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36681  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Most of Atheists knows that the God exist more than we do - Shocking truth! on: July 17, 2015, 12:08:09 PM
But it is so much fun thinking that you are in control, that you are the god of your religion. That's the attraction of atheism. Too bad their faulty thinking is destroying them. Some of these atheists are great people on the outside.

Smiley
36682  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: July 17, 2015, 12:05:17 PM
Religion is good until don't go to the extremism. It is a sure shelter for everyone who believe in difficulty he/she have or will have. If he/she feel that believe in God (in every kind of positive God) that will help them in every moment they will need help.

The obstacles to believe in God may results in extremism of another way and it is the same (problem) like the extremism in religion itself.

So be free in believing in which you want and let the other be free to believe in which they believe. The key is the positivity. Until there it will be positivity everything go fine. Otherwise .... problems.

Is there a religion that is correct, or nearly so? If there is a correct religion, a religion that acts completely according to reality, which one is it? Perhaps it is one of the religions of extremism. Perhaps it is the religion of non-extremism towards any religion. Perhaps it is the religion of doing and being what you feel. How do we know which one is the truth?

If people were right about the way that they feel all the time, there wouldn't be any car accidents or other accidents.

Smiley
36683  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: July 17, 2015, 11:58:27 AM
When you get a degree in neurosciences, then you can tell us how the brain works.
Psych major here, I found a place I can be genuinely helpful in this conversation! I know the science on this, and the good news it's easily understood in a short 7 minute video.

Lol! Some of these video things operate in all kinds of rejection. Others don't always operate in this kind of rejection.

One of the near truths in the video is the almost-self relationship that people have with God. And this is pronounced in the Christian. Jesus and Saint Paul both talk about the believer being one with God through the work of salvation that God did. And the fact salvation is open to the unbelievers, brings them right to the edge of being part with God, at least until they die in unbelief.

By not choosing God, one does reject Him. But it is more than that. By not choosing God, one pushes the strength of life from himself/herself.

The fact of the penetration of cause and effect through out the universe (at least according to all the scientific and other knowledge we have) shows us that we don't have any choice. Cause and effect dictates even our thinking. Don't misunderstand. We have freedom of choice, but we don't understand, at all, how we do. If we understand a little, we don't at all know how to say it.

So, the video is flawed and incomplete. Why? Because all the things that are ascribed to the theist by the video, also fit the the atheist. Thus the video shows that atheism not only is a religion, but the god of the atheism religion is mankind, himself.

Smiley
36684  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: July 17, 2015, 11:34:46 AM
The peace of an atheist may last for a day, but the peace of a saved theist will last forever.
This will prove especially ironic after science conquers death.

Of course, we will never know it for sure... at least not until somebody dies.

 Grin

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EDIT: There was a time when I thought that it was unfair of God to base His decision to allow everyone to die, on the sin of only two people (Adam and Eve - they didn't believe God). But now I see (by some of the adamant unbelievers in this forum) that we would have been down the tubes anyway.

You should check out the book of Enoch (it's here, not in the bible). It talks about why humans got so out of control, that God sent a flood to wash most away.

Book of Enoch might be interesting. But Graham Hancock has provided the answer, even though he doesn't realize he has done so.

Youtube search on "Graham Hancock" and watch a few hours of his videos. He shows that modern archaeology has found Atlantis - the worldwide trade organization that was probably a one-world government. The thing that he doesn't say is that Atlantis was destroyed by the Great Flood of Noah's day. Of interest is his investigation of Gobekli Tepe, in Turkey.

Another thing that Hancock found is that those people were deep into drug use. But their drug use was of a different kind. It was a method to open themselves up to what we would call the spirits of demons. The whole spirit world operates in a different way for different reasons than we expect or understand. Part of it provides people access to the kind of thinking that helps them develop technology. Part of it turns people away from God.

God is protecting us by limiting drug use, even though the people He is using to do it don't realize that they are being used by God. When we get far enough into drug use again, that we call the devil back up from the abyss, shortly after that, Jesus will return. Remember, Jesus said, "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the [second] coming of the Son of Man."

Smiley

I would trust Enoch over Graham Hancock. Enoch is referenced by other people in the bible, and also has several verses that say about the same thing as other verses in the bible. I won't say there isn't an Atlantis, there most likely was.

"Part of it provides people access to the kind of thinking that helps them develop technology. Part of it turns people away from God."

I don't know if you're trying to say using drugs to develop technology is good or bad here. It seems like you think it's ok in some ways. Nothing good can come from using psychotropic drugs, ever. It opens you up to demons.

Proverbs 20:1 Wine is a mocker, strong drink a brawler, and whoever is led astray by it is not wise.

