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3641  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [announce] Register .bit domains with bitcoins (+ hosting) on: May 31, 2011, 02:45:35 PM
Now, simple question: how can people possibly visit a .bit website?

Easy for you, just use one of the DNS servers that support it.

The problem is getting other people to use them.
3642  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Corrupted wallet.dat - any way of repairing? on: May 31, 2011, 02:17:54 PM
You know he could just keep it himself, right?
3643  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [announce] Register .bit domains with bitcoins (+ hosting) on: May 31, 2011, 01:52:44 PM
I'm pretty sure it'll take more than $30,000 to get ICANN approval as a new TLD.
3644  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Pool shutdown attack on: May 31, 2011, 01:48:26 PM
No one has any idea where the error bars on the hash rate graphs should be.  On the 1 day line, they will be astronomically huge (not to mention the 8 hour window, lol).  Like several times the width of the plotted channel huge.

DO NOT MAKE ASSUMPTIONS BASED ON THOSE GRAPHS.  They are estimates, not measurements.
I'm not making assumptions based on "those graphs". I'm looking at the highly improbable gaps between blocks that can only really be justified on the basis of large hashrate graphs. e.g. times 50 minutes or longer has a p-value of .0067 if the expectation is 10 minutes— lower considering that we'd been running a rate higher than one per ten minutes.

Unrelated, it's no "No one has any idea"— Those graphs _are_ a measurement but of a noisy process, however the process in which coins are found is well understood, and you can easily draw confidence intervals based on the known distribution and the number of points in the average. I'll nag sipa to do this. It would be reasonable.

No, they are not measurements.  There is no way to measure how much work went into finding any given hash, unless you are actually monitoring each and every miner involved.

What these graphs do is divide the average amount of work to find a block by the actual time to find a given block.  Note that it is the "average" amount of work, not the actual amount of work.

Oh, and there is other nonsense around too.  Did anyone else notice the two consecutive blocks over the weekend, where the second block had a timestamp before the first block?  I'm pretty sure that block didn't really require a negative amount of hashing to get created.
3645  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [announce] Register .bit domains with bitcoins (+ hosting) on: May 31, 2011, 01:26:22 PM
So...  domain names that are totally invisible to the rest of the internet?  And you need to renew them every 12 weeks?

What's not to love?
3646  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Linuxcoin issue on: May 31, 2011, 01:10:19 PM
The client app is almost always a front end for something totally supported in Linux.

If you have a cellular connection, it probably works as a normal PPP dialup connection.
If you have some strange wireless connection, it probably runs PPPoE.
3647  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Mining with multiple machines on: May 31, 2011, 01:03:07 PM
In order from easiest to hardest:

1) Join an existing pool.
2) Run a single bitcoind and have each miner connect to it.
3) Run the flexible mining proxy and join many pools.
4) Run your own pool.

Option 3 is ideal for most people.  The best balance between resilience and effort.
3648  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: will the whole system stop working if all mining machines stop working? on: May 31, 2011, 12:42:41 PM
Oh, heh.  IP routing doesn't work like that.  You will never find yourself routing IP traffic accidentally.  There was an incident back in the late 80s, before BGP, but it doesn't work like that anymore.
It sounded more implausible with every word I typed, lol. My second criticism/worry still stands.

If a government can prevent bitcoin nodes inside their country's network, then it doesn't really matter if someone is able to get a pirate connection to the real internet, except to the person with the connection.
3649  Economy / Economics / Re: difficulty too high while bitcoin society too small on: May 31, 2011, 12:38:17 PM
Guys, it was just a psychological test. Why all of you do focus upon "vinyl vs. mp3" theme?
Why you do not focus on "bitcoin society vs. seti@home society growing rate"?

It is the kind of your thinking process: you focus on unrelevant themes, because they are more saturated emotionally. Vinil is a fetish itself, I know. Why we do not speak about girls? LOL))

Let's focus upon the main problem. Learn, how to control your thinking process from blur.

I'm starting to think that this whole thread is a psychological test.
3650  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: will the whole system stop working if all mining machines stop working? on: May 31, 2011, 11:37:09 AM
This is exactly my point. If there literally was only one computer connecting China and non-China, then all messages which need to cross from one side of the network to the other would go through that one computer. Unless it was set up correctly to be used purely for bitcoin, it would not only transfer the 300 bits per second of bitcoin, but all the terabytes/second of everybody in China requesting any website not in China. It would go down in an instant.

Even if it were set up to be used purely for bitcoin, it would receive connection requests of everybody in China requested any website not in China, and just refusing those requests would cause it to go down.

