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3681  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: October 15, 2015, 03:46:47 AM

The Jews were God governing and self-governing. Here is how it worked.

God set up the laws through Moses. God set up the priests along with heads of families to judge the people.

The people didn't have any police. The people could do whatever they wanted. They all policed themselves and each other.

Here's how law enforcement worked. If someone did something that was against the law, he got away with it until someone complained to the heads of family or to the priests. Then the priests made a judgment, and the guilty person paid for his wrongdoing.

That's it. For hundreds of years nobody made any more laws. Everything was based on private property. You did wrong if you broke the law and harmed a person or damaged his property. The only other way you did wrong was to break one of God's ceremonial laws that He gave through Moses. If nobody complained, you got away with it. If someone complained falsely, then the complainer was the one who got punished.

Simple as that. And it works this way in America, as well. Anybody can do anything until somebody complains. Often it is the police who file formal complaints. But if the people knew that they were not guilty if they didn't harm anyone, most of the police complaints would die away. The people don't know, so they agree with the police that they were wrong, and they get punished for their agreement, not for any wrongdoing.

Smiley

Let's hope to have a king soon?


Best regards.
Iam thinking the same thing while i play POKERSTARS Cheesy Cheesy
3682  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Why do Atheists hate Religion ? on: October 15, 2015, 03:34:43 AM
What if someone took all the elements that are in the human body, in exactly the same proportions that they are in the body. He placed all the elements into a container, something like a rock tumbler, and sealed the container so that they wouldn't fall out.

Next, he turned the tumbler on and mixed the chemicals. He even ran some electricity through. He added heat and cold at different times. Some of the time he caused the container to shake, violently or less violently.

Would he ever make a human being out of it? No! Never!

The body of a person is a marvelous thing. The ABSOLUTE ONLY WAY a human being can come into existence is through a man and a woman getting together and making a baby. There is NO other way.

Atheists are upset because they can't duplicate nature in some other way. Oh, sure. They can make new people in the same way that nature allows. But they don't have even the beginning of a clue about making a human in any other way. NOT EVEN A CLUE!

When religious folks come along and tell atheists that it was God that made people, they can't simply accept that, because they know that there isn't any way to make people other than the standard way that nature provided. So they are angry at theistic religious people for thinking that they know so much.

I don't blame the atheists for being angry. Christians talk about the love of God, the love of Jesus, and all the good things that God did for us. But, even they forget that Jesus didn't like weakness. In fact, Jesus hated the weakness just as much as any good atheist. Even though Jesus was a theist, He hated weakness just like any good atheist.

Many atheists (and Christians) would be surprised to find that Jesus promoted some hate. But look at what Jesus said in Luke 14:25-27:
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Large crowds were traveling with Jesus, and turning to them he said: "If anyone comes to me and does not hate his father and mother, his wife and children, his brothers and sisters—yes, even his own life—he cannot be my disciple. And anyone who does not carry his cross and follow me cannot be my disciple."

Being a Christian is a job. It is filled with the weakness of not being able to do your own thing. It is filled with the commands to "carry" a "cross and follow" Jesus. This isn't easy. Atheists instinctively know that living a theistic life can be a burden. They hate the idea. And Christians will hate the idea, as well.

The difference is, the true Christian will often give up the good things of life to follow the theistic, Christian way. However, it takes a good Christian to actually hate the things of life because he or she is so extremely involved with following Jesus, and being a good Christian.

Smiley
Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy STUPID PERSON..You know nothing..your always wrong on this subject Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9XzN0-TQZc

SCIENCE IS THE KEY TO LIFE.. Grin
So BADECKER don.t be coming up with some excuse.. WHAT ARE THEY DOING NOW DUMB ASS
ALWAYS WRONG Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Instead of reading the bible read about science you might learn something :
 if you really think RELIGIOUS BOOKS ARE THE TRUTH THEN YOU ARE A THICK DUMB STUPID PLANT POT IDIOT WITH NO BRAINS.. Grin Grin
If you say religious books are just my faith..I.E i don.t believe 100% but i have faith..
MEANING hope the religious books are the truth but i cannot say for certain they are fact..
then that is OK with me..
But if you say god is fact and the religious books are fact..THEN WOW GIVE YOUR BRAINS A WOBBLE  YOU THICK STUPID PEOPLE Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

ALL RELIGION IS BULLSHIT Grin Grin FACT

3683  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Question about pigs and Islam on: October 15, 2015, 03:01:23 AM
Let me put it this way, Islamists are going to make PETA look like minor pranksters if they ever get wind of that research and find out who is doing this.

