To the admin, have you considered a little raise of prize pool for the freeroll? There are many many people (at least 270 in every freeroll), and 10$ seems too low  You should look at other sites like Nitrogensports which only give out 1 chip, and still have 10-20 people playing. Most of the people just play for the fun, and not the money. 10$ seems good enough, you shouldn't be comparing it with the number of people playing it. Its free money and 10$ is more than enough for a freeroll. Even pokerstars offers 100$ for 18,000 people in their freerolls. So and so, I'm not so secure about the fun, time of freeroll is in the middle between 3-5 hours and 5 hours of poker are so heavy for a player which only have fun. So, I think the same, 10$ is great, considering the other site, betcoin is the best  We certainly appreciate the response and we offer the daily freerolls, there is also a daily 10 mbtc freeroll with less players as well as numerous sponsored freerolls and options. Thank you Ginaluca and everyone for your feedback. you need to fix your withdrawals.! they are so slow always.. hire someone who will make it approve it faster its boring to wait 12+ hours to get your money .. regards. -Katerniko1 My understanding was that after the first withdrawal, future ones would be faster (they evaluate accounts on the first one). Is this not true? (That's what it said in one of the FAQs) |
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Freeroll is too much low, do you have considered to raise it? I think that many user will come in your website and it could be a good thing for you.
Not really, freeroll will only attract freeroller who will not play on the ring games. Means that this is not a good condition to the site. Agreed. Freerolls should be based on those that contributed to the site through play. A "point" system would suffice, such that x points are needed to enter. Or even a hand played count. Essentially, keep the "only going to play free" players out of them and give more incentive for playing ring games and paid tournaments. |
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Indamuck I understand your pain buddy , but there is nothing can be done to change what happened
we all started with lucky flop since their launch and everyone of us detected some bugs or annoying things
now at least big fish knows what people want , and as I said I'm against kicking out inactive people from tourneys but you can see now that there are many people here requested that and I repeat this wrong 100% but that was what people wanted
just let it go buddy and let's hope that lucky flop will be the heaven someday cause honestly I'm not playing mainly in lucky flop due the lack of players but none of the sites that I play in have an admin like big fish , he only cares about the players more than business
the best solution is to not kick out inactive players from tourneys just let people steal their blinds untill they are back or dead
there is also another great solution which is used by WPN in the 250$ first depositers freerolls which is you give people only 100 chips at the beginning with one free rebuy with more chips ( 10K in Lucky flop ) so inactive people at the beginning of the tourney will lose their chips fast while the people who played the tourney from the beginning can be inactive cause they have claimed the free rebuy
That's it..... I'm setting it to 9999 hands. Who ever else complains about inactive players can just wait I guess. So all tourneys on lucky flop are auto folding your hands the whole time and you will not lose your seat. Sorry again Inda and like I said I have that 5th place prize for you even though you said you wanna give up your account. Lmk! Is this for both freerolls and paid tournaments, or just paid tournaments? |
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I must say this is really interesting, today I personally seen it going up to over 30x and once even over 60x!
I have to try my luck with this one!
well that can happen easy  it can go even over 100000x but will you be so hard balls not to cashout earlier  regards. -Katerniko1 A couple days ago it went to ~667k and then the very next time it went to 80k+. |
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invested a bit more then 0.1 and only todays couple hours of investing divesting i made bit more then 1% very nice i hope that will keep going that good thanks moneypot  regards. -Katerniko1 Today has been an out-liar, to be honest. The profit from today is higher than any 1-4 day period over the past 50 or so days I've been tracking. That said, going up is definitely a good thing! We're closing in on break-even it looks like (down by around 5% at the moment from when I invested ~40 days ago). |
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great update i think this is first wallet with this feature , you are doing great job! Moneypot is the best. can I invest more without option to divest?
Thanks. And yes, you you can add more money during this time. We'll also change it so you can continually extend the divestment-lock time, but not shorten it. This is a great feature. I had a manual lock put on an account in the past when it was compromised. I wasn't doing anything with the funds on the site but someone tried to withdraw it, so support allowed me to put a manual one on it to keep anything like that from happening again. These things are a great asset, . |
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Please PM me if you are missing payment for some posts from 2 weeks ago. Some people had no issue, some people did (please PM me the details)! Thank you!
Tossed a PM, . About the 10% increase, that may or may not fix it. One of the issues here is that if the decrease comes first, it becomes a 11.11~% difference to get back to where it should be. |
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My last payment was off again. I checked stats just a few minutes prior, and had like 14 posts not counted (which is normal for me) and had an 8-9 post buffer. I ended up being paid "0.1144" instead of 0.13 (the amount it said just a couple minutes prior was what should be paid out).
