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Be patient, we at Envion are working so hard to secure our own future first, a man has got to eat right? we have devd Envion and we deserve this money, if you want your money back, we don't care, because we have other ICOs, invest on them, because we still need money.
This is your fault, we needed more money, you didn't give us more money, now we have to sell your tokens to others.
There is a great project you should invest ASAP a.k.a ACY, invest and at least get your tokens, take Envion's code and put it next to activity token.
You have got scammed, end of story.
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I've seen a few things saying that https://torguard.net are lightning network capable. Apparently they were involved in the equivalent of bitcoins 'pizza' purchase. https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/ This link contains a really trippy picture, which may or may not be the LN peeps (I think it is as i see that TORGuard is on there). Hope that helps. I already know about lnmainnet, I need to know the steps in order to become a node, use a channel. though you could come back to me when you have 200 posts and 150 activity, you must have 50 more posts than activity. I could move this thread to beginners & help with at least 200 links to crypto related services, hopefully it could become a really helpful topic for newbies, with the support of theymos, I could make this work. I would give this a week, if I have received sMerits by then, I will make it official, if not, then it means that my help is not needed. |
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This is such a good question. I'd love for the community to add their unbiased opinions. I see so much resistance to all premines but how else are the devs supposed to be rewarded for their hard work? In the early days of crypto you didn't need to premine because no one knew how big it'd be... but now people pile in so quickly the dev can't get rewarded.
Unbiased opinion, reward the *dev with a paid prostitute for a night, plus a few grands, don't be like me with a premine of 20.6 Million out of 21 Million total supply. what is the hard work of a dev? you know how to code, you don't get to become a Billionaire just for coding. |
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OK, let me beg you all to stop. I don't want you to explain the lightning network, I want to open a channel, provide me with links to any site where I can use lightning network. I only need the links, when I ask for 20 hosting providers accepting Bitcoin, I don't want you to tell me what is hosting.
If I ask where can I buy Bitcoin, don't tell me to find an exchange and buy, give me links to the major exchanges. I want you to earn my attention, because you would have to be a high quality poster to get merits after completing the tasks.
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At first this idea of mine made sense, not anymore. I'm not supposed to generate more workload, more posts, I should merit the posts of members as I read them. however if you have the step by step tutorial on LN, PM me and receive 17 instant merits. but this task and reward thing is over. why would I merit people for helping me? why should you get easy merits by providing me with information? I agree with the services with Bitcoin logo etc, but giving me information on LN is something I should find on my own. but I will find the user rajurathod18's posts worth meriting and will do my best to make it fair for him/her. since it was my own stupidity to promise 17 instant merits for this task. I will try my best to give him something deserving. I will post a quote of PM he sent me with the step by step tutorial on LN below the task.
Hello, I am one of the most reputable merit sources (I'm lying, with something public as merit stats, there was no reason for theymos not to give me hundreds of sMerits, any abuse from my part could have resulted in Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored, I would put it on theymos being busy and overwhelmed by the work and say that he didn't think about this too much).Edit April/10/2018: I didn't know at that time that when you delete your post, it shows Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored. I assumed it was the moderators deleting those posts along with their merits. We need a sticky in meta for merit, ranking up is now up to 80 people, they need one place to go to check for the members in need of merits to rank up. How many stickies do we have containing all the rules and information about everything? and how many threads do we have asking the questions with their answers already in the stickies? either make a child board in meta for merits or a sticky.
I would like to ask any member of this forum in need of merits to rank up, have 30 posts more than your activity points, provide me with information, answer a few questions like how many walkers have you killed, or how many people have you killed and why? make sure to be connected with your real IP, so that theymos could call the police. lol.How could I open a lightning channel? if you provide the information needed to open a channel, you will receive 15 merits just for that (I don't have more than 15 right now) I will then beg theymos for sMerits to send to you after viewing your posts (if they are merit worthy).
I could give you a task every week, anybody could reserve a spot, if you have 30 more posts than your activity points and need merits, reserve a spot by posting, then update your post with the information. everything about merits is public, I want to help @theymos, I would only help people if they know some basics of crypto. how many members I could help would depend on how many sMerits you would give me.