Proverbs 23:29-35 Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness of eyes? Those who tarry long over wine; those who go to try mixed wine. Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in the cup and goes down smoothly. In the end it bites like a serpent and stings like an adder. Your eyes will see strange things, and your heart utter perverse things.

Those lines are just for wine and beer, psych drugs are much worse.

Enoch clearly says that the demons brought in technology and tools, that they didn't have back then. Things like mirrors, and makeup, and swords. You can see mirrors and makeup would lead to pride or feeling bad about appearance. Swords would be used to hurt each other. They brought items (technology at the time) that brought more sin and pain. When the humans were simple, they were happy. Ignorance is bliss. Technology corrupted them. The more technology we have as a human race, the more we sin. I'm not saying technology is all bad, and people should stop using it. I'm just saying in general, it's corrupted us over time.

The thing that I am saying is, how do we go from a world that is reasonably stable to one that God would destroy? How do we go from stability to such wickedness that Jesus would predict, "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man?" Worldly people and atheists don't place any strength in the Bible, even if they happen to read it. If they read the Book of Enoch, they consider it fictional.

No. The way we go to a bad world is through sinning. The way we go to a world that God would destroy is through drugs - demon contact. Without knowing it, Graham Hancock and a few others have shown why it happened to the world of Noah's day, Atlantis.

The timing of Hancock and other archaeologists is off. They think it happened 12,500 years ago, but because of changes in the way physics operates - Rupert Sheldrake shows this - we don't know exactly when it happened. The Bible suggests about 5,000 years ago. But the Bible isn't to be used for showing exact things like the direct times of the past... at least not in everything.

In other words, Graham Hancock is corroborating the basic things that Enoch wrote.

Drugs cause people to contact demons for technology. Contacting demons isn't something like one does when he talks to another person on the phone. Demon contact includes waking up parts of the brain in such a way that one can, at times, calculate scientific phenomenon in ways that he could never think without the drugs. When the people of early earth did it, they moved away from God and into trusting themselves. This is something God did not allow back then, and will not allow in the future.

We are gradually moving into a time when the world will be ripe for another destruction from God like the flood. But this time Jesus will return and straighten things out permanently. There's no getting around it.

If you see a formal opening of the room of knowledge under the left(?) front paw of the Sphinx - a thing that the Egyptian government is not currently allowing - you will know that the knowledge of the ancients - the things that brought their destruction down on them in the Great Flood - are about to be revealed to mankind again. Mankind thinks that it can manage such knowledge. But they can't. It will only prove to destroy us again, like it did the first time... this time through the returning of Jesus.

Smiley
36685  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Won't you take the Vasectomy Pledge with me, brother? on: July 17, 2015, 04:22:02 AM
I was thinking of getting married again, just to father a few dozen more children.

If you look through the Old Testament, it was not wrong to take more than one wife. So, why not today? Nobody says you have to remain in the U.S.

As a warning, if you go this route, consider the Spanish word for "wife" - "esposa." You make a word plural (most of the time) in Spanish the same way you do in English. You add an "s" to the word. So, what does "esposas" mean? Check the Spanish dictionary. It doesn't mean "wives." It means "handcuffs" or "shackles." Do you think those Spaniards knew something that they weren't afraid to incorporate right into their language?

 Cheesy
36686  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: July 17, 2015, 04:14:48 AM
The peace of an atheist may last for a day, but the peace of a saved theist will last forever.
This will prove especially ironic after science conquers death.

Of course, we will never know it for sure... at least not until somebody dies.

 Grin

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EDIT: There was a time when I thought that it was unfair of God to base His decision to allow everyone to die, on the sin of only two people (Adam and Eve - they didn't believe God). But now I see (by some of the adamant unbelievers in this forum) that we would have been down the tubes anyway.

You should check out the book of Enoch (it's here, not in the bible). It talks about why humans got so out of control, that God sent a flood to wash most away.

Book of Enoch might be interesting. But Graham Hancock has provided the answer, even though he doesn't realize he has done so.

Youtube search on "Graham Hancock" and watch a few hours of his videos. He shows that modern archaeology has found Atlantis - the worldwide trade organization that was probably a one-world government. The thing that he doesn't say is that Atlantis was destroyed by the Great Flood of Noah's day. Of interest is his investigation of Gobekli Tepe, in Turkey.

Another thing that Hancock found is that those people were deep into drug use. But their drug use was of a different kind. It was a method to open themselves up to what we would call the spirits of demons. The whole spirit world operates in a different way for different reasons than we expect or understand. Part of it provides people access to the kind of thinking that helps them develop technology. Part of it turns people away from God.

