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361  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 12:10:30 PM
God (man who pretended to be god) was writing that all who believe in other gods should be put to death...and he was speaking to (writing for) anyone who believed the bible......which we now call christians.

If you believe God actually wrote or inspired this , then you believe your god wants us to kill anyone who doesnt believe in him.   Great and loving/forgiving god that he is.
I agree that God gave instructions to destroy some nations.  Who did he give them to?  Simple question.

 By the way, while it is evil to worship anyone other than our Creator, that is not why he gave the instructions to destroy those select nations - else other nations would have been on the list.
362  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 12:04:20 PM
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/...m/messiah.html

Jewish Concepts:
The Messiah

Many Jews have long been skeptical of predictions announcing the imminent arrival of the Messiah (Ma*shi*akh). The first century sage Rabban Yochanan ben Zakkai once said: "If you should happen to be holding a sapling in your hand when they tell you that the Messiah has arrived, first plant the sapling and then go out and greet the Messiah." An old Jewish story tells of a Russian Jew who was paid a ruble a month by the community council to stand at the outskirts of town so that he could be the first person to greet the Messiah upon his arrival. When a friend said to him, "But the pay is so low," the man replied: "True, but the job is permanent."

Yet, the belief in a messiah and a messianic age is so deeply rooted in Jewish tradition that a statement concerning the Messiah became the most famous of Maimonides's Thirteen Principles of Faith: "And Ma'amin, I believe with a full heart in the coming of the Messiah, and even though he may tarry, I will wait for him on any day that he may come." In the concentration camps, it is reported that many Jews sang the Ani Ma'amin while walking to the gas chambers.

On the one hand, ironic jokes and skepticism; on the other, passionate faith: What then is the Jewish position on the Messiah?

Most significantly, Jewish tradition affirms at least five things about the Messiah. He will: be a descendant of King David, gain sovereignty over the land of Israel, gather the Jews there from the four corners of the earth, restore them to full observance of Torah law, and, as a grand finale, bring peace to the whole world. Concerning the more difficult tasks some prophets assign him, such as Isaiah's vision of a messianic age in which the wolf shall dwell with the lamb and the calf with the young lion (Isaiah 11:6), Maimonides believes that Isaiah's language is metaphorical (for example, only that enemies of the Jews, likened to the wolf, will no longer oppress them). A century later, Nachmanides rejected Maimonides's rationalism and asserted that Isaiah meant precisely what he said: that in the messianic age even wild animals will become domesticated and sweet*tempered. A more recent Jewish "commentator," Woody Allen, has cautioned: "And the lamb and the wolf shall lie down together, but the lamb won't get any sleep."

The Jewish belief that the Messiah's reign lies in the future has long distinguished Jews from their Christian neighbors who believe, of course, that the Messiah came two thousand years ago in the person of Jesus. The most basic reason for the Jewish denial of the messianic claims made on Jesus' behalf is that he did not usher in world peace, as Isaiah had prophesied: "And nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war anymore" (Isaiah 2:4). In addition, Jesus did not help bring about Jewish political sovereignty for the Jews or protection from their enemies.

A century after Jesus, large numbers of Palestinian Jews followed the would*be Messiah, Simon Bar*Kokhba, in a revolt against the Romans. The results were catastrophic, and the Jews suffered a devastating defeat. In 1665*1666, large segments of world Jewry believed that Shabbetai Zvi, a Turkish Jew, was the Messiah, and confidently waited for Turkey's sultan to deliver Palestine to him. Instead, the sultan threatened Shabbetai with execution and the "Messiah" saved his life by converting to Islam.

In the modern world, Reform Judaism has long denied that there will be an individual messiah who will carry out the task of perfecting the world. Instead, the movement speaks of a future world in which human efforts, not a divinely sent messenger, will bring about a utopian age. The Reform idea has influenced many non*Orthodox Jews: The oft*noted attraction of Jews to liberal and left*wing political causes probably represents a secular attempt to usher in a messianic age.

Among traditional Jews, the belief in a personal messiah seems to have grown more central in recent years. When I was growing up in the 1950s and 1960s, the subject of the Messiah was rarely, if ever, mentioned at the Jewish school I attended, the Yeshiva of Flatbush. Today however, one large movement within Orthodoxy, Lubavitch, has placed increasing emphasis on the imminence of the Messiah's arrival. At gatherings of their youth organizations, children chant, "We want Ma-shi*akh now."

At the same time, the subject of the Messiah has become increasingly central to many religious Zionists in Israel, particularly to many disciples of the late Rabbi Abraham Isaac Kook. The event that helped set the stage for a revived interest in the Messiah was the Six*Day War of 1967, in which Israel captured the Old City of Jerusalem and, for the first time in over two thousand years, achieved Jewish rule over the biblically ordained borders of Israel.

