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3681  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23 on: September 22, 2022, 11:45:07 PM
Here is the final weigh-in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DomQuc4oK1A

The thing is, Shakur come in at 131.6 lbs, over 1.6 lbs of the weight limit of 130 lbs. Conceicao came in at 129.6 lbs. And he didn't make a second weight to make 130 lbs, so it means he is going to lose the WBC and WBO strap in the scale.

And it also means that after this fight he will definitely go to 135 lbs. So it will be exciting, we have Davis, Garcia, Haney, Kambosos and then Shakur entering the mix.
3682  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [ BOXING POLL ADDED ] The Heavyweight Battle of Britain - FURY vs JOSHUA on: September 22, 2022, 11:25:22 PM
So if we are going to look at it, perhaps they have agreed upon before. So there should be no hindrance this fight if the fight is going to happen. There are dates and venues already, it's just not everything in paper and sign by this two fighters.
Well, yeah there shouldn't be. Since, if you were to believe the headlines at the time they already worked out a split. Obviously, things have happened in the meantime, but I don't think the terms would need to change really. It needs to be in the UK, and they should just split the money. Although, obviously Fury will want more. I'd do a gentleman's agreement, and just go with the same terms they allegedly struck up last time.

Yes, I would like to think that this fight should happen in the UK. But not sure if Fury will like the idea of a 50/50 split now since Joshua doesn't have the belt. But a offer of 60/40 from them is just about right as we have been discussing.

One of the most frustrating things in boxing is the big fights not being made, but from Eddie Hearne's point of view, Joshua's days are numbered as a title challenger, and Fury also will probably be looking at two more fights, and then proper retirement. Whereas, Usyk also probably has similar thoughts. These guys have already had massive success each, and are getting on. So, it makes sense to just cash in, and make the fights against each other. That lines the promoters pockets, while also satisfying the fans.

Coming from 2 big losses, yes Joshua's days are numbered, just one more fight that we have been demanded before, even prior to Fury making a comeback, and that is the fight between Wilder and Joshua. And if this fight is going to be made, and if by chance Joshua won, then maybe he can still fight and cash in.
3683  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: September 22, 2022, 11:07:31 PM
Why did nobody said Wolves?
They've been talked about when the trade happened. Go back a few pages to read the discussion.

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I mean nobody expects them to be champions this year for sure, but they got Gobert and he is a good player and that improved Wolves a lot. It gives KAT to actually be power forward as well which he could be very good for and could cook smaller defenders down there,
I'm not sure about your point here. Why do you expect a Guard or a smaller person to defend him? You know for sure that the game has evolved and even the bigs would go out of the paint to guard. Expect another power forward to be put up against him.

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...with two giants on the floor at the same time, they could end up with a lot more wins compared to last year.
Yes I also think they are a playoff-bound team next season if no serious injuries would hamper the giant duo.

I think the Timberwolves see themselves as top 4 in the west.  The west is rather weak compared to years past.  I can see the Warriors, Suns and Clippers being better but other than that I can't see anyone competing with them if they stay healthy.  I can see them winning 50 games.  Going deep into the playoffs. 

You forget about the reigning MVP in Jokic in Denver. And with a heathy Jamal Murray and Michael Porter Jr. they will be a contender for sure.

And so is the Dallas with Luka, although they lost Jalen Brunson, they are still a good team specially in playoff. This team doesn't choke with Luka around.

Memphis of course with Ja Morant, they and the Warriors seems to be building a rivalry.

And maybe we can see some surprise too with the Lakers, so the West is not that weak, remember that they are the conference defending champion.
3684  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Twitch gambling problem and Sliker issue on: September 21, 2022, 11:26:01 PM
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I don't know if I should be happy about it. Has gambling from trusted casinos become less dangerous? I strongly doubt it.
No but that shouldn't be your focus - the most important part there is "sufficient consumer protection". Twitch is playing it safe and let those licensing agencies do their jobs. Smart move.

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Can anyone clarify if spors betting platforms licensed by Curacao or other countries would still be allowed in their new policy? or is it strictly from US or maybe UK?

If you look at their official blog post:



https://twitter.com/Twitch/status/1572347129192132611

So it's blanket ban on those top tier crypto gambling platform. They have their Curacao licenses, but it doesn't matter.

As of now, I will say that sports betting will be included. But according to them, they will clear out everyone in the next coming days before it take effect on Oct 18.
3685  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: September 21, 2022, 11:05:54 PM
So it seems that that Kawhi is really building up his physique in preparation this season, those huge legs will obviously help him to stay injury free (hopefully).

