Added you to the list and some others.
The list is growing. Please let me know so I can add your name to the list. I lost tons of money in AC and would like this to be fixed. The list so far:
AsiaCoin holders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden probrian bittcoinn voisina jarserk dirtypolecat masterboy nin7672 syrota AC2 (1.35 million AsiaCoin) Alpinist (200K AC) Gambiman Deathtoallptots (130K AC) goldmann bitsta (Lost 25 BTC) ra1nb0wdash (Lost 3 BTC) ApoloTwo (lost 10BTC or 20 BTC on it ( i am not sure). )
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The list is growing. Please let me know so I can add your name to the list. I lost tons of money in AC and would like this to be fixed. The list so far:
AsiaCoin holders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden probrian bittcoinn voisina jarserk dirtypolecat masterboy nin7672 syrota AC2 (1.35 million AsiaCoin) Alpinist (200K AC) Gambiman Deathtoallptots (130K AC)
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More names added to the list.
AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden probrian bittcoinn voisina jarserk dirtypolecat masterboy nin7672 syrota AC2 (1.35 million AsiaCoin) Alpinist (200K AC) Gambiman Deathtoallptots (130K AC)
There are ways to fix this as suggested by TokyoGhetto and micryon.
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there is a theoretical way to fix it.
but not practical. forget it.
Have some faith. There are tons of BTC lost in this endeavor. The community must come together and make this possible.
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More names added to the list.
AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden probrian bittcoinn voisina jarserk dirtypolecat masterboy nin7672 syrota AC2 (1.35 million AsiaCoin) Alpinist (200K AC) Gambiman
There are ways to fix this as suggested by TokyoGhetto and micryon.
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I would do the MintPal freeze as they are the first to do it before Cryptsy.
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I'm one of the AsiaCoin bagholders. If the dev does not come back with version #2, then we will have to come up with solutions to fix this. I'm going to start adding names to this list who are bagholders that want this fixed. I'll start with my name. AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden probrian bittcoinn voisina jarserk dirtypolecat masterboy nin7672 syrota AC2 (1.35 million AsiaCoin) Alpinist (200K AC) X-Laboratories
You guys don't need the dev to come back. Let him rot in hell. Asiacoin
can still be saved. Create a new blockchain that destroys the hidden
premine and have people exchange their coins to the new blockchain. It
happened with ADT and with Federation Credits.
Get a bounty together and contact the developers.
by looking at the blockchain and the movement of the hidden premine you
can determine where the coins went and how many.
with the amount of people involved...it will be worth it. Rising like a phoenix from the ashes will actually generate more interest in the coin, people will be amazed at how communities can rally together in the face of adversity.
The exchanges will not ignore us, the amount of trading volume this coin brings is INSANE. We need to restore confidence. We will adapt and overcome.
Copying the blockchain would still require surgical removal of the premine transactions all the way through the blockchain. So you have to do that work anyways. At which point, there's no point in a new coin, unless it's just for a "rebrand".
Anyways I see 2 methods of fixing it:
1) Allows use existing wallet.dat and db: - a) Pick a current block N, freeze things at that block (meaning any transactions after that is technically invalid) - b) Walk through blockchain from the beginning and trace the premine transactions all the way to current block N. - c) Find all addresses that have coins that originated from original premine transaction. - d) Hard code in the wallet file transaction accept code to BLOCK those addresses from allowing to send those transactions, greater than the amount of the bad "premine". - e) Compile, Release new wallet.
- PRO: you don't have to delete your wallet.dat or db - CON: going to be some huge IF statements in the code somewhere..
2) Allows use of existing wallet.dat (but throw away old db): - d) Do the same as above, except deviate from step d) - e) Derive a new list of addresses and their "real" coin amounts at block N - f) Code in the genesis block of a new chain, a distribution of those coins from this list. - g) Compile, Release new wallet.
- PRO: more streamlined blockchain/db - CON: you need to force all users to delete their DB but NOT their wallet.dat (may be some confusion here).
