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3661  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 20, 2018, 06:46:25 AM
I'm sure TheQuinn will appreciate you thinking I am him.  That'll go over well.  hahaha

There is only one 'n' in my name.

It is a bit funny but I can see how easy it would be to believe that the person promoting a dice script was doing it on behalf of the gambling site in order to increase their revenue.
3662  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 20, 2018, 06:40:42 AM
Quite true.  You have to wager over 0.01btc every day to make it increase at all.  Otherwise it just goes backwards instead.  Every hour, it decreases the percent towards a bonus and when it reaches 0%,  it takes away any bonus you have earned and starts decreasing from 99% again.  This repeats until you've been pushed all the way back to the smallest free roll reward amount.  So to keep it moving forward AND keep it at a respectable level, you have to constantly be betting with multiply game.  A bot such as mine automates that your losses for you.

Factually incorrect as always. You don't have to wager 0.01, it's a ratio of how much you win for free against what you wager.
3663  Other / Archival / Re: Abuse of power by suchmoon, who is responsible for him to be on DT? on: May 20, 2018, 06:35:34 AM
you see me as untrustworthy?

Yes.
3664  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 19, 2018, 03:02:05 PM
The more stake i give it,  the more rewards points it earns,  the higher the free roll reward goes.

Yeah, that's part of why we have a higher house edge. Referral income is 0.25% and RP cost another 0.25% then bonus BTc.... etc. all come out of that house edge. That's what actually makes us competitive with lower house edge sites.

None of that changes the fact that you haven't invented a way to walk on water. Some customers get lucky and win, others don't. Your betting script is designed to maximise the referral income you get, not you referrals chances of winning.

I know you don't believe this but casinos like to see customers win, so congratulations on your lucky streak. All casinos want is customers to play and give them a chance to make a profit.
3665  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 19, 2018, 02:31:23 PM
Incorrect,

I just explained why it is you, yet again, that is incorrect in the other thread. Try and keep the conversation in place.
3666  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 19, 2018, 02:29:41 PM
Actually you have it backwards because you continually forget that I am using time to my benefit.

LOL. Time just makes something take longer. It doesn't change the odds.


I use a LOW stake for a HIGH reward, not the other way around

The stake is the total risk not the amount of each bet.

Someone that deposits 1 BTC and tries to win 0.001 BTC has a better chance than someone that deposits 0.001 and tries to win 1.0

Your system tries to win a little based on a large amount risked.

You're not fooling anyone here but please do bring more customers to freebitco.in
3667  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 19, 2018, 01:53:10 PM
Wait a minute,  are you trying to say that freebitco doesnt give dividends based on the current account balance?  

That called interest. Dividends are a share of profit from owning equities.


I dont know any gambler who bets their entire balance on 1 bet.  Thats no fun anyway.

I wasn't suggesting that.

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The more bets you make, the closer to statistical perfection you'll get. This is a bots' downfall. Instead of the player making few but large bets, a bot makes many many smaller bets, so for the same wagered amount, a bot is likely to be much closer to the expected value.

I used this factual quote to demonstrate the point that making more small bets will converge the result towards the expected value more than using fewer larger bets.

I gain nothing from people losing.

Correct, you gain from rollover. The longer it takes them to lose the more commission you get. That's why your system uses a high stake and low profit target with many small bets. That is to maximise your return despite it diminishing their chances of winning.
3668  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 19, 2018, 01:06:58 PM
Hmm yes, there is no reason to stop his bot to be honest, if he is not breaking any other rule, though I think if the bot is also automatically collecting the faucet then it must be at least unfair to other honest people. The site like most faucets run on advertising so bots are not giving him any advertising results.

The edge is so high on this site that he must eventually lose. Just let that happen and his game will end.

If he is claiming the faucet we have detection systems and if they pick that up then the accounts will get blocked from the faucet.

The higher house edge is counteracted by all the bonuses. In the end, it will end the same with any house edge. Using a script long enough will converge the result towards the expected value.

Anyone can use Seuntjies DiceBot and use the programmer mode to create their own script. All the sites available there paid Seuntjie to add them.
https://bot.seuntjie.com/

All this guy is doing is using a system with a high stake and low profit target which is designed to try and take a long time to lose and thus fool people into thinking it works.
3669  Other / Meta / Re: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again on: May 19, 2018, 10:48:45 AM
....
 I think the only solution to that is to remove signatures completely for below Member rank.

I tend to agree with this as time goes by... but it will encourage the account sell, because anyone who wants to earn bounty, needs to buy member account, because it's easier and quicker and even cheaper than gathering the merits to rank up...

But I think I've found the holy grail Smiley I know it's hard to code it, but maybe it worths the time...