And as I have said previously, he shouldn't be treated as fragile and be on the minute restriction, well in the first couple of his comeback games, maybe. But as he gets back to the gruelling 82 games he should be at least playing more minutes for the Clippers. They need to maximized their big 3, not preventing them to play and have fun.
3686  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Twitch To Ban Gambling Streaming By October 18th. on: September 21, 2022, 10:50:50 PM
Do you think backlash received from influencers is enough reason for Twitch to ban gambling streaming on their platform?


It's obviously the biggest impact on Twitch that they have decided to ban gambling streaming for good. It has been a hotly contested topic because it is not clear on their ToS regarding gambling. But it's good to hear that they have come up with this one. For sure they will definitely lost millions in revenue and so is the gamblers taking advantage of their platform.

Sooner or later though this influencers will have to find another platform, used to their advantage and make money again. Gambling is a multi billion business and I doubt that it can be stop. Specially the crypto gambling platforms are on the rise. So this is a temporary setback to all gambling influencers.
3687  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: September 21, 2022, 10:33:52 PM
^ Yes, and this is what I've been saying as well, if Kambosos wanted to win, he needs to be extra aggressive, just like in the Lopez fight wherein he was really into the fight early and wanted to show what he got in his US fight. Maybe he was very complacent or under estimate Haney and didn't know how difficult it is to fight these kind of fighters.

So in other words, jump on him in the very first round, rough, put him in the corner, and then throw volumes and maybe one or two will hit on Haney's chin. And he is not known to have a good chin so chances for Kambosos is still good, just one good hit and see how it goes.

Right? I actually expected Kambosos that he will start strong and as the aggressor but we didn't witnessed an agile and aggressive Kambosos. Don't know why he changed his style even though he already know that Haney is more on defense and technicalities to score, the latter is not a KO specialist too that is why I don't really understand what's holding him not to be aggressive the whole match.

It's not that we set a high expectation for him but he didn't do what he had to do at that fight to at least win some rounds. Haney on the other hand may be smiling inside that time because Kambosos is having the back foot and not him even though he's the one who's more on defense.

True, I forgot to include that as well, Haney is not known to be a KO artist and his chin is very much suspected. So Kambosos or at least his corner didn't recognized this obvious flaw in Haney and didn't take advantage of it.

Australians fans are very much disappointed in him I would say, and Haney's face looks fresh after the fight, which means he didn't do any damage while his face is the complete opposite. So I will be expecting George to start very aggressively and should really walk on Haney in the first few rounds to test him.
3688  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: September 21, 2022, 09:42:38 PM
^ Malalaman natin yan this season, critical din kasi ang pagkakaroon ng Lakers ng bagong coach. Sya mag dikta kung paano ang galawan nitong mga veterans kasama na rin ang mga role players. Nakita natin na parang walang ginawa si Vogel last year, sayang last napag champion niya ang Lakers pero parang nawala ang kanyang kamada sa mga players.

Update pa tungkol sa kaso ng owner ng Phoenix:

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Phoenix Suns owner Robert Sarver announced in a statement Wednesday morning that he has started the process to sell his stake in both the Suns and the Phoenix Mercury. This move comes after Sarver was suspended for a year and fined $10 million by the NBA following the completion of an investigation into his inappropriate workplace misconduct.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/suns-mercury-owner-robert-sarver-announces-he-is-starting-process-to-sell-both-franchises/
3689  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing]: Shakur Stevenson vs Robson Conceicao - Sept 23 on: September 21, 2022, 09:23:59 PM
^ Or the sports bookies are correct in putting Stevenson as huge favorite on their platform because it's simply what everyone thinks. Robson is good but they are not on the same level as far as skills goes. It's just a matter on how will this fight in, will there be a ko/tko in this fight or simply Stevenson will put up a show, a clinic in front of his fans and then win easy on judges scorecard. And in the post fight interview, declaring that he wants to go the next division and again look for Tank.
3690  Economy / Speculation / Re: Predicts Bitcoin price by 2025 on: September 21, 2022, 09:10:02 PM
Most likely the price that's what everyone is hoping, around $100k-$180k. I mean we were disappointed last bull run when we thought that we will hit 6 digits. Everyone was bracing on that price when we hit our all time high last November and thinking December will be big.

Nevertheless, this kind of disappointed is what makes the investors stick to bitcoin market for a long time. It's because we know that the next bull run will be huge than the previous one.
3691  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 WINZ.IO 🚀 WELCOME BONUS: 300 FREE SPINS 🎁 $50K MINING ADVENTURE ⛰️ on: September 21, 2022, 01:18:30 PM
Yes, we are all waiting to see winz introducing sports betting most especially now that the league has kicked off with the premiere league in its early season, Winz will generate a lot of football fans to their platform if there are introduced to sports bets. We have a lot of football fans on this forum who are already playing some other games on winz and will want to try out the winz system.

