IMO, the only thing we have to do is to spread the word.
The word is that you can buy things online with bitcoin. It's safe and easy. It's the Internet concurrency made from the Internet for the Internet.
So you're telling everyone to use a currency and all you contribute is "spreading the word" and hoarding them? That's not real value you're adding, it's speculative value……(building a bubble...."get rich quick") Of course Bitcoin has advantages, but we need to add value by adding products and services if we want Bitcoin to become successful. No, absolutely wrong. The biggest thing people don't realize is that 1) there are advantage using bitcoin 2) its not a scam, you can really buy things online using it. Having a website visited by 10m people daily accepting bitcoin a would be a fantastic way of spreading this concept. Once this concept spread, the rest will come by itself. People are hungry of the financial system as of now. |
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OP, saresti interessato ad una collaborazione in stile start up dalle scarse possibilità di successo, dove io metto hardware (si parte con almeno due server), dominio e sostanzialmente soldi per l'investimento iniziale, l'idea e tu ti occupi della programmazione e della manutenzione di tutti i giorni, rapporti con gli utenti e giù di li?
Sono un decente programmatore pure io ma non ho il tempo che vorrei per dedicarmi a questa cosa.
Se sei interessato fammi sapere in privato.
Ciao.
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The right way to bring the bitcoin value up 10x in 6 months enstabilishing it If the company "accepts Bitcoin" for payment it won't add a lot of real value to the economy (just a lot of speculative value) - however if they actually use the Bitcoin income (e.g. to pay for the servers, development, etc.) instead of converting back to fiat it would probably add much more. You don't get it. IMO, the only thing we have to do is to spread the word. The word is that you can buy things online with bitcoin. It's safe and easy. It's the Internet concurrency made from the Internet for the Internet. |
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The avg reddit user is a nerd and might already know of bitcoin. The average megaupload user does not. Now take 10 million unique newbies daily with a 0.01% chance that they will read "Bitcoin" on the Dotcom's website. Now, that is HUGE! |
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Persuade Kim Dotcom to use it as a payment method for its next project, he is in the frontpage of Wired in this month iusse.
Just think at the implications of this!
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Cablepair, I suggest you to accept the bet.
-he will troll your thread anyway
-you simply have to release some very generic specs (like 1000W +- 99.995% per GH/s)
-it's simple money for you
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I would award inaba a "premium troller" tag.
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but that's not going to happen and we both know it  Scenario which is more probable is that you will actually make a lot of money on those ASICs, whatever is said in this thread... I really doubt it and i have zero hopes on something like that to happen... But sure, with Avalon out till at least the first of February ad BFL that will run away with the money leaving their employes trying to figure out how to buy ASIC chips on ebay... Well, that might a profitable mining period!  In 5 weeks halving day is a fact, then it,s up to BFL and Avalon,s testbatch etc. to deliver ASIC a week later orso??..mmm i don,t know if that is a fact to.. but it,s going to be a very very intresting end of the year in BTCminingland... we shall see... I'm actually thinking about preordering more singles... If you really have to, place the orders on different vendors. It's not a great idea to depend on a single one. |
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but that's not going to happen and we both know it Scenario which is more probable is that you will actually make a lot of money on those ASICs, whatever is said in this thread... I really doubt it and i have zero hopes on something like that to happen... But sure, with Avalon out till at least the first of February ad BFL that will run away with the money leaving their employes trying to figure out how to buy ASIC chips on ebay... Well, that might a profitable mining period! |
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A roi of 1 year with a difficulty x15 of what it's right now, and the hope of receiving my hardware soon.
These 2 alone are not enough, what made me really change idea is that I really think the bitcoin economy to grow of several orders of magnitude in the future. I will mine to keep, not mine to sell.
It's a bet.
I have the same feeling. However I also want to use some of the coins I mine, because the economy won't grow if everyone will only hoard coins... I think as long as there is SR and BMR markets out there BTC will survive for the good or the bad..there are a lot more srry to say so addicts who must find out about BTC still out there... I also think that own a GPU@800Mh now will be the same as own a SC@60Gh in 6 months (IF ASIC,s are 4real) so not that mutch will change except that the network security will be better off also 2many preorderd people counted themself to rich i think, BFL and other comp. took adventage of that...we will see The only thing is that really, we will see. There are too many variables by far in this game. I will be happy if my ASIC will return me 50% of the investment before becoming obsolete!  (yes, i'm serious). |
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A roi of 1 year with a difficulty x15 of what it's right now, and the hope of receiving my hardware soon.
These 2 alone are not enough, what made me really change idea is that I really think the bitcoin economy to grow of several orders of magnitude in the future. I will mine to keep, not mine to sell.
It's a bet.
I have the same feeling. However I also want to use some of the coins I mine, because the economy won't grow if everyone will only hoard coins... BTC is imo both a "storage" and an "online" concurrency. You can use it either to safely store your money and to pay online. Spending your BTC in stupid online stuff will not help the btc economy to grow, only an increase of demand of btc would. What we should do is to create business that accept bitcoins, or find new alternative ways to persuade existing e-commerces to accept bitcoins. We have to push them, to give them a solid reason. Buying coffee online will not help us. |
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A roi of 1 year with a difficulty x15 of what it's right now, and the hope of receiving my hardware soon.