God is protecting us by limiting drug use, even though the people He is using to do it don't realize that they are being used by God. When we get far enough into drug use again, that we call the devil back up from the abyss, shortly after that, Jesus will return. Remember, Jesus said, "As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the [second] coming of the Son of Man."

Smiley
36687  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: July 16, 2015, 04:28:35 PM
Fact: Today there are more atheists and less Christians in America than there were yesterday. The same will be true tomorrow. And the day after that.

How do I know this to be true? Simple demographic realities. Christians are much more common among the older (read: dying off) generations, while atheists are much more common among the younger generations.

That's why there is more Homeland Security day by day... to protect the Christians from terrorists.

 Cheesy
36688  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Most of Atheists knows that the God exist more than we do - Shocking truth! on: July 16, 2015, 04:27:15 PM
hi

Yes, Most of Atheists knows that the God exist more than we do, but they just hate god so bad and they hate the idea of being controlled by him , they are against god, deep deep in there heart and you cant change them .

an Atheist is very smart , he knows that "if he exist , the god and other things like me the "OP" of this thread exist somewhere.....)

But they hate him, and they want to take him down for their reasons "if they could", but they cant so what they do is simply this : Make you an atheist. Why?

cause they know Atheists will go to hell ,So why not some friends with them  Smiley

Let me remind you Atheists don't believe in God.

Someone that believes in God and hates him is not atheist.


Hi, Fluffer. Didn't know you were in the neighborhood.

That's why most atheists are blatant liars.

Smiley

Well I wouldn't know if they are lying or not. I guess some might be.
Perhaps the lying ones could gets jobs being religious priests? I mean, a priest that refused to lie wouldn't get very far. Cheesy


Like you said, Fluffer. You wouldn't know, and you don't. And you guess a lot. That's why others are her explaining it to you.

 Cheesy
36689  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Most of Atheists knows that the God exist more than we do - Shocking truth! on: July 16, 2015, 11:01:20 AM
hi

Yes, Most of Atheists knows that the God exist more than we do, but they just hate god so bad and they hate the idea of being controlled by him , they are against god, deep deep in there heart and you cant change them .

an Atheist is very smart , he knows that "if he exist , the god and other things like me the "OP" of this thread exist somewhere.....)

But they hate him, and they want to take him down for their reasons "if they could", but they cant so what they do is simply this : Make you an atheist. Why?

cause they know Atheists will go to hell ,So why not some friends with them  Smiley

Let me remind you Atheists don't believe in God.

Someone that believes in God and hates him is not atheist.


Hi, Fluffer. Didn't know you were in the neighborhood.

That's why most atheists are blatant liars.

Smiley
36690  Other / Politics & Society / Re: in america surrounded by retards and nut jobs on: July 16, 2015, 10:58:54 AM
Your avatar suggests that you're a blonde.     Grin

Was going to ask why anyone would go around making such stupid responses, I see an ad link in your sig space so I guess that answers that question.  Enjoy the .1 penny or whatever they may have paid you for lame posts you almost earned it.  

I can accept that. But I guess I was wrong about the blonde part. Your response wasn't harsh enough for a blonde.

It's called the mill (or mille, or mil) - $0.001 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mill_%28currency%29.

Smiley
36691  Other / Politics & Society / Re: To you Mr Atheist - Do you believe i have a friend called hatim ? on: July 16, 2015, 10:29:26 AM
Quote from: link=topic=1124579.msg11892751#msg11892751 date=1437038275
So You will believe,  ("Why not")  , than Why Not God ?
I just told you exactly why not. As unlikely as it is that a person making a clichéd argument about the existence of god on an Internet forum would have a least one friend, the concept is at least self-consistent and is not logically or physically impossible, and hence is believable (albeit with some difficulty). The notion that the universe was created by an omnipotent God is another matter altogether, and in any case has nothing in common with belief in a random forum-user's friend, so it isn't a valid comparison in the first place.

Right.

At least you can determine that the universe was created by God, if you study cause and effect, complex universe without any apparent reason for the complexity, and universal entropy in enough detail.

But we don't even know you, kayenpal. So, why should we believe or not believe?

Smiley
36692  Other / Politics & Society / Re: To you Mr Atheist - Do you believe i have a friend called hatim ? on: July 16, 2015, 10:24:30 AM
is this a trick question or something?

No, its a simple question , Do you believe that i have a friend called hatim ?




----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me if you are lying or not, and maybe I will have a good chance of believing correctly.

Smiley



if i said im not lying would you believe me ?

Was rhetorical.

Wouldn't have even thought about it if you hadn't posted. So, I guess I don't believe, and I don't not believe.

