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3681  Other / Off-topic / Re: What's your typing speed? on: January 26, 2013, 09:32:04 AM
First try:

Second try:



Damn, I suck at typing.
3682  Economy / Economics / Re: How much is a chicken in BTC in your place? on: January 26, 2013, 09:25:58 AM
A lot of em here. Even more if you go buy it from the source from the farms. About 7-8 KG's of processed chickens if you go to the local hypermarket.

PS: I'm referring to 1 BTc, of course.
3683  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much do you guys make off mining? on: January 25, 2013, 04:16:56 PM
how many bitcoin do you think i could mine in one day on just a regular computer with nothing special?
Assuming no notable graphics cards, about ฿0.02 per month using CPU. On a dual 5850 system, overclocked to the max, about ฿0.10 per day or ฿3.11 per month.
3684  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Announcement] Avalon ASIC Ships on: January 25, 2013, 02:53:19 PM
I was surprised that I was the only core developer who paid for a unit.
This is not actually true, I bought four Avalon units. (I didn't see any reason to whine about being snubbed in public, but since it's now being repeated as fact— I might was well correct it).

I stand corrected.  That was what the Avalon guy told me.

No tracking/shipping info yet.


Is it shipped through a courier like DHL/Fedex or China Post? Seems strange to not have given you the shipping info yet...
3685  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: First expierience with PaySafeCard -> Bitcoin on: January 25, 2013, 02:09:55 PM
How I got scammed? That is why I say I am stupid, really stupid!! He wasn't even tricky.

1. He was a new user, registered for about a day
2. He asked me for the code to send along with my bitcoin-address
3. I asked him if I could give him just two of my three codes first to see if he is a scammer (why didn't I send just one? or a cheaper one? ^^)
4. He told me he would use a bitcoin-anonymiser and it would take a little longer

and yeah, never received the coins - why the hell did I trust him? That was plain stupid, and I always thougt "no way I am gonna get scammed" haha yeah  Grin Learning something for the next time

Oh and he said he would give me 9 BTC for about $160.00 and that wasn't suspicious 'cause it costs right about that amount on MT.GOX

edit: Question: How would you trade with PSC? Make an escrow or what? That is what confused me and why I trusted him I guess...
Use escrow. Better still, trade with someone trusted.
3686  Economy / Services / Re: renting out my signature space on: January 25, 2013, 01:43:18 PM
You have 30 posts...
That's why its only .3 but if he had 60 posts it would be .6.   Grin
Renting out my signature for BTC 33.4 a month!  Tongue

Back on topic, OP - you really need to take a look at the going rates, don't you? I doubt you'll get advertisers for more than 0.05 per month, and that's overestimating.
3687  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 2 BTC - 12 Days on: January 25, 2013, 01:37:24 PM
Awesome!  Grin
3688  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How the hell does bitcoin-otc work? on: January 25, 2013, 08:15:41 AM
Thanks, got the .1.
I'm still confused as of where you are though - are you registered yet? (via PGP in the #bitcoin-otc database)
The hardest part IMO is the registering part - you'll have to figure out the PGP stuff first. Honestly, it's easier if you use a GUI based client like Cryptophane which simplifies the PGP part. Get it here: http://code.google.com/p/cryptophane/
3689  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: it mining worth it these days? on: January 25, 2013, 08:11:54 AM
I found this link from BFL interesting - Get Right Quick?  Not So Fast.

In some other threads around these forums, I have heard people discussing the same topic and come to the conclusion that a 'Single' from BFL could pay for itself after 6 months, and then produce diminishing amounts of BTC after that.

If you invested $1299 and it paid off after 6 months, and then you made, lets say, $60/month every month at a declining rate of -$10/month, would you consider that $1299 a good investment? If so, then mining could be OK.

The first in line for the ASICs will get most of the benefit. You stand to lose the most if you pre-order one now. Why? Because if you pre-order from BFL now, in my humble opinion, it will be a long time before you receive it. Then you've lost the $1299 opportunity costs and by the time you receive your ASIC, the difficulty would have gone up, and those people who received the first generation ASIC are probably pre-ordering the 2nd gen ASIC with double the power.

tl;dr: Consensus seems to be that you could make a small amount of money with ASIC mining, but don't expect that much unless you are one of the first batch.
This. Assuming ASIC's come out at all this year.
3690  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much do you guys make off mining? on: January 25, 2013, 08:05:21 AM
Just note that mining kills the hardware. I've had to RMA a few of my old cards, and some cards I still have artefacts at stock clocks.
3691  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How the hell does bitcoin-otc work? on: January 25, 2013, 07:55:17 AM
Commands for use after you've registered:

http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc#Order_book_guide
http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/Using_bitcoin-otc#Trading
3692  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How the hell does bitcoin-otc work? on: January 25, 2013, 07:53:37 AM
Go get a good PGP client and generate your own PGP key first. Try Kleopatra or Cryptophane (that's what I use on Windows)

Then (skip to 5 if you're using a GUI based client like Cryptophane):
(copy and pasted from an old guide I had laying around to teach newbies)

Bitcoin-otc quickstart guide
Here's how to get quickly up and trading on bitcoin-otc on Ubuntu.

