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361  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: September 17, 2016, 09:12:51 PM
To start trading with a very small amount you need to trade with stuff that costs very small. For example if you are trading with alt coins then buy cheap ones only.
The expensive ones you wont be able to buy alot of them making not much profit.
But every time stay alert with cheap altcoins and get a full knowledge about any coin into which you want to invest for your trade, as most of the cheaper coins comes to death very sooner and you will lose your investment.
362  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: I have 5K€ to invest ! on: September 17, 2016, 09:10:37 PM
if you do not like to take risks, maybe it can buy and hold bitcoin for the price increases.

but, mining ETH risks also not too big, just buy mining tools, building mining RIG and buy a few VGA, I think it is good enough for it.

or take a little risk and investment in ICO's, it could be huge profits, can even get a 2-3 fold.

The mining Ethereum is get less profitable now, especially for the people with high electricity price and old GPU.

ETH seems to be a coin that will go down in the future, I would not mine it nor invest in it. The coin I think that will prosper on the short term is stellar and bitshares. Other coins seems to be rip of off others which means no innovation and no future.

I think there is no any lose if you start to mine ethereum, as with that you will only spend your electricity and if you have a cheap cost electricity then you should have to mine it, as no one know that what will be the future of ethereum, for me it also looks as the pump of traders but with mining you can get a good profit. while investing is a risk but if the investors will be there with it the price will be better.
363  Other / Off-topic / Re: Will you quit your day job to go full time on bitcoin? on: September 15, 2016, 07:49:48 PM
Personally I wouldn't do that because I am not in the position to do so. But I would totally understand somebody who decides to do it though.
There's even people who sold their house in bitcoin and made mad profit. Sometimes you have to take leaps.
No this is a huge risk and i never gonna do that no matter whatever the situation i may be in specially selling house is a mad thing.I dont know someone did it or not but i dont support this,yes we love bitcoin but too much dependency only in bitcoin is i never going to support.


Yes we cannot afford to put all our money in bitcois as we are not sure what will happen in future and if bitcoins disappear then we will loose all our money that we have.

How can you say that bitcoin will disappear, it is impossible that bitcoin will disappear as we have the control on bitcoin and we value bitcoin and will not sell it on lower price and you can see that most of the altcoins are died and they are still on exchanges available for to buy , so how will be a popular and a powerful currency escape.
364  Economy / Economics / Re: I have 12 BTC in my Account, How should I invest this?? on: September 15, 2016, 07:46:54 PM
I would not even invest because the bitcoin has a good future and I think its not worth investing the bitcoin in something.
I think honestly that we just should hold and not invest it.

Yes investing involves risk especially when it comes to an online world and if you are a safe player then better to hold them and wait for the higher price to make profits from it.

You are right holding for a long time is better but with that he also have to start trade with altcoin so that he will be able to increase the amount of bitcoin much more and will be able to invest in bigger places in the future like to invest in own business.
365  Economy / Economics / Re: Best way for steady income on: September 15, 2016, 07:12:31 PM

IMO best way for a steady income is start a business.  1.) it has upside and 2.) if you get sick of injured you can often still run it.  So its best to pick a business you can run under most circumstances.  Even better is to have a flexible business where you can live anywhere.   

Anyway that is the idea scenario.
What can of business are going to build ? because for me the way for steady your income is finding a job and love it with all your heart so that you can never be fired and you will be regular in you work, and if can make salary of 600$ a week then thats awesome job.

Business will not give you steady income at least in the beginning and you may go through loss in it at initial stage but if you keep on improving and keep on working on it then results would be different in future.

Yes, business is not always good for everyone one. And it's also not riskfree. So, all you need proper knowledge, skill and bit of luck to become succeed on it.

I will say that business is a good way for everyone to get a good steady profit and if they will work hard for to promote that business then they will not face any risk or any hard time and will get the success for which they will work .
366  Economy / Economics / Re: Invest your bitcoins. on: September 15, 2016, 06:58:00 PM
i think invest your bitcoin in altcoin because trading is much more better than other investment and i am sure you can get a good profit in huge amount and there is maximum people are earning money in huge amount through trading.

Yeah you are right investing in altcoin and doing trade with bitcoin is more better than investing in gambling as in gambling we face a high risk and mostly peple lose their money because of scam or something else, while in trade we are oir boss with having control on our money.
367  Economy / Economics / Re: How too get rich on: September 15, 2016, 06:32:04 PM
You want to know how 'too' get rich?

