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3621  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 25, 2021, 10:32:23 PM
Winning 1 golden ticket is not bad at all. I already have had in total more than 200 WOF spins and haven't won yet any golden ticket. Like you, many are probably in loss with the FUN token purchases but we can only have patience. Their roadmap is interesting enough!
According to the figures posted by Generalzod580 you have now 10x times more chances than before to win one golden ticket at the WOF game. You got 0.01% chances to win this prize before and now you get 0.1% chances. That's the same probability to win 3500RP or 3500satoshis.
I didn't know people were so fond of those golden tickets. You can easily earn plenty of them by simply betting, you will get one every 500 000 satoshis wagered.

So i did a little digging up and i stumbled across this on the fun token telegram


now i cant verify with 100% certainty the validity of this but based on the above picture the wof would award the base reward 99% of the time.
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3622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Battle of supremacy between Dogecoin and Shiba Inu on: October 25, 2021, 09:59:05 PM
I feel Shiba Inu is a stronger coin as compared to Doge. Shiba Inu has so many use cases as a meme coin and we have Leash and Bone to help grow Shiba. Without Elon Doge is useless
Dogecoin was here way before Elon Musk became popular, then it will still be here after Elon Musk. Actually in one century Doge will still be here unlike these opportunistic shitcoin tokens like Shiba Inu. There is absolutely no value in those copycat tokens, they can crash like most of shitcoins at any moment. Be careful, it's a high risky investment unlike DOGE.
3623  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fiat-betting to crypto+betting on: October 25, 2021, 09:46:10 PM
Fiat betting was once the order of the day making online betting difficult to play mostly for international gamblers that have no access to international money transfer services like money gramme, PayPal, Wester Union and so many more. Online gambling was mostly difficult then but now. The regime of Bitcoin has made online transactions easier for everyone.

Gone are those days where you will have to queue in a betting shop to play bets(sport bet mostly)
Gone are those days where online betting is limited.
Gone are those days where there are few betting sites available for bet enthusiasts.
Gone are those days when gambling is for the rich.
Gone are those days where international sport betting transactions are stressful.
Gone are those days when people are afriad to buy Bitcoin.

Now we have some many altcoins that can be use to play bets online. We are gradually walking into the blockchain era. God bless Satoshi Nakamoto.

What advantage does the crypto betting has over Fait betting?


I'm not sure what point you're trying to prove really but it seems like either your country has made fiat gambling illegal (in which case cryptocurrency betting would be off limits to you technically anyway) or you are blissfully  unaware of the hundreds of online fiat betting sites out there. In my country local currency betting has been online long before Bitcoin ever existed and the games are probably much the same as you see these days. There's obviously been upgrades in graphics, variety and convenience has improved - but it's been going for decades now. I think you are stuck in the mindset that only cryptocurrency or real world casinos exist when this has never been the case.
You didn't get his point obviously : cryptocurrencies are incensurable bro. So even if his government wants to prohibit him from betting, or to put high taxes on gambling. Bushdark doesn't care. He can use an offshore crypto casino or sportsbook to bet as much as he wants without worrying about his authorities.
3624  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [BOXING] Logan Paul vs Mike Tyson on: October 25, 2021, 09:31:21 PM
Despite being an exhibition fight, I'm anxious to watching it.
Mike Tyson was a great boxer (perhaps one of the best in the sport's history).

I saw some videos of Tyson training and he really is a monster! He's more than 50 years old, he's still fast and technical.

One question, is the height of Logan Paul and his wingspan that could make a difference against Tyson? Even though it's an exhibition fight?
I feel anxious too, but for Logan Paul. Because it will be a matter of honor for Mike Tyson to knock out him before the final bell, Floyd Mayweather has been very disappointed to not being able to knock out him before the end of the fight but he was way less strong and heavy than Mike Tyson. Mike Tyson will just destroy him even if Logan Paul protects himself with his gloves, because he won't want to be discredited by an amateur. Moreover he will be able to analyse his match against Mayweather, then he won't be surprised by Logan Paul like Mayweather had been.
3625  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going for the Underdog or Not? on: October 25, 2021, 08:58:47 PM
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I hope you didn't lose too much money on this bet. I bet on India too, because India is a big favorite of this T20 World Cup and a very interesting promotion is currently running on Stake : if your selection scores 180+ runs, you will be paid out as a winner even if it loses. Unfortunately India didn't score 180 runs and loses the game while being favorite @1.45 on Stake.

