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361  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🍍Pineapple Poker| Experience Revolutionary P2P Poker on Telegram🍍 on: February 01, 2024, 06:02:33 PM
Welcome to the forum!

I have been seeing for quite sometime that gambling new ventures are now coming up with Telegram based casinos. I am not against those casinos or games, but my question is why? Telegram has a bad reputation of scams and such promotions will give anyone  with first hand impression that they are not to be trusted.

Why not try to invest some money on a self hosted website and hire a game provider and then promote it. Usually these kind of telegram gambling games don't get the usual hype as a self hosted, ready for marketing casinos get. Please stop coming up with such gambling products as you will hardly find any takers from the forum.

Telegram indeed has a bad reputation, but it also has a reputation of being one of the most used messenger applications by certain groups on the internet, one of them being the holders of Bitcoin and alternative currencies.
I don't know who came/arrived first to the application: the scammers or the legitimate cryptocurrency users.
There must be a reason why even Telegram has tried to implement Bitcoin, USDT and their TON to Telegram in the form of a wallet and explorer. I mean, there is even a P2P integrated in the application. So my best guess is that people behind Telegram realized many of their users are into Bitcoin and Alternative currencies.
If that is the case, then it makes sense a casino would try to step in this alledgely fertile land and see how it goes. Though, because of the reputation about scammers being completely true, this casino better have a very good security system and methodically scan their code or implement some bug disclosing bounty for white hat hackers to help them out, otherwise, this could end up being a bad experience for them and their users. Let us see how these kind of casinos go and how much time they stay up without the interference of authorities.

Obviously, I was wondering too because it is well known that telegram already got a bad reputation for themselves because of what scammers do on their platform.  Gamblers might likely avoid their games If they had already got a bad experience with the platform and would do everything to stay away and people like that who like poker but because of their experience with telegram would not think of this poker game but if it has a web version then it would be nice to engage.
It is true that telegram has the highest number of users in the world and as a matter of fact organisations would want to take advantage of the platform and to grow their various businesses while showcasing it to the world for services. All I would advise is that they strengthen their security so that scammers can not take advantage of their presence to rip off people of their hard earned resources.
362  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe visiting a seer or spiritual house could make you win a game? on: February 01, 2024, 05:40:02 PM
Let us discuss and share your experience so that people could hear and learn from your  story in the quest for you to win a game that led you to doing or going that extra miles in such engagement.
its very ridiculous that one would go to the extent of seeking for supernatural power just to win in a gamble. Do you really think supernatural powers works well for gambling?

Let's take soccer gambling for instance,  if for example you want to play that a particular country should win another and you want to use manipulative means to doing so, do you think that it would work? If supernatural powers works that much in instances as this then countries that believed more in supernatural powers would have won all the world's cup

Out of desperation, a person will actually do this. There is nothing that a man won't do if it means winning. For a person to look for a seer is still ridiculous but once a person loses enough money and has no other option, he may already look for ways to cheat.

But I think the seer has more wit to tell him to fuckoff. The seer knows that if a gambler comes to ask to give him some lucky charm for him to win in the casino, i doubt he can ever give a real lucky charm. These seers are scams, he can give him something but I doubt he can really win a life-changing amount. He'd pay more for that lucky charm than what hed win.

Truly, it is possible for a gambler who has always recorded loses to do this. More especially when the gambler is desperate to recover all he or she had lost in the cause of gambling. I have heard of stories about this type of scenarios where people go to see seers to help them but never returned the same way they went. Nothing goes for nothing. This is what people who goes there fail to understand. The price is always a costly one which can not be quantified with what they ought to seek help for at the seers place.

I think it would not be possible for a seer to tell a client to fuck off so easily when they are looking for who to patronise their services just to prove themselves. They would take your money as long as you have visited them and tell you what you want to hear and you go. If you think of threatening them, they unleash their fetish powers against you and that is the genesis of your problems.
363  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🍍Pineapple Poker| Experience Revolutionary P2P Poker on Telegram🍍 on: February 01, 2024, 03:16:01 PM
Welcome to bitcointalk platform. It is nice having you here. I will advise you upgrade your account to a copper membership so you could upload pictures of your poker game so that we could see for ourselves. I was thinking the link you dropped here would take me directly to the website but what I saw was a telegram bot upon starting the game, I was directed to link up with the website which took much time. Would it not be better you out up your website so we could access it directly rather than doing that through the Telegram bit as some people might not be comfortable with such settings here.
364  Economy / Gambling / Re: MetaWin.com | The First WEB3 Casino on: February 01, 2024, 11:54:09 AM
You have a good graphics and user experience is what I can not say much about because I had to load and reload the website on several occasions and still yet battling to get registered on your casino platform. I am very much sure my country is not in your restricted list because I can access the website without VPN which makes me comfortable to continue with the registration but still yet I am having issues to open the registration form. I think you have to look into this and resolve any possible error within your end.
365  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you believe visiting a seer or spiritual house could make you win a game? on: January 31, 2024, 10:19:23 PM
Some years ago in my country, a gambler seek for spiritual help to see the result of a match before the match starts. The guy became blind and that was why we read about what he did on the news. If he is not looking for spiritual help to look for money from gambling, he would not have become blind by now. It was a true story.

