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3621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 09:04:21 PM
With the REV1 work wrapping up, tomorrow I will be focus'd on all the loose ends, and also the team will be using a new task management system[to organize the project], bounty's will be offered as there is a lot of work left to be done in a short amount of time.

Nice one. That's great. If you need anyone to edit or write copy for the site, etc. PM me.

So I need a very efficient  way to organize and manage this project effectively with the community.. and I think something like or similar to hitask... any recommendations?

Nice. I'm glad we're getting onto this. What works well enough for the Mastercoin people is https://www.bountysource.com/

Offering sufficient bounties for various tasks may not be within XC's budget, of course, but it definitely incentivises. It also formalises the task list in an organic way, which is elegant.

Since the community isn't constituted by employees, incentives are probably a better idea than a straight task management platform. What do you think?
3622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 08:30:22 PM
With the REV1 work wrapping up, tomorrow I will be focus'd on all the loose ends, and also the team will be using a new task management system[to organize the project], bounty's will be offered as there is a lot of work left to be done in a short amount of time.

Nice one. That's great. If you need anyone to edit or write copy for the site, etc. PM me.
3623  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 04:32:09 PM


We should set an end time as well, also I won't be commenting until that time - say 1.5 hours from now - around 2pm EST?

Is that Chaeplin fellow around and able to attempt something before 2pm EST?


He never provided proof of the link

True. But he did more than anyone else could. In all probability he won't be able to prove anything (if not due to his poor English, then due to a proof being a fair bit harder than a guess), but it's probably worth giving him a shot.
3624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 04:26:07 PM


We should set an end time as well, also I won't be commenting until that time - say 1.5 hours from now - around 2pm EST?

Is that Chaeplin fellow around and able to attempt something before 2pm EST?
3625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 04:09:40 PM

Update - I just ran a TX through the mixer

http://cryptexplorer.com/address/XDNHMSD2Feex8bDHz9yiLtadHz4LGABQWE




the only thing I'm looking for now is proof of direct link from the source wallet address to the destination wallet on block chain


Since this is single path at this time (not multi-path) that is the only concern with this release, is there a DIRECT LINK..

thanks,

ATCSECURE



Didn't we already prove that?  Nobody was able to provide a direct link last time either.


I was told that there was a lot confusion around this, so I did another test with a minor update to the code. but as REV2 is a priority w/ multi-path, I can't spend time on an issue that isn't an issue..  


Thanks dev for the continued and solid work. I'll be following the responses to this with much interest.
3626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 03:35:45 PM
Did you mean this one

https://i.imgur.com/86zEp0p.jpg


I think it has strengths, like looking like the sort of thing one would find on the door of a safe.

However it's skeuomorphic. That faux brushed steel and those colour gradients are a fad from a few years back.

There's also reason to consider how it will be at odds with the aesthetics of mobile app design, since a major part of XC's development is mobile and POS integration. Mobile app design has a minimal, flat, colourful look. Take, for example, the latest Skype logo. This XC logo will just look dated and out of place in that environment.
3627  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 03:24:59 PM
XC should have a slogan contest and then get an advert on coinmarketcap.com i think...

Advertising would be key.  There are a bunch of crypto coin sites that are a bargain to advertise on.

I think a heavy advertising campaign before we have a tested and working decentralized anon system would be a mistake.  Decentralized anon is the core of XC and until that is working flawlessly, an advertising campaign would be a disaster.


+1. Advertising no, PR yes.

Also, slogans are pretty 1980s. Do we need that in our brand?
3628  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 03:06:46 PM
Thanks for updating the first page of this thread.  It's much more helpful now.

Also, I can't wait for the logo contest to be over so that we can get a more professional logo.

Compared to the other coins the XC logo looks a little unprofessional on

http://cryptocoinstats.com/
and
http://coinmarketcap.com/


Speaking of the logo, I know that a vote has been planned, but I'm not convinced the designs submitted are quite where they need to be yet. The best of them are skeuomorphic and don't sufficiently distinguish themselves from the morass of altcoins out there. I know a top notch designer; we could get her (or anyone else) in.

How about it?

How about you show us some of her work?

For sure. Take a look around her site: http://alexandrabruns.com/ko-klee-ko


That said, there's merit in getting a broader service from a marketing/PR company. We need a brand, not just a logo.

there have been some great logos in the contest, the last submission on the blue background is it in my opinion, it looks like a key a little so it fits

Perhaps, but has there been conversation about whether a key embodies the sort of narrative XC would best suit? That's what I mean by branding. It's almost like seigniorage in currency-creation: it commodifies previously untapped resources in the nature of the coin, just as seigniorage commodifies previously untapped aspects of the world. A good marketing person would get deep into the details of the coin, its tech, its vision, its people, and put together a narrative and a set of concrete elements (logo, site, etc.) that tell/embody this story. We need this.