Seriously.

I have no clue what they would think about this.

It's not related to eating pigs.
i suppose they could do it with a halal camel Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
they will feel closer to home then Cheesy Cheesy
3684  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Revelation Prophecies: Rapture? Global Citizens are NWO? JADE HELM? CERN? on: October 07, 2015, 02:36:40 AM
A video about another false prophet: Oct. 7, 2015 is the End of the World...NOT! Chris McCann and eBible Fellowship EXPOSED!

The person claiming the world will end tomorrow also says there was a time when salvation ended in 2011, meaning no one could get saved afterwards. Totally crazy and un-biblical.

From the video description:

"Chris McCann of eBible fellowship claims that the end of the world is going to be on October 7, 2015. Furthermore, he claims that the "salvation program" ended back on May 21, 2011, when Harold Camping made his end of the world prediction. This is obviously a very sad because not only is it untrue, but it is blasphemous towards God, His Word, and to the gospel altogether.

Natalina's Article on Chris McCann and eBible Fellowship
http://extraordinaryintelligence.com/chris-mccann-and-ebible-fellowship-announce-new-end-time-date/

Guardian Reports of McCann and End of World Prediction
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/06/end-of-world-7-october-ebible-fellowship"

So if someone tried to rob your house you would shoot them.. very un-biblical of you MMH.
did jesus know he was going to die..answer yes.. did he retaliate answer no..

so what gives you the right to bare arms and retaliate against another person if you believe in jesus
are you not what they call in the bible a hypocrite..

This is obviously very sad because it is blasphemous towards God, His Word, and to the gospel altogether.thou shall not kill..jesus knew he be attacked and still never retaliated .so what gives you the right to if you believe in god and jesus..
SO FOR YOUR GOD GIVE UP YOUR GUNS BECAUSE YOUR GOING TO HELL YOU HYPOCRITE Cheesy Cheesy
So remember every time you look at your gun you are being very un-biblical  Grin
good job i don.t believe in god ..so i have no burden  ;)So all your preaching is no good if you carry a gun you are a HYPOCRITE Cheesy Cheesy
I think you are sound and a good person ..but according to god and jesus your not your going to hell
So watch out the devil is coming for you my friend Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy i am only joking Cheesy

3685  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ? on: October 07, 2015, 01:36:06 AM
Someone that don't eat meat is just an hippie. And hippies are like faggots : unnaturals !  And as you know, everything that is unnatural need to be cleaned... Maybe you'll tell I'm hard, but go tell to the fox that he has no right to eat rabbits ! That's just ridicule !

It's scum like you who needs to - and eventually will - be wiped out from the face of the earth. Anyways, I love these threads, they help my already huge ignore list to grow even more.

What you say is intolerant. So now I'm on your ignore list and you won't see this post ? I don't care because that's because you close your eyes to don't see the plague that it doesn't exist ! People who don't eat meat are stupid because their body need it.
Losvienleg ..go and jump off the roof head first you plant pot ..
DUMB ASS  Grin
3686  Other / Off-topic / Re: What Are Your Thoughts On Vegans? Or Going Vegan ? on: October 07, 2015, 12:59:18 AM
There is one way to make every one a vegan
we need to feed our kids with just veggies from when they have there first meal from a child
and learn them about animals have feeling just like you and me ..
but also they will lead a healthy long life ..
BUT i love a bacon butty and i have tried quorn and its not nice ..
so no chance for me to be a vegan or my child i fed her meat so to late ..
but  MASSIVE RESPECT TO YOU FOR BEING A VEGAN YOU ARE SUPERSTARS IN MY EYES..

 so av a nice day all you vegans and may you live long and prosper Grin
3687  Other / Politics & Society / Re: 'Cut pensioner benefits now, they will be dead in 2020 anyway' UK Tory party. on: October 06, 2015, 11:38:31 PM
LOL foreign aid, stop bombing/undermining coutries then they wont need your fkin money.