Some people may seek for spiritual help like astrologers or something related. They will give you the days you can gamble and win more and nothing should be more than that. But we have to be careful. The process of looking for money badly would be the process that something within you will mislead you.

My advise is to just gamble for fun without the help of spirituality.

I know this is not far from what i have been thinking. For sure, something of this nature does truly exist, and I was wondering what guts the young man had to go seek spiritual help just to win a game. possibly not have been told the repercussions of what he was about to sign up for because I believe he would have stopped and not moved any further because the price is too costly to get such a reward that would not last him any time soonest.
366  Economy / Gambling discussion / Do you believe visiting a seer or spiritual house could make you win a game? on: January 31, 2024, 07:07:38 PM
Recently, I have come across a post on this board that has to do with something related to superstitious beliefs and gambling. In the post, the poster was giving an instance where somebody's father gave him a game to play and he ignored it, and when the game ended, it happened that what he was given happened to be the result of the game, and the same thing repeated itself the second time where his father came again and asked him why he did not play the game and gave him another, which he failed to play again. However, I am meant to understand that some people go as far as visiting seers and the rest of the spiritual houses to help them play or see the outcome of the games they want to play so they can win big.

So I was wondering if there is any connectivity here, or do you believe such could happen in your own situation? Can you do such a thing to win? Have you had the experience of going to such places to seek predictions on how the outcome or results of games could be if they worked in your favor or not? Have you had anyone say or tell you such before and how their experience was?

Let us discuss and share your experience so that people could hear and learn from your  story in the quest for you to win a game that led you to doing or going that extra miles in such engagement.
367  Economy / Services / Re: I need a sms provider that works with Audible.com and most sites btc on: January 31, 2024, 05:12:17 PM
I have read through and have seen many recommendations for you OP. If I may ask do you really consider your privacy because if you do, you may not be talking about this but however, you just need to be careful because hackers might take advantage of your offer and would want to get information from you through you. Since you have created this thread, I believe you must have been receiving lots of pm If I am not mistaken.  I would advise you to be much careful not to be taken unawares.
368  Economy / Gambling / Re: My betting strategies on: January 29, 2024, 06:50:26 PM
Strategy or no strategy, who ever puts efforts sometimes in games does not win and sometimes it just happens that one team just all of a sudden begins to outshine the others. Things can just happen.that way. From the looks, I know this your strategy is pertaining to football games where teams and coaches watches out for their players either to reserve their players to win a better match ahead or they play to win the match. Although your strategy are quite alright but i tink I might not be feasible for others to. So in not be surprised if some other persons tries this and complains about it. Games just happens like that. If you win you win, if you lose you lose.
369  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can gambling addiction lead to domestic violence? on: January 27, 2024, 03:24:15 PM
Being addicted to gambling can be a thorn in the flesh. We have heard many bad behavior from gambling addicts that shows that gambling is a serious concern requiring serious efforts at curbing it. Many casinos also include in their disclaimer "gamble responsibly" and this shows the danger of gambling addiction.

However, I'm wondering if addiction can make someone become aggressive to the point of leading to domestic violence. Has there been any known case of it happening? Lets know what you have to say.

Of a truth I have witnessed cases of this nature where a man would want to sell  his property and his wife would refuse him from selling it because she knows he would use the money to gamble. It is unfortunate that such can happen and when such happens and the man meets resistance from his wife the next thing is that they both fight over it or he beats her up for the reasons of she obstructing or refusing him from selling the property.

In some cases, when the man returns home with anger to have lose funds in the cause of gambling, and his wife starts nagging around he transfers the anger and annoyance of losing the game and funds on her and sometimes display his rascality at home making his family become scared of him.
370  Economy / Services / Re: Raise.wf | IG / YT / FB & More | From $0.10 | PayPal & Crypto on: January 27, 2024, 03:12:18 PM
OP, if I am not mistaken, you have created a topic of this nature before and it did not go down well with you here and possibly you must have deleted it and coming to create such topic here again.  Your introduction is very poor to start with as you have nothing presentable and nothing tangible to hold onto. Your website is not convincing and can very discouraging to start with. Do you think members here would give to your offer or services when ever they visit your website to see foe themselves? Merely looking at your announcement thread here I lost interest in your services. I will advise you work on your website and make it more presentable to the audience.
371  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: gambling for fun vs gambling for the financial benefit. on: January 27, 2024, 02:27:44 PM

Do you really see gambling as more of fun than a means to a financial end?


