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361  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Hillary Clinton Trustworthy? on: February 05, 2017, 02:39:23 PM
She is a psychopath you cant trust in a woman proud of being cheated by his husband and telling the womens to be feminists. Trump is a dump but at least he his consequent with is words and he doesn't change his speech through time.
362  Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: Necesito ayuda legal de la comunidad de Bitcoiners >:( (Venezuela) on: February 05, 2017, 01:56:44 PM
Por el momento lo mejor que podés hacer es irte del país, no vale la pena vivir en la miseria y paranoia constante, e intentar hacer algo puede costarte la vida y no servirá de nada. Lo mejor es eso, irte a cualquier otro país y esperar a que el gobierno Bolivariano se desterrado por completo.
363  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [New Thread] Ascendancy Scam - Follow the thread if you've invested on: February 05, 2017, 01:41:48 PM
I had 1500 Asc paid from SparkIt for my spanish translation thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1754738.msg17524626#msg17524626

I was paid in ASC the 29 of January.

Its only for investors if you're not an investor you are not part of the refund.

And who are you? Im investor, i can paid for ASC with money or with work, i paid my ASCS with work. My paid was also escrowed and someone needs to pay for my work.

Greedy much? I also translated into my language and don't want anything for the translation - you took a risk with providing your time for this project which turned to be a scam.

Greedy? I wasted a lot of hours with the translation and the videos for the video contest. The video contest was canceled so im fuck, but i was already paid for my translation and i had 1500 ASC so i want my money cause ALL the money in the ASC accounts was escrowed.

Yeah part of it was escrowed, but you'd be paid in ASC (if this wasn't a scam) not in BTC for your work. You can ask scammer to make a blockchain just for you to pay you your 1500 ASC he'll have plenty of time to develop something in jail.

You also be paid in ASC for you investment Smiley So is the same thing, the escrows are refunding you for the ASC you had.
364  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [New Thread] Ascendancy Scam - Follow the thread if you've invested on: February 05, 2017, 01:34:29 PM
I had 1500 Asc paid from SparkIt for my spanish translation thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1754738.msg17524626#msg17524626

I was paid in ASC the 29 of January.

Its only for investors if you're not an investor you are not part of the refund.

And who are you? Im investor, i can paid for ASC with money or with work, i paid my ASCS with work. My paid was also escrowed and someone needs to pay for my work.

Greedy much? I also translated into my language and don't want anything for the translation - you took a risk with providing your time for this project which turned to be a scam.

Greedy? I wasted a lot of hours with the translation and the videos for the video contest. The video contest was canceled so im fuck, but i was already paid for my translation and i had 1500 ASC so i want my money cause ALL the money in the ASC accounts was escrowed.
365  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [New Thread] Ascendancy Scam - Follow the thread if you've invested on: February 05, 2017, 01:28:41 PM
I had 1500 Asc paid from SparkIt for my spanish translation thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1754738.msg17524626#msg17524626

I was paid in ASC the 29 of January.

Its only for investors if you're not an investor you are not part of the refund.

And who are you? Im investor, i can paid for ASC with money or with work, i paid my ASCS with work. My paid was also escrowed and someone needs to pay for my work.
366  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2017, 01:25:45 PM
Goodbye 1100, hello 700.   Shocked

You are Hero Member and you know the cycles of bitcoin market movement, in the weekends the banks are closed thats why the volume goes down and a little price correction was expected. Anyway this dont cancel the upward trend.
367  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [New Thread] Ascendancy Scam - Follow the thread if you've invested on: February 05, 2017, 01:16:44 PM
I had 1500 Asc paid from SparkIt for my spanish translation thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1754738.msg17524626#msg17524626

I was paid in ASC the 29 of January, and the equivalent is 0.15 BTC. My address to receive refund: 1BEC3kMDeCNZiP2pwxKjRpQQbbS7Pat72X
368  Local / Mercado y Economía / Re: ¿Qué cryptomoneda comprar como inversión? on: February 05, 2017, 01:09:47 PM
Cualquiera de las alts con alto marketcap y comunidades grandes sirve para el caso. Llega un punto en que comprar bitcoins se vuelve caro para cualquier especulador mediano o chico, entonces la atención se desvía hacia las alts y estas tienen mucho más potencial de suba que el bitcoin, porque obviamente es mucho más fácil multiplicar por 2 o 3 una moneda con sólo una fracción del mercado del bitcoin.
369  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Proximo pump en... ( Actualidad Altcoins) on: February 05, 2017, 02:34:15 AM
En este momento todas las grandes alts son buenas candidatas, el bitcoin más allá de los 1200 dólares va a ser muy caro para el especulador medio y entonces la acción va a volcarse a las alts principales que podrían ver una gran demanda y sus precios dispararse. Para ver cuáles son las alts principales http://coinmarketcap.com/

