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Same reason I'm on a poetry forum or a philosophical forum, to learn. If you're willing to take the time to find the right threads, you can enrich your knowledge about cyrptosystems, investing, the right to privacy and how to defend it, and sometimes even about life and what gives it meaning. The idea that you can create an antifragile system that will work as intended with equality for all those that are involved is endlessly fascinating and seems the true legacy of the cypherpunk movement.
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Ethics, Moral, Fairness, Honesty? Why should anyone care about that stuff when there is profit! All is good, when profit is made. Right?
A whore won't accept fairness or ethics in exchange for a blowjob, so what good are they? For an egoistical individual they may not seem important, for people who care about the world they are fundamental. A very good point. I'd add that even a sociopath or extremely egotistical person who does not care personally for ethics, morals, fairness, or principals would be foolish to ignore any of these influences when analyzing a situation (investing or otherwise) as they would be ignoring a prime motivator for most people and their myopic analysis would result in a faulty model. In simpler terms, projecting your selfish motives onto all those involved leaves you with a skewed vision of reality. In even simpler terms, different strokes for different folks. And in really simple terms, greed is good until it isn't. |
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So quite easy to predict the Monero price based on what a few whales are doing and all via Poloniex? That explains why on the price chart there are never any big movements, the whale's buy walls moving up and down are too big for lots of small users. And it suggests XMR distribution is a few mega-whales and lots of small holders, but I haven't seen any stats on what XMR distribution actually looks like?
I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing, but if the part about being "quite easy to predict" where true then you should making a lot of money trading Monero, right? I don't really see a good case that Monero is more influenced by whales than any other coin. They all have their whales. Because I don't know what Warz or whoever is going to decide next. Maybe tomorrow they wake up and want a different coin.. Every time I traded I bought / sold at the worse possible time.. Even with Warz guarantee I would get it wrong...not a trader. I just accumulate what I think will be around in the long term based on what the devs say their long term goals are and whether I believe they will achieve it or not from researching it.My guess is this will turn out as well as your trading, dashboy. Honestly, I would never have guessed you felt like that about Dash Generalize. If I believed the Monero FUD that he's an 'instaminer' who will dump in week 3, but obviously he's still here in week 70 coding new stuff all day like instant transactions and he grew it to be the leading alt so i would have to be pretty new to think that that guy was an insta-dumper. Monero markets would worry me a lot more about people dumping and running off than the dash team...just sayin...poloniex situation isn't healthy...needs fixing Blocka when this sham comes falling around you, just remember you were warned. I'm not even going to laugh or pull a "I told you so." That thing has scam written all over it, and in hindsight, you'll get what some from Monero, and others, have been saying. You've been told--it's the people who haven't or don't realize how dash got its start that I'm going to make sure see it for what it is. 500k in an hour will never be a "instamine," it will always be an instamine not quotation marks required. Regardless of his affiliations, I concur with him that the Darkcoin team likely never is going to dump. Why'd they ever do that? Slowly seeping is another thing entirely. Other big holders might though, and some have already done so recently. He's inserting the scenario that he's reacting to, keep me out of it. I've listed many ways in which the Evan circus comes undone, but not ever on this thread. |
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So quite easy to predict the Monero price based on what a few whales are doing and all via Poloniex? That explains why on the price chart there are never any big movements, the whale's buy walls moving up and down are too big for lots of small users. And it suggests XMR distribution is a few mega-whales and lots of small holders, but I haven't seen any stats on what XMR distribution actually looks like?
I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing, but if the part about being "quite easy to predict" where true then you should making a lot of money trading Monero, right? I don't really see a good case that Monero is more influenced by whales than any other coin. They all have their whales. Because I don't know what Warz or whoever is going to decide next. Maybe tomorrow they wake up and want a different coin.. Every time I traded I bought / sold at the worse possible time.. Even with Warz guarantee I would get it wrong...not a trader. I just accumulate what I think will be around in the long term based on what the devs say their long term goals are and whether I believe they will achieve it or not from researching it.My guess is this will turn out as well as your trading, dashboy. Honestly, I would never have guessed you felt like that about Dash Generalize. If I believed the Monero FUD that he's an 'instaminer' who will dump in week 3, but obviously he's still here in week 70 coding new stuff all day like instant transactions and he grew it to be the leading alt so i would have to be pretty new to think that that guy was an insta-dumper. Monero markets would worry me a lot more about people dumping and running off than the dash team...just sayin...poloniex situation isn't healthy...needs fixing Blocka when this sham comes falling around you, just remember you were warned. I'm not even going to laugh or pull a "I told you so." That thing has scam written all over it, and in hindsight, you'll get what some from Monero, and others, have been saying. You've been told--it's the people who haven't or don't realize how dash got its start that I'm going to make sure see it for what it is. 500k in an hour will never be a "instamine," it will always be an instamine no quotation marks required. |
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So quite easy to predict the Monero price based on what a few whales are doing and all via Poloniex? That explains why on the price chart there are never any big movements, the whale's buy walls moving up and down are too big for lots of small users. And it suggests XMR distribution is a few mega-whales and lots of small holders, but I haven't seen any stats on what XMR distribution actually looks like?
