Throw rock into pond. Rock create ripples. Rock gone, but ripples spread.
Live brain in pond of life. Brain create mind ripples. Brain die and is gone, but mind ripples still go on.
This is actually not a terrible analogy, however you made one important error. The "ripples" our brain creates in life do not represent our mind, but our thoughts, expressed through spoken language and written word. Those thoughts we commit to the net will live on long after we're dead. Unlike our minds, which reside wholly in our rotting and dead brains. Live mind in pond of life. Mind creates thought ripples. Brain dies and mind is gone, but thought ripples carry on through those whose lives we have touched. All the mind is, is a complex compilation of thoughts... at least that we know of. When the mind is no longer influenced by the brain, the complexity is influenced by all of nature that it reaches and reacts to. Thus, the complexity is changed. The question isn't about the mind not going on. The question is about what it becomes as it becomes one with the "vibrations" of the whole universe. Just as the ripples in the pond become one with the pond as they dissipate, even so the mind becomes one with the universe as it dissipates. Remember, there is the soul as well. And God directs all things, if only through cause and effect down through the ages. Thus, until we find out for sure what happens to the mind, if it absorbed by nature, or if God directs it in other ways, the only thing that we can be sure of is that it goes on after cessation of brain activity. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Look, my father is a hardcore 9/11 truther. The PHP conference was not too far away from the world trade centre. Everyone in NY said 9/11 happened the way it happened. My dad told me not to take photos of the WTC. I took one on my S5 and texted it to him without hassle. Sure there was some police presence. It was not constant and hey, what do you expect in a city like New York? These conspiracies are bogus.
so why is your father a truther if according to you and your family the towers fell because of terrorist from a muslim country done it with planes.. so is your father a NUT JOB ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) you all know the truth... so why is he a truther ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Nice to see conspiracy theorist see a conspiracy in everything. No your government would never do any harm to its own people would they www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4f9Hs0s1jQNo USA government would never hurt its own people www.youtube.com/watch?v=guSqJAfnuN4NO NEVER ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Now I'm thinking, 911 was planned, engineered and executed by a goat. The U.S. government would never harm anyone. Why not? Because the U.S. government doesn't do anything. The U.S. government is a fiction. All governments except, possibly, the strict kingships are fictions. In America, the U.S. government is strong because the people believe in a fiction. Those who hold power in the U.S. government like it this way. Thus, they try to keep the people believing in the fiction of the U.S. government. It is the people in the U.S. government who pulled some strings among a bunch of fiction believers who did 9/11. They had help from those outside of the government. They were directed, in part, by those outside of the U.S. government. But the point remains, PEOPLE did 9/11 against a whole bunch of other PEOPLE.Some of the people who did 9/11 against others are/were people who hold/held government offices in the fiction called THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. Some of them used their governmental offices to further the 9/11 happening. Some of them knew what they were doing; others didn't know what they were doing. Probably the whole 9/11 plan was perpetrated by some who were outside of the U.S. fiction known as THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT. But there were those within the fiction that made the plan work. Without them, knowingly or unknowingly, willingly or unwillingly, the 9/11 plan would have never worked. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Libertarianism is freedom of the mind as well as the person. An illusion of freedom foisted on the masses by the few is not freedom. If you do not stand up and take responsibility for your life and freedom, somebody else will be responsible for your slavery. A war between two armies of free people may cause the death and destruction of one free people, but it will never cause slavery. Taxes are slavery. Taxes are not taxes if they are free donations. Freedom is freedom if I am free to live my life in any way I want as long as I do not hurt someone or damage his property. Inappropriate breaking of a contract is hurting someone or damaging his property. Military might is set in place through donation, not taxation. If it is through taxation, it involves slavery rather than freedom. Libertarianism in its simplest form involves all this simple thinking. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) EDIT: Private property ownership among people is the evidence that the people are all kings, and therefore all free. Lack of or reduced private property is evidence of a kingship, and of slavery.
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Socialism requires the destruction of all religion, because under socialism the state is the highest authority, not any concept of spirituality or humanity. The question really isn't if you believe in God, but if you believe the state should have the authority of God. Religion and science are not mutually exclusive, unless of course you are a totalitarian socialist. In that case you will say anything to destroy any form of religion because it challenges the universal supremacy of the force of the state, and challenges your own state centered religious dogma and faith based worship of socialism.