Disclaimer: I haven't yet merited anybody seriously as a merit source, because the initial source merit you gave me was considered as an insult, really it felt like an insult.
Task: How to open a LN channel? step by step guide to become a node, and use the lightning network.
Reward: 15 instant merits. with the chance of receiving more, depends on administration.
Task: Post 50 links to sites and services with Bitcoin logo a.k.a any service accepting Bitcoin. not the ones already posted here.Reward: 5 instant merits. and no chance of receiving more, I only have 11. I will create another task for the remaining 6 later.
Task: Find 20 hosting services where you could pay with Bitcoin, post 20 links.Reward: Receive 5 instant merits.Most of the provided services had Bitcoin logo.
Task: Find at least 500 empty blocks in Bitcoin's blockchain after block #500,000 and post the block number. E.g: block #459000 #459320 #462000. hint: the first empty block after block #500,000 is block #500,044 what I want is just like this: #500,044 #500,140 etc.Reward: 4 instant merits. goes to the first person posting with the correct formatting.#500,044 #500,140 #500,342 #500,374 #500,394 #500,929 #501,124 #501,252 #501,304 #501,588 #501,676 #501,726 #501,728 #501,853 #501,901 #501,915 #501,990 #502,051 #502,126
#502,197 #502,803 #503,016 #503,135 #503,136 #503,198 #503,259 #503,493 #503,606 #503,642 #503,705 #503,996 #504,027 #504,069 #504,079 #504,093 #504,229 #504,342 #504,452 #504,536 #504,655 #504,660 #504,826 #504,830 #505,040 #505,058 #505,126 #505,210 #505,406 #505,407 #505,432 #505,946 #506,123 #506,174 #506,326 #506,352 #506,370 #506,548
#506,726 #506,736 #506,840 #507,021 #507,202 #507,218 #507,250 #507,252 #507,308 #507,586 #507,780 #507,801 #507,838 #507,908 #508,175 #508,209 #508,553 #508,630 #508,667 #508,760 #508,766 #509,049 #509,278 #509,440 #509,623 #509,827 #510,098 #510,026 #510,240 #510,312 #510,441 #510,604 #510,853 #511,043 #511,053 #511,243 #511,255 #511,512 #511,595 #511,824 #512,048
From #500,000 to last block (#512,278), there are only 95 empty blocks
edit: there are 98 empty blocks
Task: Find empty blocks from block number #20,000 and #500,000. I want them sent to me via PM. I will put them on pastebin and will update my OP with a reference link.
Reward: 7 instant merits.Note that, you'd need to reserve a spot and then complete this task, I don't want more than 1 member to do this, it would be a waste of your time since I wont merit 2 members for doing the same job. after completing this task, and sending the PM to me, feel free to update your post with the block numbers, for me to send 7 merits for it. if you don't know how to post something constructive, this is the next best thing to earn merits, even if you go posting garbage after getting merits from me, that's not my problem. you should be treated like any other member posting garbage. what is important for me is that I have given you merits for doing something and actually for doing it. if this data is already available somewhere, I'd appreciate it if you could tell me so that I could find something else to torture people with.
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Yes, I have seen some of the reputable beggars doing this, I have posted on merit's thread about it with no response from theymos. I sent a merit to somebody, he edited his post after a few hours. Here are my PMs with him: Why did you edit your post? the one which I gave you 1 merit for. here now it looks like that I have given you a merit for a simple campaign application, I will not merit any of your posts from now on because I merited that post for it's content and the confident it was inspiring. Oh, I edited it because yahoo had asked me to. They wanted a cleaner application to look out, had me edit it and then re-apply by quoting it in my new reply. I appreciate the merit, because I was trying to make an interesting proposal to yahoo and it shows that it at least caught your attention. I wasn't trying to offend, was simply following instructions from the OP; can change it back if that would make you happy.  I edited it back to say basically the same thing, with a strike-through of the text that is no-longer relevant. Didn't mean to make your merit look foolish, and I hope this makes things better for ya.
It is ok if you do not want to merit me any longer, but I did not mean any harm.