I saw India at 1.3 odds when I placed a bet on India. I did not lose big in money, but what I lost big was my trust that I had on India because of that friend. He was so sure that India will only win, I couldn't stop myself to place a bet and the results were shocking.
Personally, I'm still thinking India was unlikely to lose, and it was just a bad day for them. Then I will place a bet on India at its next game.
For the match against Pakistan, I got a small surprise, I forgot I had placed a bet on Pakistan on another sportsbook, then I'm finally in profit for this game.
3626  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: [POLL]Eric Zemmour va-t-il battre Marine Le Pen? on: October 25, 2021, 07:57:24 PM
Convaincre une femme musulmane d'enlever son voile en direct à la télé, il a quand même fait fort le Zemmour, je ne pense pas que ça soit arrivé souvent à la télévision française.
J'espère qu'elle n'aura pas de problème et lui non plus. Quand on sait ce qui est arrivé à Samuel Paty, on peut avoir peur que quelques illuminés se sentent investis d'une mission divine au "nom d'Allah"
https://www.jeanmarcmorandini.com/article-478273-eric-zemmour-face-a-une-femme-voilee-en-direct-a-drancy-dans-face-a-la-rue-enlevez-votre-cravate-j-enleve-mon-voile-video.html
3627  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where to sports bet ( BITCOIN book) on: October 25, 2021, 04:45:55 PM
Afaik Bitsler has one of the lowest minimums, they don't have any minimum on deposits but the minimum withdraw is around .00025 ($15~).

Another sportsbook with a decent minimum is Stake they also don't have minimums on deposit but their minimum withdraw is a bit higher at around .0005($25~).
The minimum withdrawal limit on Stake is maybe a little bit too high for manbitcoinlover indeed (0.0005btc is currently worth more than $30) but this limit is lower for some other cryptocurrencies, for example it's only 0.1LTC (less than $20) or 50DOGE (around $10) and manbitcoinlover can exchange his bitcoins against altcoins thanks to dinabot there https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360184
In addition, if odds of his bet are above @1.5 there won't be any problem, because if he wins he will be above the minimum limit and if he loses he won't have any funds to withdraw anymore lol Tongue
3628  Economy / Investor-based games / Re: GoodwinLab ★ Free 0.01 BNB/Day ★ BSC ★ 10% Referral Program on: October 25, 2021, 03:37:19 PM
OP never came back to answer those legitimate questions... Roll Eyes The website seems to be down right now, but if it becomes available again, it could be more appropriate to open a red flag IMO because unlogged readers won't be able to see the red trust feedback left by Slow Death (and eventually mine) unfortunately  Undecided

And he never will, at least with this account of his. I doubt that the site will "reopen" but you are right, maybe it's good to open flags. On the other hand, we will create flags for newbies that clearly came here for scamming with one-two post? I mean even if unregistered users can't see the trust, for sure they can read before sending their money to someone that promises 2000% profit... Roll Eyes
You are right, it's maybe useless for brand new accounts not posting anymore when the website they've promoted seems to be down but unfortunately people don't seem to open flags for more serious cases either. For example ROY_PRIZM has posted more than 300 messages and he's still posting to promote his ponzi scheme and updating his thread without receiving any flags.
3629  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going for the Underdog or Not? on: October 25, 2021, 03:12:54 PM

But what if your instincts is saying the underdog has no chance to beat the favorite?
Because if you are closely following those individuals involved, you will know their capability in that particular sport.
So for me, this is a case to case basis. Every game or match is different and you can only decide this factor if you know the sports and the athletes well.
But if not, just take your chance betting your $10. Anyway, if you feel you can afford that to lose, it is not big deal whatever the results is.