Which logo do you mean, btw?
3629  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 02:54:34 PM
Thanks for updating the first page of this thread.  It's much more helpful now.

Also, I can't wait for the logo contest to be over so that we can get a more professional logo.

Compared to the other coins the XC logo looks a little unprofessional on

http://cryptocoinstats.com/
and
http://coinmarketcap.com/


Speaking of the logo, I know that a vote has been planned, but I'm not convinced the designs submitted are quite where they need to be yet. The best of them are skeuomorphic and don't sufficiently distinguish themselves from the morass of altcoins out there. I know a top notch designer; we could get her (or anyone else) in.

How about it?

How about you show us some of her work?

For sure. Take a look around her site: http://alexandrabruns.com/ko-klee-ko


That said, there's merit in getting a broader service from a marketing/PR company. We need a brand, not just a logo.
3630  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 02:51:59 PM
Thanks for updating the first page of this thread.  It's much more helpful now.

Also, I can't wait for the logo contest to be over so that we can get a more professional logo.

Compared to the other coins the XC logo looks a little unprofessional on

http://cryptocoinstats.com/
and
http://coinmarketcap.com/


Speaking of the logo, I know that a vote has been planned, but I'm not convinced the designs submitted are quite where they need to be yet. The best of them are skeuomorphic and don't sufficiently distinguish themselves from the morass of altcoins out there. I know a top notch designer; we could get her (or anyone else) in.

How about it?

How about you show us some of her work?

For sure. Take a look around her site: http://alexandrabruns.com/ko-klee-ko
3631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 02:48:14 PM
Thanks for updating the first page of this thread.  It's much more helpful now.

Also, I can't wait for the logo contest to be over so that we can get a more professional logo.

Compared to the other coins the XC logo looks a little unprofessional on

http://cryptocoinstats.com/
and
http://coinmarketcap.com/


Speaking of the logo, I know that a vote has been planned, but I'm not convinced the designs submitted are quite where they need to be yet. The best of them are skeuomorphic and don't sufficiently distinguish themselves from the morass of altcoins out there. I know a top notch designer; we could get her (or anyone else) in.

How about it?
3632  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 02:39:31 PM
Does XC has an official twitter account? As we know, most of the times the road to a new feature makes the price go up. When anonymity is finished, price may go up a little, but not much. People like to buy on forehand. Why is it the XC creators are not actively advertising on twitter what they are trying to accomplish? People are searching on altcoin names whole day long on twitter and often make a decision to buy or not.

+1

Also agree XC could do with someone dedicated to marketing. there is very little at the moment.


You don't market a product until it is ready. Evan Duffield waited for almost 6 months before he started marketing DRK actively.


I don't think that's correct. You market anything that has public exposure and stands to gain or lose from the nature of that exposure.

Call it PR rather than marketing, perhaps, if it makes more sense.

Yeah this is what I meant. I'm not saying promote it as a finished product. But it certainly wouldn't hurt to get the word out a bit more about what we've got so far, and whats in the pipeline! Smiley

Exactly. XC needs a coherent, cogent story told of it. It needs a well-publicised development plan, and candid daily reports on progress, unsolved problems, and plans of attack. The way Vitalik Buterin writes about Ethereum is an excellent example of pre-release PR: it's no-nonsense, technical, clearly written, and engaging. It inspires confidence.

--> http://blog.ethereum.org/

If something goes wrong or is unsolved, we need to be the first people to report it and to tell the story properly. If something big is in the pipeline, we owe it to the community to publicise it well and engage people.

That way, we'd not only avoid a ton of FUD, but we'd attract great dev talent and all kinds of other expertise. It would be huge.
3633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 02:35:57 PM
Does XC has an official twitter account? As we know, most of the times the road to a new feature makes the price go up. When anonymity is finished, price may go up a little, but not much. People like to buy on forehand. Why is it the XC creators are not actively advertising on twitter what they are trying to accomplish? People are searching on altcoin names whole day long on twitter and often make a decision to buy or not.

+1

Also agree XC could do with someone dedicated to marketing. there is very little at the moment.


You don't market a product until it is ready. Evan Duffield waited for almost 6 months before he started marketing DRK actively.


I don't think that's correct. You market anything that has public exposure and stands to gain or lose from the nature of that exposure.

