And when a coin releases a more profitable coin with a lower cost of entry, will you maintain a dash masternode or move onto that coin? With the reward system set at 1000 masternodes for most profitability this is not an if but a when. I always feel like I'm at work talking to one of those people who can't see past the next five seconds when I'm talking to an xdarkdashian.



^This is motivation to attack other masternodes to keep a sweet spot for profitability (as Fluffy brilliantly pointed out once or twice). The problem with this model isn't that it does it, it's what happens when people notice it and start flocking to a similarly designed coin with better payouts or a less gamed design--it becomes a race to the bottom.


So my simple question to Brilliant Rocket is this, "If another coin is offering a better incentive for operating a masternode and the price starts rising exponentially, will xdarkdashians hold out of loyalty or move to where the most profit is?

And I swear I'm not trying to convince myself to buy crave or other centralizing node junk. I'm just pointing out a very likely scenario.


I do agree that services that reward people for holding are a good idea, I just don't think we should be using flawed models as inspiration.

Until I see wild animals and insects hug-it-out, I'll stick with believing that nature programs us much differently than our intentions do and that is why many times the path to hell is paved with good intentions and good men discover themselves along the path to greed. Off-topic, but maybe we get stronger through surviving aggression and that's why Otoh's dump looks more and more like a bullish sign for our future.

Whatever doesn't kill us makes us stronger or drives us to a catatonic state after hugging it out with a horse.

I'm not going to even get into the amorality or short-sighted strategy of your conclusion--no intention of repeating my opinion. Where I flaw your argument is in the bolded part. There's no possible way you can account for every last person knowing that dash was instamined, hence why dash fans were quick to rally and have the premine asterisks removed from coinmarketcap. As long as people are entering the market and discovering the altcoin thread, the more it makes sense to keep bumping it and restating the facts.

Fact: Over 500k coins were mined in the first hour.

Fact: Over 1.5 million coins were mined in the first day.

This poll is highlighting facts, so what can you do but make it an us versus them  scenario to fit the, "They're out to get us!" narrative that has nothing to do with facts? If you don't want to defend an instamine, then don't defend an instamine.

Would it be hard to sync market data with a better looking site that uses devtome's analysis to give investors the best chance of avoiding scams and coins that are surreptitiously top-heavy?

It's weird that cmc lists premines but not instamines, but if they're unwilling to give total reporting, why not let the market decide on if it wants to know all the facts before investing? Maybe call it SturgeonsRazor.com?

Blocka, if you don't want to defend an instamine, don't defend an instamine.

As for speculation (topic) looks like Otoh can't dump Monero into oblivion. Everyday that passes looks like a launchpad being assembled for a db fueled rocket. Can't wait until services start opening up and use gathers momentum. Are there any plans for something that offers large OTC so big trades can be made without over-burdening the price?

My guess is that there are more idealist and rationals in the top-end of this field (at least as far as devs are concerned) than there are guardians and artisans, so your assumption defies common sense when taking this into account and the fact that most theoretical thinkers are motivated by other things than cash. Your assumption would hold true in many fields, but when it comes to the crossroads of mathematics, cryptography and computer science i think most will agree that it is especially top heavy with rationals and idealist. Of course I'm sure scams are heavy with opportunistic artisans, but I hardly think they count when we are discussing serious projects, because isn't that exactly the behavior we are trying to mitigate by having correct and honest labels for coins listed on CCM?

And again, where is your argument that dash wasn't instamined and that somehow an instamine doesn't have the same negative impact as a premine? These questions would seem more on topic.

How do you measure human interest mathematically? Instamines can be shown pretty easily. Now if your inferring (incorrectly) that all humans are motivated by greed, I suggest you study differing personalities. Here's a good start: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungian_cognitive_functions

Also, satiated individuals work less often times, so there really isn't a correlation between wealth achieved and future wealth created--it may even work inversely in some cases, so there's that.

Sorry we all don't fit your cynical world view, but what can you do about it except project your own greed and try to normalize the asocial behavior of your associates--


Where is your argument that I'm incorrect? I'm motivated by being right, so if you're trying to get at me, you might want to try harder at being correct. Have you refuted that dash is an instamine? Have you made a case that an instamine is much different in effect than a premine?

Do you list premines as a service to potential investors so as they don't make investment decisions based on zero-knowledge of an unfair coin launch? And isn't an instamine a similarly unfair launch as it has the same effect of giving devs (and friends of devs) too much centralization/power over the project? Isn't this worth noting?

This doesn't even take into account coins that were fairly launched having to share the stage with those that didn't--this is very reminiscent of the steroid scandal in baseball, where players who weren't taking performance enhancing drugs had their accomplishments overshadowed (and sometimes tainted)  by those that were cheating.

You're just rambling without any facts to support your argument.

Fact 1. x/dark/dash had over 500k in coins mined in the first hour.

Fact 2. x/dark/dash had over 1.5 million coins mined in the first day.

Until you provide evidence that these facts aren't true, dash should be listed as an instamine; if over 500k in the first hour isn't an instamine, what is?

Crying, "But he did too!" by comparing an instamine to enhanced miners is like comparing organic apples to genetically mutated oranges shaped in the likeness of Rossie O'donnell--it's an insult to the intelligence of everyone reading this thread.  

Until this goes away https://i.imgur.com/dSe9cRz.jpg , no future investor should be duped into a false sense of propriety by misleading listings that do not include major activities that would be deemed as fraudulent by an objective observer.

I get the feeling Risto has learned something about human behavior: If you tell people exactly what you are going to do and how you are going to do it, there's a portion of the population that will think you are lying or scheming for an advantage. Bono summed it up with, "It's no secret a liar won't believe anyone else." I call it self-inflicted karma.

So Gliss is in the habit of not making well thought adjustments of coins and then readjusting them a few hours later on the fly? Ineptitude versus BS, sound familiar? As Mark Twain said, "history doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

And it's gone 


Guess they'll have some excuse lined-up now.

Dash apologists are gathering muster to have Evan's instamine stricken from coinmarketcap.com's listing. Will they use economic threats to get things back to the status qua via their common link of shapeshift.io? Or will they just spam coinmarketcap.com relentlessly until they get what they want? Or will coinmarketcap.com remain vigilant in keeping the facts open and honest?

Glad I could help fix that for you--never good to have typos.  

Caveat emptor

All you had to do is line up the facts and ask, apparently. Glad they did the right thing.

You believe wrong because LTC and BTC have known botnets (I'm sure dash has a botnet or fifty--thus destroying your point) and have this centralizing feature. I'm using centralizing as a feature very loosely. And it's not that I'm running out of arguments, it's that until dash is gone, you're going to keep seeing this one over and over and over again. It's like they say in the NFL, "If you don't like it, stop us."

Make a bigger deal out of it when anyone (including Evan) solves botnet mining. Also can he go back in time and relaunch his coin fairly so as you and the other apologists don't have to deflect so much? It must be tiring, but good, no rest for the devil and all.

If you're intent on holding, I would say there will most likely be a bolide event between the official db and the official GUI release.