But service operator can just reject requests made with this ID (i.e. block all users who have enabled it in the browser). That's just plain silliness. A service and its potential users can eternally play this game of technological whack-a-mole but to what end? Eventually there would be no users of the service. Now you can create a Firefox add-on that randomizes the fingerprint instead of making them all the same. Or even better, create plausible counterfit fingerprints. What's next? Are people really going to go through that much effort to get an extra 0.001 BTC/day? Maybe a few, but most won't. As giantdragon says, each step of difficulty means fewer people will be doing it. It won't eliminate cheating completely, from those who are very persistent about it, but it helps deter some cheaters. It's like saying, why bother building a fence around your property? People can still hop the fence and get in. Why bother putting barbed wire on top of a fence? People can still put heavy clothes on top of it to get over it. Or they can cut through the chain link fence. Therefore, we shouldn't build fences at all. |
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Color me confused but.... you're going to acquire advert slots to filter out unnecessary adverts? What will your advert slots say? How will this help you filter out unnecessary adverts? Why wouldn't your own adverts be considered unnecessary.
And finally, if you consider a tiny bit of text at the top of the page in 10 point font to be so bothersome that you feel you have to create a donation pool against it, well, I feel sorry for you man. You must go through life hating everything around you, since just about all of it is inundated with more advertising than is seen on this forum.
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What does "sucked out" mean?
I play there from time to time. I am not a pro poker player, nor do I play often. It works just fine for me, I guess.
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assuming all these orders will be used for bitcoin mining as well. There are several other opportunities for hashing.
Uh, no, not so much. Not for these BFL units at least - they can only work the Bitcoin stream because the firmware is locked (or better said, it is undocumented how to develop firmware for it). |
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Looks like we've had a few more signups. Keep 'em coming!
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If his name is Trendon, don't sell to him.
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Did you read the links ? I'm about 95% sure thats exactly what he has  We are building a massive global network. All non-US hosters will be able to connect servers & bandwidth. Get ready.
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Derp. Not yet, lol! Ok so, that is awesome.  |
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Someone has to program it first!  |
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I'm thinking about not paying my order (SC single) because of:
Help me out with the math please, I've been trying to find my error but I can't:
Current network total: 17.368 Thash/s
Total Orders (By Last Seen): 4493
That would mean there's at least a 15TH/s raise in total network hashing power?
If we would call the orders tracked in this topic representative for the population,
(I know they're not, but as raw estimate would be enough for me)
average hashingpower in GH /order * number of orders / 1000 to get an amount in TH
(161*3.5GH+194*40GH+22*1000GH)/159*4493/1000
=856 TH
That's more than 20 times the current hashrate?
Am I wrong?
Is there any one who can calculate the mining difficulty in relation to the network hashing power, with my or your estimate of hashing power in a few months?
I don't think it's a good idea to order any SC's right now... not with the number of orders waiting, huge potential for large hashrate increase, and potential of waiting for a year to receive your order. With a price of $11.00 and the current difficulty/hashrate, an SC Single would pay itself off in about a week. But, if we reach 500 TH/s (my estimate of where we'll end up with the current backlog of orders, as I am certain those who made large purchases won't be advertising them on the forum), and assume the same price, you're looking at 202 days to pay it off. If we reach your estimate of 856 TH/s, 345 days. And keep in mind, this whole time you are trying to pay it off, more people will keep on ordering them, increasing the difficulty (and your payback period) that much more. With the volatility in Bitcoin price and uncertainty about the difficulty in the future, I wouldn't want to stake my payback on that long of a period. I think I'd rather just invest in Bitcoins themselves at this point. |
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If it needs intermediaries like bitpay to be "totally-compliant", then bitcoin failed. Bitpay deserves honor for all they are doing for bitcoin and there are many businesses that I guess are better off using their service for now but if you really need this middle man to do a donation (hey, here there is no danger of double-spends or volatility to eliminate.) then I can't cheer for joy. Baby steps... |
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This post is not to create a war, but rather let people know what "INSURED" and "GUARANTEED" usually means nothing.
I kind of figured this much to begin with. Why would I trust someone to insure funds any more than I would trust pirate to continue paying out? |
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I use this laptop rather frequently so I only mine in my spare time or when I'm not doing graphically intensive things. I get about 30-33 MH/s on my GTX 460M and I'm wondering which pool would be best for me to use.
I've tried a bunch but haven't been totally pleased with any of them, and I'm wondering if there's ones I'm missing.
And I know people are going to attempt to convince me to build something for mining. I'm already considering it, but I need the money first (no, these funds aren't going toward that).
Any suggestions?
I'd avoid it altogether. 33mhash will give you ~$0.11 per day. You could run it for a whole month and buy a single beer with your BTC  Seriously, the damage over time to your laptop will cost you far more than you make from mining. This man speaks the truth. |
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So, we have confirmation that Trendon Shavers (or whatever the heck his name was) is actually pirateat40 and does actually live in Texas, according to someone who met him in person and identified him via publicly-available photos?
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nice! as long as you follow the rules bitcoin is perfectly fine. lets get some more!
Idea for BitPay that might help politicians and other charities: an easy blind refund option. When invoked, BitPay will send the bitcoins back to the first address that sent the transaction, no questions asked. This might help more organizations be willing to accept Bitcoin (e.g. EFF) as they never have to worry about hot potato donations. A politician's staffer could go down the list and simply click all the donations that cannot be accepted and promptly return them to sender (minus a reasonable handling fee payable to BitPay - why not, since no one's gonna care anyway). All that matters is that someone has a credible way to push money back to where it came from if for whatever reason they can't be seen accepting it. The blockchain will clearly report that the money was returned to sender. It matters little that sometimes the sending address isn't the person who gets credited (e.g. MtGox wallet), that can safely be considered the sender's problem. If the incoming transaction was nonstandard, that might be more difficult to deal with technically, but not impossible: it could always be sent to a copy of the first transaction's script, which would be identical to sending it back to the original address when an address is present. *mines block and points reward to donation address* Who're you gonna return it to NOW??? |
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Why hasn't someone just driven to the dude's apartment to see what's up?
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Slightly different point also, you cannot in general assume that paying to an address is equal to paying a person unless they explicitly agree it will count as payment because they may have lost the private key or not be looking there anymore or sold it to someone in a foolhardy firtsbits collecting scheme.
Given the situation Mark is in it is impossible to return the coins to the senders, he's not accomplishing the desired undonating. But since he's only trying to convince bureaucrats who won't understand anything that comes with a sentiment of "I'm sorry I did something strange regarding money and I tried my best to undo it" will probably work unless they hate him.
Everything you mentioned is crazy corner cases. It would be extremely rare that someone would lose their private key or somehow lose it in a scam. Even things like Casascius physical BTC are usually swept to your wallet (or imported) before you can send it on. That's not to say that it doesn't happen, but we shouldn't let extreme corner cases dominate what is otherwise a perfect solution. Put up the appropriate warnings, and if the donor absoloutely insists that the sending coins back to the addresses would result in permanent loss or theft, Mark can donate them to charity.Agreed 100%. |
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"A fool and his money are soon parted."
Well quoted. I should make a brain wallet out of that quote and send 1 satoshi to it, to preserve it in the blockchain for posterity. Already done. And more than just 1 satoshi has been sent to it. |
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Ok, I'm not allowed to say "subbed"... so I'll say "interesting" instead.
Interesting.
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On that note... how about upping mine from 30 BTC to 60 BTC?
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