Until you see gambling as fun, you will not stop to think of gambling as means of survival. Many people see gamble as a means of survival but only just few sees it a fun to do. There is this game older men play in my country and whenever they are seated playing this game called draft, their atmosphere is always lively and fun to be. You see them interacting with each others sharing knowledge and ideas too.


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how much can you put into gambling before it removes the fun aspect of gambling out of it?
I would prefer not saying it but I would just as a matter of time be brief. It is advisable to put in funds according to your pocket so you do not feel the pains if after playing and losing everything. I have a certain percentage for which I always gamble with and it is personal. For the fun aspect to go above or be removed, then I so.not think I would likely do that. I gamble within my budget and I also gamble responsibly.
372  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: January 27, 2024, 02:05:28 PM
That's a thought that often occurs to me, but I think they dare to take out a loan to gamble because they already believe that gambling can give them big wins. But even so, I don't think they should take out loans to gamble because it is a very risky money move. Maybe what's more clear is that they are addicted to gambling so they are willing to lose everything they have just to gamble. because in my opinion people who are addicted to gambling tend not to see the losses they will experience.

This happens a lot, I have even experienced someone selling their clothes in the middle of the night, with the current boom in gambling I reflexively think in that direction, many brands sell the goods they own just to gamble yes, it's none other than because of the hope they have that makes they are like this,  daring to take actions that take great risks.

Truly hopes, expectations and aspirations makes them do so. I just can not comprehend the force behind the actions. Some of them have the luck of winning after much games they have played and some are not lucky with their games it all points to them still putting funds for the game because they playing games can only be determined by the funds they have put in for the he to be played. With the aspect of using up things on them to gamble, I have no doubt about such because I have seen scenarios of such nature many times in bey houses were a gambler would use their phone, wrist watch and neck chain to gamble after losing all the funds they have put in for the game.

I am still very much curious the force that still holds them after still recording huge loses that should make  them take a break from gambling but they still continue gambling till they lose everything they had used for the game and are left with nothing to go home with.

In my opinion those who dare to take or carry out dangerous actions do so because of strong hopes that encourage them to continue gambling even though the gambling they do always ends in defeat. they dare to take the action of borrowing money to gamble in my opinion that is something that has gone too far, where they only think about their desire to gamble without thinking about the bad impact that could happen to themselves.

I don't think they will ever record their losses, because I think it's rare for people who gamble with them to record their losses, if at all I think those people are very careful. and I don't think it makes sense for them to record their losses, unless they record their daily expenses. In my opinion only they themselves know the strong reasons, and only they themselves know their motives for gambling.  even so, they will never easily realize that what they did was a big mistake that caused them to suffer big losses.

I am am also of the opinion that most of them with such gambling urge tends to go that extra miles to do the unthinkable as it pleases them to do so. Looking at gambling and loan at the same time, the both are very risky not to talk of taking a loan to gamble when you d not know how the end results would be if in your favour or against you.

It is true that only the gamblers can tell the reasons why they go as far as taking loans to gamble when they themselves know the repercussion involved in the game. That is why I do not bother asking questions anymore whenever I hear such complaints or information.
373  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: [WARNING] Spam Emails pretending to be OpenSea on: January 27, 2024, 06:53:23 AM
That is obviously a scam mail sent to you op. Of lately scammers have been sending mails across looking for who to ripp off their hard earned resources. I received mails of that nature as well but I never bothered but rather I delete them immediately so I do not have anything to do with them or mistakenly click on them for any unknown reason.  One just have to be careful these days as scammers are on the lose. As at last year, it was nft sent by these scammers claiming it to be e from opensea which is not true and if you are not familiar with the space you will be tempted to transact directly from your wallet where it is giving them access.  I believe this post would be of good importance to the newbies here to see and read so as not to fall victim for their gimmicks.
374  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Please Help on: January 27, 2024, 04:40:10 AM
Im not sure if I am been scammed and dont understand the terminology. I had an AI generated account with Benchmark. I have gained some profit and wish to withdraw, the transaction has been sent and confirmed and has a block number but is not showing in my wallet (TAP Account) i have now received an email to say that a company called Blockchair are holding the funds as I need to complete a Liquidity check as this is my first transaction but to do this i have to put 21% of the value of my transaction into my tap account and buy bitcoin, once this is done and verified then the funds will be returned to my personal account. I this actually a thing?
It is obvious that you have fell into the hands of scammers. The blockchair you mentioned here to the best of my knowledge is a blockchain tracker whereby transactions are being monitored to see to the end of their confirmation and other activities as well or did they mention there for you anything else they do in the body of their message via email sent to you? I see no reasons why you should be asked to make payment to verify you before you could withdraw or before your withdrawal comes in to your account.
It's tricky and possibly a scam attempt. Do not send them anything as they would scam you of your resources.
375  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is addiction bad only when it is a problem? on: January 27, 2024, 04:14:20 AM
I do not really conform to your ideology and this I think is out of the context of a supposed addicted gamblers characteristics. I have never encountered am addicted gambler that behaves just normal in the sense of having these features you have said. From experience, all the addicted gamblers I have known in the past do not exhibit the kind of character you have portrayed here to be but rather the opposite which I think this is likely to be an early addiction stage where the gambler feels he or she can control their excessive gambling lifestyle but when it becomes obvious, one can not control themselves, they begin to exhibit the character of an addict .
376  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The "loaded slots" scam on: January 27, 2024, 03:33:44 AM