Hey, to all who are interested in sports. Sportsbook is coming really really soon. We are in an extensive test phase now and will start rolling out in phases in the coming weeks. Some of you have already noticed mentions of this around the website, but no actual sportsbook yet. The product is quite new, with good coverage on sports and markets, but UX still needs work. However, we made everyone wait long enough and we rather launch sooner and make improvements on the go. Stay tuned!

Good to hear that sportbooks will be coming soon to your site. I'm also a big fan of your gambling platform, played many times.

No need to rush though, take your time to developed your UI for sportbooks. Because as you can see, majority here are betting on the sports they love, be it football, basketball, tennis and other well known sports around the globe.
3692  Local / Pamilihan / Re: Coins.ph suspended my account without valid reason on: September 21, 2022, 12:01:53 PM
Mas madali talaga hanapin halos lahat sa web app nila compared sa mobile since halos lahat nasa website at hindi ka mahihirapan hanapin yung mga dapat mong pindutin like yung paglipat ng spot to funding. Kahit mismo sa trading side ng Binance, sobrang convenient kapag sa website ka magtrading compared sa mobile application. Pero kung medjo sanay ka na sa mobile application nila, hindi ka na masyado mahihirapan lalo sa pagtransfer ng funds.

Anyways, Tanong ko na lang din about sa Binance, yung account ko kasi parang may nag-aaccess or gustong mag-open kasi paminsan-minsan ako nakakareceive sa email ko ng notification about attempted log-in. May na-experience na rin ba kayong ganto? Natry ko na mag-change password at may 2FA naman ako pero nakakabother lang.

Yes, agree ako dyan. mas madali talaga gamitin pag web browser kaysa sa app, sa totoo lang may app ako pero never ko pa nagamit kasi mas sanay ako sa web mag trade.

Yung tungkol sa sa experience mo regarding may naglolog in sa account mo, hindi kaya delay lang yung dating ng email sayo? incase naman may nag aattemp palagay ko safe naman yan as long hindi mo binibigay ang password details mo, at safe yan palagay ko since nilagyan mo na ng 2fa.

Hindi ko pa naman na experienced tong ganitong issue sa binance ko pero nakakabahala yan. Siguro bantayan mo na lang mabuti ang account mo at katulad ng ginawa mo added security and 2FA at ang password na hindi basta nahuhulaan.

Hindi ko rin na experience ang delay ng email at text notification. Mabilis talaga ang dating nito sa tin.
3693  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing: Haney vs Kambosos II (Undisputed) on: September 21, 2022, 11:38:05 AM
^ Yes, and this is what I've been saying as well, if Kambosos wanted to win, he needs to be extra aggressive, just like in the Lopez fight wherein he was really into the fight early and wanted to show what he got in his US fight. Maybe he was very complacent or under estimate Haney and didn't know how difficult it is to fight these kind of fighters.

So in other words, jump on him in the very first round, rough, put him in the corner, and then throw volumes and maybe one or two will hit on Haney's chin. And he is not known to have a good chin so chances for Kambosos is still good, just one good hit and see how it goes.
3694  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2020 Philippine Basketball Association betting discussion on: September 21, 2022, 10:32:51 AM

Overall, the Commissioners' Cup will start today, and I don't know if I will be excited to watch games because of these "Fair and Balanced" trades that are happening (a bit of sarcasm on it). The joke is on point that it made me laugh though and starting today, I will call Comm. Willie "Puppet" because that's what he really is.

Thanks for reminding, I didn't notice that the Commissioners' Cup will start today, and it's really true as I verified, almost miss betting on the first game. Well, what can you say, PBA is never balanced, the big team owners will always take the edge since other teams are just farm teams.

Right, so I might have to pass with this games in the beginning, just want to see what will happen.

But obviously as you pointed out the league has somewhat very controversial because the teams are not equally as balance as it had been for years. And perhaps this is one reason why the PBA is losing so much in terms of viewership as compare to it's previous years wherein everyone was glued to their television. Now it's more of people watching because of the "ending" bet.  Grin
3695  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 21, 2022, 09:49:07 AM
^ It's already getting hype by both camps, as Zayani said that he wouldn't hold in this exhibition fight and Manny says the same. If that is the case then we might see a full blown fight.

And regarding Canelo, he responded to David Benavidez dad, as we all know David's father said that his son will beat Canelo.

