We had another big player last night. Not long after the site hit 80k profit for the first time Dzeros showed up and turned a 376 CLAM deposit into a 3125 CLAM withdrawal and multiple tips for the spectators:  He was able to trade his winnings for BTC without dropping the price by using poloniex as a kind of escrow: (719789) <dreama> You ready to sell dzeros? (967466) <Dzeros> why, so you suckers can go make a profit off the rebound  (719789) <dreama> Put up a sell wall, I'll buy into it (967466) <Dzeros> If anyone wants to buy clams now, I AM YOUR MAN... 0.0056BTC FLAT RATE per clam (967466) <Dzeros> ok will do dreama (719789) <dreama> Stick it up on poloniex (967466) <Dzeros> gimme a moment to cashout (719789) <dreama> I will buy straight away I'm sure they could have found a 0-fee way of achieving the same result off the market, but whatever... Here's an updated recent site profit chart:  |
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So if I'm understanding this correct, they didn't transfer a Prime controller + it's coins, they just pulled 125k xpy out of some secret stash and gave it to Cryptsy with a new PC address?
No, that's mostly wrong. I think the confusion is that I was using "they" to refer to Cryptsy not the people Cryptsy bought the PC key from. Whoever sold Cryptsy the PC sold them just the key required to make it work. Cryptsy funded it themselves to get the 125k XPY required, possibly using customer funds. |
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Well we have no way to implement the option of ostrich penis.... Which was the wining vote by a landslide
While an overwhelming majority (99% of voters) did indeed ask you to Ostrich Penis, another overwhelming majority (98% of voters) were in favour of "Other". That seems to me like a clear mandate to do whatever the fuck you want to so long as it isn't any of the other 5 options. (200% of) the people have spoken.  |
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Another increase in site profits:  Mostly it came from a new player, georgette:  And most of her losses came from these two identical very ambitious Martingale streaks:  |
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www.bitaces.me is running fine and everything is working so feel free to give it a try! I gave it a try. It seems to be treating pushes as losses:  We both have 2 pair with an ace kicker. So why does that count as a loss? Also, the cards are very hard to read. They all look like aces, except for the rank in a tiny font. |
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Still don't see anything about where the 125k XPY required to run a PC came from. Seems that question was totally ignored by the Cryptsy guys.
I know this isn't what you were asking for, but it came from a bunch of 5k and 10k outputs according to the blockchain. |
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From the discussion about the anonymously posted Prime Controller keys it seems that when transferring a PC from one person to another there is nothing keeping the original owner from using the same key afterwards. Is this correct? Also, is it possible for the first owner to access the coins in the new address after a transfer? I am specifically wondering if this is the proof that the whole mutiny story and theft of Paycoins/Prime Controllers from Homero is bullshit.
There are 50 prime controller keys. They act like secret passwords which you can say to get 20 times better staking than the muggles. They are separate from Paycoin addresses. The secret password works to get you 20 times your fair reward whenever you stake an output worth 125k or more. So yes to your first question - when I let you know the password there's nothing to stop me from continuing to use it as well. And no to your second question - you and I will be using the same password, but different wallets. It's not clear to me what a "Prime Controller" is. Is it just a password? Or is it the password plus the wallet containing 125k coins? If it's the latter then it can be stolen. As soon as you "steal" it, you move the 125k coins to a new address that only you control. You didn't steal the password (in that I still have it and can still use it - you only stole it in the Hollywood "copying files is theft" sense of the word) but you did steal the coins. |
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From a quick look at one of our blocks. Cryptsy's KEY ID is 16
Note that the key numbers count from 1 for each of the 4 groups of PC keys. So 10:1, 20:1, 100:1 and 350:1 are 4 different keys. There are 35 350%, 10 100%, 2 20% and 3 10% keys, so the "ID 16" must be in the 350% group, but in general you'll need to give both numbers to identify a key. Don't you realize we don't care? For all we know you are going to accumulate coins in your prime controller and everybody will see that good guy craptsy isn't dumping these coins. Then comes a time when you will say hurr durr we got hacked coins got dumped.