And please don't tell us if you have some friend with such a name or not. We are all too busy with life.

Smiley

Yea you are too busy sorry Wink , anyways you said you dont believe, Well, my friend does exist  Smiley and guess what? he doesn't care if you believe in him or not, infact he is laughing so hard after reading your answer, but anyways the god does care my friend Smiley

Didn't say I don't believe. Said that I didn't believe or not believe. Reason for saying this is I have no reason for believing or not believing.

You didn't say that you had a friend with that name (at least not in your first post). You only asked what we believe. We never thought about it. That is the reason we don't believe or not believe.

If you say that you have such a friend, perhaps then we will be able to determine if we believe you or not.

Smiley
36693  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Most of Atheists knows that the God exist more than we do - Shocking truth! on: July 16, 2015, 10:18:31 AM
Some of it has to do with pride.

I have shown that when you combine the detailed knowledge about cause and effect, complex universe without any apparent reason for the complexity, and universal entropy, that the result is "God." So, there are going to be those who will be envious of me because I thought of it rather than they.

One thing we need to do is to learn to believe and trust in God more than we do now. We, also, need to understand the fact of God's love for us, based on the observations of the universe we see around us and within.

As difficult as it is to understand how an atheist can be so truthful in some things, but so untruthful regarding God, we can't let it drag us down. We need to move ahead in faith.

Smiley
36694  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: July 16, 2015, 09:56:13 AM
The peace of an atheist may last for a day, but the peace of a saved theist will last forever.
This will prove especially ironic after science conquers death.

Of course, we will never know it for sure... at least not until somebody dies.

 Grin

----------

EDIT: There was a time when I thought that it was unfair of God to base His decision to allow everyone to die, on the sin of only two people (Adam and Eve - they didn't believe God). But now I see (by some of the adamant unbelievers in this forum) that we would have been down the tubes anyway.
36695  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The road to the End of Religion: How sex will kill God on: July 16, 2015, 09:54:49 AM
I was hit by a truck on my bike once...
Massive head trauma... that explains a lot.

He must be retarded or autistic because his worldview is so narrow, he can't imagine "other realities" and gets angry if someone claims he is wrong.

If you were carrying a truck on YOUR bike, I can't understand why it wouldn't have slapped you in the face at least twice.

 Cheesy
36696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: To you Mr Atheist - Do you believe i have a friend called hatim ? on: July 16, 2015, 09:51:34 AM
is this a trick question or something?

No, its a simple question , Do you believe that i have a friend called hatim ?




----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me if you are lying or not, and maybe I will have a good chance of believing correctly.

Smiley



if i said im not lying would you believe me ?

Was rhetorical.

Wouldn't have even thought about it if you hadn't posted. So, I guess I don't believe, and I don't not believe.

And please don't tell us if you have some friend with such a name or not. We are all too busy with life.

Smiley
36697  Other / Politics & Society / Re: To you Mr Atheist - Do you believe i have a friend called hatim ? on: July 16, 2015, 01:02:04 AM
Who is hatim?


Hatim is the name of my friend so do you believe that i have this friend or not ?

Tell me if you are lying or not, and maybe I will have a good chance of believing correctly.

Smiley
36698  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate islam ? come, i have a simple cure for you brother :) on: July 16, 2015, 12:52:40 AM
I find Islam to be a kind and peaceful religion. I know that my Muslim friends pray that one day DAESH will convert to Islam and stop worshiping the devil.  Wink
But why don't you call the assholes by their correct name?

ISIS, not DAESH.
IS, not ISIS.

IS as in "Islamic State"? correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there other Islamic State that doesn't have any ties to ISIS (or whatever you call it)?

Right.

If you can't make it all the way to saying "ISLAM," just say "ISIS," like the little kids do. Much easier. And if "ISIS" is too difficult, "IS" will do.

Smiley
36699  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Do you hate islam ? come, i have a simple cure for you brother :) on: July 16, 2015, 12:50:23 AM
it's better just to believe in higher power (God) without being in any religion. at least in my opinion

And then how can you know God without religion? It sounds absurd for me. Why do you need to believe in "higher power" without worship it/him?

You can easily believe in God and don't have to do anything else. There are no rules or anything to follow. God has never asked for worship.

Believing in God and believing in organized religion are two different things. Religion demands you should worship God, or in other words, it's man demanding you should worship God, as all organized religions are man-made.






Right.

Even what most people call science is a form of religion. And atheism certainly is religion.

Smiley
36700  Other / Politics & Society / Re: in america surrounded by retards and nut jobs on: July 16, 2015, 12:43:31 AM
Your avatar suggests that you're a blonde.     Grin
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