I have always had the thought of games being won by chance and not by some one coming to tell me that they have some secret that will aid to win  to get rewards. I have never been in support of one asking for pay just to get signature.

those offering such service are more then likely scammers. trying to trick users because of the promise of easy money. anyway, they will soon find out that such promise is too-good-to-be-true. but usually, it is already too late as some may have shell out some of their hard-earned money already. sometimes you just need common sense just to feel that something wrong is about to happen.

I will have no doubt to agreeing with your idea that most or majority of those rendering such services are scammers pretend to be giving game signals for tokens and they ends up losing their money to scammers who have no idea what they are doing. Some of them are not what they say they are but rather just some sort of hyping to get at people. One thing I have come to realise is that people who are always desperate like them too and do not do their own due diligence are the ones that falls for such scam without knowing
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377  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The "loaded slots" scam on: January 26, 2024, 11:40:07 PM
I have always had the thought of games being won by chance and not by some one coming to tell me that they have some secret that will aid to win  to get rewards. I have never been in support of one asking for pay just to get signature.
378  Economy / Gambling / Re: MoonClub.com on: January 26, 2024, 11:04:01 PM
Welcome to bitcointalk platform. It is nice having you here. I must commend your website as the graphics is okay and I had to do a quick check on your website to see what you got and I checked your terms and conditions of service and I was as amazed by what I saw;

Does it mean that if you change your policy while in the course  trying to improve in your services you would not send notice or a reminder to know what aspects of your terms and conditions you effected changes. It is very disappointing to be seeing such on your website as a new casino but however,  you will still have time to improve on your services to God.
379  Economy / Gambling / Re: Responsible gambling on: January 26, 2024, 10:24:58 PM
Responsible gambler know what to do when it comes to gambling and you can tell a gambler to take a break when he is emotionally on that and mostly in addicted gambler, there in is no break for them and the only thing they know is continues gambling until their pockets are exhausted. Even the creating a budget for gambling can be only done by a responsible gambler and not for addicted gambler.

And since the addicted gambler can't do all those things you mentioned there, what is the advice you can also give to the addicted gamblers in the gambling industry? Now you have given to how a responsible gas mbler should play games in the hall or site what about the addicted ones?
My advice for gamblers addicted to gambling platforms would be to gamble responsibly. An addicted gambler can claim to be a responsible gambler again if he gambles responsibly. Responsible gambling must set a fixed income budget such that no more than 1 to 5 percent of income can be used. Gambling should be treated as entertainment. Gambling should never be considered as a means of earning.

I have asked few people around me that are gamblers as well about their perspective when it comes to gambling and addiction. This were their reply and it points towards gambling to earn. One told me that responsible gambling does not only entails one making out budget for gambling but rather gambling to earn because one can make out budget for gambling but still yet hoping on that budget to rake in profit for them which is not so. Once you mark out your budget for gambling, just have it in mind that you are gambling for fun because anything other than that is out of context. When you do that having it in mind that you are expecting some return on investment, you will be disappointed with the result you will get and in other to recover them back you will resolve to pursuing your loss and once that happens, you can not be able to control yourself and you will keep repeating it over and over. That is the beginning of ones gambling addiction which they can not control at the beginning.
380  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: CRYPTOLEAKS on: January 26, 2024, 09:53:27 PM
OP I am curious about your signal after reading replies and comments here. It is unfortunate that you would have these scores to settle before you think of going ahead because these accusations here I presume are somehow weighty which would warrant members to scrutinise you before thinking of patronising your services.
Nevertheless, I am not sure if you truly are a trader to give out signal or you belong to a telegram community where signals are shared then you go to your community d ask them to pay for signals and you share them wrong signals for trading  or how do you do that?
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