1) First off, connect to the IRC channel here. Choose a username.

2) Start a private chat with the gribble bot, in the IRC window, so you don't flood the channel messing about. All future IRC commands are to be entered into this private chat with gribble.

/msg gribble ;;help

3) Generate a gpg key (if you don't already have one). See here for details. At a command prompt, type:

gpg --gen-key

4) Publish your key.

gpg --list-keys --keyid-format long

Look for something like:

pub 4096R/46ED38A2A668A578 2011-02-18

Take the 16 digits following the slash, that's the KeyID. Now push:

gpg --send-keys --keyserver pgp.surfnet.nl 46ED38A2A668A578
gpg --send-keys --keyserver pgp.mit.edu 46ED38A2A668A578


5) Register with gribble, back in the IRC chat window with gribble:

;;gpg eregister Nick KeyID

After registering, use eauth to authenticate


;;gpg eauth BobJones


6) Gribble will spit back a http:// url. Copy that and run (if you're using commandline):
wget -O - http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/46ED38A2A668A578 | gpg --decrypt

else(using GUI):
Navigate to that site and copy the text. Paste in the 'Message' tab and decrypt it.

7) Now take the output and verify with gribble:

;;gpg everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:6132ffd1c3c4468e40303d844f3e30661bc34617054f7cc5e3fa03c8b41c376e

You should now be authenticated! Happy trading! Some useful gribble commands:

See the current exchange rate:

;;bc,mtgox

See orders for canadian dollars:

;;book cad

Privately message someone online:

/msg BobJones

Leave a message for someone offline:

;;later tell BobJones Hey there big guy!


edit: added GUI stuff.
3693  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bahasa Indonesia on: January 25, 2013, 04:58:47 AM
hahaha.. mudah mudahan hanya HOAX, kalau asik bener benar keluar, bagai mana nasib GPU untuk menambang bitcoin, pasti akan semakin susah
Peluang kekeluaran asic amat tinggi, dan ia akan keluar bagaimanapun kerana pelan dan teknologi tersebut sudah tersedia. Sesudah asic keluar, penambangan bitcoin dengan gpu akan mati.
3694  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bahasa Indonesia on: January 25, 2013, 04:40:35 AM
Ya setiap manufacturer asyik mengatakan mereka hampir hampir memasarkan produk mereka tetapi belum ada produk sebenar keluar lagi. Tetapi asic akan datang walaubagaimanapun, hanya masa tu tak tahu sahaja.
3695  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: HELP us break this block! https://www.bitlc.net/ on: January 25, 2013, 04:38:18 AM
everyone, attack!

Just leave - prop pools aren't surviving now.
3696  Local / Bahasa Indonesia (Indonesian) / Re: Bahasa Indonesia on: January 25, 2013, 04:23:45 AM
jika say memiliki modal 1000$ atau setara dengan 9.700.000 IDR, dan saya ingin membanmgun mining rig, sebaiknya sspesifikasi seperti apa yang saya butuh kan nantinya? dan kira kira berapa bitcoin yang bisa di peroleh /hari?
Saya tak tahu apakah harga bisa gpu di Indonesia, kamu boleh melihat https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Mining_hardware_comparison dan menkomparasikan apakah gpu yang boleh didapatkan dengan modal tersebut.
Gunakan http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator untuk menkalkulasikan bitcoin yang boleh didapatkan pada saat ini.

Tetapi dengan kedatangan ASIC mining rig, profit mining rig lama yang menggunakan GPU akan jatuh dengan mendadak.
3697  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How are Bitcoin addresses written in Chinese? on: January 24, 2013, 12:15:30 PM


Problem is.. that is simplified...
Taiwan/HK/Singapore hate and will not use simplified... China dislikes traditional....

One race... Two systems...

I read both just fine. It's easy to read both if you're versed in either one IMO. And no, Singapore and Malaysia use the simplified version exclusively, not the traditional version.
3698  Economy / Invites & Accounts / Re: [WTS] Steam Accounts and gifts on: January 24, 2013, 11:43:44 AM
Do I get a key or what with this?

Quote
Counter Strike: Source ~ Price $0.50 ~ Stock ~ 25

(PS: you should consider changing the color - it's hard to see under the original forum theme)
3699  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Do Trading bots control the market on: January 24, 2013, 10:20:51 AM
A customer of mine considers the trading bots to be ultimately in control of the market able to manipulate the market up or down, even to zero. Any insight I could pass on ?

It depends on the funds behind the trading bots.
3700  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ASIC or other fast homemade machine will kill BTC on: January 24, 2013, 06:46:22 AM
Anyone is free to build something that would dominate the market, much like anyone with truckloads of cash can dominate a niche. It's the beauty of the free market.
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