Withdraw from eu, lol  ha ha ha ha ha more fkin fear timothy.  

Wales, ireland, scotland and yes your blessed england RELY on immigration, didnt that boarding room teacher who touched you up explain the commenwealth to you?.
  
Never said abolish monarchy as for the 14% im suprised, the light at the end is getting brighter.

Missed your Trident rubbish,    its shite, compare it too russia/us nuclear weponary/budget.

A mere pebble that probably dosent work.  Just like you old chap.
why are you assuming i agree with renewing trident just because i told you getting rid of it wouldnt deliver any meaningful savings, we need to be developing our own weapons, spending a lot more on the military, ditch israel and make friends with moderate muslim countries, get out of nato and probably make friends with russia again. not going to happen until we rid ourselves of the zionist elite but as a bolshevist/anarchist or whatever you are you probably support the jewish pestilence.

why are people still suggesting taking more money in tax and from other departments to throw at welfare as if it solves anything? we've done that already, nearly doubled social security since blair and the same with the nhs, and nothing to show for it.

No stop muslims coming to Britain and SHUT THE GATES TO BRITAIN..
teach our kids to be doctors and nurses and stop bringing in foreigners to do these jobs because they work on the cheap..
WE NEED TO TEACH OUR OWN KIDS TO DO THESE JOBS..
when i walk around Britain i feel like i am in a muslim country like pakistan or Iraq  not Britain..
 RATHER HAVE A JEW THAN A MUSLIM IN MY COUNTRY YES MY COUNTRY NOT SO GREAT BRITAIN ANY MORE
MY FAMILY GO BACK CENTURIES LIVING IN BRITAIN ..SO I HAVE MORE RIGHTS THAN YOU BECAUSE MY FAMILY BUILT THIS COUNTRY AND I MEAN BUILT IT WE ARE BUILDERS  Grin Grin
SO FOR YOU TO SAY GET RID OF THE JEWS GET RID OF MUSLIMS THEY ARE A CANCER ON THIS PLANET Grin

 plus if those jews with curly locks don.t start behaving then they need to be shunned as well
all religion needs to go its all bullshit

most British people who have lived here for centuries we are sick of religion we had catholic and protestants battling each other for centuries we have had enough we are now in the 21st century and  we know religion is all bullshit
now muslims are spreading like no tomorrow
so we don.t want extreme religion any more not in Britain..












3688  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Even George W. Bush’s Former Chief Economist Says 9/11 Was an Inside Job on: October 06, 2015, 12:19:02 AM
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With conspiracy-type documentaries, the narrative is often cleverly devised so that it seems to build on itself throughout the film, making a certain agenda seem more plausible than it actually is. This gives the impression of multiple pieces of information compounding to create a convincing case. Just look at how many people think "Ancient Aliens" is a legitimate factual documentary - people are very easily taken in by the narrative, even though there is basically no evidence whatsoever.

Also, documentaries like this are inherently more biased than any other, because the makers have nothing to lose and everything to gain: A film about a 9/11 cover-up doesn't need to worry about any academic criticism, because they are already telling an alternative story. This gives the director carte blanche to push as shocking/misleading an agenda as possible, subsequently getting more youtube hits, and more money.

It's almost like a "meta-conspiracy"  Wink

Yes, youtube seems to somehow be a fantastically good collaborative assist to conspiracy theories.

Check out the "NASA didn't go to the Moon" stuff.  It's incredibly bad and devoid of critical thinking or reasoning.  Yet many of these videos have 1M+ views.  That's not quite Miley Cyrus view levels (800M) but it's very high.  Yet high school math and physics will easily debunk these.

What I see is typically arguments based on mis stated premises.  For example, assume that the Tower beams had to be melted for the Tower to fall, then proceed to show how jet fuel couldn't have done that.  Anyone who's used a torch to heat up and bend rebar would just shake their heads at this kind of idiotic logic.

But these guys just go on and on about it.
How do you know..DID WE GO TO THE MOON..
....
Even the BBC NEWS IS A JOKE.. LIARS ..


You haven't seen any videos of the moon landings, because there were no cameras on the moon to record them.