Sports betting is definitely a case to case basis depend on how you assess a player or fighter on your own. Everyone has a right to choose and make their own bets without following the crowd provided that you know how to look for a better fighter which you would bet on. A $10 amount of bets will definitely give a x2 or x3 of return betting on underdog provided that the underdog player or fighter has a potential that you see on him. But in my case I used to follow the crowd favourites, I want assurance.
But you will never get any assurance when you bet, otherwise it's not a true bet anymore, it's a rigged one. People are betting against each other because there is always a part of uncertainty, if the outcome is certain no one will be ready to pay anything for that. When you bet you are just buying a risk, higher risk giving higher ROI.
3630  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 25, 2021, 11:11:12 AM
How the House Edge could be bigger than 5%? I don't understand. The Hi-Lo game is provably fair, you can change your client seed for every roll while knowing the server seed hash. For 2.0 odds, winning ranges are 0-4750 and 5250-10000 then the RTP is 2.0 x 47.5%=95%
You think wrong. If you always click on hi, only then will you know about House Edge = 15%

Saint-loup. No need to argue with people who insist against Provably Fair, do not want to provide proof that they found something wrong. They need to believe what they want to and don't realize how every statement they make later makes their own case weaker and weaker.

Ignore command is the best ever.
I agree with you slaman29, 16xypjnxlrew should provide some proofs if he wants to blame an old and reputed provably fair game. Dozens millions of people have tried this game, if it was rigged someone would have already been able to expose solid evidences about the case.

Provable fairness means you should be able to mathematically prove the result of a bet. It does not mean you cannot get scammed. Provably fair is not infallible because it can be exploited or as was the case with Coinpot's multiplier game they can just make up any result they want and hope people aren't bothering to verify each roll.
Thank you for sharing this article, but if freebitco.in wanted to scam people like Coinpot did why they would use a so large official House Edge(5%)?  And why they would take the risk of being exposed and losing all their gamblers and business for 10% more profit as 16xypjnxlrew claims.
3631  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: French Soccer League Predictions and Discussion Thread (Ligue 1) on: October 24, 2021, 11:58:46 PM
It is very frustrating when a team cannot score a goal despite having one of the strongest forwards and midfielders in the world. However, I admit that PSG's luck is bad, they could not score a single goal. But when a team like Marseille attacks more than PSG and when their style of play is better than PSG, it hurts me as a fan of PSG. Marseille has made 15 shots in this match. While PSG has done only 10. Messi's performance was good enough today. But I didn't get anything good from Mbappe and Neymar.
Yes it's a disgrace for PSG because "le classique" is an important event for the fans of each team, and during this kind of match players are expected to play for the sake of honour of their team and their town, and not just to grab some points for the championship ranking.
3632  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NO KYC Sportbooks? on: October 24, 2021, 11:56:22 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.
But I tried to search for what you're asking here, I found that there are some, but I really am not familiar to them. I'll just drop the link below, and you can background check those that are listed there before continuing.

Here is the link.
Where did you find such dubious sportsbooks? On google? Moreover they seem to be fiat sportsbooks and not crypto ones. If you were gambling you would already know well reputed crypto sportsbooks with no KYC like Stake for example. You should increase your knowledge before posting here if you don't want to spam and to mislead legit gamblers.
Huh?
What are you saying? Hahaha did I mislead him? I just gave some of what I'd found for him. Should I explore my knowledge about gambling? I've been playing for a couple of years, and I'm not just saying anything I don't really know.
Spam? Mislead? Are you seriously saying that?  Roll Eyes Before you quote me, pls make you understand what I said correctly. Wink
You didn't reply to my question, where did you find this page? Those so called sportsbooks are unknown here and highly dubious, moreover I don't understand why you are posting links of fiat sportsbooks here. You're obviously a noob in gambling and you should refrain from posting random content without knowing what it is and spamming.
Cant you read the link? Did you even clicked it? Obviously the website of that link is a review website for casinos.
He doesn't said that he want a crypto casino nor a fiat one Smiley
You're a war freak who just quotes and reply without fully understanding what is being said.
You are trying to avoid my question about the origin of your link and misleading people by spreading fake news. Those reviews are just fake, they are intended to fool people with good ratings and comments about some scammy platforms.
3633  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Issue of fixed Matches on: October 24, 2021, 11:35:41 PM
I doubt that they know the result before the start of the match, most likely they make several predictions and then delete the unsuccessful ones. I think if you follow these channels more closely, you can catch them on this. All these scammers use the same algorithms. If they really knew something, they could profit from it without any sales of this information.

