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3561  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 87 dead after crane collapses at world’s holiest mosque in Mecca on: September 29, 2015, 09:33:49 PM



Iranian general suggests Saudi tragedies orchestrated by Israel


The deputy chief of staff of the Iranian armed forces suggested Monday that the deadly Mecca crane collapse and hajj stampede were orchestrated by Israel and Saudi Arabia.

At least 107 people were killed and 238 injured when a crane collapsed on the Grand Mosque during a storm on September 11. The head of Saudi Arabia’s civil defense directorate said high winds caused the incident, which also led to the death of a top Iranian scientist. Last week, over 700 people were trampled to death during the annual hajj pilgrimage in Mecca, including some 150 Iranian nationals.


http://www.timesofisrael.com/iranian-general-suggests-saudi-tragedies-orchestrated-by-israel/


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But of course...

3562  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The United Nations has a radical, dangerous vision for the future of the Web on: September 29, 2015, 09:01:25 PM



UN group calls for more Internet rules


A recent United Nations report calls for more international rules for the Internet, especially with respect to how nations treat each other.

"Making cyberspace stable and secure can be achieved only through international cooperation," said the report, published last week, "and the foundation of this cooperation must be international law and the principles of the Charter of the United Nations."

Among its findings, the report said state actors "should not conduct or knowingly support" cyber crime "that intentionally damages critical infrastructure or otherwise impairs the use and operation of critical infrastructure to provide services to the public." To that end, it said, there should be "effective cooperation among States to reduce risks to international peace and security."

It additionally suggests that nations should respect human rights, suggesting that they "comply with their obligations under international law to respect and protect human rights and fundamental freedoms."

The group recommended that the UN play "a leading role in promoting dialogue" on "the application of international law and norms, rules and principles for responsible State behavior" in the field of cybersecurity, and asked that the UN General Assembly schedule the group to reconvene in 2016.

The statements in the report echo those made by Secretary of State John Kerry in a speech in South Korea this year. Kerry suggested that countries not be permitted to damage or impede critical infrastructure, or prevent emergency teams from responding to cybersecurity incidents; refrain from cyber-enabled theft of intellectual property; take accountability for cyberthreats emanating from their soil; and do what they can to assist other countries that have been victimized in cyberattacks.

"I guarantee you if those five principles were genuinely and fully adopted and implemented by countries, we would be living in a far safer and far more confident cyberworld," Kerry said.

The report, which took more than a year to compile, was the product of a 20-nation working group founded in 2004 titled the "Governmental Group of Experts," or GGE. It's an unwieldy assemblage, and includes nations that stand in varying degrees of compliance with the principles of its non-binding documents.

China, for instance, has reportedly charged 197 people for spreading "online rumors" in recent years, and engaged in cyberespionage against the U.S. for both commercial and political purposes. Spying conducted by the U.S. on citizens around the world, meanwhile, may violate what the documents call "the right to privacy in the digital age" and "full respect for human rights."

In addition to China, members of the working group included Belarus, Colombia, Egypt, Estonia, France, Germany, Ghana, Israel, Japan, Kenya, Malaysia, Mexico, Pakistan, South Korea, Russia, Spain, the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland. Brazil sat as chair.

Though the report was finished in July, it was not made public until late August. Russia's ambassador to the UK was quick to issue praise, saying that any agreement was valuable as "information and communication technologies" were "being increasingly used for unlawful and hostile purposes" that were "inconsistent with the basic principles of international law." He also voiced support for the creation of actionable treaties, adding, "Russia would prefer to launch a discussion on a legally binding international convention … though we understand that our partners are not ready for this yet."

He went on to liken cyberwarfare to the Cold War, stating, "As in the nuclear weapons story, some still hope to maintain a permanent edge over others."

Creating a multilateral regime to govern cyber policy is an old refrain for Russia. The country and its economic allies — Brazil, India, China, and South Africa — called on the UN to develop a "universal regulatory instrument" for combating cybercrime at their summit this year. China and Russia have been particularly enthusiastic about the prospect of creating multilateral bodies over the years. The U.S. has avoided binding documents and sought to impose multistakeholder governance where applicable, involving participation from the private sector rather than restricting it to state actors.