You've might have seen one or two videos of the J series lunar ascent modules taking off.

Well, I certainly have to agree with you about the BBC.
I am not saying they never went to the moon.. I don.t know what is truth any more..
what ever the government tells us is it all truth..

Going to the moon..
a fight against the Russians to see who can land man on the moon first.
all about which country is the cleverest nation is a communist nation better than capitalist nation.
So have the USA lied to win ..WHO KNOWS ?plenty of people think its all a lie.. and some good points to say why they never went to the moon

Sandy hook shootings
was this a set up so you will give up the right to bare arms..WHO KNOWS..But plenty of people with some good points seem to think it was a set up..

JFK shooting
he was going to shut down the CIA was this a set up.. WHO KNOWS..But plenty of people seem to think so..

9/11
One thing i do know is NO PASSENGER PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON..so why the need to do this
TRILLIONS GO MISSING ..Plus i could say plenty more reasons why 9/11 was a set up..

You only need to look who the MR BUSHES ARE..
THEY ARE THE MOST POWERFUL WESTERN FAMILY ON THIS PLANET..
Do the Bushes want to do good YES THEY DO but money comes first and always will..

www.youtube.com/watch?v=utRKKOUHA4A..they are just making sure they stay at the top FOR EVER AND EVER..
There offspring will have billions and billions until this planet blows up
 ITS NOT THE PEOPLES AMERICA..ITS THE BUSHES AMERICA THEY OWN IT..
So what you need to do is invent something everyone wants make billions and then buy your son a presidents job..and then you can give all your family and friends all the best contracts and the best money making jobs ..SIMPLES..
The only hard part is inventing something everyone wants..THEN YOU CAN BECOME LIKE A BUSH..
So its up to you do you become a good president or a bad one ..its all up to you..

so you see its not so hard to understand why government lies to its people ..
If you where in power and on 250k a year job and someone says let me build that building there or make this law up and i will give you a million a year..how many will take this offer up.
almost everyone because if you got kids you want them to have everything in life and forever..

so politic elections should be public funded and plus the president and all his staff should get paid well more money..plus after the 5 year term you should have a vote on how good he or she as been ..and if they have been good then you double there pay as a bonus..

if there on good money they wont take back handers and if they get found out it should be classed as treason ..
just say the president gets paid 10 million for his 5 year term..and does proper politics you would make more in taxes getting paid.. contracts going to people who have nothing to do with the governments people..so more wealth will get spread around not just to the governments family and friends..

WOW I THINK I WILL SHUT UP NOW
blah blah blah blah i have been going on a bit SHUT UP PLANT POT..this is directed at myself..
av a nice day all i am off
 I THINK I HAVE LOST THE PLOT Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


3689  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Even George W. Bush’s Former Chief Economist Says 9/11 Was an Inside Job on: October 05, 2015, 10:24:25 PM
.....
With conspiracy-type documentaries, the narrative is often cleverly devised so that it seems to build on itself throughout the film, making a certain agenda seem more plausible than it actually is. This gives the impression of multiple pieces of information compounding to create a convincing case. Just look at how many people think "Ancient Aliens" is a legitimate factual documentary - people are very easily taken in by the narrative, even though there is basically no evidence whatsoever.

Also, documentaries like this are inherently more biased than any other, because the makers have nothing to lose and everything to gain: A film about a 9/11 cover-up doesn't need to worry about any academic criticism, because they are already telling an alternative story. This gives the director carte blanche to push as shocking/misleading an agenda as possible, subsequently getting more youtube hits, and more money.

It's almost like a "meta-conspiracy"  Wink

Yes, youtube seems to somehow be a fantastically good collaborative assist to conspiracy theories.

Check out the "NASA didn't go to the Moon" stuff.  It's incredibly bad and devoid of critical thinking or reasoning.  Yet many of these videos have 1M+ views.  That's not quite Miley Cyrus view levels (800M) but it's very high.  Yet high school math and physics will easily debunk these.

What I see is typically arguments based on mis stated premises.  For example, assume that the Tower beams had to be melted for the Tower to fall, then proceed to show how jet fuel couldn't have done that.  Anyone who's used a torch to heat up and bend rebar would just shake their heads at this kind of idiotic logic.

