange http://archive.is/aGG9z : Hi, I want to join this campaign under you Yahoo,last time was a great experience joining a Campaign under you. Here are my details Sir.
Bitcoitalk Username - Lady Royal Rank - Sr.Member Current post count 321 332 (I've made a mistake) including this post BTC address - 1FfCHYS9wF6NbzZMEqudqi9KbTv7DYC1qz ETH address(not from an exchange) - Sir, I will update this once I am in the campaign. 0xe4E4e31a719f3BDbD50DB3b54105Bf0F9930dC00 Wear appropriate signature - YES
Thank you. That is not all, Joel_Jantsen has found connection 2 years ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg15965404#msg15965404 http://archive.is/MSdpj and some of accounts, including timelord's finding as well, probably changed hands.
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Sneaky said atriz repayed them 0.3ETH and atriz confirmed it ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3253973.msg42771511#msg42771511 archived here http://archive.is/rcEMg): Nice to see, I am hoping you will get, but its all your mistake. slowly I am working on these issues. Everyone can see ethereum came from this address 0x9fdb6136ac1651c2cab896fd502d9cb2374d8e1aThere is possibility It means, this address belongs to atriz. Lets take a look at that address for a while: It was used here... Proof of authentication: Bounty Program: Twitter Twitter Username: https://twitter.com/bttdeepblue01Bitcointalk Username: Btcschool Ethereum Address: 0x9fDB6136Ac1651c2Cab896fD502d9cB2374d8e1A...also here http://archive.is/4w38g , here http://archive.is/8HIa2 , here http://archive.is/Bs1Ct , here http://archive.is/qJGrb , here http://archive.is/4ek3U and here http://archive.is/HIZGDAccount btcschool was -ve tagged 2 years ago: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fi6y52bp.png&t=664&c=PZuZdWaRNljWHA) My research leads to old 2 years old timelord's finding https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg14190362#msg14190362 where they connected 3 accounts: jamalaezaz, Btcschool, extrabyte Now, taking deeper look at transactions: First ethereum transaction ever made to this address was 640 days ago, this is txID https://etherscan.io/tx/0x658f67697f168ae5912d560dbda627bf8a72e51dbcc212fb8786027e9026d791Everyone can see 0.005ETH came from this address 0x8420537853d39bcaffef48cd5128e8898a18abfa This address was posted here ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1697050.msg17066890#msg17066890 archived http://archive.is/Dn6m8): Btctalk name: jamalaezaz Post count: 1153 (with this) Add appropriate signature code: yes XAUR wallet addy: 0x8420537853d39BCAffEf48Cd5128E8898A18ABfA
Thank You.
Also, jamalaezaz posted the same address here http://archive.is/m8I31, here http://archive.is/JllmW and the same address was used by account wiro212 (archived http://archive.is/OyEqp): please change my address to this : 0x8420537853d39BCAffEf48Cd5128E8898A18ABfA
thank you
And if you think this is not solid proof, feel free to check debitium bounty spreadsheet https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TkIkv4i9RBzg0c1HmPr4fwYTFqPnLNx6z5eP6mgazNQ/edit#gid=739551959You will find, under number 918, half year ago, using the same address atriz used to repay snakey... ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUTJogEA.png&t=664&c=nQ91jnCYHjWr-g) ...account btcschool, jamalaezaz's alt account.
Oh, yeah, sorry, I forget to mention this http://archive.is/SCeAN#selection-3149.0-3153.30 too: username: jamalaezaz
awesome promotions. thank you.
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Nice to see, I am hoping you will get, but its all your mistake. slowly I am working on these issues. Quoted for reference. TP would love this Lauda too. Some will laugh Some will cry. Some will cry laughing.
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Oh, my bad, I thought they were referring to something else, as I already pointed this post yesterday (it is only 2 posts above mprep's first reply in this topic https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4745113.msg42977298#msg42977298 ) so it doesn't look like " I'd PM Cyrus about recovering the deleted post, but it seems like you've already reposted it." is referring to post in different bounty thread. True, maybe they meant " i will PM Cyrus about recovering the deleted post" but " it seems that you have already made another post in different thread which has nothing to do with deleted post and topic we are talking about"? Yeah, that makes sense, silly me ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Question is still live - why is this post removed? It is not off topic reply, topic wasn't deleted/trashed...could it be because of this: Posting the same thing to several threads might be considered multi-posting / duplicate posting (especially if the threads said duplicate posts were posted in are about the same project ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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I did go through the report logs and while someone did report your post (and it's marked as handled), it seems like not only your post, but the entire thread was deleted alongside it. Not sure how post notifications work when a thread is deleted instead of trashed but maybe it's sent out on thread deletion (=/= thread trashing) as well. The thread you're linking to is a newer one.
It is not new thread. Take a look, post was right between these two posts http://prntscr.com/kc18nc archived again here http://archive.is/vkJiW , and this is thread with my post in it https://archive.is/2wDMN also thread is still under this number 4723436.0 so it is the same thread. If that's the case, not really sure why it got deleted. The only report that seems to be related to the situation is pointing to a deleted thread. I'd PM Cyrus about recovering the deleted post, but it seems like you've already reposted it.Huh? I did not repost anything neither I replied anything in that thread since my post was removed. Wth? Also, I've never asked for its recovery, my question is very simple - why post was removed. Expected answer would be " your post have been removed because it violated forum rule number X..." and I don't ask for anything more that this. But OK, as you didn't removed it, Welsh said they can only deal with newbie accounts there, that post very likely mysteriously disappeared ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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I did go through the report logs and while someone did report your post (and it's marked as handled), it seems like not only your post, but the entire thread was deleted alongside it. Not sure how post notifications work when a thread is deleted instead of trashed but maybe it's sent out on thread deletion (=/= thread trashing) as well. The thread you're linking to is a newer one.
It is not new thread. Take a look, post was right between these two posts http://prntscr.com/kc18nc archived again here http://archive.is/vkJiW , and this is thread with my post in it https://archive.is/2wDMN also thread is still under this number 4723436.0 so it is the same thread. Also, seems like whoever handled the report, marked a duplicate report from a user as valid, which makes me believe I wasn't the one who deleted your post (I use a script that highlights duplicates) and AFAIK I haven't deleted (not trashed) any threads at least in the past week.
It wasn't duplicate post as far as I am concerned. It was the only "red" post for that project. Warning users that a project is a scam is not off-topic. Posting the same thing to several threads might be considered multi-posting / duplicate posting (especially if the threads said duplicate posts were posted in are about the same project).
I am not sure how this can be considered as multi-posting or duplicate posting. It is scam warning. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Thanks for your reply, at least we know this wasn't off topic reply. @marlboroza, Welsh is also a moderator of that board, you can PM him to have your answer.
I wasn't aware of it because I didn't see their forum nick http://archive.is/CzPrB ![Embarrassed](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/embarrassed.gif) , anyway, they can reply here if they want to ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
You are not in a position to threatening people with negative trust, in a way you are trying to moderate the scam while the forum does not moderate scams. what you could do however would be to tag their ANN account/bounty manager so that bounty participants see the tag and start investigating further.
You are like that boring fly in the summer morning.
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