I bought the account, so I wouldn't know what exchange it is. But it seemed much more probably from all the transactions that it is an exchange.

I was digging up some things, and here is a Solid example of this.

1.
https://blockchain.info/tx/058577bdcdeb4368940c0fb631a083f3e8eef5edad1fd765e6c5d9a4551d3ea8
In this transaction 1LuckyRd42yF6jLEvodcj8LT6VF1GEhJQk   sends to 19nH4oqV546NDHGAhQgNRSXJiGraD5mEt2

Now 1LuckyRd42yF6jLEvodcj8LT6VF1GEhJQk was used here : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=873587.msg10408527#msg10408527

The address it sends to 19nH4oqV546NDHGAhQgNRSXJiGraD5mEt2 , is probably his deposit address on Pocketrocketcasino .

PART 1: Lets Assume The personal who posted that address : Baro , requests for a loan to that address 19nH4oqV546NDHGAhQgNRSXJiGraD5mEt2


2. In this transaction : https://blockchain.info/tx/d698387aa7b2088fb618015400b583dae47239a5728f1503d9095ddb2d7e902a


We Know that 19nH4oqV546NDHGAhQgNRSXJiGraD5mEt2    and  1pBfXgrTKqW7EUTET3dg8quNjyB2fSREH are part of the same transaction and the owner has keys to both .

But lets have a closer look to the address 1pBfXgrTKqW7EUTET3dg8quNjyB2fSREH  .
We see it is also a deposit address on Pocketrocketcasino , as someone from Dicenow, requested a withdrawal to that address. https://blockchain.info/tx/9076dec8026d97ae09c8e6a8d7fd80ca71575b3c100a986925a38b658f8ad31a

PART 2 :
Now lets say another person Tacoman , a scammer requests loan to be sent to 1pBfXgrTKqW7EUTET3dg8quNjyB2fSREH  .




3. PART 3 : Now just because Baro , and Tacoman requested loans to their deposit addresses , and those addresses are owned by the same person, that is the website in this case, Quickseller is claiming Baro and tacoman are the same people.






Read Parts 1 , 2, and 3
Now how would Baro defend himself ? In this case Baro is Twipple and is being targetted.

This is going to be risky for anyone specially because you are selling it with a newbie account, and will not be able to guarantee that it doesn't expire before an year.

Quickseller Gave me this trust :

Now before I say anything, what I believe is that those addresses were in the same transaction as the spending addresses because the exchange or gambling site sweeped those addresses. I would also like you to read my second post on this thread, as based on his logic I prove how a user Baro is Dicenow,or someone with that address can have a case like this .  Keeping that in mind, here is why I think so:

Now at : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=924856.msg10255801#msg10255801
Twipple requested a loan on 25th Jan to the address 15ZX2yUZio9HeSWUeWubxznQyaYcYFBFzB .

This address has no previous deposit. And the loan amount was the first(which can be that its his newly generated localbitcoins or something like that wallet address). Also, it seems Twipple never used the amount until 1st Feb from the loan(which would be weird), but I feel its the sweep that was done then, and Twipple would have got the balance elsewhere like you do in an exchange. Now Quickseller claims Twipple account to be an alt of tacoman, and belives it was dumped or gotten rid of on purpose by defaulting on the loan , Now If Twipple wanted to get rid of the account, he would easily sell it for over 0.05 , instead of going for a loan of 0.025, which probably could mean a loan for gambling and he lost it, hence didn't pay back.


Now the other address used by tacoman : 1Fz6xXind3Kovsw4ArW6u7oMXRZTUSBj1G
Has transactions , like you would do in an address that is usually a deposit address to a site. Even the single transfer out of that address  https://blockchain.info/tx/bfd3ec181aeae8abd8da9e63f6c4772ff8fceb6d4c0f3472cac66b6c77649353
goes to 1MmVUQEtwWXgQV9WKhL6sKPBDENJgBkoqn , which has a mixer/Exchange kind of pattern.


