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April 08, 2014, 02:34:06 AM
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But even more so, as you said, you printed it off. Maybe I'll just break into your house and look around when you're at work.

1.) For $700, most of what I said is not realistic, but for $2000, $5000, $10,000? You bet your ass it is to some people.

Of course, and you can steal even more than 1000 DRK by breaking into my house. What does that have to do with running a DRK node? I can think of a lot of easier ways to pick a house for breaking into.

May be, if 1 DRK will worth >=10$. Oh well, I will be paranoid about my DRK (assuming I am still holding that much)! But I guess the masternode requirement will be lowered by then and I can keep most if it somewhere safer.

About the keypool, if the node is already running, why would you need to refill the keypool offline, all you would have to do is login to the node and run "./darkcoind keypoolrefill" and then backup the latest wallet. Realistically you could setup a cron script to do it that would be just as secure as doing it manually. (if someone got access to the server, they have the wallet, them finding out you encrypted it with a key and then pushed it into a S3 bucket named "wedding_photos.zip" (bonus points if you made the archive actually contain wedding photos which would fool *most* hackers if they got their hands on it) wouldn't matter, they would be able to download it straight from the server)

That's the problem...
I never want to expose my password to an online machine until I absolutely have to (which is when I want to spend the coins from that wallet).
Having to periodically refill the keypool makes this complicated.
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April 08, 2014, 02:43:30 AM
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Dark Wallet getting ready to for live testing.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/227lne/darkwallet_update/

Interesting Q&A:

Q. Will it be possible to connect the wallet to other cryptocurrencies? Litecoin, Peercoin, Primecoin, etc.

A. caedesv

The first version is going to be bitcoin only (well and testnet coin but maybe not at the same time). This way we avoid some complexity and also can deliver on the initial promises.

For next stage we're totally considering make it multi-currency (and other goals). Should be easy and at least with some coins looks like we can even use the same bip32 tree, one key, many currencies.

Could someone who knows their sh*t explain to me to difference between Darkcoin and Darkwallet? Is it likely to make DRK redundant? I certainly hope not as a fan/holder of DRK!

Anyone? A little help  Smiley

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April 08, 2014, 02:44:27 AM
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Can someone explain to me what is going on in this block/transaction?  Block 17543 (000000000542628747303786cb09be1456998508cc3d70ede07b16c20fe75514), the only transaction (1b4c93a3bf49ad4855f74121aea68517b1073fd3a75943e19f956ae553cd2207), specifically the third output

And to make things easier, here is the transaction:

It's easier to see in the explorer:
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/tx.dws?1b4c93a3bf49ad4855f74121aea68517b1073fd3a75943e19f956ae553cd2207.htm

It looks like some coin was sent but it was broken up in a payment and a fee?  But not sure?

It's p2pool generated block.

example
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/block.dws?000000000003d78e2cd82a158647a806a64bc179d8357735280c0825fd4b42e4.htm
http://chainz.cryptoid.info/drk/tx.dws?199138.htm
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April 08, 2014, 03:03:26 AM
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What shares issue?

Old news, pre-DGW I think.

No, basically after updating to the new mpos, we had to fix the amount of displayed shares in MPOS because it was not correct anymore. We now have the right values so our stats are now showing more accurate numbers. X11 is not supported by MPOS officially.

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April 08, 2014, 03:05:10 AM
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Dark Wallet getting ready to for live testing.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/227lne/darkwallet_update/

Interesting Q&A:

Q. Will it be possible to connect the wallet to other cryptocurrencies? Litecoin, Peercoin, Primecoin, etc.

A. caedesv

The first version is going to be bitcoin only (well and testnet coin but maybe not at the same time). This way we avoid some complexity and also can deliver on the initial promises.

For next stage we're totally considering make it multi-currency (and other goals). Should be easy and at least with some coins looks like we can even use the same bip32 tree, one key, many currencies.

Could someone who knows their sh*t explain to me to difference between Darkcoin and Darkwallet? Is it likely to make DRK redundant? I certainly hope not as a fan/holder of DRK!

Dark wallet is a centralized mixing service where you use a browser extension to anonymize transactions.  Look at this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FA7TIA6.png  . You can see it's routing all of the traffic through gateway.unsystem.net.