Let's restrict the users enrolled into bounty campaigns and altcoin signature campaigns to only spam post in the altcoin thread/boards... The bitcoin section would be free from bounty spam...
Anyway, bounties and altcoin signature campagins have nothing to do with bitcoin and those who wants to advertise their altcoins need people interested in shitaltcoins instead of bitcoin...
Those, who are enrolled in bitcoin sig campaigns won't have any restriction...
I know that this is not democratic, but I started not to care about democracy in connection with spamming bots recently...

Or even take that one step further and split the forum in two. Make a new separate altcoin forum....
3670  Other / Meta / Re: Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again on: May 19, 2018, 09:50:07 AM
Who cares about the bounties section?
Keep them all right there where they belong.. It's just people claiming free dust and yeah dirty tricks like bumping perpetrated by the companies themselves..
The bounties section isn't designed to be good reading and good conversation no more than a telephone book is.. 

The problem is sig spam in places like bitcoin discussion where they spam their ico sigs all over the place in THOSE megathreads for postcount and all over all threads.. Even the BTC sig campaigns can get harry at times..

The sig spam leaks from the altcoins section across the entire forum, stop that first and then work on the dirty dealers in the altcoins section..

You'd think that the people from the few legit altcoins would get pissed at all the crapcoins cheating their way to the top and want to do something to moderate it themselves..

Compared to the sig spam thread bumping in the bounties board is just not that big of a factor..

I agree with you here. It's no big deal to put the altcoins bounties board on ignore, but the pollution spilling out to the rest of the forum is very annoying. I assume that when theymos changed Jr. Members signatures to not include links a few days before introducing Merit it was with the intention of locking them out of signature campaigns. That, unfortunately, hasn't worked as the print your own token campaigns have just carried on with text signatures. That just means they need more Jr. Member alt accounts to spam with to make the same money that one higher ranked account would get. I think the only solution to that is to remove signatures completely for below Member rank.
3671  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 19, 2018, 08:59:05 AM
TheQuin


where do you write and what, I wrote the problem, and through the inverse form of communication wrote more than once and the answer was not

I answered here:

That means you have been banned from the faucet for suspected abuse. If you believe this is in error please PM me the details and we will look into it.

You haven't PM'd me anything.
3672  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 19, 2018, 08:16:46 AM
Is there not a way to stop this? He says he is online 24/7, so his bot must be running 24/7 to be profitable. How about setting a time restriction on connections that are online for periods longer than 2 hours for instance? There must be effective counter measure for bots like this.  Huh

Just implement a rule for connections that are running 2 hours or longer will be "disconnected" and "disabled" for a period of time. He will then have to switch to other accounts and it might even disrupt his process.  Huh

If he wants to f#$% you around, then just do the same to him.  Wink

I really don't want to stop it. It's just a script that will lose eventually. All he's doing is playing very low odds so it'll have a chance to go on a very long winning streak before the inevitable bust. Equally someone else could start off and get the bust immediately and lose their whole deposit. Overall for freebitco.in it is a good thing if he brings in referrals that deposit and play because that increases our turnover and then the house edge gives us a statistically probable profit.

If someone is willing to risk 0.05000000 to win 0.00000547 then they stand a good chance of winning but it will be very painful when they lose.

All I'm trying to do here is to point that out to people that they shouldn't fall for his snake oil.
3673  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Forum moderation policy on: May 19, 2018, 08:04:11 AM
Hello .. Good evening. I'm new to the forum, is there any topic within the forum where I can promote new mining platforms? and my referral links? I'm asking because I do not want to take ban. hugs.

The first thing you need to do is stop using bold and colour in your posts like that or most people here will simply put you on their ignore list.

Which board your posts belongs in depends on exactly it is you are trying to promote. The Bitcoin and Altcoin sections are separate so it needs to go in the correct one. What do you mean by 'platform'? Is it hardware or a service? If it is cloud mining then forget about promoting it all together.

Your signature space is the only place you can put referral links. If you put them in your posts then your posts will get deleted.
3674  Other / Meta / Re: Mod, please check new plagiarism: Reporting copy/pasting, please permban on: May 19, 2018, 07:01:21 AM
Sry if is already posted, but this is a long 3d, how can I help find those users?

When you see a post that looks out of place, written in very good English like a news report or for whatever reason if you think it likely came from somewhere else just do a Google search for a section of the text using "" to make it a precise match.
3675  Other / Archival / Re: Abuse of power by suchmoon, who is responsible for him to be on DT? on: May 19, 2018, 06:38:29 AM
And you have proven to be a poor individual trying to close your eyes to harassment and abuse to keep your weekly paycheck of signature campaign.

There is nothing to close my eyes to. You deserve that tag as a result of your actions. That isn't harassment or abuse and is totally unrelated to whether or not I choose to rent out my signature space.
3676  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 19, 2018, 06:29:41 AM
~snip huge wall of text I couldn't be bothered to read.