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Well, not entirely if they copy the blockchain.
Copying the blockchain would still require surgical removal of the premine transactions all the way through the blockchain. So you have to do that work anyways. At which point, there's no point in a new coin, unless it's just for a "rebrand". Anyways I see 2 methods of fixing it: 1) Allows use existing wallet.dat and db: - a) Pick a current block N, freeze things at that block (meaning any transactions after that is technically invalid) - b) Walk through blockchain from the beginning and trace the premine transactions all the way to current block N. - c) Find all addresses that have coins that originated from original premine transaction. - d) Hard code in the wallet file transaction accept code to BLOCK those addresses from allowing to send those transactions, greater than the amount of the bad "premine". - e) Compile, Release new wallet. - PRO: you don't have to delete your wallet.dat or db - CON: going to be some huge IF statements in the code somewhere.. 2) Allows use of existing wallet.dat (but throw away old db): - d) Do the same as above, except deviate from step d) - e) Derive a new list of addresses and their "real" coin amounts at block N - f) Code in the genesis block of a new chain, a distribution of those coins from this list. - g) Compile, Release new wallet. - PRO: more streamlined blockchain/db - CON: you need to force all users to delete their DB but NOT their wallet.dat (may be some confusion here). +1. Are you a coder? If so, it would be awesome if you can help fix this. There is a huge community here bagholding.
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I'm one of the AsiaCoin bagholders. If the dev does not come back with version #2, then we will have to come up with solutions to fix this. I'm going to start adding names to this list who are bagholders that want this fixed. I'll start with my name. AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden probrian bittcoinn voisina jarserk dirtypolecat masterboy nin7672 syrota AC2 (1.35 million AsiaCoin)
And see what TokyoGhetto said: You guys don't need the dev to come back. Let him rot in hell. Asiacoin
can still be saved. Create a new blockchain that destroys the hidden
premine and have people exchange their coins to the new blockchain. It
happened with ADT and with Federation Credits.
Get a bounty together and contact the developers.
by looking at the blockchain and the movement of the hidden premine you
can determine where the coins went and how many.
with the amount of people involved...it will be worth it. Rising like a phoenix from the ashes will actually generate more interest in the coin, people will be amazed at how communities can rally together in the face of adversity.
The exchanges will not ignore us, the amount of trading volume this coin brings is INSANE. We need to restore confidence. We will adapt and overcome.
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I'm one of the AsiaCoin bagholders. If the dev does not come back with version #2, then we will have to come up with solutions to fix this. I'm going to start adding names to this list who are bagholders that want this fixed. I'll start with my name. AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden probrian bittcoinn voisina jarserk dirtypolecat masterboy nin7672
And see what TokyoGhetto said: You guys don't need the dev to come back. Let him rot in hell. Asiacoin can still be saved. Create a new blockchain that destroys the hidden premine and have people exchange their coins to the new blockchain. It happened with ADT and with Federation Credits.
Get a bounty together and contact the developers.
by looking at the blockchain and the movement of the hidden premine you can determine where the coins went and how many.
See what micryon said: There's a couple of ways to fix this to eliminate the premine, but it would be quite a bit of effort. At minimum it would require some kind of transaction/block crawler script that would trace the premine and eliminate it from either a brand new blockchain (that is all valid minus the premine transactions), or through some huge If-statement baked into the new wallet code that blocks those "bad" coins. Basically the equivalent of carefully orchestrated database rebuild... So it's possible since the old code was archived, and we have the blockchain..
But then after that would require someone to rally all exchanges/multi pools.. create a new website, etc..
It will surely take some time.. and I'm not sure that it would all be worth it at this point due to the reputation damage to the coin.
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Does anyone find it extreamly lame that so many devs are out here to scam. I mean ya its such good money im sure most people would do it for a quick buck if they had the skills to develop cryptocurrency.
anyhow I think that even if ac2 comes out, the name ac would of have lost so much creditability that no one would buy into it again. does anyone agree with me? or do u still think coins like these will still have a good future ahead of them. I just feel like this is a repeat of wc. the value droped by half over night. in this case the ac value went from 1400 to zero.
does anyone agree?