3) How many hyperstaking wallets are there, now? It seems like this is something that might could be answered with blockchain analysis if I cared enough. I think those leaked private keys will transform any wallet with a certain number of coins into a hyperstaker. That's kind of a big deal. This effectively chases out any small owners of XPY. If you don't have enough to hyperstake, and everyone else is hyperstaking, the value in their wallets will remain fairly constant, but yours will drift towards zero.
That's the question I was trying to help answer. For the record, the 13 leaked PC keys were all 10 of the 100% keys, both of the 20% keys, and the first of the 10% keys. |
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That's funny. Is it an oversight that they're removing the 10%, 20% and 350% PCs but leaving the 100% ones? Hard to tell, right? |
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I'm not sure it's worth the effort to go back and try to work out "what would have happened" - because you'll never get it right. My investment would have diluted others' investments, meaning they earned less, and so would have had less to gamble with, etc.
I've set up a new account with a 100x multiplier and will just leave it alone. I won't repeat the "/offsite max" at all, I'll just let it ride.
Remind me in a few weeks to post the results if I didn't do it already.
I didn't see anyone reminding me, but I just remembered on my own... The stats on the left are the old 1x account, and on the right is the 100x account: Dec 12 2014 0.00% 100.00%
Dec 15 2014 3.64% 103.64%
Dec 22 2014 5.02% 108.85%
Dec 29 2014 2.09% 111.13%
Jan 5 2015 8.16% 120.20%
Jan 12 2015 5.28% 126.55%
Jan 19 2015 3.55% 131.04%
Jan 26 2015 2.10% 133.79%
Feb 2 2015 2.10% 136.60%
Feb 9 2015 1.94% 139.24%
Feb 16 2015 1.93% 141.93%
Feb 23 2015 1.95% 144.70%
Mar 2 2015 1.81% 147.32% Mar 7 2015 0.00% 100.00%
Mar 9 2015 1.77% 149.93% Mar 9 2015 0.64% 100.64%
Mar 16 2015 1.73% 152.53% Mar 16 2015 2.53% 103.18%
Mar 23 2015 1.74% 155.18% Mar 23 2015 4.01% 107.32%
Mar 30 2015 1.67% 157.78% Mar 30 2015 2.06% 109.53%
Mar 31 2015 0.24% 158.15% Mar 31 2015 0.47% 110.04% Note that I haven't changed the /offsite setting for the 100x account at all; I've just let it ride. Its offsite amount is now only 90.97x. That's to be expected - the offsite amount hasn't changed while the onsite amount has grown, and so the total (offsite+onsite) is now only 91 times the onsite amount, where it used to be 100 times. I'll update these stats again. I still didn't change the /offsite amount for the 100x account, and now it's at 82.72x. Dec 12 2014 0.00% 100.00%
Dec 15 2014 3.64% 103.64%
Dec 22 2014 5.02% 108.85%
Dec 29 2014 2.09% 111.13%
Jan 5 2015 8.16% 120.20%
Jan 12 2015 5.28% 126.55%
Jan 19 2015 3.55% 131.04%
Jan 26 2015 2.10% 133.79%
Feb 2 2015 2.10% 136.60%
Feb 9 2015 1.94% 139.24%
Feb 16 2015 1.93% 141.93%
Feb 23 2015 1.95% 144.70%
Mar 2 2015 1.81% 147.32% Mar 7 2015 0.00% 100.00%
Mar 9 2015 1.77% 149.93% Mar 9 2015 0.64% 100.64%
Mar 16 2015 1.73% 152.53% Mar 16 2015 2.53% 103.18%
Mar 23 2015 1.74% 155.18% Mar 23 2015 4.01% 107.32%
Mar 30 2015 1.67% 157.78% Mar 30 2015 2.06% 109.53%
Apr 6 2015 1.65% 160.38% Apr 6 2015 2.51% 112.27%
Apr 13 2015 1.63% 162.99% Apr 13 2015 2.48% 115.05%
Apr 20 2015 1.58% 165.57% Apr 20 2015 1.42% 116.69% <-- the only time the 1x account did better than the 100x account so far
Apr 27 2015 1.64% 168.28% Apr 27 2015 3.43% 120.69%
Apr 27 2015 0.05% 168.36% Apr 27 2015 0.37% 121.14% |
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Well, yes, that's what a bootstrap.dat file *is*. You just write all the blocks in the main chain into a file one after the other.
