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3601  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 10, 2014, 08:04:58 AM
24 hours until the war.
http://rt.com/news/kiev-forces-eastern-ukraine-512/

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Activists expect the military operation to take place overnight in Donetsk and Lugansk simultaneously. Local administration in Kharkov was already stormed on Tuesday by armed men without insignia and masked law enforcement officers, after the local police in Kharkov refused to fulfil orders from Kiev.
3602  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Greystone / Blackwater in New Republics in Eastern Europe. on: April 10, 2014, 07:55:04 AM

They should abduct some of these English speaking mercenaries and then parade them before the media. That will show the world who is actually fermenting the trouble in Ukraine.

Easier said than done. From mobile video recordings and live feeds that 247crypto linked to, you can see that those forces are either transported in tightly-sealed buses, surrounded by Ukrainian military, or shunted right to the back upon unloading, with Ukrainian military forming a buffer between them and the protesters. They are treated like family jewels, or prised hounds, to be unleashed at a later point. In the meantime they are kept as damage-free as possible.

I think the only way they'll be paraded before the media, is in plastic bags (if the stand-off comes to that). So far they've only been confronted with people armed with videocameras.

A racist warning below:
When one of the protesters spotted a black-skinned soldier in a bus, he cried "can I pet the monkey". Ukraine in general and their armed forces in particular are rather homogeneous white, so any black soldier immediately stands out.
3603  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 10, 2014, 07:48:06 AM
Georgia's ex-general Tristan Citelashvili stated that snipers shooting to kill on Midan were from Georgian ex-president's Saakashvili's guard, and that he knows the names of those four Georgian snipers

Is Saakashvili still alive? I am sad that the Ukrainians haven't learned anything from what happened to Saakashvili. The US used him, and later dumped him. The same will happen to all those anti-Russia types in Kiev.

Not just alive, but also kicking. He was on Maidan, giving flaming speeches not long before the violence from the "protesters" started. Coincidence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD14Uip6FOo


By the way, I should have written "retired general", not "ex-general".
3604  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 09, 2014, 08:51:28 PM
Georgia's ex-general Tristan Citelashvili stated that snipers shooting to kill on Midan were from Georgian ex-president's Saakashvili's guard, and that he knows the names of those four Georgian snipers:

http://www.interfax.ru/world/370642



And Russian jokes the day:

In Oval Office:
- Mister President, we have a good and a bad news.
- Start with the good one.
- Crimea is back with Ukraine.
- Yess!!! We've finally pushed those Russians! And the bad?
- The whole of Ukraine joined Russia.

 Grin Grin Grin

200 years ago everyone studied French, and we reached Paris.
70 years ago everyone studied German, and we reached Berlin.
Now everyone studies English... Maybe they shouldn't try their chances...

 Grin Grin Grin

Good Evening! Weather forecast for Russian Federation for tomorrow, the 27th of October 2020. Tomorrow will see varying weather. In Moscow, Saratov, Paris, Milan and Syzran - plus 18C. In the regions of Amazonas, in Volgo-Vjatsk region, in Brasilian Autonomous Republic, Chilian Autonomous Region and Ust-Buenos-Aires - plus 27-29. In China, Burjatia and other regions of Siberia - up to 25. And finally about the weather abroad. In Lviv - plus 17. Have a nice evening.

 Grin Grin Grin
3605  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Greystone / Blackwater in New Republics in Eastern Europe. on: April 09, 2014, 08:34:50 PM
They might still be hoping to place a NATO base there....

An Op-Edge in RT with anti-war activist Daniel Patrick Welch:
http://rt.com/op-edge/foreign-mercenaries-in-ukraine-373/
3606  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 09, 2014, 05:31:26 PM

Unless someone can identify the location by those houses, that video could have been made anywhere in Russia. Not enough information.

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Опубликовано 08 апр. 2014 г.

Снято в Белгородской области 8 апреля. Российские вертушки летят помогать украинским пограничникам охранять границу от агрессии))) Низко летят, к дождю))

Belgorod region

We have only the uploader's word for it. Need more references in the video itself.
3607  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 09, 2014, 05:28:13 PM

A kind good-bye to one of the Presidential candidates who visited Lugansk  Grin
3608  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 09, 2014, 05:25:21 PM

Unless someone can identify the location by those houses, that video could have been made anywhere in Russia. Not enough information.
3609  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Greystone / Blackwater in New Republics in Eastern Europe. on: April 09, 2014, 04:34:00 PM
http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-violence-threats-405/
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A journalist of Russia’s Lifenews TV channel reported from the central square of Kharkov that according to evidence witnessed by the local citizens, some police officers dressed in uniforms of the Jaguar riot police task force seem unable to understand when addressed in either Ukrainian or Russian. They reportedly communicate with each other in English.
3610  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 09, 2014, 04:04:46 PM

Right Sector youth urges to slaughter in Odessa. (Imported from Kiev?)

