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361  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 06, 2014, 03:01:49 PM
so the first hour is done with just over 970 BTC in volume, (if you convert NXT and BTCD).
HO-LEE-SHIT!


how do you figure this? i am very interested in this statistic
362  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: September 06, 2014, 02:42:29 PM
Hmm... that was interesting (as predicted / discussed earlier):

After careful deliberation, we have decided to not participate in the SuperNet ICO. I understand that a large community is excited about SuperNet, and since we were initially announced as the ICO host, I wanted to take a moment to explain how we came to arrive at this decision.
 
For the past couple of days, we’ve been in discussions with our attorneys about hosting the SuperNet ICO. As several community members pointed out in this very thread, the sale of SuperNet tokens could be interpreted as the sale of unregistered securities. Our attorneys came to the same conclusion and have since advised us against taking part in the SuperNet ICO for this reason.
 
Further, one of our ICO requirements is identity verification (https://www.poloniex.com/icoRequirements); this requirement exists to protect investors and to lend credibility to the ICO. Despite several attempts to convince James the importance of revealing his identity, we were ultimately unable to reach an agreement that satisfied both parties.
 
We needed time for due diligence, to carefully assess the legal implications of taking part in SuperNet, and also the time to set up our backend systems to support it. James was very eager to get this going, however, so he chose to go with another host before we could communicate to him our findings and final decision.
 
We have since communicated with James, and we wish him the best of luck.

This worries me more. If he wanted to set up something legitimate, why doesn't he want to reveal his identity? Personally if I invested in this I would be more confident and less worried if I knew the identity of the man who set it up.

I believe he is worried about personal safety. I don't know what his plans are for crypto, but he has expressed a distrust for the powers that be... understandably so. we are not talking about opening a supermarket chain here, but rather revamping the financial industry. some may not like this


just a perspective...not right nor wrong

363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 06, 2014, 02:35:15 PM
This is a mess stop this immediately and refund people. this is not fixed price its changing price all the time!!! Please stop or this is not right!!!! what the hello about the 15 per cent you get for buying first day when the price change it, there was not indication price was going to change!! this is not an ipo!! please refund and start doing it right!!

you can't seriously expect a refund for not doing your due dilligence
364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 06, 2014, 02:34:20 PM
Both jl777 and BTER are idiots.   

Poor newb traders..



yes...poor traders who didn't take the time to understand what the price was set at. poor traders who blindly threw BTC at an overpriced asset



can't have much sympathy for them..but they will complain and leave a stain on supernet. this is why we can't have nice things!
365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 06, 2014, 02:28:59 PM
there is/was no clarity from the dev.

no price mentioned anywhere.
no explanation of how supply would be managed.

haah. i dont think he expected such a cluster.


it was posted numerous times
366  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 06, 2014, 02:25:06 PM
This is total chaos, many peeps not happy will be Undecided


well, i think some people need to be a bit more meticulous about what price they are buying in at...it is their fault for not exercising patience. there was no need for a stampede, but we are seeing people get run over for no good reason.


it's like black friday sales in the USA at walmart. People trip and fall in the rush and get stomped on...actually being physically injured. except in that case, there is a limited supply! there is no limit here. makes no sense.


O shit ... Bter told me the market price was 0.01790000. I buy at that price, five minutes later almost halve at 0.01090000

I lost a shitload of BTC over this. How can this happen!  Cry Cry

Bter should refund everyone who bought for higher prices, this is inacceptable.

that is your fault! it was very clear what the price was going to be.
367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 06, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
it will be interesting to see how much Supernet brings in compared to Ethereum. anybody know first day Ethereum sale numbers?

If you compare this 2 projects then I think you don´t understand either

no...no comparison between projects. i understand they are quite different
368  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What has jl777 created? on: September 06, 2014, 02:16:04 PM
To get a sense of whether SuperNet ICO is worth investing in, I've done a cursory search on Google for some of jl777's often-mentioned assets, including

PrivateBet: https://nxtforum.org/nxtventures/privatebet-fully-decentralized-peer-to-peer-betting/
multigateway: http://multigateway.org/    https://nxtforum.org/multigateway-jl777/mgw-assets-withdrawals-history/msg97324/#msg97324
InstantDEX: http://instantdex.org/wip/


to get a sense of his past performance prior to BTCD and the value of these assets he frequently mentions.

I cant seem to find much about any of this stuff on the web, including the NXT Forum.

Basic question is: exactly what has jl777 done - as in completed - besides his masterful stoking of BTCD's massive price rise?

At the very least, the question is whether this guy is spread thin and has fully finished anything he's started -- anything that stands as a significant innovation that's widely used? Assets that have value beyond their current market prices?