A sober reading of Jewish history, however, indicates that while the messianic idea has long elevated Jewish life, and prompted Jews to work for tikkun olam (perfection of the world), whenever Jews have thought the Messiah's arrival to be imminent, the results have been catastrophic. In 1984, a Jewish religious underground was arrested in Israel. Among its other activities, the group had plotted to blow up the Muslim Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem, so that the Temple Mount could be cleared and the Temple rebuilt. Though such an action might well have provoked an international Islamic jihad (holy war) against Israel, some members of this underground group apparently welcomed such a possibility, feeling that a worldwide invasion of Israel would force God to bring the Messiah immediately. It is precisely when the belief in the Messiah's coming starts to shape political decisions that the messianic idea ceases to be inspiring and becomes dangerous.
yeshayahu leibowitz wrote the encyclopedia judaica, the ultimate compendium on jewish thought. here is the Messiah entry:

http://go.galegroup.com/ps/retrieve....4&docType=GALE
363  Other / Off-topic / Re: Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 11:56:30 AM
Hmm.   Seeing there were no Christians before the book of Acts, pretty neat trick, eh?Might check again - who is God giving instructions to in that book?
364  Other / Politics & Society / Re: U.S. Aircraft Strike ISIS Targets in Iraq on: August 11, 2014, 11:33:10 AM
are there any images of the air strikes, I saw this on many media outlet but no images were provided
no pictures,here is the link were i read the news : http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/aug/08/us-begins-air-strikes-iraq-isis
365  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 11:24:31 AM
There are Ashkenazi Jews who share a similar genetic profile. There are Ethiopian Jews who share a similar genetic profile. And there are Middle Eastern and North African Jews who share a similar genetic profile. But Jews are not really a race but a people and a religion. That is the most important thing about the Jewish people. They are a people and a religion.
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I read somewhere that Jews cannot be near the homeless because it could turn them poor, which is against the Jewish religion, nor can they walk under ladders .
I don't know much about that. Sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz-QMDPW5RM
So he is saying that the prophecy is that the Messiah is coming but will never come? I disagree with him.

According to Jewish belief, when the Messiah comes, he will bring all the Jews back to Israel. Afterwards, he will rebuild the Third Temple. Then G-d will reveal Himself. Afterwards, the people chosen to live on in Olam Haba (The World To Come) will work hard to improve the world they live in and will work hard to get closer and closer to G-d's knowledge. We can never completely know G-d, but we can strive to get closer and closer to His knowledge.
no, he's saying that the messiah is a concept, and not a prophecy that constraints the physical universe (in the future, present, or past), and therefore, any messiah that comes, is not the messiah.

considering he's one of the most important jewish theologians of the last century, i'll stick with him.
366  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 11:04:24 AM
There are Ashkenazi Jews who share a similar genetic profile. There are Ethiopian Jews who share a similar genetic profile. And there are Middle Eastern and North African Jews who share a similar genetic profile. But Jews are not really a race but a people and a religion. That is the most important thing about the Jewish people. They are a people and a religion.
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I read somewhere that Jews cannot be near the homeless because it could turn them poor, which is against the Jewish religion, nor can they walk under ladders .
I don't know much about that. Sorry.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zz-QMDPW5RM
367  Other / Off-topic / Does God judge the nations? on: August 11, 2014, 11:01:20 AM
Most faiths refer to some type of individual judgement, be it from the Creator, or some other source.

Not sure how many refer to God also judging the nations.  The Bible does (both Old and New), and I think the Koran does.

Psalm 2 in the Bible refers to this judgement, among other passages.  So does Psalm 9.  Below iit is being applied to the United States.   Romans chapter 1 comes to mind also.
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The nations have sunk down in the pit which they have made;" Psalm 9:15a, NASB

I don't know what better commentary there could be on the world right now than this verse. The nations have literally sunk into a pit! Our nation is far from what it was even fifteen years ago in terms of morality.

Television offers scores of channels which have desensitized us to violence and sexual immorality.

Life has been devalued to the point that late-term abortions are performed and it is now acceptable to kill a child while it's being born.

It will not be long and the same devaluation of life that has been placed on the innocent unborn will be applied to the elderly and disabled.

While men and women gorge themselves on Internet pornography, family life has disintegrated to the point that over fifty percent of children live in homes without a father.

Without a moral compass, once righteous, free nations will lose political discernment and fall prey to the power of enemies hell-bent on their subjection or destruction.

Yet, those who dare raise a voice of warning or dissent are marginalized or demonized.

The Bible warns that the pit the nations have dug, they will fall into and this will be the undoing of our society.