Read more. Learn more. Make plans and take good decisions. Take risks and always have a smile Smiley
yes, to be rich you should diligently read to gain useful knowledge for yourself, working hard is the key to success do not waste a lot of money on things that are not useful. save your money in the bank then you will be rich. Smiley

I agree that working hard is one part  but you are missing the other part.  Having  knowledge may help  but not implementing it is the worst scenario.  So working  hard and with knowledge, working smart is the real key to success and succesful financial management is the key to getting rich.  Hardwork using your brain and wise  financial management is the key factor in my opinion.

Yes and only working hard will never make you rich, you need to add a flavor of working smart to it then things will be lot easier and you can expect to get rich in future.

I think to become rich you need three thing's. these are skills,opportunity and hard work. With these three anyone can become rich. I think none can be rich without these three things.

You also need a little bit luck. Being there at the right time. Having the right idea, right people etc. etc. If you have these 4 factors at hand, then you can be sure you will be succesfull.
The problem is however you can't just get luck.

I agree with three things as your forth is luck and you can consider luck in opportunity, if a person will have luck then he will find the opportunity. So Skills , opportunity and hard work will let us to become rich sooner.
368  Economy / Economics / Re: Is silver a good store of value? on: September 15, 2016, 06:02:06 PM
If you want you can store some amount of your money in silver. Your capital will be secured in silver but you cannot expect a high profit from investment in silver as the price of silver is mostly stable and the fluctuations are very much smaller. I will not choose silver for my investment as I have the option of bitcoin for investment.
369  Economy / Economics / Re: How to make 17 BTC out of 7 BTC ? on: September 15, 2016, 05:59:52 PM
7 bitcoins is really big amount of bitcoins and if i were you i will deposit all into gambling sports betting and i will play super safe by bet on lower odds. You can make good profit with lower odds with big base bet.
Yes 7 bitcoins is really big account of bitcoins to earn basically if we are trying to push to earn that much bitcoin we could take the big risk in gambling because in every time we put a high bet there are chance that we could lose fast and if you are going to trade that there are chance to that you could lose your money.

Lol there are less chances of loosing money in trading instead of gambling, as gambling is pure luck bases show and no skills and strategy will help you in earning money from it.

I think gambling should be consider as a time passing game.Because its not going to help you by giving profit.Rather it can made you empty hand.I will prefer trading rather than gambling because trading gives me good profit in short time. Also I wanna hold bitcoin but not wanna waste it on gambling.
Yeah it is good to call it as time pass games.. and for entertainment purposes while you are waiting for something..
Gambling is not made to give free money.. thats why they are start to make business like that because they know they sure that they will earn a lot for it..

when gambling came to existence then it was for the purpose of fun and entertainment, if someone will consider gambling as a source of earning money then he will plan to invest their capital and so he will make a way to lose their capital in no time.
370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Monero most likely coin to challenge Bitcoin on: September 14, 2016, 09:25:02 PM
Quit being stupid..
If Monero was a challenger to Bitcoin it would have been obvious years ago.
There is no debate to be had here.
And the OP posted a stupid comment / topic.

Bitcoin isn't even Close to being "mainstream". If it ever even gets there. Any cryptocurrency can challenge Bitcoin at this stage.

isn't the opposite? at that point no crypto coin can dream to challenge bitcoin, if it is the right time for any other crypto to challenge it should be now
Monero can only dream for to challenge bitcoin but in real it cannot even follow bitcoin, bitcoin has reached to a highest peak and now none of the altcoin has that much potential to get that much success and none of the altcoin is able to get the place of bitcoin.
371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What's your strategy when buying altcoins? on: September 14, 2016, 09:21:36 PM
First of all you should have to do a deep research for the coin in which you want to invest and have to wait for it for a few weeks to monitor its volume of trade on exchanges and its potential after that try to invest there.
372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Omicron - Dividend-Issuing Currency - 42 BTC raised, 20 hrs left for 5% discount on: September 14, 2016, 08:57:52 PM
the next plan
where added omicron in exchanger
i hope the first plan added to choose one exchanger , poloniex, bitrex or c-cex
I will vote for poloniex. But as of now I am not worrying about where Omicron will be listed rather I am collecting all possible funds to buy more Omicron before ICO ends. Without having a big slash of them, worrying where and when it will be listed is not that much meaningful in my opinion.

iam very happy is added poloniex, but bitex or c-cex , enough for me
bitrex and c-cex same good altcoin exchanger poloniex

will they add it to only one exchange? I think they have to add their coin to a number of exchanges with that it is be harder for a group to dump this coin easily, the more exchanges they will join the more will it be stronger.
Cryptsy had the practice of adding new coins by it's own (I hoped so) and they had called it "inevitable addition". Similarly no one could stop Omicron could be added in to multiple exchnages. Having more options to trade must be good (in the time of one exchange site is down for maintenance). I like to suggest to add in shapeshift.

