How about quantum physics? All matter originates and exists only by virtue of a force... We must assume behind this force the existence of a conscious and intelligent Mind. This Mind is the matrix of all matter.
- Max Planck You're assuming there is only one reality. |
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Exactly, 10 weeks of exponential evolution.
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You're still looking evidence, which is something we can measure, correct? We can only measure things in this reality, correct? Don't you think it may be a little egotistical to think this is the only reality? Spirituality is something you must see, feel, experience, for yourself.
It seems we're going in circles, I don't know what question you wanted me to answer that I haven't already.
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Oh, playing guitar doesn't take work. The strings move by their self.
The thing with playing guitar is that you not only have to work to make the strings move, you also neet to be able to put intention into it in some skillfull way. None of your material shows any skill at making strings move in an acoustcally pleasing or otherwise cohesive way. What you presented is nothing more than moving strings. Music is not about moving strings, it is about structuring sounds no matter where they come from. So while you may be working, you do not create anything of any appreciable value from expending that energy. I mean, it takes time to learn an instrument. I never claimed to be a master, at this point. |
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Well if careers are so superior, why don't we just make a federal law requiring every human being to have a 'career.' Who needs freedom, when fgervais can choose for you?
Superiority is disgusting.
Implying that one needs a university diploma to have a career. Fine, be a drifter, constantly switching from one dead-end minimal wage job to another, "asking" your parents to cover rent and depending on mystery checks. Oh wait, billionaire rockstar shisha bar owner 1000 acre land developer seasteader in 10 weeks. My bad. And I already hear you cry "but that was last year, doesn't count". Bitch please, you were begging for 5 mil in February. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=48949.0I am a different person, completely, from February. You're not open to freedom of choice, it seems. One needs nothing other than the free will to do as they wish. Hope any children you may have doesn't have their own dream to follow, your expectations will be crushed. |
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You cannot argue they both happen because if we take the chemical out it does not happen at all.
What? You said earlier :"I'm not arguing against the chemical reactions that occur, I'm saying it can happen both ways, simultaneously." So, as i understand it, you say the feeling of love is mediated by both chemicals and some mystic power of 'universal love' or something. I'm just telling you that there is only the chemical acting on your neural system and nothing else. If you take away the chemical you cannot experience the feeling of love. There is no other 'simultanious' spiritual way of this happening. Have you tried taking away the chemical(s)? Is it not possible spirituality causes the chemical reaction in the first place? In absence of chemicals, or even death, I think you will find plentiful amounts of love. Regarding your other post, I don't think man is the 'summum' of evolution, it's an example, since we are humans. Religions are based on spirituality, they are different flavors of man's understanding of the universe. And yes, they became largely corrupt. I have experienced the other side, I can testify on it's behalf based on experience. May I remind, I used to be straight forward atheist, I wasn't indoctrinated to think the way I do. It took very real spiritual experiences to shape my belief and make me believe in god. I can't prove the existence of something, someone else has not experienced, to them, it's up to you to find it yourself. If you're not open to the possibility of it, just as many people weren't open to the possibility of earth being round, you will never find it, in this life. |
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Well if careers are so superior, why don't we just make a federal law requiring every human being to have a 'career.' Who needs freedom, when fgervais can choose for you?
Superiority is disgusting.
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You cannot argue they both happen because if we take the chemical out it does not happen at all.
What? |
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You're still taking the presumption that your lack of experience indicates lack of existence. I don't see why a spiritual world and our world can't coexist. My interactions with the spiritual realm, throughout my life, has given me the experience to believe in it and know it's existence.
If you ask anybody who has had a divine spiritual experience, they'll tell you it's more real than our world is. The question then becomes, if our reality is real, why was the spiritual reality more real? Is our reality real?
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I'm not arguing against the chemical reactions that occur, I'm saying it can happen both ways, simultaneously. Regarding the direction of evolution, there certainly is a goal to understand the universe. Everything man has ever done has increased our awareness and knowledge of the universe. If there had to be one purpose to life (but there's not, you create your own purpose) it would be to increase your awareness, in my opinion. We are created by the universe, of the universe, to learn about the universe. That would be the wise conclusion, in my opinion, for systematically decreasing awareness would certainly cease our existence. What did you do today as a consequence of your beliefs that makes your life more valid or meaningful than a coal miner or a shop assistant or an insurance salesman? What do you actually do with your beliefs? Sacrifice chickens? meditate? Chant hare krishna?
