What's your opinion of gun control?

[BADecker]

yes chemical one should be forbidden but natural ones should be restricted to be used in homes or places just are used for this.and it should also be forbidden to go in common places after using drugs.

Then I would use natural black powder instead of chemically processed smokeless powder for my ammo. Would that be OK to you?

 

Naw. That's bullet control.    

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[popcorn1]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

[popcorn1]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

Your right about criminals doing more crime ..
But also you need to give 25 years for carrying a gun..and you never get out of jail if you shoot someone never ever get out..See how many will carry guns now..You will always get some but not many tho..
See if you never had a gun in your life it wont mean anything not having one ..Its designed to kill..
Plus MMH i thought you believed in the bible ..THO SHALL NOT KILL..

[Spendulus]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

Why, just follow the sage advice of the NEW YORK TIMES on being a MODERN MAN.

I quote only 3 of their bits of wisdom(not).  Of course these are synergistically inter related trueisms, interacting with cause and effect.

16. The modern man lies on the side of the bed closer to the door. If an intruder gets in, he will try to fight him off, so that his wife has a chance to get away.

....

25. The modern man has no use for a gun. He doesn’t own one, and he never will.

26. The modern man cries. He cries often.

[popcorn1]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

Why, just follow the sage advice of the NEW YORK TIMES on being a MODERN MAN.

I quote only 3 of their bits of wisdom(not).  Of course these are synergistically inter related trueisms, interacting with cause and effect.

16. The modern man lies on the side of the bed closer to the door. If an intruder gets in, he will try to fight him off, so that his wife has a chance to get away.

....

25. The modern man has no use for a gun. He doesn’t own one, and he never will.

26. The modern man cries. He cries often.

What is wrong with crying if your a man..plus use a baseball bat a nice kitchen knife keep beside your bed
Plus here in the UK not many rape your wife DNA will catch them .Does this happen a lot in America
you get robbed and then they rape your wife.
you will get some cases every so often but very rare in the uk ..I mean does this happen every day or week in america..Because if it does i am glad i live in the UK..I suppose i would carry a gun if this is the case..

[Coinminer11]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

I agree, guns dont kill people. People kill people.  If there was a mass string of pencil stabbings should we ban pencils? No. I think that criminals will always have guns period. Does a criminal care about abiding by the law?

[popcorn1]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

I agree, guns dont kill people. People kill people.  If there was a mass string of pencil stabbings should we ban pencils? No. I think that criminals will always have guns period. Does a criminal care about abiding by the law?

Yer but you cannot walk in a school and kill everyone with a pencil or a knife

[Coinminer11]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

I agree, guns dont kill people. People kill people.  If there was a mass string of pencil stabbings should we ban pencils? No. I think that criminals will always have guns period. Does a criminal care about abiding by the law?

Yer but you cannot walk in a school and kill everyone with a pencil or a knife

I agree but gun control isnt the answer imho.

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

Why, just follow the sage advice of the NEW YORK TIMES on being a MODERN MAN.

I quote only 3 of their bits of wisdom(not).  Of course these are synergistically inter related trueisms, interacting with cause and effect.

16. The modern man lies on the side of the bed closer to the door. If an intruder gets in, he will try to fight him off, so that his wife has a chance to get away.

....

25. The modern man has no use for a gun. He doesn’t own one, and he never will.

26. The modern man cries. He cries often.

Why on earth did you post this response to me?

Yer but you cannot walk in a school and kill everyone with a pencil or a knife

But they can come up with ways to do something with chemicals or driving a car into a building right? Are we going to outlaw driving?

[popcorn1]

Would you agree that as time goes on the less jobs there will be in the future?
If yes you agree..Then more madness will come..people loose the plot when there poor..
Think what having no job can do to a person
So believe me all these killings in schools will happen more and more plus shopping malls it will happen in..
plus what your saying is if everyone had a gun on them then they could of shot that person..
well if everyone had a gun on them more deaths would happen..
like this say i pull a gun on you and you pull a gun out and start shooting what if a random person walks past and you shoot him too and kill an innocent person.don.t you care even tho you were protecting yourself because i tried to shoot you first.
Because this happens many many a time innocent by standers getting shot because 2 people had a dispute ..
See the whole point of banning guns is not to protect you alone its to protect the masses..
plus people say you just got to do checks I.E for mental people ..anyone can turn mental..
so how do you check that ..one day i can be making loads of money have a nice house lovely wife
The next day loose my job cannot pay the mortgage my wife leaves me takes my kids with her i turn to drink go down hill..
then think ar well this is a shit life go to a corner shop by a gun walk in a shopping mall shoot loads of people and then kill myself..
so easy done and this has happened many many a time
some people shoot there whole family if they loose there jobs because they cannot stand the kids growing up poor..
There is going to be a lot more poor in the future
So more shootings fact if you make it easy to get guns more of your people will die
Its a lot easier to replace goods not so easy to replace a life

 so av a nice day

[popcorn1]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

It's not time to give up our rights to protect ourselves from our governments.