The GGE report was written after two meetings in 2014 and two more in 2015 at the UN's headquarters in New York. It was predicated on previous reports the group published in 2010 and 2013. The largest breakthrough for the group made may have been in 2013, when it finally determined that international laws on sovereignty should apply to the online space.


http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/un-group-calls-for-more-internet-rules/article/2571169


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"For the children..."


3563  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Google Is the New Evil Empire on: September 29, 2015, 08:04:52 PM
I find this strange when searching on Google.

As you can see I am not searching for anything malicious so why do I get this message?

For sure it must be a keyword that is flagged, but who makes these assumptions that makes me look suspicious?



Do you have an anti malware installed? Windows or OSX? Browser?. Shut down your machine. Reboot. Use www.startpage.com and do the same exact search and compare the results.
3564  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Google Is the New Evil Empire on: September 29, 2015, 08:01:56 PM
Please don't get me wrong, your position is the correct one, the wise one and it's the way it should be. But it's like saying we should make people care about climate change. They care a little, like when Snowden put his life on the line for and thought he was saving the world. Fifteen minutes later everybody was watching something else or booking a trip to the other side of the world. Nobody cares, life's too short and privacy doesn't matter because most people doesn't matter, not in terms of human values, but in terms of what they do and produce.

A dentist or a plumber, do they really have some amazing inherent information value besides what products can you sell them? They don't and so they don't matter, and they don't care.


If a dentist kills a lion the whole world cares. Instantly. Then forget about it. Instantly. Until the next crisis. How come snowden is not the lion? You are talking about Global Warming. You seem to know about adobe products and designing. For one straight week seek what you've learn to be the signs of propaganda. If you see none then good for you. If you see some but you believe this is propaganda for a good cause, then you are a product. The mass is fed with numbing, stupid, useless stories via facebook or a twitter feed. People with an independent mind can sort it out. This is why Counter-current swimming is hard. But when you give up, you become a product.


3565  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Google Is the New Evil Empire on: September 29, 2015, 07:32:18 PM
I don't know really, please help me. I don't think you lose your ownership of course, they were created by you, but they acquire the rights to do whatever with it really. They don't or do just what people tolerate and it ask you first, like using it in ads.






Can Pepsi call facebook and negotiate the licence of the image you took, for their next worldwide advertising campaign? If you do not know the details, then you are a product.

Nothing personal and I respect your opinion.


3566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: “God bless Planned Parenthood” – PP Uses Abortions to Sell Baby Parts on: September 29, 2015, 07:24:23 PM



Fetus Video Referenced by Carly Fiorina Released in Full


The video that Carly Fiorina graphically described at the last Republican presidential debate, depicting a moving fetus on a table following an apparent abortion, was released online in its entirety Tuesday morning, according to Gregg Cunningham, the founder of the Center for Bioethical Reform, who collected the footage.

Cunningham, an anti-abortion activist, declined to identify the date, location or authors of the video in an interview with TIME Monday night, saying his group makes agreements of confidentiality in an effort to acquire images of abortions. He also made no claim that the images shown in the video had anything to do with Planned Parenthood, the organization that Fiorina and others have targeted for federal defunding. “I am neither confirming or denying the affiliation of the clinic who did this abortion,” Cunningham said.

During the debate on Sept. 16, Fiorina denounced the images on videos that had been produced by a separate group, the Center for Medical Progress (CMP). “As regards [to] Planned Parenthood, anyone who has watched this videotape, I dare Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama to watch these tapes,” she said. “Watch a fully formed fetus on the table, it’s heart beating, it’s legs kicking while someone says we have to keep it alive to harvest its brain.”

No video released by the Center for Medical Progress showed the image Fiorina described, but one of the CMP videos does include a brief edited clip from the video Cunningham released on Tuesday, showing a fetus on a stainless steel background with its leg moving.

David Daleiden, who created the Center for Medical Progress videos, edited in the Cunningham footage to illustrate a story that he had been told on camera of a medical technician witnessing an abortion that resulted in an extracted fetus with moving legs and beating heart.