This is not progressive... this is taking the same lump of shit and putting it on a different loaf of bread and pretending that some how, by the miracle of socialism, it is not shit any more.
That's correct. I lived in a country in which socialism was the dominant dogma for more than 40 years. The people, under the guide of party has abolished the religion for about 30 years. But yet religion was not dead even the state wanted the substituted of religion with new dogmas: the creation of the new men without the chains of the believing. But with the fall of the regime the religion flourished immediately. Religion is within every man. Even those who don't believe in God believe in something else. Me, for example, believe in the human mind. Does the human mind go on after death? The only evidence that we have for something like this, comes from outside the human mind. Science doesn't say it at all! Obviously, there are greater religions than the human mind. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Good and live philosophy. Seems like the dilemma of Hamlet at the Shakespeare work with the same title: To be or not to be. For sure I choose to be. And for sure i chose that there is not human mind after death. This is scientifically proved. There is not activity in the human mind after the death. Nor in the mind and nor in the body. Everything is gone. End. So, enjoy since your live. Throw rock into pond. Rock create ripples. Rock gone, but ripples spread. Live brain in pond of life. Brain create mind ripples. Brain die and is gone, but mind ripples still go on. Just because science is too stupid to see the mind ripples after the brain dies... ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Gun free zones - as well as gun zones - don't mean anything. You can still shoot into them from more than a mile away with a high powered .50 cal. rifle. The point is, the whole thing is about some killers with guns. They will always get guns, no matter how many laws or gun free zones are made. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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That is a nice optical illusion you have there. Too bad it relies on lines emanating from the center to achieve the illusion of curvature. Last time I checked the sky there are not dozens of straight lines emanating from the horizon to a central vanishing point.
Really! Then why do polarized sunglasses work so well? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I hope you don't mean all people are afraid of death. It just isn't true. I don't really see a good reason why people should be afraid of death at all.
1) If you're religious, then you should feel fine about it. 2) If you're just spiritual but don't follow a religion, you probably believe in the soul, and aren't afraid of death. 3) If you're atheist, you shouldn't believe anything is after death... and I guess maybe can be afraid of dying because you believe that's all there is, but other than that, I don't see a reason to fear death.
No, I don't. As stated in the second part of the post (a example) is that the followers of Buddhism are trying to contemplate death in order to relief themselves of possible fear. I'm saying that some people are religious as a result of being afraid of death before. As a half spiritual half agnostic person I do not see a reason to be afraid of death. I've talked to a lot of people in my surrounding area and they do not like to talk about death at all. "Deatha" sounds like a cute girl's name. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Why would anyone fear death?
Since nobody actually knows what happens when we die, it's the unknown I guess. Actually this is mostly related to major religions. People are afraid of death, do not like to speak/think about it and thus religious have gained many followers. Because of their fear, the idea of being saved makes the calm. I hope you don't mean all people are afraid of death. It just isn't true. I don't really see a good reason why people should be afraid of death at all. 1) If you're religious, then you should feel fine about it. 2) If you're just spiritual but don't follow a religion, you probably believe in the soul, and aren't afraid of death. 3) If you're atheist, you shouldn't believe anything is after death... and I guess maybe can be afraid of dying because you believe that's all there is, but other than that, I don't see a reason to fear death. People who are living without a lot of pain, who are simply living their life, might not have a mental fear of death. But most people have a natural bodily reaction that includes fear of death. Your body doesn't have the same logic that your mind does. Your body has life and some automatic reactions against the happening of death. If there is a sudden impending death closing in, the body may react in such a way that it causes the mind to fear death. If people - like soldiers - were in the situation of impending death all the time, the fear of it would become numbed. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Christians aren't supposed to believe in reincarnation. I don't. My child, I'm afraid you haven't been paying attention to Teacher. Once again: Belief is not a choice. It's a compulsion beyond the realm of choice, based on observation/evidence; in science argument and consensus.
Desirability is not a requisite of the truth. I do not choose what I believe because I perceive it as the more attraction option. I'm compelled to believe what I think is true, whether I like it or not!