But these guys just go on and on about it.
How do you know..DID WE GO TO THE MOON..was you on the flight going to the moon..
so all the videos we see of the moon landings are all real..
you even say youtube videos can be fake..so what makes your videos the truth ..
was you there on the moon.. ANSWER NO..
see the trouble is spendy when you see videos they are truth ..but if someone else shows you a video its a fake..
so what makes the 9/11 truth videos fake ..but the moon landing videos real..
governments love propaganda..to control the sheep..
SO THANKS 9/11 YOU OPENED MY EYES..NOW I KNOW THE TRICKS THE GOVERNMENT PULLS ON THERE OWN PEOPLE..Before 9/11 no way on this earth i thought government acts like this.But now i know its all about the money..MONEY MAKES THE WORLD GO AROUND..
Even the BBC NEWS IS A JOKE.. LIARS ..

3690  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Even George W. Bush’s Former Chief Economist Says 9/11 Was an Inside Job on: October 05, 2015, 10:02:52 PM
You may have missed the video below.....

Yet another batshit crazy nutcase making a youtube video.

I've been thinking a lot recently about why clever people believe stupid things, especially conspiracy/cover-up type ideas. There are many reasons, relating to things like confirmation bias and pattern recognition, but I believe there's another reason why this happens, and it relates to video documentaries (where the majority of conspiritards get their information).

There is no such thing as an unbiased documentary. They can get close, but the director will always have an angle that he/she wants to portray. They do this by weaving their ideas into a narrative.

With conspiracy-type documentaries, the narrative is often cleverly devised so that it seems to build on itself throughout the film, making a certain agenda seem more plausible than it actually is. This gives the impression of multiple pieces of information compounding to create a convincing case. Just look at how many people think "Ancient Aliens" is a legitimate factual documentary - people are very easily taken in by the narrative, even though there is basically no evidence whatsoever.

Also, documentaries like this are inherently more biased than any other, because the makers have nothing to lose and everything to gain: A film about a 9/11 cover-up doesn't need to worry about any academic criticism, because they are already telling an alternative story. This gives the director carte blanche to push as shocking/misleading an agenda as possible, subsequently getting more youtube hits, and more money.

It's almost like a "meta-conspiracy"  Wink
If a family member died in 9/11 towers..would you make a documentary telling lies..
Makes no sense to me ..you want the truth so why make a documentary full of lies and made up science.YOU WANT THE TRUTH..
But it seems the government wants no truth..
the government spent more money investigating Bill Clintons blow job ..
and spent less money on a 9/11 investigation ..if your mother died in 9/11 would you not want the whole truth and nothing but the truth..ANSWER YES..
So what you say is bullpoooo
Unless when we watch a 9/11 documentary..It must be like that dress on twitter..were i see a white and gold dress but you see a blue and black dress..
because no plane hit the PENTAGON because if you can see that a plane hit that building then my eyes  are playing tricks on me and i need a brain scan..
3691  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [Vote] Who did 911? on: October 05, 2015, 07:41:27 PM
Many website links have been posted in previous pages of this thread that have information in them that shows why and how the official story is bunk. The info from those website pages could be posted directly, evermore filling up the servers that host Bitcointalk. But, what would be the use? You would simply say that it wasn't true, anyway.


Smiley
Each and every time I have examined one of your links and applied high school level science to it, the claims were demonstrated to be false.

Your links can't even get a passing grade in high school.

Let's get real here.
The trouble with your high school science is you must of been taught the wrong science..
SPENDY ...what on earth did you get taught in school..now watch this video..
just watch how clever this girl is compared to your so called nasa scientist..

AND WERE DOES HER LOGIC COME FROM..WELL YOU WATCH AND SEE

www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjvCNDF4RYw..

Remember spendy the earth as been here longer than 2000 years..YOUR SCHOOLS ARE SHIT..
And also who does she thank for her logic..
Not your high school science

3692  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Computer algorithm created to encode human memories on: October 04, 2015, 10:23:47 PM
Researchers in the US have developed an implant to help a disabled brain encode memories, giving new hope to Alzheimer’s sufferers and wounded soldiers who cannot remember the recent past.