But I have to admit I don't know the details of routing protocols. How does this computer announce (falsely) that it doesn't have any routes to non-China? IP? BGP? I don't really know the technical details.

Also, if the Chinese government has a way to figure out where this computer is connecting to the Chinese network, they can cut it off, making it purely part of the non-China internet (even if the computer might physically be located inside China).

Oh, heh.  IP routing doesn't work like that.  You will never find yourself routing IP traffic accidentally.  There was an incident back in the late 80s, before BGP, but it doesn't work like that anymore.
3651  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Looking for a new pool on: May 31, 2011, 06:37:09 AM
I tested BTC Guild and Slush's pool, and I'm making nearly twice as much on Slush's pool. Go figure. Smiley

How long was your test?

I calculated my estimated BTC per day based on my total hashing power and the current difficulty, and I'm getting very, very close to that on BTC Guild.
3652  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Early speculator's reward antidote on: May 31, 2011, 06:32:19 AM
Quote from: unk
as i said, the point is apparently difficult to understand, but it is not a 'fiat' that forces you to use dollars to trade with others. it's your choice and other people's choices

Yes it is. Fiat forces me to pay taxes in dollars, and fiat punishes me with capital gains taxes if I use a non-inflating currency in trade. I have a choice, but that choice is between facing coercive action and using the fiat currency.

I think you are confused.  Men with guns force you to pay taxes in dollars.
3653  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: 4chan takes a chance on you on: May 31, 2011, 06:31:00 AM
I'm not "angry".   I just think this movement is silly, since anyone could pretend to be part of it.
Wouldn't pretending to be part of it make you part of it?

One of my friends is convinced that there is a 'real' anonymous, and they hide behind masses of posers.  He is totally unable to understand my view that anonymous is a collection of random douchebags, including a couple with some real talents and skills.

End result is about the same though. 
3654  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: many people talk about offline spend on: May 31, 2011, 06:26:02 AM
Er, wallets and addresses are kinda complicated.

If you understand public key cryptography, you can think of the wallet as holding private keys, and each of your addresses being a public key that matches one of your private keys.  The reality is a bit more involved though, or at least it can be.
3655  Economy / Economics / Re: Bootstrapping the Bitcoin Economy: Attracting Vendors on: May 31, 2011, 06:22:42 AM
Holy shit!  I got my new source for condoms!
3656  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Looking for a new pool on: May 31, 2011, 06:14:39 AM
I've been incredibly happy with BTC Guild, even when the server was overloaded.

Actually, the only possible reason I'd switch away from it is if it gets too big.  Sad
3657  Other / CPU/GPU Bitcoin mining hardware / Re: Mining accidents having caused physical damage (overheating hw, fires, etc) on: May 31, 2011, 06:12:51 AM
Strange.  He must be really unlucky.  I've had every imaginable type of heatsinking compound all over my fingers before and never had any side effects from it.
3658  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: many people talk about offline spend on: May 31, 2011, 06:00:00 AM
Yes.  That is the flaw in these schemes.

For offline spending, you need a trusted third party.  Which isn't that big of a deal, really.  The current financial reality is trusted third parties as far as the eye can see.
3659  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Early speculator's reward antidote on: May 31, 2011, 05:55:46 AM
this is turning into an ideology argument, there's a subforum for this

There is?  Can it be true?  How I've longed for a "Hello, I'm new to Bitcoin, and I have some really bad ideas to fix things that I think are broken because I don't understand them" subforum.  Oh, happy day!
3660  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Early speculator's reward antidote on: May 31, 2011, 03:43:12 AM
4. A conversion feature allows BTC to be permanently converted to BCP.  This feature works by DESTROYING the BTC from the BTC client's perspective - by sending them to a nonexistent BTC address that correlates to a specific BCP address, which the new client recognizes as a conversion.  But here is the rub - the amount of BCP you get in a conversion is directly correlated to the mining difficulty of the BTC you're trying to convert, as calculated by following the coins all the way back to their generation.  An algorithm deterministically decides the difficulty value of coins that were combined at any point in their history.  All of those BTC mined at difficulty 1 won't be worth squat if converted to BCP, so users may as well leave them as BTC.  (The client calculates how much your conversion would be worth and allows you to convert only the coins that are worth converting... the difficulty-weighted rate makes it only wortk your while to transfer recently mined BTC into BCP).

Tracing coins back to their coinbase isn't as simple as you make it sound.

Try it.  http://blockexplorer.com/address/1GD8Qh7ebmvdaB8Ampcq8qZqNPr78nzjSP
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