My life is no more valid or meaningful than anyone else's. I feel my beliefs are more wise, as love has the potential to end humanity's problems, so I take the incentive to spread love by any means necessary, to enact the change into reality. Other people do this too, more and more do it each day. As more people love, act out of their consciousness, we become one conscious community of humans, working together. I think that's the wise thing to do, rather than fight each other. |
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Oh, playing guitar doesn't take work. The strings move by their self. You're advocating your form of work is superior to others. Are you going to be some pervy fat weirdo who thinks he can play the guitar but sucks and lives with his parents all your life? I don't live with my parents, I'm in shape for the first time in my life, I even have a six pack, never woulda guessed. I thank karma and love for it, since years of working out with ego and negativity never got me anywhere. You know, I don't normally say this, but you are someone who could benefit from a few years in the Army and a tour or two of Afghanistan. Oh, yes, killing people is way more beneficial than spreading love through music. |
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Yup, that too. Try being concious while your brain is not working.  In fact, it gets incredibly weird. What we call conciousness is really an aggregate of several more or less independant parts of the brain. Some people have a disfunctioning 'aggregator' and their conciousness is not singular but consists of multiple parts concerned with the different parts of the 'being' experience. And there are loads of cases where people with specific brain damage have specific changes to what they experience as consiousness. It's interesting to see, for instance, what happens to people when their brrain is split (the link between the two halves is severed). These people have a unique way of functioning that alows us to map certain subconcious operations of the brain. It shows, for instance, that we have a part in our brain that no matter the quality of given information will allways come up with an answer, but it doesn't care about how accurate that answer is. Hence we humans have the capacity to think of a possible story even if we don't know the actual facts. You should realy look that up on the internet, it's incredibly fascinating. That's fine, but science does not disprove spirituality. Being conscious while your brain isn't working would be to return to our pure conscious energy form. I wonder how many people who do astral projecting can verify it scientifically.
It should be easy, project yourself to a place where you can identify something without having seen it before.
Well, there have been a shitload of these tests with people claiming they can do extrasensory shit and all.
And guess what, no actual effects on the actual real universe in all cases.
Noone who claimed they can project themselfs somewhere was able to guess the subject any better than random chance.
James Randi has some good information.
Incidentally, the foundation he started is still (for at least 30 or 40 years now) offering a very large sum of money to anyone who can show an actual real effect of their presumed psychic powers. Needless to say, lots have tried and noone has succeeded.
That's because they're trying to prove supernatural happenings for their ego, for money. It only occurs in absence of ego. Astral projecting is not necessarily traveling our reality. While I have heard of it, I have only traveled other realities. Again, you can't verify or disprove spirituality with science, science is limited to our reality. Perhaps we will find a way, besides quantum physics, to further validate the alternative forms of energy around us. |
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Giving me money is not an investment because...?
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It's a subjective assessment rather a fact, per se., but I would be interested to hear about what talents you think he has. Personally I think the world would be better if him and Dank were deathfucked by Georgie Proudfoot.
I love you too, brother. |
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Clearly anything from within is not going to be truth, as every single person is different, each will have their own 'truth' hence making the word truth obsolete by its own definitions, so no, the truth does not lie within, your own OPINIONS and INTERPRETATION do however.
This is your error. Every single person is not different, we all share one consciousness, thus, will reach the same truth as each other. Look at any spiritual culture and even religions, they are all based on the same principles of love. Your opinions lay outside, for you must formulate an opinion based off what you experience in this world. |
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Religion ≠ spirituality.
Life is eternal, you only change forms after death, back to your original state as a soul.
Death is the rebirth of your spirit, it's a beautiful thing. Though you may never physically see a passed one, in this reality, again, a bond remains between your soul and those who are close to you, after death.
When my Grandma passed away, my cousin, very young at the time (5-7?) picked up the phone, a few days later, and told her Mom that Grandma had called her. Spiritual happenings are often experiences by kids, as they are young and much closer to the pure, conscious state of mind.
spirituality ≠ real actual universe. Start by understanding the instrument which we use to observe the universe (our brain) and you will understand that what you call spirituality is a product of the grey stuff in your head and not a property of the universe as a whole. Can you explain on that? Grey stuff makes people have spiritual experiences? What about consciousness? I'm curious as to how many people that talk about spirituality on here have even tried something like meditating, let alone astral projecting. |
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So I can grow faster, is there an issue with parents supporting their son?
When their son is jobless and not going to school, then yes -- yes there is an issue with that. It means that instead of being an adult and learning to balance hobbies and work, you are simply taking handouts from your parents. Even if you have plans to turn your hobbies into a profession, if and until that happens, you need to earn your own money and not accept handouts. If you have a method for making more than 1.2-2%/month, your parents should see you as independent and no longer a child who needs their support. Because getting four years of your life paid for, by going to college, is in no way a handout. |
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So I can grow faster, is there an issue with parents supporting their son?
I'm really curious, has anyone tried gazing directly into their eyes, for 30 seconds, in a mirror?
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Nobody said anything about needing.
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