So here's our advantages vs dark wallet:

1.) We're decentralized. The clients automatically discover all masternodes and will use those
2.) Everyone will use DarkSend by default. The problem with a product you must setup like this is you'll have far fewer legitimate users to mix with.  
3.) Masternodes create a new type of investment opportunity within our ecosystem much like mining. The result? We get a ton of super high quality full nodes, anonymity and happy investors.
4.) If they're accepting inputs and outputs separately they can be shut down simply by a user offering an input, but refusing to send the output. If they're accepting inputs and outputs together, it's not anonymous and it MUST be decentralized to spread the knowledge of who did what to keep anonymity. My guess is they're taking inputs and outputs separately and banning inputs that do this. In that case you could attack it by using another mixing service to get fresh inputs.

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April 08, 2014, 03:21:29 AM
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Dark Wallet getting ready to for live testing.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/227lne/darkwallet_update/

Interesting Q&A:

Q. Will it be possible to connect the wallet to other cryptocurrencies? Litecoin, Peercoin, Primecoin, etc.

A. caedesv

The first version is going to be bitcoin only (well and testnet coin but maybe not at the same time). This way we avoid some complexity and also can deliver on the initial promises.

For next stage we're totally considering make it multi-currency (and other goals). Should be easy and at least with some coins looks like we can even use the same bip32 tree, one key, many currencies.

Could someone who knows their sh*t explain to me to difference between Darkcoin and Darkwallet? Is it likely to make DRK redundant? I certainly hope not as a fan/holder of DRK!

Dark wallet is a centralized mixing service where you use a browser extension to anonymize transactions.  Look at this screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FA7TIA6.png  . You can see it's routing all of the traffic through gateway.unsystem.net.

So here's our advantages vs dark wallet:

1.) We're decentralized. The clients automatically discover all masternodes and will use those
2.) Everyone will use DarkSend by default. The problem with a product you must setup like this is you'll have far fewer legitimate users to mix with.  
3.) Masternodes create a new type of investment opportunity within our ecosystem much like mining. The result? We get a ton of super high quality full nodes, anonymity and happy investors.
4.) If they're accepting inputs and outputs separately they can be shut down simply by a user offering an input, but refusing to send the output. If they're accepting inputs and outputs together, it's not anonymous and it MUST be decentralized to spread the knowledge of who did what to keep anonymity.

Thanks for the explanation, Evan. Darkwallet is certainly inferior. I'm not worried now!

It bugs me that they're getting all the attention and you're not. Just a Google search of Darkwallet brings up a lot of hits.
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April 08, 2014, 03:23:11 AM
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It seems like -keypoolsize allows for <=500 keys (it will generate more but it won't save the rest in the wallet.dat file).
I think this should be increased by a few magnitudes for DarkCoin.
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April 08, 2014, 03:38:00 AM
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what is the best way at this time to buy DRK.

From Fiat.

Buy litecoin or Bitcoin ?

Where to buy them from fiat ?

Where to exchange Lite/bitcoin to DRK.

Most people recommend to buy bitcoin on Coinbase, then send it to Cryptsy and buy DRK there.
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April 08, 2014, 03:38:29 AM
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what is the best way at this time to buy DRK.

From Fiat.

Buy litecoin or Bitcoin ?

Where to buy them from fiat ?

Where to exchange Lite/bitcoin to DRK.


well...cryptsy is good for btc/ltc or many other cryptos to drk. Moolah has a website to convert fiat to alts. prelude.io
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April 08, 2014, 03:44:09 AM
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Just a reminder to everyone - if you haven't subscribed to http://www.reddit.com/r/DRKCoin/ please do so!

We should try to build the community as large as we can before the release of darksend!  Grin
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April 08, 2014, 04:03:41 AM
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Evan,
Darksend is a much bigger feature than what it seems to be in the windows wallet (just a checkbox in 'send' tab currently).

Instead of having this checkbox inside the 'Send' tab, I propose the following:
1) remove 'Use DarkSend' checkbox
2) add a 'DarkSend' tab between the 'Send' and 'Receive' tabs*
3) this new tab looks and functions exactly the same as the send tab but it uses darksend technology when submitting.


This will be much better UX to differentiate this technology from standard technology.

* You can also consider putting darksend tab before the send tab.