The prosthetic, developed at the University of Southern California and Wake Forest Baptist Medical Centre in a decade-long collaboration, includes a small array of electrodes implanted into the brain.

The key to the research is a computer algorithm that mimics the electrical signalling used by the brain to translate short-term into permanent memories.

This makes it possible to bypass a damaged or diseased region, even though there is no way of “reading” a memory — decoding its content or meaning from its electrical signal.

“It’s like being able to translate from Spanish to French without being able to understand either language,” said Ted Berger of USC, the project leader.

The prosthesis has performed well in tests on rats and monkeys. Now it is being evaluated in human brains, the team told the international conference of the IEEE Engineering in Medicine and Biology Society in Milan.
The project is funded by Darpa, the US Defence Advanced Research Projects Agency, which is interested in new ways to help soldiers recover from memory loss.

But the researchers say findings could eventually help to treat neurodegenerative diseases, including Alzheimer's, by enabling signals to bypass damaged circuitry in the hippocampus, the brain's memory centre.

Sensory inputs to the brain — sights, sounds, smells or feelings — create complex electrical signals, known as spike trains, which travel through the hippocampus. This neural process involves re-encoding the signals several times, so they have a quite different electrical signature by the time they are ready for long-term storage.

Damage that interferes with this translation may prevent the formation of long-term memories while old ones survive — which is why some people with brain damage or disease recall events from long ago but not from the recent past.


For the rest of the story: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/466bf22e-66a8-11e5-97d0-1456a776a4f5.html#axzz3nAnrAsKG


Pretty cool.  Wonder if this is the beginning to the cyborg race.  Wonder whatelse they can make it do.   Wonder if they could rase IQs in the stupid people.
yes you need one because you cannot spell raise.. RASE you said ..
So stop trying to be a smart ass ..RASE IQ ha ha ha..
so make sure you save up to buy one to RASE YOUR IQ  Cheesy dumb ass..
                   RAISE
3693  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: MapCoin MAPC - using Foursquare/GoogleMaps | CRYPTSY ADDED! 3 EXCHANGES on: October 04, 2015, 12:02:05 AM
Don.t worry everyone the devs know where there going with this coin Cheesy MAP
3694  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Religion in Society (Rsync) on: October 03, 2015, 01:57:20 AM
We have an inter-religious council in Russia and I can say with confidence – the coming statement of this body that unites Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Jews and Buddhists will support our state’s decision. The decision with which our state again assumes a special role in the Middle East and in particular in Syria,” Vsevolod Chaplin told reporters on Wednesday. and I can say with confidence – the coming statement of this body that unites Orthodox Christians, Muslims, Jews and Buddhists will support our state’s decision. The decision with which our state again assumes a special role in the Middle East and in particular in Syria,” Vsevolod Chaplin told reporters on Wednesday.

We have an inter-religious council in Russia YOUR WORDS NOT MINE..

Buddhism is not a religion please stop calling it a religion its much better than religion

www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfEEZvVUvKg


3695  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 03, 2015, 01:29:06 AM
Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..


Hard cases (boo hoo OREGON bluh bluh bluh bluh) make bad law, precisely because waving the bloody shirt (ZOMG THINK OF THE CHILDRENS) is a logical fallacy.

But you have fun casually (yet self-righteously) relinquishing the freedoms our Founding Fathers fought to enshrine in our Constitution.

Agitating to abandon a longstanding foundational cultural tradition (like RKBA) because of a singular emotionally traumatic event is a very female (and Marxist) reaction.  That's why we didn't let them vote until recently, and why everything has gone to shit since we did.

Wife beating?  Blame the inanimate Thing (booze) and ban alcohol!  Viva the Women's Temperance League!  Prohibition forever!  What could possibly go wrong?

Crazy off-his-meds and/or jihad guy massacre?  Blame the inanimate Thing (gun) and repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Let's just roll over and let a nice, strong tyranny have its way with our ovaries.  At least our precious offspring be Safe.  Better raped in safety than free and dead, right?

No.  No, no, no!

Fuck off to the kitchen and make me a sandwich.  You are not qualified participate in a serious discussion regarding matters of life and death.  Go watch the baby and nurture something.