Also Macro if you could look into that week payments were "glitched" for many. I have not heard what is happening with that. If it's going to be paid, or if I should right it off. Still best sig campaign around Yep, its the best sig campaign around. Bitcoin boy replied to my other week's payment being short, he will be pushing the missed posts to the next payment, but by the time he did i was short 10% on the next payment. Or 10 posts i guess. Both of my weeks have been short now. And the stats were right up until payment both times but weren't paid out properly. Really not sure why it's not paying out the right amounts anymore, and I have plenty of padding post-wise as well. |
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My last payment was off again. I checked stats just a few minutes prior, and had like 14 posts not counted (which is normal for me) and had an 8-9 post buffer. I ended up being paid "0.1144" instead of 0.13 (the amount it said just a couple minutes prior was what should be paid out).
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Hey Betcoin
yesterday I played some WPN games and generated more than 0.75$ as buy-in fee , but I only got 9 status points
are you not calculating the full fee when your players play WPN games ??
I want to know full info about the VIP and rakeback when we are talking about WPN games cause I'm turning to SNG games and everyone knows that rakeback is really important in SNG games
https://www.betcoin.ag/vip I just found they decrease the program of poker, it was 1 chip rake = 6 status points, but now is 5 status points, they increased the program of casino and sportsbook, now wager 1 btc = 20 status points, it was 10 status points. Yep, all your information in both posts checks out. Here's an archive of the page for confirmation: https://web.archive.org/web/20150512164703/https://www.betcoin.ag/vip |
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Would you be will to use escrow?
And I will release funds from the escrow AFTER the website has been set up on my side and after i can confirm I make over 2K monthly?
you mean release the funds to the seller AFTER a month of operations and you made $2,000 USD? Yeah I lol'ed at that one.  Same here... BTW, a little off-topic, but curious: what's your chargeback ratio like with something like this? |
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We cannot stop criminals from doing crime.... !!!! The most common argument is, Bitcoin enabled him/her to do this or that... FFS what did these people use before there
were Bitcoin? Monopoly money or cash? It's as if it's becoming the new fashion to blame Bitcoin for everything that is being done these days
Very true. Good thing people don't ever use cash for anything illegal, otherwise everyone would try to get that banned, too. Oh wait, lol. |
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Hi, this account of mine stromma44 has been enrolled in bitx campaign but at present in my account details on bitsig.website if I put my uid then my posts are not getting counted and payment per post is also showing 0. So what is the reason behind that? Seems like your payment rate became 0. Fixed it! Did you get a chance to look into incorrect payments last cycle yet? In my case, it's 0.0039, which isn't a lot, just the principle, :p. |
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The best way to make bit coin transactions untraceable and completely anonymous is to use bit mixer a few times after it you transactions will surely be untraceable as no one will know real bitcoin addressess
There have been studies done with mixers that show even after using multiple of them, there are still tracks that can be followed. While they definitely help obfuscate things, they aren't the ultimate solution. References please. Anyone using a mixing service can use the blockchain.info taint analysis tool to determine if there is any correlation between coins submitted to the service and coins received. A proper mixing service will return bitcoins with zero percent taint. No taint means that the coins you received back from the mixer cannot be correlated to the coins you sent. Everyone knows that mixing services are popular with darknet drug vendors so the coins you get back from the mixer might be traced back to one of the darknet markets. That would be a separate concern. Will this work for you? There's been evaluations outside of MIT, as well, showing similar situations. Thanks for the link, much appreciated. NP! It's worth noting that this particular experiment was a couple years ago, and mixing services may be slightly better at what they do now, but I'd assume the detection mechanics here would still be in play, if not be more refined to be faster and more accurate. |
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The best way to make bit coin transactions untraceable and completely anonymous is to use bit mixer a few times after it you transactions will surely be untraceable as no one will know real bitcoin addressess
There have been studies done with mixers that show even after using multiple of them, there are still tracks that can be followed. While they definitely help obfuscate things, they aren't the ultimate solution. References please. Anyone using a mixing service can use the blockchain.info taint analysis tool to determine if there is any correlation between coins submitted to the service and coins received. A proper mixing service will return bitcoins with zero percent taint. No taint means that the coins you received back from the mixer cannot be correlated to the coins you sent. Everyone knows that mixing services are popular with darknet drug vendors so the coins you get back from the mixer might be traced back to one of the darknet markets. That would be a separate concern. Will this work for you? There's been evaluations outside of MIT, as well, showing similar situations. |
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With a larger house edge, you will lose more rolls/hands then what you would have won if there was a 0% house edge.