I don't like redundancy. What about this? -> The QT client immediately switches to a darker GUI skin (basically a dark gray [current coin logo color] bakcground) whenever DarkSend is checked. (And may be the checkbox gets a little bit more notabale on the Send tab.)

Just remember, newbies already find wallets confusing. They are simple and easy to navigate if you use them regularly.



True, but I like coinzcoinzcoinz suggestion, because as he later said, you can explain how darksend works, warn of disconnection fee, etc... make a nice big progress bar or some such to show how things are progressing, and have room for that information, making it less complex to use in the end (along with a warning that you're not using privacy features in the send tab)

Wallet is ok for now IMO.  Get the main event sorted (DarkSend), then worry about stuff like this.

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April 08, 2014, 04:31:37 AM
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Evan, I have a question about the specifics of a darksend transaction. I don't remember the answer being in the documentation released thus far.

Can darksends be sent with just the inputs properly signed by the private key, but without the private key actually being present? For example, can I create the tx on an offline computer and only move the transaction info to my online computer, and send it from there?
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April 08, 2014, 05:24:26 AM
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what is the best way at this time to buy DRK.

From Fiat.

Buy litecoin or Bitcoin ?

Where to buy them from fiat ?

Where to exchange Lite/bitcoin to DRK.

Most people recommend to buy bitcoin on Coinbase, then send it to Cryptsy and buy DRK there.

Coinbase need USA adress, too bad

Check if you can use kraken.com.
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April 08, 2014, 06:09:38 AM
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I have setup a Masternode.
- Ubuntu 64bit
- wallet encrypted
- with p2pool

Code:
./darkcoind --help
DarkCoin version v0.10.3.0-4-gb091e63-beta

2014-04-07 23:09:00 RegisterAsMasterNode
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Found unspent output equal to nValue
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Is capable master node!


I wasn't this lucky.

Code:
Got NEW masternode entry
!coins.IsAvailable COutPoint(517b323b43cdb93fb254d40fafb105d2b9527d917d0046139823eb6a928a565a, 1)
false5
ERROR: CTxMemPool::acceptableInputs() : inputs already spent
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April 08, 2014, 06:17:27 AM
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I have setup a Masternode.
- Ubuntu 64bit
- wallet encrypted
- with p2pool

Code:
./darkcoind --help
DarkCoin version v0.10.3.0-4-gb091e63-beta

2014-04-07 23:09:00 RegisterAsMasterNode
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Found unspent output equal to nValue
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Is capable master node!


I wasn't this lucky.

Code:
Got NEW masternode entry
!coins.IsAvailable COutPoint(517b323b43cdb93fb254d40fafb105d2b9527d917d0046139823eb6a928a565a, 1)
false5
ERROR: CTxMemPool::acceptableInputs() : inputs already spent

Looks to me like only 989 of the DRK you sent made it to your destination node.

Your output posted: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/517b323b43cdb93fb254d40fafb105d2b9527d917d0046139823eb6a928a565a

But it was already sent off, and the large final output is 989: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/3f2e6bf24bf82023c3f9ff51c9bd82c1032977caa39e34ce92c4199ade70777d#i0
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April 08, 2014, 06:30:23 AM
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I have setup a Masternode.
- Ubuntu 64bit
- wallet encrypted
- with p2pool

Code:
./darkcoind --help
DarkCoin version v0.10.3.0-4-gb091e63-beta

2014-04-07 23:09:00 RegisterAsMasterNode
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Found unspent output equal to nValue
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Is capable master node!


I wasn't this lucky.

Code:
Got NEW masternode entry
!coins.IsAvailable COutPoint(517b323b43cdb93fb254d40fafb105d2b9527d917d0046139823eb6a928a565a, 1)
false5
ERROR: CTxMemPool::acceptableInputs() : inputs already spent

Looks to me like only 989 of the DRK you sent made it to your destination node.