Here's what I just posted in the other thread.

What I'm accusing you of is lying about what your bot can do. Shit like this:

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5. I always maintain a balance of at least 0.05BTC so that I get the whole whopping 0.00000547 BTC daily dividend.

Equating gambling to a dividend paying investment. You make out that your bot is somehow giving people an advantage when it isn't. Someone could simply bet 0.000547 at 1.01x once a day and have a 94.06% chance. There is nothing your bot is doing to enhance that. By making more bets you are actually reducing their chances:

https://steemit.com/gambling/@seuntjie/why-botting-doesn-t-work-at-casinos
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The more bets you make, the closer to statistical perfection you'll get. This is a bots' downfall. Instead of the player making few but large bets, a bot makes many many smaller bets, so for the same wagered amount, a bot is likely to be much closer to the expected value.

You just want them to reduce their chances so you get higher referral income. That's why I'm calling you out and not getting distracted with all your irrelevant arguments.
3677  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 19, 2018, 06:03:08 AM
I missed this bit.

And if it just happens to lose,  well then I've already got 0.04 from my previous win to put back in and try it again.

You actually answered a question.

From your post,  I'd actually say that you're suggesting that freebitco is NOT the most well known/legit dice site around.  Is that what you are saying?  I dont get it.

No, I was saying you were full of shit and would say anything to get suckers using your dice script. I was pointing out the contradiction in you saying that and then going on to say a load of bullshit about provably fair.

BTW,  lets be clear here.  No one is losing ANYTHING with my bot.  If they lose anything,  its that they are losing it to freebitco due to freebitco's super high house edge,  not because of my bot.

The edge pays for all the extras that you get... the RP that you cash in... the referral income... etc. As you again conveniently ignored:

You just set off the bullshit detector again. If you really had invented a way to beat the house edge then it would be far more profitable to play at a site with a lower house edge. What you have actually done is found a way to exploit naive referrals into believing your shit. You don't use it on any other site because you can exploit enough fools as it is.

What I'm accusing you of is lying about what your bot can do. Shit like this:

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5. I always maintain a balance of at least 0.05BTC so that I get the whole whopping 0.00000547 BTC daily dividend.

Equating gambling to a dividend paying investment. You make out that your bot is somehow giving people an advantage when it isn't. Someone could simply bet 0.000547 at 1.01x once a day and have a 94.06% chance. There is nothing your bot is doing to enhance that. By making more bets you are actually reducing their chances:

https://steemit.com/gambling/@seuntjie/why-botting-doesn-t-work-at-casinos
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The more bets you make, the closer to statistical perfection you'll get. This is a bots' downfall. Instead of the player making few but large bets, a bot makes many many smaller bets, so for the same wagered amount, a bot is likely to be much closer to the expected value.

You just want them to reduce their chances so you get higher referral income. That's why I'm calling you out and not getting distracted with all your irrelevant arguments.


3678  Economy / Services / Re: ★☆★ 777Coin Signature Campaign ★☆★ (Member-Hero Accepted) on: May 18, 2018, 08:04:28 PM
I'm wearing the sign from 3 weeks and I still don't know if I'll get paid or not  Cry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6M8szlSa-8o
3679  Economy / Gambling / Re: Freebitco gamblin' stream currently live :) on: May 18, 2018, 07:52:05 PM
I'm smarter than that.  Also,  scamming sites are more likely to cheat,  which is another reason I purposely avoid sketchy casinos.  Freebitco is probably the most well known/legit operation as far as casinos go which makes it the perfect target for my purposes.

LMFAO at how much of a liar you are.

From your website:

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7. Completely random generation of Cliend Seed. This makes it impossible for the server to prove a fake roll. IT DOES NOT STOP THE SERVER FROM CREATING FAKE ROLLS! I dont care who says what, the server can roll whatever the heck it wants, but proving it is completely separate. Even though you can prove the server gave you a fake roll result, you CANNOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT.

You are a just liar that will say anything to try and dupe people into losing their money on you're pony dice script.
3680  Economy / Gambling / Re: FreeBitco.in - Win free Bitcoins every hour! on: May 18, 2018, 07:19:21 PM
trusted by me, thanks for the good work on your site, is it maybe possible to crate a new profile at yours? (and transfer balance?)

Why would you want to do that? You can withdraw and deposit to the new account.

Hello all, tell me on May 12 made a scrolling roll, went in the morning to make a scroll and highlights constantly Sorry, this IP address has been blocked. If you are using a proxy, VPN or anonymization service, please turn it off before claiming free bitcoins, VPN never used and there are no extensions on browsers, tried 5 different browsers and always the same

That means you have been banned from the faucet for suspected abuse. If you believe this is in error please PM me the details and we will look into it.
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