But Canelo doesn't want to give David the fight because he hasn't accomplished any.

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“I see his dad talking a lot of sh!t,” Alvarez said. “Look what he’s accomplished – nothing. [He beat] one, single champion, Anthony Dirrell. Please, don’t disrespect [me]. Please, guys.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/canelo-i-see-benavidezs-dad-talking-lot-sht-look-what-hes-accomplished-nothing--169178
3696  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: September 20, 2022, 11:06:37 PM
Biggest news in the NBA today… LeBron has finally decided to go bald. No more crazy headband and hair plugs. I think this can only be a good thing for him. I’m expecting Bald Bron to go hard this year, as his championship window is rapidly closing. I’m glad his hairline won’t be a distraction any more. It seemed like that was taking up more of his time than it should have been.

Lol, but yes, that hairline though, it become a internet meme years ago and yeah, I would say that somewhat it become a distraction. So him going bald might signify that he will go hard for this year to forget last season's performance by the Lakers.

As for Kawhi, he could be just ready as anyone and I'm thinking that he can comeback like KD. As if he didn't go to their worst injuries. And I don't know about this load management that the coaches are doing, if players wanted to play they let them.
3697  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Casino and prisons on: September 20, 2022, 10:50:21 PM
But it's already have been shut down for decades now and no casinos have been running on any prison in the US. And it you look at it, that was the time wherein casinos are controlled by the mob and I would say that they have much influence in the gambling industry in that era that prison warden could have been "bribe" to let prisoners gamble. And who knows, maybe there is a mafia boss incarcerated in that prison and so he just wanted to have some fun inside.  Smiley
3698  Local / Pamilihan / Re: NBA discussion, betting and etc. on: September 20, 2022, 10:11:58 PM
^^ Pwedeng nakita na to ng Wizards, although maganda naman talaga ang pinakita ni Westbrook sa kanila at nadala sila sa playoff. Pero siguro nanawagan ang Lakers that time na gusto nilang kunin sa kanila si Westbrook, kaya napag isip isip sila na magandang dahilan ito pa ma labas ang malaking kontrata ni Westbrook sa kanila kapalit ng ilang players ng Lakers. Ngayon sa Lakers na ang problema at hanggang ngayon at problema parin sa kanila hehehe. Dahil nga wala talagang gustong kumuha ng Westbrook dahil yan ang dahilan. Pero malalaman natin pag nagsimula na ang season hanggang kalagitnaan nito. Tiyak may mga pieces parin na iiikot ang mga teams para makuha nila ang perfect team chemistry nila. Katulad ng ginawa ng Boston last year na nagresulta naman ng maganda sa kanila. So hayaan muna nating maglaro si Westbrook sa Lakers.

Oo, possible nga talaga na na-predict nila ito ng mas maaga dahil nga bumaba na ang average PPG ni Westbrook nung napunta na sya sa Washington Wizards at yung trade na yun ay di hamak na mas maganda at pabor sa kanila dahil nga may first round pick pa itong kasama at si Kuza narin kasama ang dalawa pang players ng Lakers.

Pero maaga pa kabayan para masabi talaga natin na wala na ngang pag-asa si Westbrook. Isang di maayos na season lang yun kompara sa mga nagawa ni Westbrook, ngayon ay wala nang rason na nag-aadjust pa dahil pangalawa na ito at marami-rami na din syang laro na natapos kasama ang ibang players ng Lakers.

Kaya kaabang abang si Westbrook ulit sa Lakers this coming season, and then balik is Dennis Schroder sa kanila. So adjustment na naman at baka 6th man ang dating ni Westbrook at hayaan si Schroder as PG. Baka may gusto ni Westbrook talaga ang umatake. Tapos nadyan na rin si Pat Beverly kaya tingan natin ang laro nila ngayon, although is Pat naman eh more as a defender pero yung intensity ng dalawa pag naglaro ng sabay sa court, tyak maganda to hehehehe.

Hindi ko pa nasisilip yung line up ng Lakers para sa parating na season pero kung tama ang pagkakaalala ko ang pwedeng maging solid 5 ng Lakers eh si Davis,LeBron,Westbrook,Beverly at Schroder. Hindi na masama yan kung yung maggiging role palayers eh kayang mapanatili yung intensity habang nagpapahinga kung sinoman sa kanila.

Problema lang eh, hindi na mga bata ang mga yan at yung injuries nila maaaring makasama kung masyado silang matagal sa loob ng court, kailagan nila ng maayos na pahinga.