Odessa  has always been a multi-national and tolerant town, both in the Russian Empire and after it was given to Ukraine by Lenin in 1920-s. What the nationalists are doing there is going to backfire!


Airmobile brigade from Dnepropetrovsk moves out in the direction of Donetsk.
3611  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 09, 2014, 02:24:05 PM
http://rt.com/business/putin-ukraine-economy-gas-353/

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Russia can’t continue to prop up Ukraine’s faltering economy, and this responsibility should fall on the US and EU, which have recognized the authorities in Kiev but not yet given one dollar to support the economy, President Putin said.

 Grin Grin Grin
3612  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 09, 2014, 02:17:20 PM
Ouch-time.

http://rt.com/news/eastern-ukraine-violence-threats-405/

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In Kharkov about 30 percent of policemen refused to storm the administration. Avakov has already announced that they will be fired.

A journalist of Russia’s Lifenews TV channel reported from the central square of Kharkov that according to evidence witnessed by the local citizens, some police officers dressed in uniforms of the Jaguar riot police task force seem unable to understand when addressed in either Ukrainian or Russian. They reportedly communicate with each other in English.

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“We represent veterans of Afghan campaign, former border guards and other peaceful trades, and we have just a single legitimate demand: we want a referendum,” the statement says.

“This is expression of the will of the people – and we want to be heard,” the group stated and strongly recommended “not to mess with active duty officers.”

“If you go against us, welcome to hell. We’ll make a decent stand. Godspeed, officers!” the manifesto ended.

Ukrainian presidential candidate Sergey Tigipko, who arrived in Lugansk and conducted negotiations with the activists who barricaded themselves inside the SBU headquarters, confirmed that all activists are Ukrainian citizens.

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Irina Farion, an MP of nationalist Fatherland Party, went as far as calling for the deaths of citizens in Donetsk, Kharkov and Lugansk.

“I’d act much tougher. I’d just shoot them dead. Look, the enemy is ruling our land. What are we talking about? They should be expelled from here back in 1654 (the year Ukraine aligned with the Russian Empire). That’s why today’s reaction is unacceptable. The measures should be much tougher. Our people laid down their lives. That’s why those creatures that arrive here deserve only death,” Farion proclaimed.
3613  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 09, 2014, 01:58:29 PM


 Grin

This is a scare message from some Sergej Leshenko sayng that "Kremlin separatism" is impossible without support from local population, and thus Kiev government needs to explain the consequences of this region turning into another Transnistria (though he must be confusing something here Cheesy )

1. There'll be no offices of the major Western banks
2. No MacDonald's and other Western outlets
3. No visum-free travel to Europe and harder getting visas (as if Ukraine will ever be visum-free)
4. Ukraine will be importing coal from outside then buying from Donbass, so your coal will not be needed by anyone (what a load...)
5. Their football teams will not be playing in EU cups
6. Planes from the world to Donetsk and Harkov will need to go via Moscow (huh?)
7. Their children will need to serve in Russian Army (there is a joke now, that parents of men serving in Ukrainian army need to supply food, or their children will be forced on a three-meal system - on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays)
3614  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Catalonia independence vote rejected on: April 09, 2014, 01:31:55 PM
I wonder if Catalonia really need it.

Also how many people leaving there really want it.

That's what a referendum would have found out. Yet, the central government is scared of it, so their fears that the region that feeds the whole Spain will secede must be justified.
3615  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donetsk, Kharkov, Lugansk - way to Russia. on: April 09, 2014, 11:14:55 AM
APCs from Ukrainian armed forces have arrived in Lugansk from Dnepropetrovsk. Army ans special ops can receive orders of firing sharp rounds at the protesters:
http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1108178?utm_medium=rss20
3616  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Crimea on: April 09, 2014, 10:14:46 AM
Crimean Constitution draft ready:
http://rt.com/politics/crimea-constitution-russia-standards-361/
3617  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 09, 2014, 09:34:07 AM
Support from German intellectuals:
http://rt.com/news/germans-support-putin-ukraine-265/
http://www.nrhz.de/flyer/beitrag.php?id=20163
3618  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 09, 2014, 08:30:35 AM
Americans are getting ready:

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Another American military ship will soon arrive for deployment at the Black Sea as the Ukrainian crisis continue, Derek Chollet, the US Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs told the House Armed Services Committee.

http://rt.com/news/us-destroyer-black-sea-289/
3619  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Catalonia independence vote rejected on: April 09, 2014, 08:27:47 AM
NATO should intervene and bomb Madrid to free Catalonia... Oh, wait. NATO already have a military base in Spain. Nothing to do there. Democracy and self-determination is already achieved. Move along.
3620  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Meanwhile in Ukraine... Revolution. on: April 08, 2014, 09:07:04 PM
This one is a bit "old", but I just discovered it an it gave me good laugh, courtesy 2DF from Germany.   Grin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Xz-dTTRgY
(Select "Translate captions" in the video and YouTube will translate Russian Captions to English on the fly.)