This thread seems more thoughtful, informed, level-headed and analytical than most, so I ask the question here.

he has completed Multigateway (MGW), a feature in the NXT platform


we will see what happens in the next month. people will either profit massively or lose everything. stay tuned...Teleport *should* be out soon


as for Supernet ICO...i am waiting. might throw in a BTC for fun, but it is a complete mess right now...
369  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] SuperNET - ICO conducted by BTER + ... on: September 06, 2014, 01:42:40 PM
it will be interesting to see how much Supernet brings in compared to Ethereum. anybody know first day Ethereum sale numbers?
370  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Sha-256/PoW-PoS hybrid/Bounty Opportunities on: September 06, 2014, 01:39:17 PM
Questions: Answers Would be very be very useful for those of us not up to speed with the terminology
surrounding this. This is really basic info that simply isnt easily available/understood. Most information is entwined
with a fair amount of tech talk buried in posts within posts of quoted posts. So, if anyone can answer these it
would be appreciated.


1: If I purchased with BTC I receive a 5% discount, but not with BTCD. Is that correct?

2: The purchased tokens can exhibit the same value fluctuations as any other crypto?

3: The income from this sale is used to buy other Cryptos which are to become part
of the superNET.

4: Or is it the income generated will be held in Escrow by some individuals. But held
for what purpose.

you don't get a 5% discount with BTC. you do with NXT/BTCD
371  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: rpietila Altcoin Observer on: September 06, 2014, 04:49:22 AM

keep your website up please! its an interesting perspective
372  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Sha-256/PoW-PoS hybrid/Bounty Opportunities on: September 06, 2014, 01:09:26 AM
what will happen with the BTCD/NXT that are used by people who purchase supernet asset?


so much catching up to do, maybe i will stumble across the answer eventually
373  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Sha-256/PoW-PoS hybrid/Bounty Opportunities on: September 05, 2014, 02:18:18 AM
Wow..... just wow.

I'm guessing you learned all your history in the US

they did a pretty good job at brainwashing (oops, i mean educating) us over here!


374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Sha-256/PoW-PoS hybrid/Bounty Opportunities on: September 04, 2014, 09:40:15 PM
almost halfway up page 2 of most views...attention is picking up with supernet
375  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [BBR] Boolberry: Privacy and Security - Guaranteed[Bittrex/Poloniex]GPU Released on: September 04, 2014, 09:06:57 PM
Quote
If I am such competition why am I so happy I help BBR 10x in a week?
Please understand crypto is in expansion phase, there are no competitions inside crypto, only fiat is the competition

I jus know that UNITY is better than this name callings

Edit:  I have nothing constructive or helpful to say in response.

i wish more people would share this honesty! it is very irritating to sift through the flame war that is so rampant in some of these threads
376  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency (mandatory upgrade) on: September 04, 2014, 05:06:18 AM
Don't panic!



FFFFUUUUCCKK!K!K!K!K
377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Sha-256/PoW-PoS hybrid/Bounty Opportunities on: September 02, 2014, 05:24:45 AM
i feel bad for you all that fall into this scam. the good part is I get to laugh  Grin


what is the scam?


checked out your post history...you're just loaded with intelligence!

in my book BitcoinDark is nothing but scam. what the crap is SuperNet Grin free BTC into creator pocket? i'll just wait to laugh really hard when all the dumb morons BTC disappeared! LOL
i give it 2 more months when all the dumb morons come down to earth and realized teleporte/supernet nothing but the scam ideas.  Cheesy


if you haven't noticed trolls and fudders don't have much impact here.

Moving along...


i'm quoting this so I can laugh my ass off in a couple months  Grin

i've laughs my ass off with darkcoin, cloakcoin and viacoin but Bitcoindark is the worst scam of all... teleporte, superwarp, supernet, umbrella net.... LOL the best sci-fi ever


just sold half my BTCD holdings...thank you!

your post history is full of enlightening commentary
378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Sha-256/PoW-PoS hybrid/Bounty Opportunities on: September 02, 2014, 04:26:59 AM
i feel bad for you all that fall into this scam. the good part is I get to laugh  Grin


what is the scam?


379  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Sha-256/PoW-PoS hybrid/Bounty Opportunities on: September 02, 2014, 04:19:48 AM
let the asks roll in....
380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] BitcoinDark (BTCD)--Sha-256/PoW-PoS hybrid/Bounty Opportunities on: September 01, 2014, 09:27:16 PM
Apologies if this has been discussed already. I've been out of circulation for a fortnight with almost no web access.
I'm curious about the economic effect of the ipo.

Ethereum has been blamed for sucking btc out of the system and causing a brutal bear market in the alts. Would this be the reverse of that? Btc used to buy selected anon-alts, significantly boosting their prices. Plus the supply/demand effect of tying up thousands of btc-worth of coins in cold storage. Alts like Litecoin get hit both ways - sold as a vehicle to buy SuperNET shares and then excluded from joining the network.

Thoughts?


i think coins lacking innovation will suffer, which is good in my opinion. like you said, coins that aren't part of SN might be sold by people looking for funds to invest with. some people will reject this, ie hodlers of forks. they will write off SN as some giant "ponzi scheme" or whatever terminology. which is also good; the crypto world doesn't need people who are afraid of change.


we're seeing technological innovation in this specific sector happening extremely fast (EXTREMELY!!). i think we'll see a fair amount of people and coins get flushed out with the advent of SN


adapt or perish...
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