It's time for people to realize that if someone had a gun on that gun-free zone, they could have stopped the killer from killing more people. Criminals will still get guns and people who obey the law will be the ones in danger.

Why, just follow the sage advice of the NEW YORK TIMES on being a MODERN MAN.

I quote only 3 of their bits of wisdom(not).  Of course these are synergistically inter related trueisms, interacting with cause and effect.

16. The modern man lies on the side of the bed closer to the door. If an intruder gets in, he will try to fight him off, so that his wife has a chance to get away.

....

25. The modern man has no use for a gun. He doesn’t own one, and he never will.

26. The modern man cries. He cries often.

Why on earth did you post this response to me?

Yer but you cannot walk in a school and kill everyone with a pencil or a knife

But they can come up with ways to do something with chemicals or driving a car into a building right? Are we going to outlaw driving?

when people have guns they think differently THEY FEEL POWERFUL ..
plus ask people from NY CITY as there city gone better now guns are banned.. answer yes much nicer place to live now..just checked and i am talking a load of pooo ..they banned guns years ago and its still bad well there you go i was wrong

[Spendulus]

.....What is wrong with crying if your a man..plus use a baseball bat a nice kitchen knife keep beside your bed
Plus here in the UK not many rape your wife DNA will catch them .Does this happen a lot in America
you get robbed and then they rape your wife.
you will get some cases every so often but very rare in the uk ..I mean does this happen every day or week in america..Because if it does i am glad i live in the UK..I suppose i would carry a gun if this is the case..

Yeah, some places I have been you WOULD carry legally.  Some places you'd carry even if illegally.  Best thing to do is simply move, of course, but that's not always possible.

But do me a favor and don't talk about how nice and safe the UK is.  It may be safe where you live, but some places you wouldn't come out alive....

Regardless, I view the UK as an experiment in gun control.  That's similar to some of the USA states being experiments in gun control/legal concealed carry.   We sure don't need people arguing one-size-fits-all on this issue.

From the "experiments," 20 years or so, it's definitely looking like legal ownership and concealed carry is safer for everyone.

[popcorn1]

.....What is wrong with crying if your a man..plus use a baseball bat a nice kitchen knife keep beside your bed
Plus here in the UK not many rape your wife DNA will catch them .Does this happen a lot in America
you get robbed and then they rape your wife.
you will get some cases every so often but very rare in the uk ..I mean does this happen every day or week in america..Because if it does i am glad i live in the UK..I suppose i would carry a gun if this is the case..

Yeah, some places I have been you WOULD carry legally.  Some places you'd carry even if illegally.  Best thing to do is simply move, of course, but that's not always possible.

But do me a favor and don't talk about how nice and safe the UK is.  It may be safe where you live, but some places you wouldn't come out alive....

Regardless, I view the UK as an experiment in gun control.  That's similar to some of the USA states being experiments in gun control/legal concealed carry.   We sure don't need people arguing one-size-fits-all on this issue.

From the "experiments," 20 years or so, it's definitely looking like legal ownership and concealed carry is safer for everyone.

i live in the worst city for guns and drugs in the uk i know a few who have been shot dead..
but if they could buy them on the street corner shop loads more would die for sure ..were i live 13 year olds shoot each other ..but believe me if they could get them on every street corner shop loads more would die..
This is why i am asking to ban them but also we need a law where if you carry a gun you get 25 years for carrying it
and you never get out for shooting someone even if you don.t kill them you never get out of jail for shooting them ..
kids get 5 years they do 2 years in jail and there free no matter how many times they get caught with a gun they do 2 years..
how many will carry guns now..not many..
at the end of the day if no one had a gun then no one would get shot..
we need as a planet to make it law that in public life if your caught with a gun you get 25 years just for carrying it and you do the full 25 years not half all of it..
sounds harsh but having no gun in your life and i mean every ones life.. no one as a gun ..then what problem will it cause to not have one..A GUN IS TO KILL..if a young kid or old person carries a gun then is intentions is to kill..
no ifs or buts.. because if someone pulls a gun on you or tries to rob you your intention is to kill with that gun to protect yourself
So with my law not many will want to carry a gun because they loose 25 years of there life.
if i lived in America i would carry a gun only because so many got one i need one
But if you asked me if my country said total ban and 25 years in jail for carrying a gun or lets make it legal to own a gun i would say ban them..
this is the only way to stop the criminals to give hefty sentences for carrying a gun ..
if no one is allowed a gun and then you carry one then you broke the law so now you go to jail for 25 years because your intention was to kill ..
 av a nice day ..AND SORRY FOR BABBLING ON i think i need to give me head a wobble
i think i burnt my own head out there.
i am off

[BADecker]

.....What is wrong with crying if your a man..plus use a baseball bat a nice kitchen knife keep beside your bed
Plus here in the UK not many rape your wife DNA will catch them .Does this happen a lot in America
you get robbed and then they rape your wife.
you will get some cases every so often but very rare in the uk ..I mean does this happen every day or week in america..Because if it does i am glad i live in the UK..I suppose i would carry a gun if this is the case..