There is a moral line, after which a civilization passes, that will cause it to self-destruct. We must realize God's judgment is often poured out silently. He gives a society over to its evil desires and it cannibalizes itself. It sinks down into the pit it has dug.

As the pit is dug deeper, the window of escape narrows until there is no possibility of turning back, in the will of God, consequences begin to march the society and/or the civilization to destruction.

What can we do? We can continue to make our voice heard and resist growing callous to sin. We must stay hot-hearted in our love and devotion to our Lord Jesus and take strong, courageous stands for the truth. We must gather together to pray. And we must pray, and when we have prayed, we must pray and pray more.

The Lord promises:

"…if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land." 2 Chronicles 7:14 
368  Other / Off-topic / Re: Biblical Prayer - driver version on: August 11, 2014, 10:42:19 AM
The only new thing about prayer ever invented by man is making more and more excuses for why prayers are not answered,not in our days.
369  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 10:40:43 AM
What about cheapness? Are Jews more or less generous than Christians?
Christians 100% more with their time. Money is anyone's guess buy I have seen plenty of both ,I am christian but my father is Jewish. As is my wife and her family.
370  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
I ask because whenever he meets Hebrews they ask him where he is  from and he say's i am chaldean from iraq. They smile and say we are brothers and we share the same blood as we came from Abraham

371  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Key Points about the Jewish religion on: August 11, 2014, 10:12:51 AM
I know a chaldean from iraq from the same region where Abraham was from. (Nineveh).

Is it possible to get Israeli citizenship due to this lineage?
372  Economy / Economics / Re: Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"? on: August 11, 2014, 09:38:11 AM
Can you clarify on what you mean by a "not for profit rental".
You rent without the intention of making profit. The loss caused by the rental that you are allowed to deduct is limited to the income from it. You can't deduct excess loss against your main income.
Its a classification by the irs
373  Other / Politics & Society / U.S. Aircraft Strike ISIS Targets in Iraq on: August 11, 2014, 09:27:56 AM
U.S. conducts airstrikes on ISIS militants in Iraq
By Tom Cohen and Ben Brumfield, CNN
updated 1:28 PM EDT, Fri August 8, 2014

Washington (CNN) -- Two U.S. F/A-18 jet fighters bombed artillery of Sunni Islamic extremists in Iraq on Friday, escalating America's military involvement more than two years after President Barack Obama brought home forces from the country.

Obama authorized "targeted airstrikes" if needed to protect U.S. personnel from fighters with ISIS, which calls itself the Islamic State. The U.S. military also could use airstrikes to prevent what officials warn could be a genocide of minority groups by the ISIS fighters.

Meanwhile, a senior Kurdish official told CNN that ISIS militants captured Iraq's largest hydroelectric dam, just north of Mosul, Iraq's second-largest city. According to the official, the militant fighters have been using U.S.-made weapons seized from the Iraqi army, including M1 Abrams tanks.

There had been conflicting reports about who controlled the dam on the Tigris River, with heavy fighting under way between ISIS fighters and Kurdish forces, known as Peshmerga. U.S. officials have warned that a failure of the dam would catastrophic, resulting in flooding all the way to Baghdad.

In other fighting, an Iraqi airstrike killed 45 ISIS fighters and injured 60 Friday in the northern town of Sinjar, the country's state-run National Media Center said.

Sinjar is the town that ISIS raided last weekend, causing members of the Yazidi minority there to flee into surrounding mountains without food, water or shelter and prompting concerns of a potential genocide.
374  Economy / Economics / Tax crew:Is Not-for-profit rental a"property held for the production of income"? on: August 11, 2014, 09:23:56 AM
Technically a not for profit rental does generate some income, though the net income is negative after all the deductions. So does that make it a property held for the production of income (in Federal income tax context)?
375  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Misconceptions of Israeli Culture on: August 11, 2014, 09:22:30 AM
The Book of Genesis is mainly symbolic in nature. The six days of creation could have been billions of years. A day for God is like a thousand years for us or a billion years for us.

And whether or not the Bible is true, a lot of cultures, when speaking about their kings, would create stories about how they talked to the Gods. This is how history was passed down in ancient times. They would make up myths and legends to talk about their civilization's origins and to talk about their kings.
Well, that is 100% of religion. I specifically pointed out the myths and legends. So yes, necessarily.
bibles are much more than myths and legends...

there are parables and fables, short stories, tall stories, small stories, folk tales, fairy tales, allegories, sagas, delusion, fabrication, fancy, fantasy, fiction, figment, illusion, invention, imagination and superstition
376  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Misconceptions of Israeli Culture on: August 11, 2014, 09:12:49 AM
Historical Criticism.