Cuando pasa esto generalmente algunas altcoins bajan de precio.. y es el momento perfecto para comprarlas Smiley y aprovechar así despues que la carrera pase ganacias aunque este va lento.

En estos días hubieron alts con caídas pronunciadas, lo mejor es dejar una orden lista en poloniex a un valor entre el 15 y 20% menos del actual, así al otro día ya tenés la orden llena y podés esperar tranquilo la subida del bitcoin sabiendo que de cualquier manera vas a ganar plata.
370  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you eat a human? on: February 05, 2017, 02:32:38 AM
I will never eat an human. I'd rather die than eat a dead corpse. Why ? Because it is prohibited in the Holy Bible.

The holy bible also says greed is a sin, but here you are, speculating with virtual coins wanting to won a lot of money.
371  Local / Altcoins (criptomonedas alternativas) / Re: Proximo pump en... ( Actualidad Altcoins) on: February 04, 2017, 07:11:16 PM
En este momento todas las grandes alts son buenas candidatas, el bitcoin más allá de los 1200 dólares va a ser muy caro para el especulador medio y entonces la acción va a volcarse a las alts principales que podrían ver una gran demanda y sus precios dispararse. Para ver cuáles son las alts principales http://coinmarketcap.com/
372  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Would you eat a human? on: February 04, 2017, 07:01:59 PM
I dont even eat met, so is a very hard decision to make. Humans surviving instinct is strong and all depends on the situation.
373  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 04, 2017, 06:58:29 PM
Come on, we need more volatility  Smiley

BTC//^$1200 soon!!     Shocked    weeeeeeeee

Not to soon, but in the best case scenario if the markets hold for the whole weekend then we can see the price growing steady and hit the 1200 mark in the next week. But theres some big resistences at 1100 and 1150, so its better to not hurry and watch the show without getting involved just letting the Chineses do they work.
374  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [IPO LIVE] Ascendancy:Modular Decentralized App Framework IPO ENDS:10 March 2017 on: February 04, 2017, 06:16:52 PM
Let me get this clear.

Was it clear from the beginning that investors will send the BTC to the scamteam first and the scamteam said "we will forward the invested BTC every 8 hours to our escrowers"?
Are you kidding me? Then why do you fucking have escrowers? LOL... how stupid can someone be, to join this scam as an escrower, if this was the deal? The job #1 of an escrower is to get the money directly from the investors. If you don't follow this rule #1 as an escrower, then your are guilty in my eyes.
I would normally agree with you 100% but the escrow agreement was right there in front of everyones eyes to read. Everything was written in black and white. Its not as if the escrows tried to dupe anyone here. Everything looked to be running smooth. Btc was going to the escrow address like it should and then all the sudden a big rush came in. The Ascendancyteam decided to scam.


Another scam ICO in crypto. So sorry to all thise that invested their BTC on this one. Not all ANNs with nice, shiny pictures and worded texts can be really trusted these days.

Escrows, did you at least verify the identities of the scammers before you agreed to escrow for them?
I don't think that escrow really did this. nor I think doing this would really a duty of escrows. in first days the project was all looks legit. even they transferred the invested funds into escrow constantly before. they just scammed in the last 8 hours..

and if they were identified than they were be Identified for the investors also. not only for escrows.

Sadly a lot of the investors don't spend a lot of time digging thru all the details of the "projects" and of the identities of the scammers. And a lot just look at the people associated with it like escrows, campaign managers, and other more experienced, "trustworthy" members in here.