Let me be clear.  Domesticated, servile, asinine people like you are the exact reason why democracy has failed.  People who don't own property/pay taxes, and have never been eligible for the draft, have no business voting.  It's a blatant conflict of interest.

Do not presume to impose your short-sighted, risk averse emotional responses on free, rational individuals.  Or you may be harmed in the attempt.

Come and take them.



So if your government said we are banning guns would you shoot anybody who tried to take your gun away..
 If you answer yes..THEN BE PREPARED FOR WAR..I can see what will happen give it 5 to 6 more times a mass shooting THEN THERE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS Grin Your country will be begging to ban them soon WATCH You will be out voted ..
Once your out voted there gone..
let face it making money criminals don.t walk in schools and shoot kids they rob you for cash..
No one cares if you get robbed only people who know you who care.
but when people walk in schools shopping malls and open fire..then everyone cares..and i see this sort of thing happening a lot more times ..more people loosing there jobs MORE MADNESS..
plus your population is growing with less jobs..MORE MADNESS..
they have already practised JADE HELM.. Cheesy Cheesy a joke by the way..or is it? Cheesy Cheesy
who knows was this a practise to prepare for when they vote for a ban on guns Cheesy Cheesy

I can understand why you want to keep your guns..You must feel safe as houses carrying a gun.
I would walk around like JOHN WAYNE if i owned one Cheesy Cheesy
GET OFF YOUR HORSE AND MILK YOUR COW Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

But the problem is to many mass shooting because to many mental people ..
And no you cannot just ban mental people from using guns because anyone can turn mental at any stage in there lives ANYBODY
plus more die with a gun not threw theft crime but by somebody you know
also if they do ban guns your crime rate will go up..So you need to give stiffer sentences for carrying a gun..NO not every criminal will give up carrying a gun but not many will pick a gun up with a 25 year sentence ..so less deaths..
REMEMBER no one cares if you get robbed only the people you know who care..
But when a school gets shot up then people care..
ANYWAY GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR MINI WAR COZ THERE COMING FOR YOUR GUNS
SOON very SOON
3696  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 02, 2015, 04:02:42 AM
.....What is wrong with crying if your a man..plus use a baseball bat a nice kitchen knife keep beside your bed Wink Wink
Plus here in the UK not many rape your wife DNA will catch them .Does this happen a lot in America
you get robbed and then they rape your wife.
you will get some cases every so often but very rare in the uk ..I mean does this happen every day or week in america..Because if it does i am glad i live in the UK..I suppose i would carry a gun if this is the case..

Yeah, some places I have been you WOULD carry legally.  Some places you'd carry even if illegally.  Best thing to do is simply move, of course, but that's not always possible.

But do me a favor and don't talk about how nice and safe the UK is.  It may be safe where you live, but some places you wouldn't come out alive....

Regardless, I view the UK as an experiment in gun control.  That's similar to some of the USA states being experiments in gun control/legal concealed carry.   We sure don't need people arguing one-size-fits-all on this issue.

From the "experiments," 20 years or so, it's definitely looking like legal ownership and concealed carry is safer for everyone.
i live in the worst city for guns and drugs in the uk i know a few who have been shot dead..
but if they could buy them on the street corner shop loads more would die for sure ..were i live 13 year olds shoot each other ..but believe me if they could get them on every street corner shop loads more would die..
This is why i am asking to ban them but also we need a law where if you carry a gun you get 25 years for carrying it
and you never get out for shooting someone even if you don.t kill them you never get out of jail for shooting them ..
kids get 5 years they do 2 years in jail and there free no matter how many times they get caught with a gun they do 2 years..
how many will carry guns now..not many..
at the end of the day if no one had a gun then no one would get shot..
we need as a planet to make it law that in public life if your caught with a gun you get 25 years just for carrying it and you do the full 25 years not half all of it..
sounds harsh but having no gun in your life and i mean every ones life.. no one as a gun ..then what problem will it cause to not have one..A GUN IS TO KILL..if a young kid or old person carries a gun then is intentions is to kill..
no ifs or buts.. because if someone pulls a gun on you or tries to rob you your intention is to kill with that gun to protect yourself
So with my law not many will want to carry a gun because they loose 25 years of there life.
if i lived in America i would carry a gun only because so many got one i need one
But if you asked me if my country said total ban and 25 years in jail for carrying a gun or lets make it legal to own a gun i would say ban them..
this is the only way to stop the criminals to give hefty sentences for carrying a gun ..
if no one is allowed a gun and then you carry one then you broke the law so now you go to jail for 25 years because your intention was to kill ..
 av a nice day ..AND SORRY FOR BABBLING ON i think i need to give me head a wobble Cheesy
i think i burnt my own head out there.
i am off

3697  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 02, 2015, 02:53:19 AM
Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..