I tortured him just for one merit of my own and not of my source merit. |
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This is the result of new merit system. I think merit system should be withdrawn and instead of merit adding system I think demerit system may be introduced which will be given to bad posts. The merit system might be left as it was.
Thank you
No need to withdraw merit system for this. Just punishing that member will be sufficient. Suppose a country passed a law to avoid tax evasions. Some person tries to cheat and make advantage of that law. Will the country take back its law or punish that person ? Merit is not like tax, forum is not earning anything from merits, imagine a country asking manufacturers to produce high quality products, no need to pay any tax, just high quality products. not stopping the low quality production. what could happen to that country? Their markets could become saturated with so many low quality products, making it hard for people to find the good products. But if you charge tax on everybody, you could spend the tax to find any manufacturer producing low quality products and stop them from saturating the market. Most reputable merit source, sincerely yours. thank you,. |
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Lets see what the usual meta contributors think about this one, thank you don DarkStar_leone for spending time on this, but merit system doesn't work, Bitcoin paying campaigns were always accepting people with average post quality.
Merit system would work if all the bounty beggars with low post quality stop posting low quality, they couldn't, because an illiterate street beggar doesn't know how to not be an illiterate street beggar. if ranking up from a member into a full member is impossible for a beggar, they could join a bounty with 2 member accounts. if becoming a member is impossible for the same beggar, they could join a bounty with 4 jr accounts.
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Maybe if you stop refusing to trust people, they could surprise you. lack of a strong leadership, leads to the situation we're in currently. you refuse to believe that people are taking advantage over you, giving people the benefit of the doubt, being compassionate about them is a sign of weakness.
Stop the garbage information from spreading where you have the power, stop people from violating the rules, you are trying to filter out the quality, allowing the garbage to be produced. for this forum, you are telling people to produce content worth reading and are rewarding them for it, you are not stopping the low quality content.
All you could put a name on a filter of information was Andreas, what is his forum name? this is one of the major platforms for Bitcoin, your major concerns are the people with nothing valuable to offer, you should focus on bringing people like Andreas here.
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LN isn't really made for big payments anyway.
For micropayments it will probably work better. But for anything above, say, $200 it already might become unusable. And who is going to use bitcoin to pay $200 when they need to pay $70 on-chain fee? You don't need to pay $70 for $200 transfer, you are not forced to use Bitcoin if you are not limited by traditional system, you could use LN like people are using Electrum, normal users would connect to LN hubs. you could have $200 when you pay a hub $200, your money is always there for you to spend from, that hub has to be a centralized hub for you to leave your money with them, even if they close their channel, they would fund another one. Hubs would never block your $200, nobody would trust them if they do. you could even give them another coin, if you don't want to pay a high fee sending your $200 to fund a channel. Bitcoin or other coins are not fiat money to be used for beer, a nation of 80 Million terrorists could use them and pay the high fees if they could send and receive $200 Million without the thieves in the US blocking their funds. |
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If you want to get more a head start, sell your virgin girls to a reputable merit source and get free merits, problem is not getting a head start, a shitposter doesn't know how to write substantially. if you give me a vouch copy, I'll make sure my children rank you to senior member OP, just let me have one of your buyer's daughter for holy purposes of matrimonial intercourse.
Are you a newbie here? then look how we'd welcome street beggars trying to buy accounts to have incum here.
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They said it would be free forever, but now they need money? you have at least 80 Million terrorists (potential users) to show them your ads and earn money, you don't need to collect money in ICO, would it be free after the ICO? if yes, how could you make any profits for your investors? You could earn Millions with a product like telegram, ask for Bitcoin from advertisers. As a *reputable merit source, I could vouch for your ICO, I just need a house and a wife with high salary of at least 10 hero members. *Hunting for prostitutes never made me money. Excellent information, and it is seen that this ICo will give a lot to talk and potecnialemnete many gains to those who can invest in it, there have been cases in which people have achieved many gains by investing in good ICOs, hopefully this good results and profits to...
ICO is over, there is no profit gains, telegram is not a startup to beg for money in the form of an ICO, they could at least show ads on channels. |
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It would be easier if you just ignore that link, you are one member asking for this without thinking about others. (Beyonce for me please theymos, reward me for the distribution of 5-8 source merits with Beyonce, she's my age, I'm single).