I'm not necessarily agreeing or disagreeing, but if the part about being "quite easy to predict" where true then you should making a lot of money trading Monero, right? I don't really see a good case that Monero is more influenced by whales than any other coin. They all have their whales. Because I don't know what Warz or whoever is going to decide next. Maybe tomorrow they wake up and want a different coin.. Every time I traded I bought / sold at the worse possible time.. Even with Warz guarantee I would get it wrong...not a trader. I just accumulate what I think will be around in the long term based on what the devs say their long term goals are and whether I believe they will achieve it or not from researching it.My guess is this will turn out as well as your trading, dashboy. |
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This is quite an interesting post. Thank you for pointing it out. Darkcoin/dash advocates often claim that there was a vote on whether to airdrop the instamined coins, and the community voted against it. Therefore, they say, the instamine was "approved" by the community and is okay. However, look carefully at what was being proposed, and what the community rejected: The first 24 hours of the coins existence keep causing us problems, an "airdrop" could be a solution to this. We could airdrop all holders (uniquely verified) with a equal portion of coin. This coin would come from a block in the future that paid 2 million+ coins to a specific address that I hold. He was not proposing to airdrop the instamined coins at all, not even his share of them. He was offering to leave the instamined coins alone, create another 2 million coins out of thin air, and airdrop those. As if creating more coins out of thin air was going to fix the original instamine scam?! Furthermore he was proposing to give these coins not to outsiders, but only to existing holders or people who bought coins (which they would need to do from existing holders!), which means much of this so-called airdrop "fix" would have gone straight into the instaminers pockets! Who would think to try to fix a scam with another scam? I have to say I may be coming around to the point of view that Evan is in fact brilliant.I'll be adding this to my thread as evidence that the dash community is still misleading people about the history of the instamine. He's brilliant at human engineering. Though I don't think he counted on the instamine sticking through the first rebranding of Xcoin to Dark and attempting a second rebrand to fix (erase) it is just doubling down on a failed policy. What's fascinating is that his followers are the same people who post on (bump) this thread but are too stupid to realize that each time they do it, it brings more attention to the instamine which is one of Dash's Achilles' heels--they probably won't even read this correctly (or at all) and keep posting angry responses. It's like they say, "Better to have smart enemies than stupid friends." I also wonder when Evan will exit with his profit? He has to know that a better/fairer masternode reward system will (if not already) be implemented in another coin and that the greed that drove people to his coin will drive them to another coin just as easily. I think the next poll should be: "Does Evan leave Dash with yacht money or space-yacht money?" wow, just one page and this has gone insane Generalize - you should try to sit back and relax, looks like you have your own problems to deal with without worrying about the wellbeing of Dash investors so much. I knew it would be you blocka--no impulse control whatsoever! I was like https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4dY52NiYvU |
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I predict 0.0015 will be the bottom
Hard to tell really. If 0.0015 will be the bottom the price will not drop significiantly... However, I am afraid this is just the beginning of the exodus from Monero to Bitcoin and along the way back to fiat money. I'm hopeful this is the exodus from fiat money to Bitcoin on the way to Monero. I'm so done with my dollars being converted to digital spy-notes. |
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This is quite an interesting post. Thank you for pointing it out. Darkcoin/dash advocates often claim that there was a vote on whether to airdrop the instamined coins, and the community voted against it. Therefore, they say, the instamine was "approved" by the community and is okay. However, look carefully at what was being proposed, and what the community rejected: The first 24 hours of the coins existence keep causing us problems, an "airdrop" could be a solution to this. We could airdrop all holders (uniquely verified) with a equal portion of coin. This coin would come from a block in the future that paid 2 million+ coins to a specific address that I hold. He was not proposing to airdrop the instamined coins at all, not even his share of them. He was offering to leave the instamined coins alone, create another 2 million coins out of thin air, and airdrop those. As if creating more coins out of thin air was going to fix the original instamine scam?! Furthermore he was proposing to give these coins not to outsiders, but only to existing holders or people who bought coins (which they would need to do from existing holders!), which means much of this so-called airdrop "fix" would have gone straight into the instaminers pockets! Who would think to try to fix a scam with another scam? I have to say I may be coming around to the point of view that Evan is in fact brilliant.I'll be adding this to my thread as evidence that the dash community is still misleading people about the history of the instamine. He's brilliant at human engineering. Though I don't think he counted on the instamine sticking through the first rebranding of Xcoin to Dark and attempting a second rebrand to fix (erase) it is just doubling down on a failed policy. What's fascinating is that his followers are the same people who post on (bump) this thread but are too stupid to realize that each time they do it, it brings more attention to the instamine which is one of Dash's Achilles' heels--they probably won't even read this correctly (or at all) and keep posting angry responses. It's like they say, "Better to have smart enemies than stupid friends." I also wonder when Evan will exit with his profit? He has to know that a better/fairer masternode reward system will (if not already) be implemented in another coin and that the greed that drove people to his coin will drive them to another coin just as easily. I think the next poll should be: "Does Evan leave Dash with yacht money or space-yacht money?" |
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What a charmer. You sound like a real scumbag. Dash supporter.. makes perfect sense  I'm a supporter of whoever will make me money. If the Monero team gets their act together in the future, I'll support Monero. It'll be hard to give up the masternode income from Dash, though. Join my Amway nodes and make me rich! |
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It will be a continual cycling of unrewarded slavenodes handing off their nodes to the masternodes with the most leverage of computational power. It's like you guys want to be slaves to Evan Is this you by any chance ? You're not even trying anymore. I feel for you; it's tough to win an argument when you're wrong. |
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Node systems that reward nodes for attacking other nodes are centralizing in nature.
