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3561  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Buying Bitcoin with credit cards / 3d secure on: August 16, 2013, 02:50:39 AM
IMHO, the best way to allow people to buy Bitcoins with credit cards is to do something like this:

http://www.reddit.com/r/BitSpend/comments/1gqjf8/an_open_letter_to_the_bitspend_team/

Basically, sidestep the currency exchange entirely.
3562  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Trust No US Companies With The Future Of Bitcoin on: August 15, 2013, 10:31:19 PM
http://bitcoinmagazine.com/trust-no-us-companies-with-the-future-of-bitcoin/

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I would strongly recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States. –Ladar Levison

Secure email providers Lavabit and Silent Circle have taken the heroic steps of shutting down their businesses in order to preserve their integrity. Unfortunately the definition of heroism necessarily implies that their actions are heroic because they are unusual. Their actions surprised us because most companies, when faced between choosing between continued operation and honoring the trust their users have given them, toss integrity aside.

Even though Levinson was speaking in the context of communication providers, his words apply equally well to Bitcoin. A police state is no less interested in controlling the flows of money between its subjects than it is in monitoring and controlling the flows of communication.

2013 was a great and terrible year for US Bitcoin companies. Several high profile companies received significant venture backing, which is good insofar as a recognition of their success and growth potential. However this also puts them in a hostage situation.

The investors backing these companies naturally want to not only receive a return on their investment, but to have the principle itself returned. This natural desire to get their money back serves as an effective means of control over them by bureaucrats who are capable of using their legal power to make the value of those investments evaporate on a whim. Because of this risk and others, venture capitalists normally insist on gaining significant control over the companies they invest in. This means that you should expect that when the US government says, “jump”, every venture-funded Bitcoin company will reply, “how high?” Hoping they will all have the courage of Lavabit is unrealistic.

From its inception, Bitcoin was destined to come into conflict with laws and regulators in the same way P2P file sharing did, and from its inception some people respond to Bitcoin’s potential by suggesting that it be changed to make it more compatible with the systems of legal control it was designed to evade.

Some of the proposals which have been suggested in the past include: adding the capability to reverse transactions, confiscation of balances, creating a central authority that can whitelist and/or blacklist addresses, and requiring all users to register their wallets with a government agency. So far none of these have been implemented into the protocol but the pressure to do so is will only continue to increase, especially by venture-funded companies, especially in the USA.

Ultimately it will be up to the international Bitcoin community to resist these pressures. The US government has a long reach, but non-US Bitcoin users have the ability to operate beyond it if they choose to develop that capability. It would be an enormously positive sign for Bitcoin if communities in Europe, Russia, China, and Latin America started their own development initiatives.

Bits of Proof and btcd are positive steps towards making the Bitcoin protocol resistant to arbitrary change by a small group. The best possible outcome for the network is to be composed of heterogeneous nodes, consisting of independent implementations which only implement protocol changes via a standardization process which involves near-universal consensus.

The single best step the global Bitcoin community could take to ensure this outcome is to create and fund projects that implement alternate Bitcoin implementations in a manner independent of any US person, company, or organization.

Bitcoin promises to be a neutral and international monetary standard, which provides a level playing field for participants all over the world. In order to realize this potential, it must be protected from the controlling influences of any single government, even if this causes some short term difficulty for Bitcoin users and companies under the control of one of those governments. It’s time for users around the world to step up and make sure not all their Bitcoin eggs are trapped in the US basket.
3563  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin and Crime and why Bitcoin WILL succeed on: August 15, 2013, 10:04:25 PM
The ability of Bitcoin to enable crime is good, because every day more of what regular people want to do is being made illegal.

Everybody is a criminal, but not everybody realizes they are.
3564  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin could bring about smaller governments - and that is a good thing on: August 15, 2013, 09:04:07 PM
You talk about it as if there's a hard delineation between government and corporate: the actual line is incredibly blurry. The separation of these roles is becoming increasingly meaningless.
No, there is no line. There never was a line.

Corporations are creations of and effectively subsidiaries of government.

Saying that "when government power goes down, corporate power goes up" is nonsense, because corporations only exist because of government power. Without government there would be no corporations.

You've fallen into a common trap where the government fills the role of "good cop" and the corporations fill the role of "bad cop". The difference between them is a figment of your imagination.
3565  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The Anonymity concept is holding back the Revolution - dicussion thread on: August 15, 2013, 08:19:44 PM
That's a fair and obvious statement to many, but it seems the context of this conversation is how US regulation is softening the anonymity aspect of Bitcoin.
US regulation is compromising the integrity of US-based bitcoin companies. That is all.