Yeah, some places I have been you WOULD carry legally.  Some places you'd carry even if illegally.  Best thing to do is simply move, of course, but that's not always possible.

But do me a favor and don't talk about how nice and safe the UK is.  It may be safe where you live, but some places you wouldn't come out alive....

Regardless, I view the UK as an experiment in gun control.  That's similar to some of the USA states being experiments in gun control/legal concealed carry.   We sure don't need people arguing one-size-fits-all on this issue.

From the "experiments," 20 years or so, it's definitely looking like legal ownership and concealed carry is safer for everyone.

i live in the worst city for guns and drugs in the uk i know a few who have been shot dead..
but if they could buy them on the street corner shop loads more would die for sure ..were i live 13 year olds shoot each other ..but believe me if they could get them on every street corner shop loads more would die..
This is why i am asking to ban them but also we need a law where if you carry a gun you get 25 years for carrying it
and you never get out for shooting someone even if you don.t kill them you never get out of jail for shooting them ..
kids get 5 years they do 2 years in jail and there free no matter how many times they get caught with a gun they do 2 years..
how many will carry guns now..not many..
at the end of the day if no one had a gun then no one would get shot..
we need as a planet to make it law that in public life if your caught with a gun you get 25 years just for carrying it and you do the full 25 years not half all of it..
sounds harsh but having no gun in your life and i mean every ones life.. no one as a gun ..then what problem will it cause to not have one..A GUN IS TO KILL..if a young kid or old person carries a gun then is intentions is to kill..
no ifs or buts.. because if someone pulls a gun on you or tries to rob you your intention is to kill with that gun to protect yourself
So with my law not many will want to carry a gun because they loose 25 years of there life.
if i lived in America i would carry a gun only because so many got one i need one
But if you asked me if my country said total ban and 25 years in jail for carrying a gun or lets make it legal to own a gun i would say ban them..
this is the only way to stop the criminals to give hefty sentences for carrying a gun ..
if no one is allowed a gun and then you carry one then you broke the law so now you go to jail for 25 years because your intention was to kill ..
 av a nice day ..AND SORRY FOR BABBLING ON i think i need to give me head a wobble
i think i burnt my own head out there.
i am off

The problem with your wonderful no-gun idea is, how do we enforce the no-gun law on the crooks who get the guns anyway?

I mean, with no guns, the bobbys wouldn't even have them. You could get a bunch of bobbys to jump a crook before he could shoot them all dead, but he would get a bunch of them.

Are most of the bobbys good cops? Do you trust them to have the only guns? Will the few bad bobbys die in the gun battles with the good bobbys?

No! Rather, make it a law that everybody is required to open carry when he is off his own property and out in the public. This way the crooks will be scared to mess with anybody. And the few crazies who aren't afraid, will be put down by the citizens using their guns to protect themselves. In addition, knife and club deaths will all but disappear.

Of course, this will need to be implemented carefully, what with all those British pansies who don't understand guns anymore.

[TheButterZone]

Yer but you cannot walk in a school and kill everyone with a pencil or a knife

You can't kill "everyone" with a gun either unless you restrain them and/or have the ability to deny them medical care ad infinitum. The real-world lethality of pencils, knives, and guns, is probably equal, with proper machining, in trained hands, and against defenseless targets.

[BADecker]

Yer but you cannot walk in a school and kill everyone with a pencil or a knife

And this is exactly why criminals don't do this - use pencils or knives.

Criminals go out and get guns or make guns and then head for the school.

In a totally gun-free world, we wouldn't have guns to worry about. But now that guns have been invented, there will never be a gun-free world. There will only be those with guns, and those without them.

In addition, guns are an equalizer. A wimp might be able to stab someone with a knife. But a bully could stab someone over and over by holding him down and doing it. However, if the victim had a gun, the bully would be dead.

If both the bully and the victim had guns, there would be an equal chance that the bully would die. A gun is an equalizer. Instinctively, everyone knows this. Bullies go away when they see the victim has a gun. Bullies who are crazies will never go away, even in the face of a gun, except when they are shot.

So, having guns all around - open carry - is better for everyone, since guns aren't going away.