Call it PR rather than marketing, perhaps, if it makes more sense.

Yeah this is what I meant. I'm not saying promote it as a finished product. But it certainly wouldn't hurt to get the word out a bit more about what we've got so far, and whats in the pipeline! Smiley

Exactly. XC needs a coherent, cogent story told of it. It needs a well-publicised development plan, and candid daily reports on progress, unsolved problems, and plans of attack. The way Vitalik Buterin writes about Ethereum is an excellent example of pre-release PR: it's no-nonsense, technical, clearly written, and engaging. It inspires confidence.

--> http://blog.ethereum.org/
3634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 02:23:57 PM
Does XC has an official twitter account? As we know, most of the times the road to a new feature makes the price go up. When anonymity is finished, price may go up a little, but not much. People like to buy on forehand. Why is it the XC creators are not actively advertising on twitter what they are trying to accomplish? People are searching on altcoin names whole day long on twitter and often make a decision to buy or not.

+1

Also agree XC could do with someone dedicated to marketing. there is very little at the moment.


You don't market a product until it is ready. Evan Duffield waited for almost 6 months before he started marketing DRK actively.


I don't think that's correct. You market anything that has public exposure and stands to gain or lose from the nature of that exposure.

Call it PR rather than marketing, perhaps, if it makes more sense.
3635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 02:13:12 PM
Does XC has an official twitter account? As we know, most of the times the road to a new feature makes the price go up. When anonymity is finished, price may go up a little, but not much. People like to buy on forehand. Why is it the XC creators are not actively advertising on twitter what they are trying to accomplish? People are searching on altcoin names whole day long on twitter and often make a decision to buy or not.

+1. I think the dev team could benefit from a person specifically responsible for marketing.

However, there is a Twitter account: https://twitter.com/XCplatform
3636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 12:28:27 PM
dont read the chart... trust your gut... i listened to mine yesterday at .0019 and got out - thankfully.   There will be a time to get back into XC but that time is not now.

Alternatively, one can profit from other people's panic. Although the exchanges don't offer shorting, every crash has a significant rebound, so you can just wait patiently until the price is about to bounce off the bottom, buy, and sell a few minutes later on the rebound. Easiest money ever. I'm not the most experienced trader, but this I find particularly predictable.
3637  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 12:19:35 PM
Now that's trying to manipulate the market.



http://imgur.com/mD491ET

Someone simulating a small crash by making sell order after sell order. The only issue is they where stupid enough to do each of the orders nearly exactly 7 seconds apart.


Mikemikemike, given that the wedge broke downward, what's your short term outlook at the moment?

Not happy. That's my short term outlook.

Seriously though, I'm not too sure. My feel for the market kinda went out of wack today, apart from buying in @ 0.00145. Another crash soon seems more likely than not. I'm waiting for the update later to make any moves though. Knowing there's going to be news today kinda throws all reasonable analysis out the window. Lets see what's the news is and how the next few hours progress, a few large orders over the last hour have kinda thrown the recovery out of wack. Gonna hold my breath and see what happens, not really sure either way. Gonna be an interesting few hours that I'm sure of




Yeah, I'd agree with you. It all seems a bit out of whack. The chart suggests substantial disagreement on where the price should be headed. Ah well, here's to an uncertain afternoon.
3638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 11:50:09 AM
Now that's trying to manipulate the market.



http://imgur.com/mD491ET

Someone simulating a small crash by making sell order after sell order. The only issue is they where stupid enough to do each of the orders nearly exactly 7 seconds apart.


Mikemikemike, given that the wedge broke downward, what's your short term outlook at the moment?
3639  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 11:40:49 AM


Those logos look cool, but they also look like the year 2007. The skeuomorphism gives it away. Contemporary trends are towards flat (i.e. not fake 3D), more minimal design. Check out http://www.logolounge.com/article/2014logotrends#.U48C2OoU9U0 for examples.

Good work !

I hate logo trends ...i must say..

Yeah, I'd agree that it would be a good idea to not try too hard to be trendy. However we should also make an attempt to not look like a trend from 2007.
3640  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][XC][OFFICIAL] >> Mandatory Wallet Update (01/06) - X11/PoS/Anon on: June 04, 2014, 11:33:46 AM


Those logos look cool, but they also look like the year 2007. The skeuomorphism gives it away. Contemporary trends are towards flat (i.e. not fake 3D), more minimal design. Check out http://www.logolounge.com/article/2014logotrends#.U48C2OoU9U0 for examples.
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