It all depends. Hopefully the dev comes back with a fix, but if that doesn't happen then us bagholders will have to come up with a new solution to fix this. Cryptosteam do not understand who has bough AC all afternoon : it has been invested tons of BTC. Where are todays investors? Todays buyers just just weak hands or guys with some knowledge? this is important question at this point.
Yep. Tons of people bought it. At this point, we wait and see. In the meanwhile, I will keep adding people to the list.
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If anyone wants to post here, please keep in mind that It's a AC forum -Post only about Asiacoin. No advertisement of other coins and FUD
+1
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I'm one of the AsiaCoin bagholders. If the dev does not come back with version #2, then we will have to come up with solutions to fix this. I'm going to start adding names to this list who are bagholders that want this fixed. I'll start with my name. AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden probrian bittcoinn voisina
And see what TokyoGhetto said: You guys don't need the dev to come back. Let him rot in hell. Asiacoin can still be saved. Create a new blockchain that destroys the hidden premine and have people exchange their coins to the new blockchain. It happened with ADT and with Federation Credits.
Get a bounty together and contact the developers.
by looking at the blockchain and the movement of the hidden premine you can determine where the coins went and how many.
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I'm one of the AsiaCoin bagholders. If the dev does not come back with version #2, then we will have to come up with solutions to fix this. I'm going to start adding names to this list who are bagholders that want this fixed. I'll start with my name. AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden probrian
And see what TokyoGhetto said: You guys don't need the dev to come back. Let him rot in hell. Asiacoin can still be saved. Create a new blockchain that destroys the hidden premine and have people exchange their coins to the new blockchain. It happened with ADT and with Federation Credits.
Get a bounty together and contact the developers.
There are ways to fix this. Be patient and add your name to the list. We will form a new community.
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I'm one of the AsiaCoin bagholders. If the dev does not come back with version #2, then we will have to come up with solutions to fix this. I'm going to start adding names to this list who are bagholders that want this fixed. I'll start with my name. AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe Wolden
And see what TokyoGhetto said: You guys don't need the dev to come back. Let him rot in hell. Asiacoin can still be saved. Create a new blockchain that destroys the hidden premine and have people exchange their coins to the new blockchain. It happened with ADT and with Federation Credits.
Get a bounty together and contact the developers.
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You guys don't need the dev to come back. Let him rot in hell. Asiacoin can still be saved. Create a new blockchain that destroys the hidden premine and have people exchange their coins to the new blockchain. It happened with ADT and with Federation Credits.
Get a bounty together and contact the developers.
Thank you TokyoGhetto.
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I'm one of the AsiaCoin bagholders. If the dev does not come back with version #2, then we will have to come up with solutions to fix this.
I'm going to start adding names to this list who are bagholders that want this fixed. I'll start with my name.
AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself) Maestro1 Xuorc probrian artem6662 Shkembe
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I'm one of the AsiaCoin bagholders. If the dev does not come back with version #2, then we will have to come up with solutions to fix this.
I'm going to start adding names to this list who are bagholders that want this fixed. I'll start with my name.
AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan noobthegreat EEKman (Lost 3K USD. I feel you. I lost tons myself)
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it's dead just let it go
go find something wrong with Cinnicoin so we can kill that next
You need to leave this thread. We all lost money and there is no need to keep kicking us down.
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I'm one of the AsiaCoin bagholders. If the dev does not come back with version #2, then we will have to come up with solutions to fix this.
I'm going to start adding names to this list who are bagholders that want this fixed. I'll start with my name.
AsiaCoin Bagholders who wants to see a fix:
CryptoSteam Nicolaas.R silencesilence bluebit25 WildChaser777 istop08 GröBkAz Maxikosw (Maxikose on freenode irc) hrt cjp007 kache minuchi.str amit2007gunjan
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