[iCEBREAKER]

Its time to give your guns up.
To many kids getting hold of guns.You sell them on every street corner shop and market stalls..
the more guns that float around the more shootings will happen..
OREGON seems every so many months this sort of thing will happen.
At any time in life a human can go mental..It can happen to anyone because of all sorts of reasons.
So when someone gets the idea to kill others they can do a lot of damage with a gun

Plus if you give up your guns crime will go up..But deaths will go down..
So this is your choice AMERICA ..MORE CRIME..or LESS DEATHS its all up to you..
My choice less deaths.
Also no point saying its because the government might attack us ..
If the government attacked you what would your guns do they could blow the shit out of you all with
planes tanks and helicopters..

See the constitution says you have the right to bare arms to protect yourself from a rouge government.
It was written 1787..
So they never knew about planes tanks and helicopters ..
So if the government wanted to attack you they just blow you up with a drone
What will your gun do against a drone..

So now it all comes down to protect yourself and your belongings..
But you will find more people get killed by someone they know..nothing to do with crime as in theft.
More people shoot there family than what get robbed with a gun
SO ITS TIME TO GIVE THEM UP..
plus maybe one day your police force will not carry guns only special squads.
Not your every day police officer ..Less guns less people getting trigger happy..

Hard cases (boo hoo OREGON bluh bluh bluh bluh) make bad law, precisely because waving the bloody shirt (ZOMG THINK OF THE CHILDRENS) is a logical fallacy.

But you have fun casually (yet self-righteously) relinquishing the freedoms our Founding Fathers fought to enshrine in our Constitution.

Agitating to abandon a longstanding foundational cultural tradition (like RKBA) because of a singular emotionally traumatic event is a very female (and Marxist) reaction.  That's why we didn't let them vote until recently, and why everything has gone to shit since we did.

Wife beating?  Blame the inanimate Thing (booze) and ban alcohol!  Viva the Women's Temperance League!  Prohibition forever!  What could possibly go wrong?

Crazy off-his-meds and/or jihad guy massacre?  Blame the inanimate Thing (gun) and repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Let's just roll over and let a nice, strong tyranny have its way with our ovaries.  At least our precious offspring be Safe.  Better raped in safety than free and dead, right?

No.  No, no, no!

Fuck off to the kitchen and make me a sandwich.  You are not qualified participate in a serious discussion regarding matters of life and death.  Go watch the baby and nurture something.

Let me be clear.  Domesticated, servile, asinine people like you are the exact reason why democracy has failed.  People who don't own property/pay taxes, and have never been eligible for the draft, have no business voting.  It's a blatant conflict of interest.

Do not presume to impose your short-sighted, risk averse emotional responses on free, rational individuals.  Or you may be harmed in the attempt.

Come and take them.

[ThePrinceofTea]

this civilian admin would not hesitate to kill american children to foster the agenda of it's financial master (gmos, nuke industry, vaccines, fracking, plant banned, growing to sell bodies of babies etc).

if I can't trust you with Arms, it means I can't trust you with anything. as such :

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

as such I defy anyone to come and take mine :

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/starwars/images/6/67/StarDestroyer_negvv.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/500?cb=20071013183240

btw I am or in the control room near the keys entry console or in the bar at the 47 floors near the jacuzzi... good luck to come near... it is on auto pilot (fire at will to any unidentified object).

[MakingMoneyHoney]

Hard cases (boo hoo OREGON bluh bluh bluh bluh) make bad law, precisely because waving the bloody shirt (ZOMG THINK OF THE CHILDRENS) is a logical fallacy.

But you have fun casually (yet self-righteously) relinquishing the freedoms our Founding Fathers fought to enshrine in our Constitution.

Agitating to abandon a longstanding foundational cultural tradition (like RKBA) because of a singular emotionally traumatic event is a very female (and Marxist) reaction.  That's why we didn't let them vote until recently, and why everything has gone to shit since we did.

Wife beating?  Blame the inanimate Thing (booze) and ban alcohol!  Viva the Women's Temperance League!  Prohibition forever!  What could possibly go wrong?

Crazy off-his-meds and/or jihad guy massacre?  Blame the inanimate Thing (gun) and repeal the 2nd Amendment.

Let's just roll over and let a nice, strong tyranny have its way with our ovaries.  At least our precious offspring be Safe.  Better raped in safety than free and dead, right?

No.  No, no, no!

Fuck off to the kitchen and make me a sandwich.  You are not qualified participate in a serious discussion regarding matters of life and death.  Go watch the baby and nurture something.

Let me be clear.  Domesticated, servile, asinine people like you are the exact reason why democracy has failed.  People who don't own property/pay taxes, and have never been eligible for the draft, have no business voting.  It's a blatant conflict of interest.

Do not presume to impose your short-sighted, risk averse emotional responses on free, rational individuals.  Or you may be harmed in the attempt.

I find it funny that the woman I know (myself included) are arguing for us to keep our guns, and the men on this forum are arguing over us losing them, yet you blame women.

I would say blame the men who have gone soft and forgotten why we were allowed the right to own guns in the first place.