The truth does not require your approval. It simply is. I don't know of any religions that states that suicide is a good thing. It's murder (of oneself), and so it's a sin for Christians. Religion is how the power elite controlled the peasants for many generations before the Nation State took over that role. Fear is a prison for your mind. This tragic fear of divine retribution would likely prevent you from committing the self-mercy of suicide even if you were enduring days or week of torture. Not months, though, and certainly not years. Pain is an inexhaustible resource, just like pleasure. Under those circumstances, sooner or later your superstition would break, unable to bear the weight of such suffering. Eventually you'd come to your senses and end it. Deep down you know this to be true. "My child?" Wow, how pretentious can you get? You said you're a "psych major." What are you? Late teens? Early 20's? Bold, bold statements for a student to say... Equally as pretentious as the man in the church referred to as "father" who is not your father? I can't speak on Beliathon's behalf, but it looks to me like a joke, that has been taken very seriously ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Another point for Buddhism, the only religion that has a sense of humour ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It isn't Buddhism that has the sense of humor. It's the Buddhists, 'cause they realize what a joke religion is. That's because they haven't encountered the pure sense that Christianity makes. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is Buddhism that allows a sense of humour, whether or not the followers have a sense of humour or not. So are you saying if a Buddhist encounters Christianity that they would lose their sense of humour? Are you a Buddhist? If you are, the answer to your question is no on this side, 'cause this Christian is LOL at the thing that you posted. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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I don't know why you folks are so upset. It was highway workers getting a piece of trash off the highway. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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In like Flint? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
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Gao Yu should be happy they haven't turned her into Yu Goo by now. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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I want a government where anybody can do anything as long as it doesn't harm anyone else or damage his property. This would include formal threats. The only working government we would have would be judges. They would not really be judges, but, rather, magistrates that would oversee the judging of claims of wrongdoing one person against another. The real judges would be the jury. If someone made a claim against another that the other had harmed him or damaged his property, and the jury ruled it to be true, the accused would be punished by making the one he harmed whole, and then by having the same harm or damage done to him. If it turned out that the one making the claim lied, he would pay the accused the same amount he was seeking in damages. In all cases where a magistrate or jury intentionally did wrong in their judging, they could be held responsible by the people, and punished with the same kind of punishment they intended for the accused. No corporation of any kind could take a person to court for anything. It would always need to be person to person. This is only the base. It would need to be expanded upon to cover everything that happens - like family matters where one person was abusing another family member, or like for a dead person being found without knowledge of who he was, or like a method for forming a military temporarily when needed. But it is a start, so that we can see the most free form of government that there might be. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Christians aren't supposed to believe in reincarnation. I don't. My child, I'm afraid you haven't been paying attention to Teacher. Once again: Belief is not a choice. It's a compulsion beyond the realm of choice, based on observation/evidence; in science argument and consensus.
Desirability is not a requisite of the truth. I do not choose what I believe because I perceive it as the more attraction option. I'm compelled to believe what I think is true, whether I like it or not!
The truth does not require your approval. It simply is. I don't know of any religions that states that suicide is a good thing. It's murder (of oneself), and so it's a sin for Christians. Religion is how the power elite controlled the peasants for many generations before the Nation State took over that role. Fear is a prison for your mind. This tragic fear of divine retribution would likely prevent you from committing the self-mercy of suicide even if you were enduring days or week of torture. Not months, though, and certainly not years. Pain is an inexhaustible resource, just like pleasure. Under those circumstances, sooner or later your superstition would break, unable to bear the weight of such suffering. Eventually you'd come to your senses and end it. Deep down you know this to be true. "My child?" Wow, how pretentious can you get? You said you're a "psych major." What are you? Late teens? Early 20's? Bold, bold statements for a student to say... A Psych Major? What? Why not be a major in something that will make serious money and be some value to the world. Like chemical engineering. Good point. Kinda like for meteorologists. They should make them spend a year predicting the stock market before they give them a weather forecasting job. If they can earn themselves a $100,000 predicting the stock market, they can have a job predicting the weather. Of course, then we wouldn't have any meteorologists. Why not? Because either they wouldn't pass the test (making $100,000), or they would keep on with the stock market until they could make a $million a year. Forget the weather. That would be okay, though. All you need do to see why it would be okay is, visit http://www.wunderground.com/ for many cities in the USA. Take a look at the 10-day forecast throughout the day. Often it changes more than half-a-dozen times a day. Sometimes the forecast for the current day changes as the day goes on, to match what is happening in the weather outside. I make my mistakes, and I am embarrassed about it. But I don't see how meteorologists can live with their mistakes... constantly, day in and day out. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Christians aren't supposed to believe in reincarnation. I don't. My child, I'm afraid you haven't been paying attention to Teacher. Once again: Belief is not a choice. It's a compulsion beyond the realm of choice, based on observation/evidence; in science argument and consensus.