Your output posted: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/517b323b43cdb93fb254d40fafb105d2b9527d917d0046139823eb6a928a565a

But it was already sent off, and the large final output is 989: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/3f2e6bf24bf82023c3f9ff51c9bd82c1032977caa39e34ce92c4199ade70777d#i0

I though it might won't be as easy that I simply withdraw 1000 DRK from Cryptsy. Grin
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April 08, 2014, 06:33:14 AM
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WTB DRK
http://www.reddit.com/r/darkcoinmarket/comments/22hph6/bd_want_to_buy_600_drk/

How the best to do direct trade by paypal  ?

nobody will sell you any coins for paypal

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April 08, 2014, 06:40:07 AM
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WTB DRK
http://www.reddit.com/r/darkcoinmarket/comments/22hph6/bd_want_to_buy_600_drk/

How the best to do direct trade by paypal  ?

nobody will sell you any coins for paypal

Once I sold [I don't even remember how many] BAT coins for 1$ (my Ebay auction started from there). Grin



I have setup a Masternode.
- Ubuntu 64bit
- wallet encrypted
- with p2pool

Code:
./darkcoind --help
DarkCoin version v0.10.3.0-4-gb091e63-beta

2014-04-07 23:09:00 RegisterAsMasterNode
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Found unspent output equal to nValue
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Is capable master node!


I wasn't this lucky.

Code:
Got NEW masternode entry
!coins.IsAvailable COutPoint(517b323b43cdb93fb254d40fafb105d2b9527d917d0046139823eb6a928a565a, 1)
false5
ERROR: CTxMemPool::acceptableInputs() : inputs already spent

Looks to me like only 989 of the DRK you sent made it to your destination node.

Your output posted: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/517b323b43cdb93fb254d40fafb105d2b9527d917d0046139823eb6a928a565a

But it was already sent off, and the large final output is 989: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/3f2e6bf24bf82023c3f9ff51c9bd82c1032977caa39e34ce92c4199ade70777d#i0

I though it might won't be as easy that I simply withdraw 1000 DRK from Cryptsy. Grin

Wait... This is my DRK address and it seemed to receive 1 input of 1000 DRK: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/address/XueD9FWPpkzV3JGpGAjZDuYYtme41C1Ton
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April 08, 2014, 06:47:29 AM
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Why are you concerned about the Name Darkcoin Huh

Don´t you think people will recognice soon the our banking system and the US$ ( and all fiat currencys) are gigantic ponzi scheme running
by centralbanks. Wait until they build a rfid into your dollar and get your childs registered by a chip as sonn as they are born to control anything.

We need a payment system like Darkcoin in future - Not for illigal things, only for dayly use to not let us be like a glass human.
We need protection for ourself. Big companys and government do not have to know what i am daily doing and on what i spend my hard earned money.

So Dark is the best name you can choose  
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April 08, 2014, 06:52:36 AM
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WTB DRK
http://www.reddit.com/r/darkcoinmarket/comments/22hph6/bd_want_to_buy_600_drk/

How the best to do direct trade by paypal  ?

nobody will sell you any coins for paypal

Once I sold [I don't even remember how many] BAT coins for 1$ (my Ebay auction started from there). Grin



I have setup a Masternode.
- Ubuntu 64bit
- wallet encrypted
- with p2pool

Code:
./darkcoind --help
DarkCoin version v0.10.3.0-4-gb091e63-beta

2014-04-07 23:09:00 RegisterAsMasterNode
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Found unspent output equal to nValue
2014-04-07 23:09:00 Is capable master node!


I wasn't this lucky.

Code:
Got NEW masternode entry
!coins.IsAvailable COutPoint(517b323b43cdb93fb254d40fafb105d2b9527d917d0046139823eb6a928a565a, 1)
false5
ERROR: CTxMemPool::acceptableInputs() : inputs already spent

Looks to me like only 989 of the DRK you sent made it to your destination node.

Your output posted: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/517b323b43cdb93fb254d40fafb105d2b9527d917d0046139823eb6a928a565a

But it was already sent off, and the large final output is 989: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/tx/3f2e6bf24bf82023c3f9ff51c9bd82c1032977caa39e34ce92c4199ade70777d#i0

I though it might won't be as easy that I simply withdraw 1000 DRK from Cryptsy. Grin

Wait... This is my DRK address and it seemed to receive 1 input of 1000 DRK: http://explorer.darkcoin.io/address/XueD9FWPpkzV3JGpGAjZDuYYtme41C1Ton
That is very strange, because the output your client is looking at to see if you are able to be a master node isn't related to that address at all.
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