It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

Why, just follow the sage advice of the NEW YORK TIMES on being a MODERN MAN.

I quote only 3 of their bits of wisdom(not).  Of course these are synergistically inter related trueisms, interacting with cause and effect.

16. The modern man lies on the side of the bed closer to the door. If an intruder gets in, he will try to fight him off, so that his wife has a chance to get away.

....

25. The modern man has no use for a gun. He doesn’t own one, and he never will.

26. The modern man cries. He cries often.


Huh

Why on earth did you post this response to me?

Yer but you cannot walk in a school and kill everyone with a pencil or a knife

But they can come up with ways to do something with chemicals or driving a car into a building right? Are we going to outlaw driving?
when people have guns they think differently THEY FEEL POWERFUL ..
plus ask people from NY CITY as there city gone better now guns are banned.. answer yes much nicer place to live now..just checked and i am talking a load of pooo ..they banned guns years ago and its still bad Grin Grin well there you go i was wrong Cheesy Cheesy
3698  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 02, 2015, 02:47:20 AM
Would you agree that as time goes on the less jobs there will be in the future?
If yes you agree..Then more madness will come..people loose the plot when there poor..
Think what having no job can do to a person
So believe me all these killings in schools will happen more and more plus shopping malls it will happen in..
plus what your saying is if everyone had a gun on them then they could of shot that person..
well if everyone had a gun on them more deaths would happen..
like this say i pull a gun on you and you pull a gun out and start shooting what if a random person walks past and you shoot him too and kill an innocent person.don.t you care even tho you were protecting yourself because i tried to shoot you first.
Because this happens many many a time innocent by standers getting shot because 2 people had a dispute ..
See the whole point of banning guns is not to protect you alone its to protect the masses..
plus people say you just got to do checks I.E for mental people ..anyone can turn mental..
so how do you check that ..one day i can be making loads of money have a nice house lovely wife
The next day loose my job cannot pay the mortgage my wife leaves me takes my kids with her i turn to drink go down hill..
then think ar well this is a shit life go to a corner shop by a gun walk in a shopping mall shoot loads of people and then kill myself..
so easy done and this has happened many many a time
some people shoot there whole family if they loose there jobs because they cannot stand the kids growing up poor..
There is going to be a lot more poor in the future
So more shootings fact if you make it easy to get guns more of your people will die
Its a lot easier to replace goods not so easy to replace a life

 so av a nice day
3699  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 02, 2015, 01:37:31 AM
Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..


It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.
I agree, guns dont kill people. People kill people.  If there was a mass string of pencil stabbings should we ban pencils? No. I think that criminals will always have guns period. Does a criminal care about abiding by the law?
Yer but you cannot walk in a school and kill everyone with a pencil or a knife
3700  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 02, 2015, 01:31:24 AM
Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..


It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

Why, just follow the sage advice of the NEW YORK TIMES on being a MODERN MAN.

I quote only 3 of their bits of wisdom(not).  Of course these are synergistically inter related trueisms, interacting with cause and effect.

16. The modern man lies on the side of the bed closer to the door. If an intruder gets in, he will try to fight him off, so that his wife has a chance to get away.

....

25. The modern man has no use for a gun. He doesn’t own one, and he never will.

26. The modern man cries. He cries often.

What is wrong with crying if your a man..plus use a baseball bat a nice kitchen knife keep beside your bed Wink Wink
Plus here in the UK not many rape your wife DNA will catch them .Does this happen a lot in America
you get robbed and then they rape your wife.
you will get some cases every so often but very rare in the uk ..I mean does this happen every day or week in america..Because if it does i am glad i live in the UK..I suppose i would carry a gun if this is the case..
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