The historicity of the Book of Genesis is more or less denied, except by the representatives of a strict inspiration theory. Genesis recounts myths and legends. It is generally admitted that the primal story is not historical; but critics vary in ascribing to the stories of the Patriarchs more or less of a historical foundation. For details see the articles under their respective names; here only a summary can be given:

(a) The story of the Creation can not be historically true, for the reasons (1) that there can be no human traditions of these events; (2) its assumption of a creation in six days, with the sequence of events as recounted, contradicts the theories of modern science regarding the formation of the heavenly bodies during vast periods of time, especially that of the earth, its organisms, and its position in the universe. The popular view of Genesis can not be reconciled with modern science. The story is a religio-scientific speculation on the origin of the world, analogous to the creation-myths found among many peoples. The similarities to the Babylonian creation-myth are most numerous and most striking. The extent of its dependence on other myths, the mode of transmission, and the age and history of the tradition and its adaptation are still matters of dispute.

(b) The story of the Garden of Eden is a myth, invented in order to answer certain questions of religion, philosophy, and cultural history. Its origin can not be ascertained, as no parallel to it has so far been found.

(c) The stories of Cain and Abel and the genealogies of the Cainites and Sethites are reminiscences of legends, the historical basis for which can no longer be ascertained. Their historical truth is excluded by the great age assigned to the Sethites, which contradicts all human experience. A parallel is found in the ten antediluvian primal kings of Babylonian chronology, where the figures are considerably greater.

(d) The story of the Flood is a legend that is found among many peoples. It is traced back to a Babylonian prototype, still extant. It is perhaps founded on reminiscences of a great seismic-cyclonic event that actually occurred, but could have been only partial, as a general flood of the whole earth, covering even the highest mountains, is not conceivable.

(e) The genealogy of peoples is a learned attempt to determine genealogically the relation of peoples known to the author, but by no means including the entire human race; this point of view was current in antiquity, although it does not correspond to the actual facts.

(f) The stories of the Patriarchs are national legends. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob and his sons are idealized personifications of the people, its tribes, and families; and it can not now be ascertained whether or not these are based on more or less obscure reminiscences of real personages. In any case, these legends furnish no historically definite or even valuable information regarding the primal history of the people of Israel. The whole conception of the descent of one people from one family and one ancestor is unhistorical; for a people originates through the combination of different families. It has also been maintained that the stories of the Patriarchs are pale reflections of mythology or nature-myths.
377  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Setting up Xapo? I got a card, even though in USA. on: August 09, 2014, 12:20:20 PM
I had ordeered one as well and if you wanted the xapo card send expressed you would have too complete 3 steps to get the first batch of cards.

I contacted them on facebook and they said the early birds should be getting there shipment, I didnt complete the request to them faster as well, so I guess I will be getting mine in a few weeks.
378  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: GUIDE SETTING UP A SOLAR POWER SYSTEM on: August 09, 2014, 12:17:46 PM
Are you buying these solar panels wholesale or retail cause to me right new solar energy is costly and take like 10 years to make back your savings which they should be cut down to 5 years would be nice.     
379  Other / Off-topic / Re: Biblical Prayer - driver version on: August 09, 2014, 12:12:27 PM
From Calvary Grace Mail

http://www.calvaryphx.com/

"The prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working" (James 5:16b).

This verse could be translated, "The fervent, hot-hearted prayer of a righteous person is very effective."

Too often our prayers are general and unspecific. We may pray, "Lord, please bless my family," or "Lord, give wisdom to my friend," or maybe "Lord, please bring peace to the world."

Now, there's nothing wrong with praying for these things, but they are very general, and you know they are somewhat half-hearted and lack enthusiasm.

James talks about a prayer that is "fervent" and a heart that is heated in its desire to see a specific answer from God. These prayers are effective and powerful.

Maltbie Babcock was a strong young man who walked away from a potential baseball career to become a preacher and an evangelist. You may know him best by the hymn he wrote, "This Is My Father's World." He once talked about the key to effective prayer: "Our prayers are to mean something to us if they are to mean anything to God."

Today, pray something specific for someone. Pray with enthusiasm, expecting God to answer and see what He does.
Jesus CLEARLY equate Faith + ACTION= Forgiveness.

Paul never heard of "The Lord's Prayer", and would have never taught it because Paul's "faith" never required actions/deeds.
380  Other / Off-topic / Re: Biblical Prayer - driver version on: August 09, 2014, 12:08:59 PM
5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 6 But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father, who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. 7 And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words. 8 Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask him.

9 “This, then, is how you should pray:

“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
    on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
    as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation,[a]
    but deliver us from the evil one.

14 For if you forgive other people when they sin against you, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive others their sins, your Father will not forgive your sins.
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