Desirability is not a requisite of the truth. I do not choose what I believe because I perceive it as the more attraction option. I'm compelled to believe what I think is true, whether I like it or not!
The truth does not require your approval. It simply is. I don't know of any religions that states that suicide is a good thing. It's murder (of oneself), and so it's a sin for Christians. Religion is how the power elite controlled the peasants for many generations before the Nation State took over that role. Fear is a prison for your mind. This tragic fear of divine retribution would likely prevent you from committing the self-mercy of suicide even if you were enduring days or week of torture. Not months, though, and certainly not years. Pain is an inexhaustible resource, just like pleasure. Under those circumstances, sooner or later your superstition would break, unable to bear the weight of such suffering. Eventually you'd come to your senses and end it. Deep down you know this to be true. "My child?" Wow, how pretentious can you get? You said you're a "psych major." What are you? Late teens? Early 20's? Bold, bold statements for a student to say... Equally as pretentious as the man in the church referred to as "father" who is not your father? I can't speak on Beliathon's behalf, but it looks to me like a joke, that has been taken very seriously ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Another point for Buddhism, the only religion that has a sense of humour ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It isn't Buddhism that has the sense of humor. It's the Buddhists, 'cause they realize what a joke religion is. That's because they haven't encountered the pure sense that Christianity makes. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Do you have any idea how close Christianity is to Buddhism in practice? Jesus essentially taught Buddhism! Most Buddhists revere Jesus's teachings. "Christ"inanity is about Jesus and his teachings, and those teachings nearly mimic Buddhist precepts. Do you have any idea how far Buddhism is from Christianity in faith? In Christianity, doing the will of the Father - obeying the laws of God - is essentially believing in Jesus for life and salvation. In Buddhism, it is actively seeking to do right things all the time, something that we all fail at. Christianity is success, because we don't need perfect faith to have sufficient faith before God. Buddhism is failure, because we are all tainted already, by built in tendency to not live life perfectly... tendency we will follow given enough time. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Belief is not a choice. It's a compulsion beyond the realm of choice, based on observation/evidence; in science argument and consensus.
Desirability is not a requisite of the truth. I do not choose what I believe because I perceive it as the more attraction option. I'm compelled to believe what I think is true, whether I like it or not!
The truth does not require your approval. It simply is.
Now you're talking cause and effect. Now you finally understand that you don't have any free will... that free will is an illusion. Time for you to let God direct your illusion-mind to request Him to show you the truth by requesting Him to do so, like He is attempting to direct it, through cause and effect from the beginning right down to the present. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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Christians aren't supposed to believe in reincarnation. I don't. My child, I'm afraid you haven't been paying attention to Teacher. Once again: Belief is not a choice. It's a compulsion beyond the realm of choice, based on observation/evidence; in science argument and consensus.
Desirability is not a requisite of the truth. I do not choose what I believe because I perceive it as the more attraction option. I'm compelled to believe what I think is true, whether I like it or not!
The truth does not require your approval. It simply is. I don't know of any religions that states that suicide is a good thing. It's murder (of oneself), and so it's a sin for Christians. Religion is how the power elite controlled the peasants for many generations before the Nation State took over that role. Fear is a prison for your mind. This tragic fear of divine retribution would likely prevent you from committing the self-mercy of suicide even if you were enduring days or week of torture. Not months, though, and certainly not years. Pain is an inexhaustible resource, just like pleasure. Under those circumstances, sooner or later your superstition would break, unable to bear the weight of such suffering. Eventually you'd come to your senses and end it. Deep down you know this to be true. "My child?" Wow, how pretentious can you get? You said you're a "psych major." What are you? Late teens? Early 20's? Bold, bold statements for a student to say... Equally as pretentious as the man in the church referred to as "father" who is not your father? I can't speak on Beliathon's behalf, but it looks to me like a joke, that has been taken very seriously ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Another point for Buddhism, the only religion that has a sense of humour ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It isn't Buddhism that has the sense of humor. It's the Buddhists, 'cause they realize what a joke religion is. That's because they haven't encountered the pure sense that Christianity makes. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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we dont need hope need to start trading it ,let people pay with it ,it will became an option to protect capital,Greece is the first to colapse but there are others that will fall .
I hear that Greece has gone back to barter. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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I live at the north pole. As of this writing, last night for me was long enough ago that I simply don't remember. (Just joking.) ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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