Naja, wenn du absolut keine Ahnung hast wie die Passphrase ist, hast du (bei einer brauchbaren Phrase) eigentlich so gut wie keine Chance sie zu knacken. Was ja auch gut so ist, den sie soll ja deine Wallet vor Diebstahl schützen.

Wenn du ungefähr weist, wie die Passphrase war, etwa 90%+ der Buchstaben richtig, gibt es tools mit denen sich das wieder herstellen lässt.

Hab ich hier im Forum schon öfters gesehen.

Suchfunktion benutzen.

Even if he does everything according to contract.

Stopping payout to drive the prize down just to make a buyback far below the IPO Prise / the prise it was traded before the announcement is scamming. (At least it is bending the contract in a fraudulent way)

If Time shows that he really did it this way than he is a scammer, IMO.

If he buy back shares for the average prize before his announcement to stop payouts, than don't.

I thought bitcoin would have made me a quattuordecillionaire by now, but it hasn't.

Damn you bitcoin.

Where did I say, that the exit strategy will be set in stone because the issuer says so? He still has to stay by his contract (so nobody gets shares stolen, no profit for the issuer by saying shareholder have to do as he says). But he could buyback shares according to contract or make arrangements with another exchange (for example.)

Still better than Nefario just hitting a Killswitch

I personally have no problem that GLBSE delists some assets. IMO, they even have to delist some assets.

I only have a problem with they way this was handled. This seems really unprofessional.

A Professional solution would have been (could still be) (IMO, of course):

• Notify Goat that his assets will be delisted, give him one week time to work out a exit strategy.
• After that week make a public notification or a user notification on GLBSE, with a link to a thread where Goat has a chance to present his exit strategy
• Give him at least 3 Weeks Time for his exit

Why has this to be done so suddenly?
This precedent that any asset could be kicked of immediately, if the issuer just pissed you off enough may give some people a uneasy feeling.

Generell wäre ich ja interresiert. Problem ist, dass ich über 50% der spiele selbst schon habe. Die möglichkeit einzelne Spiele in Steam weiterzuverschenken gibt es nicht, oder?

Sonst wäre ich bereit dir Angebote für einzelne Games zu machen.

Great, this bullshit is the first I see when I google news bitcoin 

Of course there is a way. All he needs to do is send coins from an address which found a block in 2009.

He could have get the private key for that address another way, but that's very unlikely.

Hello together,

I just stumbled over this: http://vimeo.com/blog/post:523

This would be a good implemention for bitcoins. Sadly I found no contact information on the side.

Does someone know this side / know how to get in contact with them and is able to write them a introduction into Bitcoin better than I would with my weak English?

Why has nobody (reliable) seen aliens.

Just imagine, you are on a spaceship travelling through space then you notice a potential planet for having live. You come closer, it's a green planet with plenty of water. Live definitely exist. Just before you land you do the routine scan.

You shipmate says to you: "The planed hast 8 Billion intelligent beings on a industrial level. They seem to just have invented cryptocurrency."

You: "Well awesome, lets land!"

He: "They are 8 Billion, but they have build enough thermonuclear weapon to kill 50 Billion."

Well if that's not a big "leave us alone sign", than what is?

Please stop bashing at GLBSE: That's no the point of this discussion.

And if you want to be a serious concurrent, work on you site, it's unusable for anyone not suffering from a Savant syndrome.


Back to topic:

Nefario, I can understand you are upset, but please try for a moment to see it from the perspective from Tygrr shareholders. Removing all Tygrr assets instantly, without further notice to the shareholders is like a punch in the face from you to all Tygrr shareholders.

Please reconsider this.

Wow, I didn't know there where such classification. That's exactly what I thought what Goats problem is, but failed to describe it.

I don't mean that offensive. That is just really the way I think Goat ticks.

That's what I meant when I said: "This whole thing has already escalated to much."

I takes you both to deescalate this, but you have started this and I think its up to you to take the first step.

This will only work out if both of you swallow their pride and work towards an agreement you could both live with.

Of Nefario I got the impression that he would do so (I could be wrong of course).

Just as Note: You have reached a compromise if both partys are unsatisfied with the solution.

Goat:

GLBSE is a startup and always when you start something new some mistakes are made.

I take it you did even make a huge Profit (in %) trading these shares so on the contrary to the people who bought this shares from you, no financial damage was done to you.

I don't here the people who where damaged by this scam complaining.

Couldn't you just call this a mistake and leave it be?

Must you really fight this to the bitter end? This whole thing has already escalated to much.

Just think for a moment of the possible outcomes if you go through with this to the bitter end:

• Nefario gives in --> You can keep you shares, but trading gets frozen and a warning added that this are not real GLBSE shares (so no naive noob buys them
• Nefario "wins" --> You loose you shares and get nothing
• You "win" --> Nefario gets a Scammer tag, you still get nothing, but you destroyed the most promising BTC Stock exchange

(I now I'm overdrawing a little)

Or you just give in and walk out of this with a profit, whats the harm in that?

Well, if you are serious with your offer. there is a conflict between Goat and Nefario that is currently escalating.

See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112071.0 and https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=112551.0

I think that's the current conflict with the most public attention here. A good opportunity for you to do some marketing. Maybe offer your service this one time for free and show public that you are truly able to deescalate such conflicts.

Well, no.

Did you?

Ziggy und Smart sollten den einen Scammer Tag erhalten, sobalt klar ist, dass das Guthaben ihrer Anleger (Schuldner) nicht zurück gezahlt wir und nicht vorher.

Ich weiß, dass kaum einer noch bezweifelt, dass das Ganze ein Ponzi oder evtl.. sogar nur ein Pirate Passthrough war.

Aber: Im Zweifel für den Angeklagten.

Ziggy ist solange unschuldig bis seine Schuld bewiesen ist.

Das für die Funds.

Der Verkauf der Seite ohne eindeutige Information der Anleger ist eine Andere Sache.

Sowohl der Verkauf jetzt an "Victor", als auch der erste Verkauf von Smart an Ziggy. Zumindest ich habe davon bis vor ein paar Tagen nämlich auch nichts gewusst.

D.H. für mich ist Smart immer noch ebenso beteiligt wie Ziggy und ich denke auch, dass ein Anwalt das ähnlich sehen wird.

Für den Verkauf ohne Vorab Info kann man beide als Scammer bezeichnen. Ich würde hier jedoch ein Auge zudrücken, sofern der Rest korrekt abläuft.

I think it would help your start if you would only charge payment if both partys came to an agreement for the first couple of cases (lets say first 5?), to make yourself and your service a name.

Also, many disputes go on over what something is worth in BTC. In that case you would have a conflict of interest yourself, as you get paid more if you work both partys towards the higher sum. How would you handle that?

LOL.

If this continues with that speed 50% of the forum members will be labelled scammers within the next 3 Month.

Doesn't matter anymore. If Nefario just does nothing, everthing will be fine: