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36561  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Marital Rape a Crime? on: May 07, 2015, 12:23:40 AM
It's not rape if you yell "Surprise!" first.

Remember kids its not sexual harassment if you are not aroused.

Well, the victim certainly isn't aroused in the same way as the rapist. Otherwise it wouldn't be rape.

Smiley

Oh I know that it just reminded me of a funny argument I saw.

I figured, but was simply playing along.    Cheesy
36562  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: May 07, 2015, 12:06:54 AM
only 12% vote for da joos? it will be more when more people see this.

it was all the joos fault to get more oil they needed to start a war.

I was not the jews, It was the Terrorists.

Come on guys it was clearly the Muslims they wanted to be attacked so they could become the new victims.

But remember. Obama wasn't in office yet. So it was also people other than Muslims, inside government, that set things up so that Muslims could get away with it.

Smiley
36563  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Cops Gone Wild! Eye on the Police State. on: May 07, 2015, 12:04:13 AM
Most of the time police work for the city. This means that the city ordains a police force, and then lets certain "professionals" set it up. Usually these professionals aren't the city council members that voted the police force in. Once it gets going, the city council has little ability to do anything with the police force other than completely disband it. It is difficult for them to discipline cops.

The point? We need to set up a people's police force, one that is totally trained and outfitted as the city police force, one that doesn't do anything except to arrest bad cops, and beat the crap out of them if necessary.

Smiley
36564  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 06, 2015, 11:57:31 PM
we are talking about a cult that doesn't consider the consequences of its agenda as particularly important.

True.

Islam says love towards Islamites, but opposition towards those who are not Islamites. The question is, if Islam were the only religion and the only government in the world, would there be peace then? The answer is in the fact that there is fighting among the different Islamite sects right now.

Smiley
36565  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 06, 2015, 11:54:27 PM
In the Koran, it is acceptable to kill non-muslims and those that leave the islam faith. There is no questioning that, and that's what terrorists use to justify their actions, because it is justifyable according to the Koran's texts.

Islam, Christianity, Judasim, are religions of War, hate, murder, death. They are the farthest things from being religions of peace.

Why do you think that about Christianity? In the words of the New Testament, on which Christianity is based, there is no directive to hate or do violence against anyone. There almost isn't anything written that could be interpreted that way. That's why terrorists don't use Christianity as the reason that they do their terrorism.

The Crusades of the past that did violence, either did it out of self-defense with the idea that a strong offense is the best defense, or they did it out of ignorance, directed by the politicians of the day.

Christian people make mistakes like anyone else, but the Christian religion is totally against hate and violence. Read the New Testament.

Smiley

The Old Testament is identical in violence and hatred to the Koran and Torah. All that the New Testament does is contradict the Old Testament, proving the invadility(Falseness) of the bible. After all, christ claims to be one with god the father, but his teachings go directly against the teachings of god the father, so one of them is wrong(A true god cannot make mistakes), and that means neither of them are god.

Also, during the crusades, christian missionaries and knights murdered countless people for trivial reasons to "reclaim the holy land", not anything remotely similar to self-defense.

You talk about one being wrong. The wrong one is you.

As I said, "Christian people make mistakes like anyone else, but the Christian religion is totally against hate and violence. Read the New Testament."

Smiley
36566  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: May 06, 2015, 09:51:37 PM
People hate Islam as in all most all terrorists attacks Islamic Countries were involved and people have start believing that Islam is only responsible for terrorism in the world. So nobody will love those people who believes in killing innocent people.

Time for the Islamic peoples of the world to get violent with their own numbers who are terrorists, and put them down, just so that Islam can be the peaceful religion that it is striving to be.

Smiley
36567  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There Is Growing Evidence that Our Universe Is a Giant Hologram on: May 06, 2015, 09:04:43 PM
There is growing evidence that OP sucks at reason and science.

vs. the guy (BADecker) that is claiming a 600 year old man took 17,000,000 animals onto a giant ship for 400 days with no food or water?  Yep - the bible says so, so it must be true...

You think the OP is the nut job?   Roll Eyes

You are wrong. It was more. The other place in the Bible says "Take with you seven of every kind of clean animal, a male and its mate, and two of every kind of unclean animal, a male and its mate..."

When it says "seven" and "two" it means "seven pair" and "two pair."

Smiley
36568  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There Is Growing Evidence that Our Universe Is a Giant Hologram on: May 06, 2015, 08:59:36 PM
There is growing evidence that OP sucks at reason and science.

Come on. Give him a break. His stuff stimulates the imagination and ideas in all of us. If we didn't have such stimulation, we'd still be living in the stone age.

Smiley
36569  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There Is Growing Evidence that Our Universe Is a Giant Hologram on: May 06, 2015, 08:57:02 PM


“If you asked anyone twenty years ago how many dimensions our world has, most of us would answer 'three spatial dimensions plus time,'" he said. "The holographic principle would mean that this is actually a matter of perspective.”



Not so! It has been known for many decades that time is the dimension that allows objects in space to hold different positions. Of course, this might mean that all objects in space hold every position in space, and it is only "time" that makes them act like they only hold certain positions at certain "times."

Smiley


I had a vision (yes, a vision) one time that there is only one instance of each of the smallest element in the universe. What we perceive as time and space is each particle stretching "infinitely" like a spaghetto... When a bunch get gobbled up together that creates packets we define as atoms. There is no such thing as "emptiness" in space... Only places where spaghetti are stretching solo, not around other spaghetti near by. It would be like looking at a little crystal inside a kaleidoscope. Multiple instances of the same structure but with an infinite amount of shapes, based on the perspective of the observer, thus creating reality, as far as the perspective of the observer. What we would observe as a particle entanglement is simply plucking the same string and see it reacting just like ...






And. No. For that vision. I don't do drugs...

 Cool

 


Remember what Hawking called the Higgs Boson? The god particle.

Bible says God is One. What if there is really only 1 particle in the whole universe, and it simply zooms throughout the whole universe, through all the dimensions (actually making them as it zooms), very rapidly, taking on different qualities depending on what it "wants" to accomplish at a particular "junction."

Smiley


If that one particle defines everything then it would not matter how fast or how slow that particle zooms around to create every shapes and states in the universe, as even what we observe and feel as space and time would be defined by that particle.

 Cool



I don't disagree with you. Yet, how in the world could we experience anything except what "It" wanted us to experience. This might mean that nothing that we experience makes any sense at all except in the ways that they "seems" to make sense... as dictated by the god particle.

Smiley
36570  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Marital Rape a Crime? on: May 06, 2015, 08:24:59 PM

(Ex: If you need to ask permission for abortion from the government that means that your body is the property of the government)


The United States and the other common law countries have been very obliging in this. The U.S. created the 14th Amendment so that people who want to be owned by government can let it happen. At the same time, people can be people, not owned by anyone except God. But in such cases, the government still maintains within itself the ownership of the position of each person, just for the event that the person might want to come back into slavery. Indeed, there might be some times when a human might find it advantageous to partially partaken of the position of his government owned person.

Smiley
36571  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There Is Growing Evidence that Our Universe Is a Giant Hologram on: May 06, 2015, 08:18:33 PM


“If you asked anyone twenty years ago how many dimensions our world has, most of us would answer 'three spatial dimensions plus time,'" he said. "The holographic principle would mean that this is actually a matter of perspective.”



Not so! It has been known for many decades that time is the dimension that allows objects in space to hold different positions. Of course, this might mean that all objects in space hold every position in space, and it is only "time" that makes them act like they only hold certain positions at certain "times."

Smiley


I had a vision (yes, a vision) one time that there is only one instance of each of the smallest element in the universe. What we perceive as time and space is each particle stretching "infinitely" like a spaghetto... When a bunch get gobbled up together that creates packets we define as atoms. There is no such thing as "emptiness" in space... Only places where spaghetti are stretching solo, not around other spaghetti near by. It would be like looking at a little crystal inside a kaleidoscope. Multiple instances of the same structure but with an infinite amount of shapes, based on the perspective of the observer, thus creating reality, as far as the perspective of the observer. What we would observe as a particle entanglement is simply plucking the same string and see it reacting just like ...






And. No. For that vision. I don't do drugs...

 Cool

 


Remember what Hawking called the Higgs Boson? The god particle.

Bible says God is One. What if there is really only 1 particle in the whole universe, and it simply zooms throughout the whole universe, through all the dimensions (actually making them as it zooms), very rapidly, taking on different qualities depending on what it "wants" to accomplish at a particular "junction."

Smiley

EDIT: This might explain why the Higgs Boson is so elusive. It doesn't take on the Higgs Boson form except when it wants, and at the proper "junction."
36572  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Is Marital Rape a Crime? on: May 06, 2015, 06:29:13 PM
It's not rape if you yell "Surprise!" first.

Remember kids its not sexual harassment if you are not aroused.

Well, the victim certainly isn't aroused in the same way as the rapist. Otherwise it wouldn't be rape.

Smiley
36573  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There Is Growing Evidence that Our Universe Is a Giant Hologram on: May 06, 2015, 06:27:24 PM


“If you asked anyone twenty years ago how many dimensions our world has, most of us would answer 'three spatial dimensions plus time,'" he said. "The holographic principle would mean that this is actually a matter of perspective.”



Not so! It has been known for many decades that time is the dimension that allows objects in space to hold different positions. Of course, this might mean that all objects in space hold every position in space, and it is only "time" that makes them act like they only hold certain positions at certain "times."

Smiley
36574  Other / Politics & Society / Re: There Is Growing Evidence that Our Universe Is a Giant Hologram on: May 06, 2015, 06:22:47 PM
So, where are and what are the hologram projectors that project this hologram universe of ours?

Smiley
36575  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do islam hates people? on: May 06, 2015, 06:01:18 PM
In the Koran, it is acceptable to kill non-muslims and those that leave the islam faith. There is no questioning that, and that's what terrorists use to justify their actions, because it is justifyable according to the Koran's texts.

Islam, Christianity, Judasim, are religions of War, hate, murder, death. They are the farthest things from being religions of peace.

Why do you think that about Christianity? In the words of the New Testament, on which Christianity is based, there is no directive to hate or do violence against anyone. There almost isn't anything written that could be interpreted that way. That's why terrorists don't use Christianity as the reason that they do their terrorism.

The Crusades of the past that did violence, either did it out of self-defense with the idea that a strong offense is the best defense, or they did it out of ignorance, directed by the politicians of the day.

Christian people make mistakes like anyone else, but the Christian religion is totally against hate and violence. Read the New Testament.

Smiley
36576  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: May 06, 2015, 05:53:35 PM
Different people have different beliefs and different perceptions. But most of them think that it was US Government responsible for the  attacks of 911 with the support of Ossoma Bin Laden and his terrorist group or vice a versa can't get a judgement on it.

No "most people" do not think this.  About 15% do, and they are the less educated.

Please do not use this forum as a place to spread mis- or dis- information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories



Hard to believe less then 50% believe al-Qaeda did it.

Such is the result of active dis-information campaigns.  Part of which is on this forum right now.  Cheers!

When you look at all the facts, and assemble all the points, isn't it difficult to see which campaign is the dis-information campaign?

Smiley

If you notice, he didn't specify WHO is engaged in a disinformation campaign, just that one was taking place Wink


Different people have different beliefs and different perceptions. But most of them think that it was US Government responsible for the  attacks of 911 with the support of Ossoma Bin Laden and his terrorist group or vice a versa can't get a judgement on it.

No "most people" do not think this.  About 15% do, and they are the less educated.

Please do not use this forum as a place to spread mis- or dis- information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories



Wikipedia. Thats cute. You are mistaken. Just because you can dig up a single bias poll from 2008 does not magically mean most people agree with you......

The article lists a great many surveys that have been done, including the Zogby poll you mentioned.  Anyway, what is your point?  Most people do not think the US Government was responsible, in any of the polls.  IIRC.

Your points I deleted are not inconsistent with my rebuttal of umaOuma, are they?

The polls? The surveys? The fact that you, one with way better than average understanding, would mention them, shows that you are not sincere in much of anything you say, except that it benefits you or your cronies in some way.

Polls and surveys are not only designed to elicit the answers that the pollsters want to hear, but they exist to take the elicited answers and use them to direct the people into thinking the things that politicians want them to think.

Do the polls give a true picture regarding what people think? Some, perhaps. But others create pure falsehood. And this is reasonably common knowledge.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122236095083475619

Smiley
I don't believe in polls or polling with rare exceptions, but was simply responding to a post about polls by providing a link to a great many that had been done.

Earlier there was a similar propaganda statement, something like "Most people know the Zionists did 911."

Total bullshit. 

All right. My mistake... about your sincerity, that is.  Smiley
36577  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do people hate islam? on: May 06, 2015, 05:49:30 PM
I Don't hate Islam. I dislike all religions including Islam. My dislike may be slightly greater for Christianity, but that's probably because it's the religion I know the best. I do have a pretty good hate on for Islamic extremists such as the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

This is almost amazing. Why would anyone dislike Christianity? Here is what Christianity does for the world.

Everybody, EVERYBODY, makes mistakes and does things wrong. Everybody sins. Christianity might be the only religion that forces onto EVERYBODY, forgiveness for sins in this life. In addition, Christianity gives to its people everlasting life in joy with God.

Why would anybody dislike that!? Without Christianity there would be no life alive on earth now, because everybody sins, and God can't stand sin. And without Christianity there would be no salvation from death.

Even the people of other religions should love Christianity, because it is the reason that they have their freedom in all the ways that they have it.

Smiley
36578  Other / Politics & Society / Re: PayPal Wants to Make Your Body a Password on: May 06, 2015, 05:40:21 PM
If Paypal happened to be the only way, they might not lose customers doing something like this.

Smiley
36579  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Poll - Where are the most lies told? on: May 06, 2015, 03:06:32 PM





You forgot one more choice:

Within polls with an agenda...


 Cool

This is it.   Smiley   http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122236095083475619
36580  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: May 06, 2015, 03:02:39 PM
Different people have different beliefs and different perceptions. But most of them think that it was US Government responsible for the  attacks of 911 with the support of Ossoma Bin Laden and his terrorist group or vice a versa can't get a judgement on it.

No "most people" do not think this.  About 15% do, and they are the less educated.

Please do not use this forum as a place to spread mis- or dis- information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories



Hard to believe less then 50% believe al-Qaeda did it.

Such is the result of active dis-information campaigns.  Part of which is on this forum right now.  Cheers!

When you look at all the facts, and assemble all the points, isn't it difficult to see which campaign is the dis-information campaign?

Smiley

If you notice, he didn't specify WHO is engaged in a disinformation campaign, just that one was taking place Wink


Different people have different beliefs and different perceptions. But most of them think that it was US Government responsible for the  attacks of 911 with the support of Ossoma Bin Laden and his terrorist group or vice a versa can't get a judgement on it.

No "most people" do not think this.  About 15% do, and they are the less educated.

Please do not use this forum as a place to spread mis- or dis- information.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polls_about_9/11_conspiracy_theories



Wikipedia. Thats cute. You are mistaken. Just because you can dig up a single bias poll from 2008 does not magically mean most people agree with you......

The article lists a great many surveys that have been done, including the Zogby poll you mentioned.  Anyway, what is your point?  Most people do not think the US Government was responsible, in any of the polls.  IIRC.

Your points I deleted are not inconsistent with my rebuttal of umaOuma, are they?

The polls? The surveys? The fact that you, one with way better than average understanding, would mention them, shows that you are not sincere in much of anything you say, except that it benefits you or your cronies in some way.

Polls and surveys are not only designed to elicit the answers that the pollsters want to hear, but they exist to take the elicited answers and use them to direct the people into thinking the things that politicians want them to think.

Do the polls give a true picture regarding what people think? Some, perhaps. But others create pure falsehood. And this is reasonably common knowledge.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB122236095083475619

Smiley
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