Wow it is nice to see for that coin, I hope that the interest for that coin will increase more higher if they add their coins to a number of exchanges as not all of the crypto on a single exchange they are distributed on all of the exchanges and so the exchanges will have it the more people will invest in it.
373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin or Ethereum ? on: September 14, 2016, 08:35:36 PM
Bitcoin is the past, present and future for us, we cannot say that it will now ever reach to zero as people are investing their money in bitcoin and they have trust on it and for them it is the only reliable crypto currency for long term storage.
374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Any upcoming alts worh investing? on: September 14, 2016, 08:05:48 PM
Old alts with stronger base are more worth to invest in but if you want to invest in new altcoins then always try to select those altcoins which will have known developers as if known developers will have the coins in which you will invest then you will not be afraid that they will scam you as if they scammed then their future will be in prison.
375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Do you think monero can get pumped soon? on: September 14, 2016, 07:53:12 PM
Currently this coin is going good in the market and people have believe on it for their profit so they are investing with lesser fear with that I think the price of it will rise once again to that value.
376  Economy / Services / Re: Which Bitcoin Debit Card is Useful in Pakistan. on: September 14, 2016, 07:24:40 PM
On that topic I have searched in google and in one article the writer recommend ANX debit card for Pakistan, I think you should have to check that and I think Hongkong is near to Pakistan that is why it should be allowed there. I do not know more if anyone have experience with ANX card they can explain more about that card. to you especially if they are from Pakistan.

in the link below is the details about the ANX bitcoin debit card, try to read the comments also to get more info about the service. That news is from 2014 you can go to the anxpro.com for more latest info

http://www.coindesk.com/exchange-anx-launch-reloadable-bitcoin-debit-cards/
377  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Best Investments on: September 13, 2016, 10:14:08 PM
The best investment is not to put your bitcoin in any other place but keep them with you in your wallet, with the passage of time the price will continue to increase and so you will get a good profit.

You are right bitcoin itself is a very good investment, when we put our money in bitcoin then we do both saving and investment, as bitcoin is a currency and also a good investment, so any person who will like to save their money will have to put them in bitcoin so they will feel safe their money while in bitcoin.
378  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is bitcoin better or paypal? on: September 13, 2016, 10:08:44 PM
Bitcoin is better than paypal when it comes to security. There's 2FA in Bitcoin, signed message, email verification, etc. And the person you're transacting with cannot secretly dispute his payment before 180 days. The only advantage of using Paypal over Bitcoin is that there are more online shops that accepts paypal than bitcoin.

The advantage that paypal is accepting in more stores is also going to reduce with the passage of time, and we are now seeing new shops poping up with the payment system of bitcoin as they know now people like to accept bitcoin and with purse and shopawl we are now able to shop from amazon and ebay with bitcoin.
379  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Is Holding Bitcoin a long time good way to make money? on: September 13, 2016, 09:58:14 PM
I dont think it is very clever to hold your bitcoins for such a long time becuase if you dont do anything with your coins the value wont change and doubling coins is easy with tradings.

but if someone will put their extra money in bitcoin then it will not bad idea, and I think it will affect the value in positive as if people will store their bitcoins in their wallet then with the lower supply and high demand the price of bitcoin will rise up. We jsut need to store our extra money as bitcoin for longer time and have to use the remaining in bitcoin market for our purchases and transactions.
380  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: how to start trading with a very small amount on: September 13, 2016, 09:51:57 PM
you can start trading with any amount , when i was join bitcoin first time i also start trading from amount of .02 bitcoin and and i am trading with big amount easily and there is too much less risk of trading .

With trading with a small amount you will want to sort alt coins by price and check out the cheapest ones. Then check which one you think will rise and succeed a little and then buy the most cheap. Like this you are sure to be able to buy enough coins to actually profit. But i suggest to get more money before trading and also alot of skill.

altcoin is a better option for starting trade with small amount but in searching for a cheap altcoin the traders must have to be more alert in regards of the history and  the potential of that coin and project as mostly those coins comes to cheaper price which are on the way of their death.
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