We all need a few laughs in these darkening times...

Damn... Watching it... They hit it spot on in that program!

Google-translated Russian subs from the show
Code:
" Madhouse "
- To the barricades !
- Mr. von Wagner ?
- Mr. Utof ,
as you walked past the barricades ?
- I rode the elevator !
- That's what happens when you have to make a barricade barrier-free ,
Mr Tymoshenko !
- I ...
- What are you actually doing?
You ... What are you doing here ?
What are you here at all staged ? Paralympics what?
Seven days - seven locks ? Or what?
- Is not it seen ? We make revolution!
- Yes, stop , you only grows dull with the people !
- Well, it has proven its effectiveness in popular uprisings !
- Just come k ..
Tell me,
why is there something Russian lettering on transparency ?
- Solidarity with Ukraine !
- Yes -ah !
- It's time for our citizens carrying in their hearts the fire of the revolution ,
and dare these corrupt elites !
Yes -ah !
- And that you that you want to achieve production of the musical "Les Miserables" ?
- Remember, " you have to get to dance the petrified order,
singing them their own tune ! "
- Superb! Andrew Lloyd Webber ?
- Karl Marx !
- And these here - who?
- All - ready to fight the rebels ! Allow me to introduce Comrade Pussy ,
and this - Comrade Pussy .
- Busse ! [ name of the actor in the role of Tymoshenko ]
- Yes, exactly !
- And it's there for the right type of sector?
- We prefer not to find out for sure , but it took us weapons !
- Stop !
Have you forgotten who we are?
- No, we're invaders madhouse !
- Right, share fanatical Democrats.
- Brief - NPD ...
No, better leave a long name ... [ AFD - abbreviation right elective unit in Germany - " Alternative for Germany" ]
- And we are here to objectively explain behind the policy .
- Let me guess, he is responsible for a good mood ?
- Mr. Utof , this time you will not extinguish our revolutionary fire!
Is not it, guys?
- Look, do you really think
today such important things, like revolution , Trust volunteers - lovers like you ?
- We are not lovers ...
Okay, we're here as volunteers , but we do not ...
- Volunteers ? Without money ? We agreed to another !
Disagree !
- What did he say ?
- You can walk !
- Miracle !
I can walk !
- Mr. von Wagner ,
revolution, as in Ukraine, today organized by professionals
that's it, for example!
- Yes, Vitali Klitschko , this is revolutionary !
- You ever heard his fluent ?
- Do not be biased, he wore the same lifetime protection on the teeth.
- I mean , he's not even really in Ukrainian
can not speak, but wants to become president !
- C'mon, as a citizen , I too would be happy , if not
understood every word that says Hauk . [ President of Germany ]
- Forget ...
Remember this puppet fund them . Konrad Adenauer Foundation , a pro - right
John McCain , a former presidential candidate . In December, on the Maidan .
- McCain ? What's he doing , french fries ?
- He and his foundation for a long time working to make Ukrainians
Democracy is compatible with a market economy , a pleasant taste.
- Yeah, just sick of them ...
- Yes, when sick than directly to the West !
- Americans have invested in a coup in Ukraine
a total of 5 mrad . dollars ...
- Yes, it's Putin says so !
- No, Victoria Nuland !
- Fuck you!
- Fuck the EU!
- Look at what I did in December on Independence
Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs of the American ...
You just look like an American baker Ukrainian revolution !
Just imagine it's the opposite :
Putin goes to the movement " Occupy Wall Street "
hodgepodge distributes billions of dollars ,
and then stood up and said : "Mr. President , tear down this Wall Street! "
[ reference to Reagan's speech , and then Yatsenuk " tear down this wall " - "Tear down this wall!"]
- Well,
- Well, now we have made ​​it clear that bad - it's the Americans ,
Well that Russian can just attack a sovereign state ?
You'll probably become to explain that there are only Russian carnival note
" Russian Monday" in the Crimea?
[" Russenmontag " - " Rose Monday " - " Pink Monday" - the peak of the German carnival ]
From a military form of ... of ...
of carnival store!
Putin doing the lambada , seizing Ukraine with ass !
You know what I tell you ?
Russian ... what they 've done there - is a violation of international law !
American Foreign Minister John Kerry famously said : " Under the false
pretext to attack the country to push their own interests. "
- Excuse me, can I still hear this sentence ?
- Yes, of course , so: " Under the false pretext
attack on the country to push their ... "
[ Title: " These weapons Saddam ! "]
Fuck you!
- Language of Diplomacy ...
slightly injured in an era propaganda. When all the points
the war, most willingly listen accursed voice
ie everything that reveals to us the Russian secret service .
On the lips of the imperialists , the members of Western governments