w.t.f. are you talking about. The "reward" for attacking other nodes is a destroyed network and zero value for all. Exactly.  Or increased centralization with slavenodes working at minimum reward and masternodes working at the most gain with the least amount of risk of catastrophic failure--did you even read the graph? 1000 is optimum for gain, so now you have slavenodes passing the buck when they realize they're aren't getting rewarded. It will be a continual cycling of unrewarded slavenodes handing off their nodes to the masternodes with the most leverage of computational power. It's like you guys want to be slaves to Evan. And keep never minding that other systems like crave will pop-up with better/fairer reward systems--probably the same results, but that's not for me to worry about--when i see centralization in cryptosystems, I run. |
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I do go to school every day--life is a constant lessen
I'd have a few complaints for that school if I were your parents. (Apart from not being able to detect a glaring NSA honeypot at point blank range, that is). I know masternodes are a honeypot--that's why I'm on a thread about dash discouraging people from buying it. |
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Now it is time to focus on other things than buying the coin. No idea of catching the falling knife especially when the knife has not fallen that much.
Personally what I have done is to pay all the bills and stacking up fiat.
I am also doing other project so I don't have that much time for trolling here and of course, buying the coin.
No point in buying a coin that only has so high probability to go down at this point.
Better to buy when the price is low, and not necessarily even at low price if it is on the way to 0.
I always thought you were a troll trying to manipulate the price, but to be so blatant--subtlety is not your art. |
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I have extra 8+ bitcoins that is just sitting around, do you think it's a good idea to but some altcoins than wait for bitcoin to increase value?
What are the best altcoins to invest in?
Asking that here is like asking Jordan Belfort which penny stock he recommends. I'd do my own research or find someone who you trust with your wife. |
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LOL all you moanero trolls are pathetic and a joke to your coin and your community. You think people of this whole community can't see your FUD tactics? Why don't you go and do something positive for monero rather than poison it.
To all the normal, level headed monero followers/holders I have nothing but love for you guys.
When is an instamine FUD? When it's implied to cause real and concrete problems in the future. When in actuality the only "problem" it will every cause, is that some people won't like it. Too bad you can't force everyone to agree with that premise. I know it ruins your plans, but some people like honesty and expect it in their leadership. Sorry you didn't like my answer. Try to get some sleep regardless, it's a school day tomorrow after all. It's not that I don't like your answer, I just know it ignores a large swathe of the population who aren't cynical or greedy, or those that have a core code of beliefs that they follow in their lives such as ethics or principles. I also think it misses the big picture when you talk about mainstream acceptance. Many people don't like cheaters (see baseball scandals) and if they believe that gains are ill gotten they simply won't invest, and if they are in the media, may attack what they perceive as evil or ill gotten. Personally, I just think once you've tried to hide an instamine and failed, that no amount of rebranding is going to distance you enough from the fraud for you to reach mainstream success--so without a relaunch, a fair one, dash doesn't stand much of a chance of sniffing Bitcoin's market cap. Also, all things being equal, why would I invest in dash when a coin like crave has a masternode system that may have a better/fairer distribution system at around half the cost. Not an endorsement of crave, but if profit is your only motive why wouldn't I invest in a similar system that is less top-heavy and has more room to grow? That's the problem with things built short-sightedly, if they are successful, then others will borrow their structure, add some bells and whistles, and potentially steal their market share. I'll take the long view and stick to the best privacy solution with the best team with the best chances of creating the most useful network. And yes, I do go to school every day--life is a constant lessen and wisdom can be found everywhere if you're willing to work and keep your eyes open. |
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EDIT: Sorry, wrong place, I just saw all the names and thought I was on the Monero thread.  I like this: Monero - the coin with such lack of flaws and scam that the only possible trolling is concerned I like the new avatar. Very nice. |
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LOL all you moanero trolls are pathetic and a joke to your coin and your community. You think people of this whole community can't see your FUD tactics? Why don't you go and do something positive for monero rather than poison it.
To all the normal, level headed monero followers/holders I have nothing but love for you guys.
When is an instamine FUD? When it's implied to cause real and concrete problems in the future. When in actuality the only "problem" it will every cause, is that some people won't like it. Too bad you can't force everyone to agree with that premise. I know it ruins your plans, but some people like honesty and expect it in their leadership. |
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