Look lutpin is campaigning / promoting this new coin being escrowed by yahoo, minerjones with fancy webpage & nice pictures. Then it might be good. Lol  Grin

Thats right, a lot of trusted members being the face of the project so people feel safe and invest money. If you see a police officer you asume its safe to enter that place, you dont expect to be robbed.
375  Economy / Speculation / Re: We'll be back to $13-14 by end of week. Know how I know? on: February 04, 2017, 06:08:54 PM
Poor the guys of this thread, a lot of suicides. Is not like the pizza bitcoins guy but they dont have nothing to envy.
376  Local / Trading y especulación / Re: ¿BTC-E Kraken o Bitstamp para tradear? on: February 04, 2017, 06:06:23 PM
Por lo que se BTC-E tiene políticas complicadas a la hora de los depósitos y retiros, y por eso su precio siempre se mantiene muy debajo del resto de los exchanges. Bitstamp y Kraken nunca los usé, pero ahora que Bitstamp implementó depósitos con tarjetas de crédito creo que voy a darle una probadita.
377  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [IPO LIVE] Ascendancy:Modular Decentralized App Framework IPO ENDS:10 March 2017 on: February 04, 2017, 01:08:39 AM
Nothing says funds would pass before to an adress not watched by the escrowers, which seems crazy and irresponsible. Why not simply an adress with a 3 of 4 keyholders ?
Escrowers seem legit but do lack responsability and on my part do not feel trustworthy for this activity that they do not practice properly.

That's common sense. If you see an address to send BTC to which is different than the stated escrow address. Guess what? It's not the escrow address.

See previous posts on responsibilities of escrows.

Where does it say the funds passed by an adress not controlled by the escrows ?
Nowhere ! And it changes everything.

It says very clearly in the escrow document: "All funds sent through our website will stay/be converted to Bitcoin if necessary. Bitcoin funds will be transferred over to the Escrow address every 8 hours in order to reduce the number of API requests."

Wheres that document? Why that wasn't declared on the first page of ann and why the three escrows trusted in a annon person? The escrows are going to lose all the good reputation they have if they dont refund everyone.

Google Cache: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:https://ascendancy.io/escrow.pdf

So there was no escrows at all, it was all pure negligence. "Hey im the escrow so you are safe, but I will not hold the funds, the funds will be hold by the annon person who is selling the coins". "Im the police officer, you are safe, but I will not stop the crimes, im just going to give the bad guy my weapond and hope that he dont kill anyone.".
378  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [IPO LIVE] Ascendancy:Modular Decentralized App Framework IPO ENDS:10 March 2017 on: February 04, 2017, 01:03:37 AM
Nothing says funds would pass before to an adress not watched by the escrowers, which seems crazy and irresponsible. Why not simply an adress with a 3 of 4 keyholders ?
Escrowers seem legit but do lack responsability and on my part do not feel trustworthy for this activity that they do not practice properly.

That's common sense. If you see an address to send BTC to which is different than the stated escrow address. Guess what? It's not the escrow address.

See previous posts on responsibilities of escrows.

Where does it say the funds passed by an adress not controlled by the escrows ?
Nowhere ! And it changes everything.

It says very clearly in the escrow document: "All funds sent through our website will stay/be converted to Bitcoin if necessary. Bitcoin funds will be transferred over to the Escrow address every 8 hours in order to reduce the number of API requests."

Wheres that document? Why that wasn't declared on the first page of ann and why the three escrows trusted in a annon person? The escrows are going to lose all the good reputation they have if they dont refund everyone.
379  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will The CIA Assassinate Trump? Ron Paul Warns Of "More Powerful, Shadow ..." on: February 04, 2017, 12:23:49 AM
Impossible, Trump is only demagogue and says what his people want to listen. Theres no big differences between Hillary and Trump aside from the speech. Trump has a very good support from all the sionists, its only a puppet like Obama and Bush.
380  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [IPO LIVE] Ascendancy:Modular Decentralized App Framework IPO ENDS:10 March 2017 on: February 03, 2017, 11:46:41 PM
Quite unfortunate and sad that they run away with investors money.Its time we should do something to prevent these scams or this will shake the investors confidence in all crypto projects Sad

Theres not 100% secure method, in this years we tried all. Dont you remember coinsource and the other Chinese site verifing the identity of coins staff? They failed hard. The next thing was using exchanges for the icos, and we got scammed by c-cex, bittrex, Cryptsy, and so on. And now the method is using the forum escrows, but its the same cause even escrows can be fooled.
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