there flies freely thinking about how
they imagine the future of Ukraine , or
who actually shot on Independence .
German media usually do not really know about it ,
because they are too busy with their shortwave
radios searching for those which news that
confirm their prejudices about the " evil Putin ."
So lush color bloom comparison with Hitler.
But comparisons with Hitler should not forget that not everyone who is lame - Goebbels .
Needless to say that Frank-Walter Steinmeier , our new Minister -
Best German Foreign Minister Guido Westerwelle, from the time
[previous minister , until recently ]
Steinmeier , our four diplomat already
Munich Security Conference ordered
democratically elected president of Ukraine , he
should immediately recognize all the demands of the demonstrators .
Yes, it has a long tradition in our country , we have every protest
movement, which has no time to hide, is recognized immediately .
After it warms up conflicts and good for our arms exports .
Actually , it is unpleasant :
Our foreign policy has been suffering from " premature escalation ."
But what impact has our minister !
There a few months the people stand in the cold, then a shot is fired , the blood flows ,
and only when approaching danger speech has Steinmeier
all quickly come to the table and sign .
Frank- Walter Steinmeier, also signed the agreement ,
yes he did all signs !
I'm afraid to even imagine how many magazines he had already subscribe !
And then he enthusiastically shaking hands of the Nazis from the party "Freedom", and wonders
that this agreement has been violated through this dark hour rabble .
I think it's worthy of the Guinness World Records :
just five weeks after the renovation of German foreign policy
Nazis sat in the Ukrainian government .
It has never worked out so well to see how the West instrmentaliziruet
country if the new globalized trade and entertainment center .
IMF ...
IMF Yanukovych suggested several billion , only when
provided that it will raise gas prices by 40% to the market level .
But this could not accept even a greedy jackass as he ;
and immediately at full power unwound International PR.
Then you should not be confused , this is not some conspiracy theory
it is common practice conspiratorial .
There's frost on the Maidan months their asses demonstrators and that they will receive as a result ?
Higher gas prices !
Well, yes, dear Ukrainians , this is the side effects of freedom.
Actually, I would like here to protect Putin
it may also have interest,
he can also get out of yourself if NATO , breaking all the promises chosen closer ;
but then I saw that his friend , Schroeder, it is protected ,
with remarkable argument : " I did then, too
bombed Serbia in violation of international law ,
and so now do not have to face [ Putin ] finger . "
Well known, Schroeder has always shown the middle finger to international law .
but now
I'll have to change his mind , because if history has taught us anything , and then this :
if Schroeder finds something right , it's right can not be .
- And so ...
Sorry, you do not see what else I 'm saying?
- Excuse me, Mr. Utof , of course, we find it very important that
as you cast your citizens in granite satirical statement.
- In the granite did not cast !
- That's right, and I mean , finish with their
florid phrases, we want to finally rolled to head!
- Exactly!
- Why not , we have here the guillotine.
- Oh, I can not look at the blood !
- Do not worry, we have it from the society " Humane decapitation ."
Now I want to hear your suggestions . Who are you going next ?
- Yanukovych Yanukovych !
- What's he charged with ?
- He oppressed his people !
- Yes, exactly !
- But he was chosen by his people ...
- Yes , the OSCE is also said ...
- Come on, if we were to get rid of every democratically elected representative
who do not like our people , then we would have to go back to the polls ...


 Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed

On a sad note:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d55B3OGLj-Q
These medics describe how medicaments and medical equipment was extracted from hospitals and driven to "remote storage" in huge volumes, while they desperately needed said medicaments to treat the wounded from Maidan. They wonder if that was done specifically to increase the number of dead and to escalate the situation.

 Cry Cry Cry

Terrorist operation "peaceful demonstrators":
In German: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaoI3x6GmQY
In Russian: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Oed2DDOi7A
German mainstream media (as the rest of the West) was portraying Yanukovich as a monster who ordered to slaughter his people, while  the footage above disproves that notion, showing that the police was under strict orders not to react to provocations on to maintain defensive positions.
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