I don't see any US-based Bitcoin companies fighting regulation. They all want it. If they don't, they won't be able to do business at all.

So compromised integrity in the eyes of a rest of world bitcoin users/companies, but necessary for them to operate in the US.
http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/08/trust-no-us-companies-with-future-of.html
3566  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Lavabit— A best case outcome for blockchain.info? on: August 15, 2013, 06:33:20 PM
http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/08/trust-no-us-companies-with-future-of.html
3567  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The Anonymity concept is holding back the Revolution - dicussion thread on: August 15, 2013, 05:24:21 PM
That's a fair and obvious statement to many, but it seems the context of this conversation is how US regulation is softening the anonymity aspect of Bitcoin.
US regulation is compromising the integrity of US-based bitcoin companies. That is all.
3568  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin could bring about smaller governments - and that is a good thing on: August 15, 2013, 05:23:17 PM
i don't think smaller governments are necessarily a good thing, in theory or in practice. when a government has less power, corporations have more power. yes, there may be problems with the government, lots of corruption. but it is still for the people. we should not replace government with corporations. it would be terrible for the world and the future of humanity. unfortunately it is starting to happen and it looks like the government is somewhat/partially owned by corporations.
Nonsense.

Where do you think corporations get their limited liability, charters, and special privileges from? The Incorporation Fairy?
3569  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: The Anonymity concept is holding back the Revolution - dicussion thread on: August 15, 2013, 05:14:39 PM
If it's going to be used on any scale in the US from here on out, there are rules in place that have to be conformed to in terms of AML, KYC, BSA, etc. Modification of the rules in some form would make sense but who knows if reason will prevail.
Bitcoin doesn't need the US.

It would be far better for Bitcoin to be banned in the US than it would be to change its fundamental nature.
3570  Other / Off-topic / Re: Lavabit.com and Tormail Email Alternatives... on: August 15, 2013, 07:17:25 AM
I see it as an incremental step. It's hard to get people to change at all, but it's less hard to convince them to add some protection to their existing communication medium than it is to convince them to adopt an entirely new platform.
3571  Other / Off-topic / Re: Lavabit.com and Tormail Email Alternatives... on: August 15, 2013, 07:09:40 AM
Speaking of OTR...

http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/08/facebook-chats-can-be-private.html
3572  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: (Guaging interest) How many people here would want silk screenprinting for BTC? on: August 15, 2013, 05:52:28 AM
Is it too bold to use BTC as currency in this way while accepting its volatility? I was thinking about laying down some of my own cash for the printing work and keeping a percentage of the coinage, vending custom silkscreen work here basically..
https://bitpay.com/bitcoin-direct-deposit
3573  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: BitCoins for Edward Snowden. on: August 15, 2013, 05:13:28 AM
USA official declare him enemy of state so why you call him hero
Because the government of the USA are terrorists.
3574  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: Is FastCash4Bitcoins.com breaking the law? on: August 15, 2013, 02:09:39 AM
I believe the only way for bitcoin to thrive is for all merchants to be transparent, honest and regulated as required by their respective government.
Spock disagrees.
3575  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Dallas, Texas on: August 14, 2013, 11:11:00 PM
There are miners who are members of the group, but they don't generally show up. We mostly get people who are new to Bitcoin.
3576  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [ANNOUNCE] Android key rotation on: August 14, 2013, 06:21:46 PM
I would have, but at the time, I was fresh out of radioactive material. Maybe next time.
Pick up some banana from the grocery store next time.
3577  Other / Off-topic / Re: Spread the OTR love on: August 14, 2013, 06:14:02 PM
Facebook is tracked by NSA and shouldn't be used anyways
We can convince more people to at least encrypt their communications so the contents are secure than we can convince to abandon the platform entirely.
3578  Other / Off-topic / Spread the OTR love on: August 14, 2013, 04:02:33 AM
Quickstart guide for encrypting Facebook chats with OTR:

http://bitcoinism.blogspot.com/2013/08/facebook-chats-can-be-private.html
3579  Other / Off-topic / Re: Americans are now ashamed of their Satanic country (USA) on: August 13, 2013, 06:56:54 PM
I know this may sound weird, but I do get this suspicion that there is something wrong with us, the way we live, the way we treat each other and the way we feel we need to control others to give ourselves more power.

This is not about America, this is about life on this Earth. Something feels wrong and off, it always has
Would you rather your feelings remain as just suspicions, or would you like to see relevant evidence that would convert them into knowledge?
3580  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: Austin Texas Bitcoin Meetup Aug 13 (Tue) at 7:00 pm AND Aug 17 (Sat) 5:00! on: August 13, 2013, 04:33:11 PM
Sure
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