I know they would not sell it and profit from it, but there are some gambling tipsters who also promote them for the sake of either money or cross promotion. Using quick telegram users generation bots as an alternative, these tipsters make newbies to think that they are giving real fixed matches and helping their members earn the promised values which makes it easier for the owners of those channels to scam the innocent people.
That is the main reason it is 90% fraud if someone sends pm first on social media, Telegram users are a special target for scammers since they easily filter the groups and find potential victims. Fixed matches are sold for huge amount not for the few hundred dollars and it is usually known to buyers 15 min before the match according to real seller on Dark Web  I found once:)
Why do they reveal it so late? It shouldn't be easy to place big bets only 15 minutes before the beginning of the match, then it doesn't seem to worth such expensive prices. Moreover I don't think this kind of guy refund his customers if the expected outcome doesn't happen.
3634  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going for the Underdog or Not? on: October 24, 2021, 10:59:27 PM
It should depend on the performance of both teams.
One of my known persons told me that India will win the match against Pakistan and India was favorite while Pakistan was underdog in people's eyes. I watched the game where India was struggling to save their wickets and make good runs while Pakistan managed to win with a zero wicket. This proves that sometimes, underdogs can also beat good teams and turn the game on their side.
I hope you didn't lose too much money on this bet. I bet on India too, because India is a big favorite of this T20 World Cup and a very interesting promotion is currently running on Stake : if your selection scores 180+ runs, you will be paid out as a winner even if it loses. Unfortunately India didn't score 180 runs and loses the game while being favorite @1.45 on Stake.
3635  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NO KYC Sportbooks? on: October 24, 2021, 10:37:43 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.
But I tried to search for what you're asking here, I found that there are some, but I really am not familiar to them. I'll just drop the link below, and you can background check those that are listed there before continuing.

Here is the link.
Where did you find such dubious sportsbooks? On google? Moreover they seem to be fiat sportsbooks and not crypto ones. If you were gambling you would already know well reputed crypto sportsbooks with no KYC like Stake for example. You should increase your knowledge before posting here if you don't want to spam and to mislead legit gamblers.
Huh?
What are you saying? Hahaha did I mislead him? I just gave some of what I'd found for him. Should I explore my knowledge about gambling? I've been playing for a couple of years, and I'm not just saying anything I don't really know.
Spam? Mislead? Are you seriously saying that?  Roll Eyes Before you quote me, pls make you understand what I said correctly. Wink
You didn't reply to my question, where did you find this page? Those so called sportsbooks are unknown here and highly dubious, moreover I don't understand why you are posting links of fiat sportsbooks here. You're obviously a noob in gambling and you should refrain from posting random content without knowing what it is and spamming.
3636  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Fake bets on: October 24, 2021, 10:27:54 PM
It's funny to the point that the influencers who are promoting a gambling platform doesn't even know how to play it, they are just reading the scripts which was given to them.
It is not honestly funny but I am seeing the cruel nature of gambling houses in attempting to trap naive gamblers but what else you expect from a business which is exploiting all the human emotions for profit making. Basically all the infulencers are mere marketing agents and when you pay them then they will advertise whatever you ask for.

Actually, there's nothing wrong with that as long as gambling is legal and as a gambler, we are responsible enough to manage the risk.
This is the point which saves both infulencers and gambling houses from all legal actions. Even protecting ourselves is our own responsibility, I feel tempting us through fake things will lead to breach our own resolutions by forgetting responsibilities.

I could not agree more with you. With these sentiments, I hope that influencers will consider the implications of every advertising projects that they are offered to. Although they are making a living out of this, people can be put into a bad place by following them and believing their words. And while it is true that we hold the responsibility for our own welfare, being diligent in this digital world can be challenging because we are bombarded with so much information, where misleading info is rampant, that makes it difficult to determine which is which.