The difference between the two then is a 10x multiplier. Instead of failing 100 rolls, you've failed 1k rolls. So it still has the same net effect. |
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Expected profit is Wager amount * investors edge. But as the investors edge on moneypot is extremely variable, it can't be calculated with the "wagered amount" displayed on the site. Thats why I'd love to see it displayed.
Example: If the amount wagered goes up 100 BTC, it could mean +1 BTC expected value for investors, or close to +0 BTC expected value, depending on the composition of the bets that led to the 100 BTC wager.
Ahhh, so you mean like: Bets 61,049,903 Wagered 10,398,319,818.69 bits Bets Profit 95,132,383.84 bits (0.91%) Expected Profit 92,179,703.39 bits (0.89%) But showing the Expected Profit for all sites (on the main page, in the box with all the other information)? If so, I'm all for that. This number is not right either. its the expected profit of --> (APP dev + Moneypot + Investors) Ahhhh, I think I follow now. So basically just encapsulate the investor profit from everything else for clarity purposes. Close the investors profit we already know! But the expected profit we don't know  There we go, finally. "Expected profit" could mean future or past. I think that's what was catching me. You mean the expected profit of bets that have already been made. It kept clicking in my head as looking for expected profit going into the future. English, huh? |
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Expected profit is Wager amount * investors edge. But as the investors edge on moneypot is extremely variable, it can't be calculated with the "wagered amount" displayed on the site. Thats why I'd love to see it displayed.
Example: If the amount wagered goes up 100 BTC, it could mean +1 BTC expected value for investors, or close to +0 BTC expected value, depending on the composition of the bets that led to the 100 BTC wager.
Ahhh, so you mean like: Bets 61,049,903 Wagered 10,398,319,818.69 bits Bets Profit 95,132,383.84 bits (0.91%) Expected Profit 92,179,703.39 bits (0.89%) But showing the Expected Profit for all sites (on the main page, in the box with all the other information)? If so, I'm all for that. This number is not right either. its the expected profit of --> (APP dev + Moneypot + Investors) Ahhhh, I think I follow now. So basically just encapsulate the investor profit from everything else for clarity purposes. |
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Out of curiosity, why do so many sites/apps on moneypot seem to be competing to be the lowest house edge? I wouldn't think that small differences in the house edge would make that much of a difference for most players, especially since most players are not going to have a large enough bankroll or play enough rolls to have the EV of their strategy measured.
Price competition is always the easiest thing for new businesses to do to attract customers. Of course they could also attract players through building a great community, organizing fun events and contests, adding unique features, optimizing site performance etc, but all these take a lot of time and effort. Well the point is that the most gamblers do not gamble in a way that small changes in the house edge will affect them. Granted the price is lower on paper, however I don't think most gamblers will win very many bets with a .1% house edge they would have lost on a 1% house edge, and it would probably affect the overall outcome of most players runs. I think that the important thing here to remember is that house edge needs to be taken in relation to other house edges. To help break it down a bit, let's say we're going between 1% and 0.1%, with a wager of $10.00. *At 1%, the house will take an average of $0.10 *At 0.1%, the house will take an average of $0.01 What we're seeing here is a 10x difference between the two, despite how small it looks. Let's assume someone goes with 1 BTC now. *At 1%, the house will take an average of 0.01 BTC *At 0.1%, the house will take an average of 0.001 BTC Note that all of this is based on the play-through of just 1 BTC. Generally speaking, people will play through hundreds of times what they brought in. It's entirely possible to play through 100 BTC with just a 0.1 BTC bankroll, for example. So let's use that now: *At 1%, the house will take 1 BTC (essentially almost guaranteeing a full loss) *At 0.1%, the house will take 0.1 BTC (very close to a guarantee of a full loss) The more you're playing through, and the more you're betting, the bigger the difference between 0.1% and 1% really is. It's a factor of 10. |
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Expected profit is Wager amount * investors edge. But as the investors edge on moneypot is extremely variable, it can't be calculated with the "wagered amount" displayed on the site. Thats why I'd love to see it displayed.
Example: If the amount wagered goes up 100 BTC, it could mean +1 BTC expected value for investors, or close to +0 BTC expected value, depending on the composition of the bets that led to the 100 BTC wager.
Ahhh, so you mean like: Bets 61,049,903 Wagered 10,398,319,818.69 bits Bets Profit 95,132,383.84 bits (0.91%) Expected Profit 92,179,703.39 bits (0.89%) But showing the Expected Profit for all sites (on the main page, in the box with all the other information)? If so, I'm all for that. |
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