If that is too much to ask, just pick a paid (honorable lady) from the streets, the ugliest one, because I'm entitled.
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Please Quote:
----BITCOIN ADRESS ----
14ZTzR4aFZg7narafrWs78YhW5jPNmBGfd
-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Today is 19.02.2018 bitcointalk account CapnBDL (u=212645) belongs to this address
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
IOXkpveJUAgZLY3FYtr0/d69G6QpCds0x+deC0BfGD+BIEl8UFhf5KqqgOig7oBxHPVf9xypCkpdFHX5+XVS4vg=
Thank you!
Quoted and verified with Electrum 3.0.6 by the most reputable merit source. |
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Stop scamming forum beggars, they would come back here shitposting when they lose their high salary here. there are some coins listed on Yobit, you can't find them anywhere else. if I pay Yobit, they'll list my activity tokens, I could then create a pump and dump group like you and invite forum beggars to pump my ACY.
If you want me to vouch for you, as I am a very reputable merit source, pay me $200 and I'll even add a few merits to your posts. or you could just mention my name in another topic, I need to feel important, ever since I came out as a merit source with only 5-8 source merits, people think of me as a random lowlife.
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What if after reading the whitepaper and joining a bounty with a reputable manager, you get nothing? why would a bounty campaign pay you more than what you could get from a signature campaign?
What would you do if their ICO couldn't collect money? you would join another bounty?
Join my bounty for activity token, if I could sell them, I'll pay you $160 per week for just mentioning the name of activity token 3 times per week and sliding the asset identifier 2 times per week. (note that I need to collect enough money for myself first, because I spent 1 facking Waves on issuing the tokens, I should at least get $50,000 just for doing that, cost of development).
(note again, that coding shouldn't cost a coder any thing, if you find a project team are asking for money to write the codes and then hope for adoption for the price to increase, stay away).
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The first reputable member posted here was an alt account with negative trust, full members are posting here because they think they are reputable.
You should have tested your mixer by yourself first, I don't want to see if your mixer works with 0.001BTC, I would like to see how many Bitcoins you have. do you think that you could offer something more than other mixers?
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Think of me as a reputable merit source with 5000 sMerits, now force me to do anything, I don't have to do anything, I just need to be reasonable when I am meriting people, as a merit source, I need to read and merit if I want to help.
Merit sources should have a sticky thread in meta, and they must have a title under their forum names, how could theymos monitor 57 sources? let the community to monitor their actions, nobody would bug a merit source if they want any merit from them, would you bug a DT member to ask for positive trust?
I can see alt accounts with 500 posts, 500 activity and 900 merits, if we know who are all the sources, we could find out if they were meriting their friends and if they were ignoring others.
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Actually, in another thread, a member repeated the concept of a "negative merit," and I had a kind of "ah ha" moment. Here's my earlier post.I was initially against the idea of negative merit, but I thought of a way that it might work. Here it goes: It seems to me that if there were negative merits, the poster should need to feel so strongly about giving the negative merit that it would subtract from his/her regular merit bank. Therefor, if the member gave someone a negative merit, then that person would need to have at least 5 merits because it would remove 5 merits from that members regular merits in order for that member to give the one negative merit to the other member. Under such a system, we would be able to have negative merits, and members would only employ such possible negative merit feature sparingly and after giving some considerable thought to it. Demerit is not possible, I wouldn't give a negative merit to somebody else if I could lose my own merits. reversing them is not easy and would complicate everything, reversing a single merit could result in deranking of other members. We should have a list of merit sources, instead of theymos to be the one checking their sent merits, everybody should have access to their stats, only their stats matters. Some people are deleting their posts with received merits, if I had a list of merit sources, I could check and see if any of them has ever merited a deleted post.
I'm not spammer but i'm newbie and i don't know earn merit point. What a pity when participated in forum late and now is very difficult for newbie. 😂
If you have nothing to contribute as a newbie, how could you contribute as a high ranking member? |
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I wouldn't trust a mixer with 0.02 overall funds.
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