These 2 alone are not enough, what made me really change idea is that I really think the bitcoin economy to grow of several orders of magnitude in the future. I will mine to keep, not mine to sell.
It's a bet.
Fair enough. I guess the odds are better than playing the lottery. I sincerely wish you good luck. Haha, really funny. Yes, you are right, i have better odds than that case, with the difference that i don't play the lottery/whatever other similar game, i consider that a tax on the poors. Thank you for your wishes |
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A roi of 1 year with a difficulty x15 of what it's right now, and the hope of receiving my hardware soon.
These 2 alone are not enough, what made me really change idea is that I really think the bitcoin economy to grow of several orders of magnitude in the future. I will mine to keep, not mine to sell.
It's a bet.
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Given the posts I made on this thread, I find it fair to disclose that I ended up investing a fair amount into ASIC.
Lets see what happens.
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we so overregulated. it is a shame. I wonder if/when people will hit the streets about it
They already have, especially in the southern states! Trouble is, they seem to be protesting "austerity" itself (hang on, isn't a reduction in government spending in and of itself a good thing?) rather than what is, IMO, the real underlying problem, i.e. the sheer corrupt politics and sham economic policies, not to mention that the "austerity" is being done for the benefit of the Banksters and not the "common" people. Wrong on all the line A corrupted gov can only account for x of our deficit. A corrupted economy have a far bigger power. |
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Please provide evidence or it didn't happen. A link to the relevant posts would suffice, thanks! Cool story, bro.
Inaba/Josh, I'm really beginning to regret I paid you back those 138BTC what your pool's bug paid me. I thought you were a nice guy. I'm beginning to think I was mistaken. Why do you need deny the problems you've had with your pool? Even I sent you a mail regarding my 7.2GH/s miner showing up as 5.5 GH/s on your pool, just to get ignored. I really think/hope you've got better things to do. So why don't you just do us all a favor and stop hijacking your employer's competitor's thread? Thanks. Best post i've read in a while. |
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According to BFL, shipping will begin in 2-3 weeks.. People need to be ready to milk those asics So it looks like not many pools are ready for ASICS?
The ones that are will leave the rest behind..
if ASIC are getting delivered tomorrow, yes. BUT as ASIC will not be here until December sometime (at earliest)... plenty of time Personally I think this thread is rather premature. That's in "BFL Time". Add 6 months for the first batch. Then assume 4-6 weeks delivery is 4-6 months for the first year. |
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True.
And let's not forget that the incandescent bulb light is the most natural one that we can archive artificially.
That might be true for fluorescents, but it's not true of all technologies. A standard incandescent is limited by the fact that no filament material is capable of the ~5800K temperature needed to give the same black body spectrum as the sun. There's a lot more promise of getting a close to white light spectrum with something light LED lights than there is with incandescents. 1) true, i was just justifying the guys that have headaches due to that. 2) sure, i know how they work 3) ok, so? what's the radiation of the sun? that's the one we should copy, not set a arbitrary standard and try to achieve that. You said that incandescent bulb light was the most natural that we can achieve artificially. I'm disagreeing with you, I think we will be able to get closer to the natural solar spectrum with technologies other than incandescent bulbs. It has nothing to do with setting standards. I may be wrong, i based that statement on an article i readed long ago. As of now, i think that statement to still hold. Eventually, we will find a better alternative. |
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Why would you support a complete ban on them? If people want to buy them, what's wrong with that?
It's a complete waste of energy. Better technology already exists, no reason to continue using them. The alternative technology isn't there yet. That's why they have to ban them. By the time the alternative technologies are good enough, they would have been adopted anyway. True. And let's not forget that the incandescent bulb light is the most natural one that we can archive artificially. How do you figure? I don't know how he figures it, but most people complaint about fluorescent or white light bulbs saying they can't stand them, gives them headaches and so on. yes. Try to take a picture of a fluorescent bulb with your camera, you will notice that half of it is "off" even if you say it at full brightness trough your eye. The incandescent bulbs are constantly on, emitting the same radiation during the time, while these do not. They are shut down and up very fast. That might be true for fluorescents, but it's not true of all technologies. A standard incandescent is limited by the fact that no filament material is capable of the ~5800K temperature needed to give the same black body spectrum as the sun. There's a lot more promise of getting a close to white light spectrum with something light LED lights than there is with incandescents. 1) true, i was just justifying the guys that have headaches due to that. 2) sure, i know how they work 3) ok, so? what's the radiation of the sun? that's the one we should copy, not set a arbitrary standard and try to achieve that. |
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Why would you support a complete ban on them? If people want to buy them, what's wrong with that?
It's a complete waste of energy. Better technology already exists, no reason to continue using them. The alternative technology isn't there yet. That's why they have to ban them. By the time the alternative technologies are good enough, they would have been adopted anyway. True. And let's not forget that the incandescent bulb light is the most natural one that we can archive artificially. How do you figure? I don't know how he figures it, but most people complaint about fluorescent or white light bulbs saying they can't stand them, gives them headaches and so on. yes. Try to take a picture of a fluorescent bulb with your camera, you will notice that half of it is "off" even if you say it at full brightness trough your eye. The incandescent bulbs are constantly on, emitting the same radiation during the time, while these do not. They are shut down and up very fast. |
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