The full source video, which is extremely graphic, lasts about 13 minutes, and shows a fetus being extracted from the mother, placed in a metal bowl, prodded with medical instruments and handled by someone in the room. At times the fetus appears to move, and at other times it appears to have a pulse. There are no images on the full video of any attempt to harvest the brain of the fetus, and there is no sound. Cunningham said the jump cuts in the video are the result of the camera being turned off and on.





http://time.com/4053578/abortion-carly-fiorina-planned-parenthood/?xid=tcoshare


3567  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bought a Drone! My border agency is helding it! on: September 29, 2015, 07:17:12 PM
I recently bought a drone at gearbest. This drone came eqquiped with 2mb pixel cam.
Today, I found out that my Border import control agency is helding it.
Why the hell would they do that if I'm in Europe and it came from the Netherlands??



Next time come over on a boat via Syria and you'll be able to keep your drone... No questions asked.


3568  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Google Is the New Evil Empire on: September 29, 2015, 07:14:58 PM
It doesn't matter what I believe. I believe some product prices are ridiculous and I'm know I'm overpaying but in many cases I need them, so I'm in like everyone else. I use Adobe products, if tomorrow Adobe has all its products in the cloud and owns everything (I doubt it because this is copyright protected stuff) I would have to jump on board. Or I can use the Linux alternative that no company or colleague uses and save it in another format...right.

You want it to be one way but it's the other way.

Yes, It's a quote from "The Wire" haha.


When you upload you photos to facebook do you lose their ownership?


3569  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Breaking News! European Refugee Crisis Resolved! on: September 29, 2015, 07:10:12 PM






3570  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Google Is the New Evil Empire on: September 29, 2015, 06:31:18 PM
Hey, it's just my opinion and I think it's perfectly valid. I actually love the technology and it is revolutionary, it may be a paradigm shift like the press.

And I would prefer to own my online activity but then you would have to actually pay for Facebook and Google services for example like you do with Adobe, Netflix, Microsoft or the like. In my case and many others like me, we just don't really care about our "privacy" because it doesn't exist unless you live under a cave building bombs.

What I mean is, if people have actual evidence of wrong doings by these companies then it would be much easier to convince the mainstream to adopt more privacy alternatives. To 99% of the population it means nothing, doesn't affect their living in any way. I've never had any problems with my credit cards or bank accounts (I live in a third world country where banks actually take off with your savings, I've seen an economical crisis first hand), but they never robbed me and if even they did, I'm still covered by policies and insurances. People are actually afraid of Bitcoin, the "hackers" and money laundering and drug industry people that accept it, they are the ones in the shadows. That what needs to change for Bitcoin to succeed, not the other way around.

 Governments and companies ARE people. Do you really think anyone would buy a car or a house with Bitcoin when that is the wild wild west and banks and credit cards are available?


Do you believe if you do not pay for a product, you are the product?


3571  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: September 29, 2015, 06:27:56 PM
Yes, I think she is trustworthy.





3572  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Lives Matter Protest on: September 29, 2015, 05:52:12 PM
Im not sure if all of what you claim is true, in terms of the runners getting arrested for contact...but if it is thats certainly ridiculous.

Why set up your political protest at the finish line of a marathon?
Wouldnt it be better to set it up outside the GOP or Dem debate.
Outside a Mondaynight football game or on the lawn of the UN.

Hell (no pun intended) maybe they should have set a protest up at the airport where the Pope recently landed in the US for the first time.

These are just a few ideas off the top of my head, all of which IMHO would have been better than setting up their protest at the water and orange wedge stand of a marathon.

I have read several articles stating that runners will be arrested if they interfere with the protest.  The problem is none of this should even be allowed.  I have friends and family running in that marathon and I should be able to watch them finish without having to worry about them being hurt during the running.  


edit-also just noting that they do plan on going about a mile or so from the end of the finish line, preventing people from actually finishing the race.  Completely sick.

If we let black lives matter attack international runners and have them, the runners, arrested, this could be a very good thing to accelerate their demise. Who would be left standing to fight for blm? Play their games and create total chaos. Then start a class action lawsuit against the organizers for a total lack of protections and security. Use the tools they use all the time against them.



While I agree their demise would be great, It is really frustrating for me, I literally can't do anything.  I have family who are flying here to run in the race and now they might not even be able to finish.  This is beyond irritating for me.  If I try to stop the protest, I am labeled a racist and probably thrown in jail.  They break the law and are completely covered by law enforcement.  Basically, if you are going to break the law, make sure you do it in an organized fashion, with lots of people and you are completely safe!


