I believe smooth stated that it would be fairly straight forward to adapt the cryptonote GUI to monero (please correct me if I misunderstood or my memory is incorrect).

I'm pledging my portion of the bounty to the cryptonote qt GUI because it would be familiar to most people already in crypto.

RE: Hiring a full time developer. I don't support this, unless it's already a core team member or a heavy contributor to the XMR repository. If that is the case, then I definitely do support the idea and will contribute to that effort as well.

I'll pledge 100 XMR to anyone who wants to incorporate cryptonote's qt GUI in monero and merge it into master. Anyone want to add to the bounty?

At those prices, I assume those who have millions of dollars worth of XMR wouldn't be storing them on exchanges anyway (unless they know what they're doing).

Does that surprise you? XMR's entire existence is because of all the suspicion surrounding BCN... so of course XMR supporters are critical... that's why they created XMR.

Your "lack of evidence" statement is poorly thought out. Even if it's true (it's not and you know it), we're not in court, and nobody has to prove the BCN/CN guys are a bunch of frauds when it's easier to simply not use it, and advise everyone else not to use it either.

But if you think BCN is full of rainbows and good intentions, then please spend more money on it.

This. In fact, if you really cared to look, you could find many of our names in the early pages of this thread showing initial interest in Bytecoin, and the discussion ultimately leading to the bitMonero fork.

Also, I found it interesting that the guy who showed up just to tell everyone he'd mined BCN in 2012 referred to it as "BCN" when the abbreviation known to him would have been "BTE."

You'd save everyone a lot more time if your posts were on-topic and in the appropriate thread.

Oh, so you have a point now? I thought you were just "peeling the onion."

Does this mean I was correct all along about you being a troll?


Oh right. I forgot you mentioned that.

Sorry but you're off topic. Mind taking it to an appropriate thread?

No no no. That makes way too much sense.

Here's what I think happened: a bunch of world-class cryptographers got together and created a digital currency in 2012 with groundbreaking, never-before-seen privacy technology, using funding they collectively saved in a penny jar. And who needs a whitepaper, right? Instead, they elevator-pitched many technically savvy (yet unaffiliated) individuals to mine the coin but not so much as mention its existence anywhere (you know, because miners love worthless coins that nobody knows about). And finally, over a year later, they eventually got around to writing a whitepaper that magically references the future.

100k is roughly 0.5%, so that kind of makes my point.

I believe Risto has said (but I can't find the reference) that he doesn't think anyone holds much more than 400k, because there's no good reason to at this point. A million is unlikely.

Not compared to BCN. Only one or two XMR holders have more than 2% of the supply. That's nowhere close to 82%.

Agreed that BCT is not the center of the universe. So can you show me an archive.org link that mentions bcn/cryptonote anywhere on the web prior to 2014?

It's the simplest thing.

This thread is about Monero. Your discussion about BCN and its 80% hoard is not. You are now being disrespectful.

Things you can do about it:

0) Start talking about Monero and how great/ungreat it is.
1) Make your own thread about anything you want. Maybe people will join the discussion.
2) Take your discussion to a relevant thread. If nobody wants to engage you, that's not our problem.
3) Delete your current troll account and try again with another, because you aren't fooling anyone.
4) Get a real job.

Welcome back to the XMR thread, where your BCN blather remains off-topic. Please be respectful and take your troll posts back to the BCN thread where they belong.

Checkmate!

Oh wait.. did you even read the thread at all? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=740112.0

The fact that you cannot find any reference prior to last year is pretty alarming evidence if you ask me. I won't even go into the false-dated white papers. If you're not a troll, you shouldn't be on these forums, because you will surely lose your money.

Ask yourself this: Can you find any evidence at all that the coin existed prior to last year? I mean, if it was launched in July of 2012 then there would surely have been mention of it somewhere on the web, right? So find an archive.org link from that period mentioning cryptonote and you will have proof.

Can't do it?

Which part of "faked blockchain" are you incapable of understanding? Either your onion-peeling skills suck (along with your reading comprehension), or you're a big fat troll.

The BCN devs hold all of the money. Ring signatures are pretty useless if a single party controls all the outputs. BCN is neither anon nor decentralized for reasons I already commented on, yet you conveniently skipped over.

I also think you're a troll because you're posting all this here (XMR thread). BCN is off topic, so please be respectful take your "inquisitions" to a BCN-specific thread.

Sabelnikov is not a pseudonym. http://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2012/01/23/microsoft-names-new-defendant-in-kelihos-case/

I also struggled with the idea that someone could care enough about privacy and decentralization to develop such a technology, only to resort to such an unambitious (and relatively unlucrative) scam. But I had the wrong perspective... it's not about money at all.

Bytecoin was a trojan horse... a power play for control. The unpolished tech didn't just appear out of nowhere by accident. It was underdeveloped by design... marketed directly to the hackers and the underground. Think about it... the black, 90s-style web site with the spooky MIDI music... the mysterious little encryption puzzles... These guys were trying to create a movement. "Let the anarchists and freedom fighters believe they can operate outside the system. Let them think they're anonymous. The joke is on them."

They planted a seed that they expected to grow like wildfire, only it didn't. Had bytecoin taken off as quickly as its developers had planned, the fraud would have been buried. Dark net markets all over the web would've picked it up, and the two year fake block chain would never have been discovered.

I don't think so. If that were the case, XMR would be on the rise. But I don't see very many bitcoiners diversifying into any alt, never mind LTC and NMC.

XMR price almost never increases with the alts. This is nothing new.