The third address he mentioned https://blockchain.info/address/1Fo6Uy8JWnV9SnDM5LBnYA8nnCQgbfbyDT , is also like an exchange address with inputs and outputs to addresses, with only 2 transactions like in an exchange.

So basically none of the addresses are actually like personal addresses which would have normal transactions .All of them maybe under the control of a single entity(the exchange or a gambling site) , but they show no signs of being under a person based on the transactions. Also, this is the only transaction, that they have been used in together, with no other transaction occurring together or elsewhere.

If it was one individual in control of the private keys, then he would not be only using this for that one particular transaction, and its almost certain thats it the exchange which had them under control.

I sent it to Quickseller, but he just arrogantly refused to accept it, and also blocked me from PM. And replied back with a quote  
When you buy an account, you are buying the reputation associated with the account.

"You should be more careful about what you spend your money on in the future.  Clearly purchasing a forum account was a bad idea."  which is basically what he has always done.

I want to know what you guys think of it. I had bought this account from Ume in an auction, who sold it after the original account defaulted on a 0.025 loan. I even started a scam accusation towards Ume for other things, and all this was before receiving the negative trust from Quickseller on Twipple 2 months later.


See the other post on this thread as a follow up: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1035687.msg11171949#msg11171949

I have a question about an address involved in a transaction.
Please let me know if this is a possibility.

If I have a deposit address to an exchange or gambling site: 15ZX2yUZio9HeSWUeWubxznQyaYcYFBFzB

https://blockchain.info/address/15ZX2yUZio9HeSWUeWubxznQyaYcYFBFzB

And that address has an outgoing transaction : https://blockchain.info/tx/d515a082b1df9b515e8f826cae84f41629183f26575bd014ba3d32ecddc9b633

Now you will see that 3 addresses are involved as senders.
19t4Cp3ftH3XTu6c4HhHTTpRP9TxDJVz87
15ZX2yUZio9HeSWUeWubxznQyaYcYFBFzB
1Fo6Uy8JWnV9SnDM5LBnYA8nnCQgbfbyDT

Now could it be possible that these addresses belong to an exchange which is just sweeping coins to one single address, from those 3 different addresses ?

I doubt it will ever happen, like someone said it will only coexist. For bitcoin to exist, there is a strict necessity of having the internet , and thats a main thing it relies on. Also there is no way to replace all the existing dollar system for the bitcoin

No thats not my argument. My argument was , that just like the account Pagalwana, my account was bought after someone defaulted on a loan, and it was auctioned by Ume(who I started the scam accusation against). 2 months later you gave it a negative trust, to which I provided you all the proof of everything.
But you never listened or replied or even cared about it.

The same thing happened with the account pagalwana, and irfanpak contacted you for the account sale. You readily agreed with him to sell his account and removed your negative trust.

I am now in a losing situation on both ends, as I bought the account from Ume, and it was also me who started the scam accusation against him from my original account. And because of your negative trust on this account, Ume got to know who was the buyer for this account, and will not agree to refund me the money. 

I wouldn't be surprised if thats the actual case. I recently saw Quickseller negative rep another account pagalwana,, who also defaulted on a loan , and after a scam accusation negative repped the account.
But after the person who loaned him the amount contacted QUickseller to sell it, probably for the escrow fees, Quickseller agreed to remove the negative trust and escrowed the sale for the seller.

I haven't offered the same deal or to pay him some money for it, probably why he wouldn't remove it, despite providing all the proof, and the negative trust given by him a month later after I bought the account.

This is ironic too, Quickseller recently neg trusted my account , when clearly I bought it through an auction , and provided all proof. The original owner dumped the account after taking a loan. Even then QUickseller didn't remove the trust, despite me providing all the trust.

With him doing all these things to catch scams and acting like a scammer himself, could be too much power given if he intends to run a scam in real, and he can simply give it as an excuse, that he was trying to catch a scammer and was not actually looking to scam.