You are not powerless. Get in touch with lawyers FIRST, before they start running. As soon as they are stopped from doing anything or attacked, push the speed dial. Pro bono publico.

The American way. Have your frustration turn into cold hard cash.

3573  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why Google Is the New Evil Empire on: September 29, 2015, 05:47:52 PM
Look guys, they just want to sell you stuff, they are not after your freedom, many of you sound like lunatics honestly. It's all about the money, aren't we all chasing the same pipedream afterall?

Yeah...
By the way, can you share with us all your google research you've made in the past 6 months? Don't tell us you are using duckduckgo, that would be lame...
Also, when I clicked on your profile it says your email was hidden... We are not trying to sell you stuff... You don't need to hide from us.

Aren't we all for total openness on the internet and not care about what people know about us, what we buy, from clothing to a specific prescription?

What's your real email address? Do you have a facebook account? I need to link your bitcointalk.org profile to your google research, to your email address to your facebook to the prescription you are taking, you and your family...

Nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide...

 Cool



The point is there is no evidence Google, Facebook, Apple or Microsoft want to harm us in any way, they just want to sell us stuff. I don't share my email or my facebook account and that's my right, but I know Facebook actually owns my photos and everything I write or upload to Google Drive or Gmail is kinda out there somehow. But the minute they have a leak of information, like leaked emails or personal photos (not from a hack but because they sold it) they will go down instantly trust me. They respect our personal data more than you think.

Now if you want to discuss that a government might pressure these companies for personal information, that's another story. I still don't understand off-the-grid guys in this day and age. I mean it's a miracle that the internet hasn't been regulated or censored yet (at least in most parts of the world). It shouldn't even exist as it is if you ask me considering how things are run in this world.

I believe you are missing the point why bitointalk.org was created by who you know...


3574  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Lives Matter Protest on: September 29, 2015, 05:44:47 PM
Im not sure if all of what you claim is true, in terms of the runners getting arrested for contact...but if it is thats certainly ridiculous.

Why set up your political protest at the finish line of a marathon?
Wouldnt it be better to set it up outside the GOP or Dem debate.
Outside a Mondaynight football game or on the lawn of the UN.

Hell (no pun intended) maybe they should have set a protest up at the airport where the Pope recently landed in the US for the first time.

These are just a few ideas off the top of my head, all of which IMHO would have been better than setting up their protest at the water and orange wedge stand of a marathon.

I have read several articles stating that runners will be arrested if they interfere with the protest.  The problem is none of this should even be allowed.  I have friends and family running in that marathon and I should be able to watch them finish without having to worry about them being hurt during the running.  


edit-also just noting that they do plan on going about a mile or so from the end of the finish line, preventing people from actually finishing the race.  Completely sick.

If we let black lives matter attack international runners and have them, the runners, arrested, this could be a very good thing to accelerate their demise. Who would be left standing to fight for blm? Play their games and create total chaos. Then start a class action lawsuit against the organizers for a total lack of protections and security. Use the tools they use all the time against them.

3575  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will you support systemic extermination of those behind the fukushima cover up? on: September 29, 2015, 05:39:48 PM
The first person to be punished is the one who came up with the idea to build a nuclear power plant in a earthquake prone country.


So it is a better idea to risk mega oil tankers from saudi arabia to cross oceans all the way to japan?




a zillion time better! (the bio accumulation/disintegration) is faster even if it's looks dirtier from the outside (even a full scale 10+ degree F is easier to solve). it's a risk assessment.

I believe the oil guys are quite unhappy when they lose only a drop, they are market based...

nuke industry is un-insurable. for giga tankers it's possible to calculate premiums...


Oil is a natural resource that is easy to recycle and has a zillion times less impact than nuclear energy. We all should welcome any future Deepwater Horizon oil spill like event a zillion times over because we can calculate premiums.

Also, we should all love the saudi's oil because we can calculate the ratio human rights/make me feel good to hate nuclear energy and conclude that some humans, especially saudi women, are not worth fighting for...


 Roll Eyes


3576  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: September 29, 2015, 05:29:42 PM



Pakistan: Entire Family Murdered In Latest “Honor Killing”…


Pakistani police Wednesday were looking for four men believed to have killed a couple and their four children as retribution for a perceived “honor crime.”

Police officer Mohammed Aslam said the killings happened Tuesday in the town of Athara Hazari in central Pakistan.