I added a command 'dumpbootstrap' to clamd that creates the bootstrap.dat file rather than writing a separate Python script to do it.
You can probably just merge the commit into your coin.
Hmm.. I thought that python script stripped out all the orphan blocks.. and "to create a no-fork best chain version" as it states. If I write out all the blocks into one file, I see the client trying to work through all the orphan blocks when importing.. (tail -f debug.log to see the messages). I'll look at dumpbootstrap, thank you. Note that I said "in the main chain". Orphan blocks are by definition not in the main chain. See https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/commit/3bb9c0ed for the initial commit. At its core it just does this - finds each block in order, reads it from disk, writes it to the bootstrap file: + for (int nHeight = 0; nHeight <= nBlocks; nHeight++)
+ {
+ CBlockIndex* pblockindex = FindBlockByHeight(nHeight);
+ block.ReadFromDisk(pblockindex, true);
+ fileout << FLATDATA(Params().MessageStart()) << fileout.GetSerializeSize(block) << block;
+ }
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One last comment before i get back to work
If we were to stop staking nobody would be able to verify we actually stopped. We could have just moved to a new address with new coins.
It's trivial to examine each block and see which PC key if any was used to stake it. OK, so not trivial, but not hard either: https://github.com/dooglus/paycoin/commit/cd855e95 |
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Also, when I hear the name "Big Vern" It sounds like a guy you would hire to go and kneecap somebody, or buy a dodgy second hand car from.
I kind of assumed that everyone would picture the Viz character:  |
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@Dooglus Has the bootstrap.dat for clams been linearized? Similar to doing something like this (so no orphans or forks in bootstrap.dat) - https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib/linearizeTrying to figure out how to do that for PoS coins like yours.. do you happen to have an example linearize-data.py in that regards? Thanks for any help and help you've provided in the past! Well, yes, that's what a bootstrap.dat file *is*. You just write all the blocks in the main chain into a file one after the other. I added a command 'dumpbootstrap' to clamd that creates the bootstrap.dat file rather than writing a separate Python script to do it. You can probably just merge the commit into your coin. |
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Thanks for that scabby chart! I was on the site during his run and it was really impressive until it blew up. Thanks also for posting the picture of the cam girl. In chat, everyone was accusing her of not knowing how to spell, I think scabby even changed his name to scabby-winnere but looking closely now I see the misspelling with the extra e is really an @ and the chat was being a bit unfair to the cam girl. It seems the '@' was part of the requested text. Also, it seems that each time anyone tips her the site rolls dice to see what they get for their tip. How fitting!  |
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I meant in comparison to cryyptc; it's all relative.
Fair enough and agreed. I knew you were far above Bitcoin's level. I had just never heard anyone describe him as you did. I've never heard of the guy. I scanned through a few of his recent hashtalk posts, saw that he can string a {{{sentence}}} %% together without ASCII art, and concluded it couldn't be our old friend Big Baller. |
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One last comment before i get back to work
If we were to stop staking nobody would be able to verify we actually stopped. We could have just moved to a new address with new coins.
It's trivial to examine each block and see which PC key if any was used to stake it. We will already need to do that to see which addresses you're using the PC key to increase your staking rewards with. There's no guarantee that the one address you show that you're gaining increased returns on is the only one you're gaining the unfair advantage on. And your right we cant just give it back. We know the key and without a update it cannot be removed
Similarly it couldn't just have been given to you. Whoever gave it to you can still use it. |
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I really, really hope you were joking about Bitcoin-Bar. He is an uneducated, illiterate douche-bag with absolutely no valid points and a complete lack of logic. If you weren't joking then I can only assume that you are just as pathetic as he is.
I meant in comparison to cryyptc; it's all relative. |
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Ah, thank you. I thought I've seen this garbage before. How isn't he perma-banned yet?
Many of his accounts have been, but he just makes more. It's like playing whack-a-mole. |
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