I thought the satoshi dice was under a different management now, and under different owners. If its a new owner, I would suggest not investing in it, for obvious reasons that you shouldn't invest in online casinos under bitcoin.

Ok, But I provided you the same proof. I even started a scam accusation against the seller , and his alt accounts for trying to scam and giving fake trust ratings to himself, all this before you gave me a negative trust rating after 2 months.
I even provided you the messages, and the transactions. I am also open to the admins doing an IP check and what not , to make sure of it. What other proof did you need for it then ?  I don't even see you open to conversation about the trust rating and the scam accusation on the other guy.


But it still doesn't really make him a scammer. I still feel in these cases you should warn them, or leave a neutral trust rating as long as they didn't scam anyone. By giving them a negative rating, you completely remove them from the forum, as they are no longer able to participate in anything, and lose their reputation. The forum isn't a quicksell buy, place where everyone just buys new accounts to post and start a business if their previous account has been given a negative trust.

Its good to question these things and the fact that there can be so many risks to the escrow.
May I ask why you left the risk exist for an account pagalwana , which you recently escrowed ?
and risked the buyer getting a negative feedback(which he did now) ?

From what I saw , this scam accusation was started https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1005463.0
I saw, You then left a negative Reputation to pagalwana. But a few days later, you removed the negative rating, and escrowed the account for a selling deal, without probably(or maybe) informing the buyer about the risk of getting the negative rep again(which he now did).

Also, I don't see the reason why would you leave a negative rating on this account ?  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=152819   . Didn't the trust rating system change recently ? And shouldn't that be a neutral trust rating, rather than a negative rating ?
If that user didn't want to use an escrow its his wish, and its the buyers risk to not trade with him . But just doing that doesn't make him a scammer to deserve a negative rating.

Don't consider this post a get back to you for the negative trust you gave me . Just that I provided more than convincing evidence to prove I bought this account. Even then you did not even care to reply half the times, and refused to remove the rating, despite the fact that I started a scam accusation against the person who sold me this account before your rating came into place. And now I see you go ahead and remove a negative trust from another similar instance and account, and you even went ahead to agree to escrow to sell it.

If you also think about it, there have been a lot more jobs than we can imagine.
Jobs within ISIS, for someone to help them, with their ransoms, and setting up bitcoin storages etc. There are a lot of other jobs as well/ Conferences/Silk road cases/etc which are directly a result of bitcoin. So there is no way to estimate it.

From the previous trends it has only been clear that after almost every fall there is a rise. But not if say it drops from 600 to 200 . Right now it dropped to the lowest it can probably go to , I expect the same for this time.

Your confirmation on the blockchain does not depend on Nitrogensports , unless they send it with no fees. But they do send it with fees, so its not their fault. Blockchain does take longer sometimes to confirm transactions.

I wouldn't be surprised if you are not paid. girlbtc, created a thread a few days back, about why investment casinos run away with the money. He felt that despite a lot of effort they put in, they don't get paid very well. And He felt they(him probably included) deserved the money, and so they resort to scamming.

I don't think they can. Server seeds are usually generated randomly by these gambling sites, and each user should have a unique seed. Did Stunna confirm, that 2 accounts had the possibility of having the same server seed ?

I also had a withdrawal today. Took about a minute after I requested it, so I would call it pretty much instant.

Yes, its just a manual withdrawal, as its a large amount. Site owners just make it manual to make sure that users won the money in a fair way.

I feel the problem is that a lot of people are sensing that it was a ponzi, and is towards the end of its term. So people are trying to get out while they can. But since you are selling at 1/3rd of the price, it is definitely lower risk. However the fact still remains that the whole cloudminr operation could be a ponzi, so if anyone buys it, should be made aware of the fact.

For the normal users, I would suggest offering atleast 0.01/week for around 15 posts. You got 1 BTC from moneypot. You are just offering around 0.002/week, for an avatar, which I believe is more appealing to the eyes than a signature. But in the end you or moneypot is to decide.