Most of the influencers that doing this kind of crap always put a disclaimer segment on there video. They are just simply advertising and that's there job, It's up to the people if they will believe it or not. Honestly, people that following and easily putting there trust on random guy on social media are worst and not worthy to be pity in case they suffer some loss. Let them learned from there mistake and move forward so that they can be better.
I agree with you but you shouldn't forget that most viewers of this kind of videos are very young and one part of them is not adult. Then  there is a need to find a way to prevent them from being abused by those scammy/fake demos.
3637  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in-$200 FreeBTC⭐Win Lambo🔥0.2BTC DailyJackpot🏆$32,500 Wager Contest on: October 24, 2021, 09:48:25 PM
How the House Edge could be bigger than 5%? I don't understand. The Hi-Lo game is provably fair, you can change your client seed for every roll while knowing the server seed hash. For 2.0 odds, winning ranges are 0-4750 and 5250-10000 then the RTP is 2.0 x 47.5%=95%
You think wrong. If you always click on hi, only then will you know about House Edge = 15%
Then people would just need to always bet on Lo to easily grab money from the platform. Why didn't you try it? Again the game is provably fair and you can change your client seed whenever you want and check if the outcomes are legit or not. The algorithm is public

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How are rolls calculated?

Two strings are created :
STRING1 = "[NONCE]:[SERVER SEED]:[NONCE]"
STRING2 = "[NONCE]:[CLIENT SEED]:[NONCE]"
For your last roll :
STRING1 = ""
STRING2 = ""
Then HMAC-SHA512 is used to hash STRING1 with STRING2 as the secret key, giving us a 128 character hex string.
The first 8 characters of the hex string are taken and converted to a decimal.
This decimal is then divided by 429496.7295 and rounded off to the nearest whole number.
This whole number is used as your roll, with the maximum possible value being 10,000.
3638  Economy / Gambling / Re: Where to report gambling fraud? on: October 24, 2021, 09:29:41 PM
Hello, I have been searching the forum to see where to report gambling site frauds on this forum.

Depends on the magnitude of the problem and who you want to resolve the issue.

Your country probably has a complaint centre for gambling operators, or a gambling ombudsman.

If you want to make a complaint to them you'd have to go through their complaint handling process. On the forum you can create a new scam accusation but that's probably not going to do anything other than add negative trust to the casino operator's account.
Most of crypto sportsbooks are located off shore then I don't think a local complaint centre for gambling operators or a gambling ombudsman can do anything for him unfortunately. Only report on platform like Trustpilot or here can hurt reputation of scammy gambling sites and prevent people from being defrauded by them.
3639  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: NO KYC Sportbooks? on: October 24, 2021, 09:19:09 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.
But I tried to search for what you're asking here, I found that there are some, but I really am not familiar to them. I'll just drop the link below, and you can background check those that are listed there before continuing.

Here is the link.
Where did you find such dubious sportsbooks? On google? Moreover they seem to be fiat sportsbooks and not crypto ones. If you were gambling you would already know well reputed crypto sportsbooks with no KYC like Stake for example. You should increase your knowledge before posting here if you don't want to spam and to mislead legit gamblers.
3640  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Going for the Underdog or Not? on: October 24, 2021, 09:03:49 PM

I'm not sure if this had been asked before. This is just an example of some odds that I saw recently Fighter A (1.30) vs Fighter B (3.65). With this obviously, Fighter A is the people's champ and Fighter B is the underdog. 

Regardless of who is bigger and undefeated record, let's say you have no idea who these fighters are because the names can't even be read like Ulshrkubyki vs Ykwehgyfvbh. If you only have $10 left in your sports betting account, would you go for the champ which you can only earn $3, or go for the underdog which if he got lucky can triple your money?
If fighter B odds are 3.65 it means this fighter has less than one chance out of three to win while his opponent fighter A has more than tree chances out of four to win. Then if your bank roll is very low and about to be wiped out, you are more likely to go bankrupt by betting on the underdog than on the favorite.
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