Tama ba hanggang all-star game pa naman yung last na pwedeng magtrade db, malamang marami pang magbabago sa lineup or kung hindi man sa lineup eh sa sistema nila baka ssipatin muna ng bagong coach kung paano huhulmahin ang buong squad nya.

Malakas na yang starting five na yan, pero baka sa tingin ko magiging 6th man either is Bev or Westbrook. Para pag pasok ng kahit sino sa kanila, ganun padin ang intensity ng buong squad.

Si Lebron malakas pa naman kahit sa edad nya, kaya pa nyan mag 30+ minutes per game. Si Davis ang kabahan ang Lakers fan kasi nga prone to injury.

Sa trade naman eh, marami naman din benefits kung hanggang all star ang palitan ng player. Tingnan mo nangyari sa Boston last season, up to the last minute nag trade sila hanggang makuha ang tamang chemistry.
3699  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: [Boxing] Fernando Martinez vs Jerwin Ancajas rematch - Oct.8 on: September 19, 2022, 11:57:29 PM
Ancajas seems doesn't have a medical condition but just struggling to reach the required weight as maybe he is really getting bulky and bigger for his current division. That's why a good nutritionist is necessary and they hired a new one as part of the team that will condition Ancajas until the day of the fight.

I think he has nutritionist in his side if I'm not mistaken, but there could be some lapses, maybe in the training or after the weigh in because it wasn't enough for Ancajas to fully restore his body to prime in his fight night. And usually if a boxer gets cramp along the fight, it means he lacks fluid and this might be the case for Jerwin and that's why his performance was lacking, as if it was a different version of him that we are watching. But in can be corrected though, and that is the good thing for him, make the weight and then recover and replenish his body and be 100% against Martinez. Get his belt back, and if in the next fight, he can't make that weight anymore, go to the next and have another goal of winning a belt for his Filipino fans.

Yes, he has. It was on the news I think last month.

They hired a new nutritionist as they want to focus on Ancajas' diet compare to what the camp did which they overtrained Ancajas just to reach the required weight. It's like they will balance his training regime and won't focus more on physical activities but rather on controlling what he eats.

Ok, I got the name,  Bianca Estrella. She should be up par with the job of over seeing everything that Jerwin is putting in his mouth. Not just to be able to control his weight, but the proper combination of vitamins and mineral and nutrients so that he will be in his optimum in this fight.

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"Kinuha namin ang nutritionist na si Bianca Estrella at nag-tap din kami ng taga PSC (Philippine Sports Commission) bilang consultant ni Jerwin sa nutrition," the coach told ABS-CBN News.

https://news.abs-cbn.com/sports/08/17/22/boxing-what-adjustments-ancajas-is-making-for-next-bout

With that relax and balanced training, Ancajas should be 100% conditioned on the day of the fight.

Yes, hopefully, we will expect a 100% conditioned Jerwin in the rematch, again, no more excuses or what not. They have narrow it down but went wrong during the first fight. So it's just a matter of careful planning and adjustment. He was the clear favorite, and I think he will still be slight the betting favorite in the rematch. He should be around his fighting weight by now, it's just 3 weeks and probably getting as much as sparring as they can.
3700  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: 2023 NBA Season on: September 19, 2022, 11:24:27 PM
This is the first I've heard of this potential trade and I'm sure it's just clickbait, but 'The Sportest' published an article this morning titled, Chris Paul With The Lakers Is ALMOST Set And Done:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nba/chris-paul-with-the-lakers-is-almost-set-and-done-nba-trade-rumors/vi-AA11Zi9n

I'm sure this is nonsense, but would be cool.  I don't think the Lakers have any pieces the Suns want, so I'm not holding my breath.

Yes, just for click-bait, but Paul could have been a Laker years ago and played with Kobe Bryant (RIP) if not for David Stern (RIP) stopping it, or at what the media claims it to be.

https://www.sportingnews.com/ca/nba/news/this-date-in-nba-history-dec-8-commissioner-david-stern-vetoes-chris-pauls-trade-to-the-los-angeles-lakers/s3zzl4imi12c1uhc5a85va9sw

In other news, it looks like Kevin Love is finally going to take a buyout and move on from the Cavs.  They're saying Golden State or New Jersey are potential landing spots.  I think him joining the Warriors would really help fill the hole left in Draymond's 3 point shooting troubles.  

What happen to Kevin wanting to play in Portland, his hometown with Dame? I guess he will be a good fit with the Nets? They need one good big man, to man the middle and the good thing is that Love can also shoot the 3's. I doubt the Warriors can afford him without involving key pieces of their rotation, so it will be a bad idea for them.
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