Aslam said the men are believed to have hacked the family to death with axes and knives. One daughter, identified by police as Aisha, survived and relayed what happened to authorities. She and the other bodies were found after a man delivering milk to the house noticed that no one was coming to the door, Aslam said.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/10/pakistani-honor-killing_n_6300908.html?ncid=tweetlnkushpmg00000017






Muslim parents face court in Germany after murdering daughter for shoplifting condoms to have sex with forbidden boyfriend




Killed ... 19-year-old Lareeb Khan was strangled to death by her father




A MUSLIM father has admitted to strangling his 19-year-old daughter to death after she was caught shoplifting condoms to use with a man she had been forbidden from dating.


Asadullah Khan, 51, used his bare hands to strangle his daughter Lareeb because she had brought “dishonour” to the family, the court in Germany heard.

His wife Shazia Khan, 41, is also on trial for their daughter’s murder as she did not attempt to stop him.

The couple, originally from Pakistan, then dressed their daughter in her dental assistant work attire and used a wheelchair to transport her to their car. They used the car to relocate her body from their high-rise apartment in the city of Darmstadt to a forest, where they disposed of it by rolling her down the hill.

Mr Khan said the family’s honour had been jeopardised after Lareeb had started dating a man despite attempts by her family to stop it.

The situation then escalated to a fatal level when Lareeb was caught attempting to steal condoms from a store.

Mrs Khan told the court that she did not stop her husband as she feared him.

But the couple’s youngest daughter 14-year-old Nida said in court that Mrs Khan “was not suppressed” by her husband and “could do what she wanted”. She also said she wants nothing more to do with her parents.

Lareeb’s boyfriend Raheel said they had planned to get married but her parents threatened him, Picture (Bild) Newspaper reported.

He added that Lareeb had told him that her mother, Mrs Khan, had repeatedly abused her with a stick and pressed her hand on a hot stove.

Mr Khan had also tried to strangle Lareeb on a previous occasion.


http://www.news.com.au/world/europe/muslim-parents-face-court-in-germany-after-murdering-daughter-for-shoplifting-condoms-to-have-sex-with-forbidden-boyfriend/story-fnh81p7g-1227548916085


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Germans should stop being so selfish and open up to other traditions and cultures, in their own country...

 Roll Eyes

3577  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will you support systemic extermination of those behind the fukushima cover up? on: September 29, 2015, 05:22:00 PM
The first person to be punished is the one who came up with the idea to build a nuclear power plant in a earthquake prone country.


So it is a better idea to risk mega oil tankers from saudi arabia to cross oceans all the way to japan?


3578  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Black Lives Matter Protest on: September 29, 2015, 05:19:54 PM
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/local/2015/09/28/tc-marathon-organizers-respond-to-planned-protests/73001336/

So there is a marathon next week and they are planning a protest near the finish line.  Does anyone else think this is a complete outrage?

People who have been training for a long time for this event are now in danger because they are having a protest while the police do absolutely nothing.  They are allowing them to protest and stop/harass the runners, and on top of it all, if the marathon runners come into contact with the protestors, the marathon runners will be arrested!!

How is this even allowed and how are they not able to arrest the protestors???


They have friends who agree with them.







3579  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will you support systemic extermination of those behind the fukushima cover up? on: September 29, 2015, 04:55:10 PM


Fukushima was minding its own business when Mother Nature, the same one responsible for killing 99.9% of all living things and some rocks, decided to attack this peaceful, carbon free nuclear facility with a massive tsunami. Mother Nature should be the one to be exterminated...

 Cool

3580  Other / Politics & Society / Re: GAY MEN WANT KIM DAVIS BACK IN JAIL on: September 29, 2015, 04:46:30 PM
"The US government long ago was subverted by the Illuminati Jewish banking cartel which is using it to impose a Communist tyranny based on their Cabalist  (Satanist) dogma. As a result, in the US, dissatisfaction with the federal government is at an all-time high."
This has too many big words.


Born Again Muslim Illuminati Jewish Banking Mexican Cartel which is using it to impose a Communist tyranny based on their Cabalistic (Satanist) dogma supported by the Evangelical Mega Churches, built by Pope Francis, thanks to the Amish Carpenter Union's help, with the oil money from isis. Bitcoin 666


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