Here's an example of using ALT coin trading, buy low, sell high. Here's a best case example from BTC-e Lets start with $200 put into LTC, then swap BTC/LTC/BTC/LTC/BTC riding the roller coaster | ___Trade___ | ___Date___ | ___Price___ | ___Stake___ | | | BTC/USD | | Jan 15 | | 167.95 USD | | 1.1909 BTC | | | LTC/mBTC | | Jan 23 | | 6.08 mBTC | | 195.87 LTC | | | BTC/LTC | | Jan 31 | | 113.12 LTC | | 1.7315 BTC | | | LTC/mBTC | | May 5 | | 5.85 mBTC | | 295.98 LTC | | | BTC/LTC | | Jun 18 | | 78.31 LTC | | 3.7796 BTC |
On Jan 15th, that $200 bought you 1.1909 BTC, yet at the end of the trading cycle above you ended up with 3.7796 BTC. Of course this assumes an amazing level of clairvoyance on when to jump from BTC to LTC and back. ref1 (LTC/BTC @ BTC-e): http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/pair/ltc/btc/btc-e/6-monthsref2 (LTC/USD @ BTC-e): http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/pair/ltc/usd/btc-e/6-monthsref3 (BTC/USD @ BTC-e): http://www.cryptocoincharts.info/pair/btc/usd/btc-e/6-monthsEDIT: Missed a trade opportunity originally, now added it back in. So what did you post here? A theoretical profit example? Do you think there is anyone who did not know that buying and selling at different times will bring you a fortune? I dont see what you wanted to show with your post. When you would have posted your reallife trading example, ok. When you would have written why you decided to buy and sell, what the indicators said, ok. That would be helpful. But simply showing that prices go up and down and that you could exploit that theoretically? If we would know where the price will go then we would be rich alltogether. We dont know. And thats why its very risky. On top comes the exchange fees that work against you... and and and. |
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What's my best option to get a piece of this money pie?   dont ask people to do your work for you. go through the thread and do it yourself. I am but I've only made it to page 137 so far  learn to use your head. the title says it was last updated june 1, so go find the point in the thread where the posts are made later than june 1st, and read from there. Maybe it would make sense to create a new thread with the old data and the new one. Im not sure what happened to the original Poster but if this thread leads more to confusion than to a learning experience then something should be changed. Will OP come back? |
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Start with 2MB next year, double the block size every 2 years
I hardly doubt that that would be enough. Even though the number would only be 4 times less, and in 20 years we would have 2GB blocks. We would only have 6 (in practice; theoretical is 14) transactions per second until 2018. I think that we might need more. This is not a thread about discussing Moore's law, or other similar ones. Let us not drift away too much. The point is that Bitcoin does not scale well to process all transactions natively. It's simply a waste of resources to process all microtransactions on the blockchain. Microtransactions < $ 1 simply do not need the same level of security as bigger transactions. They should move off-chain/side-chain/second-layer. The max_blocksize should be increased conservatively to ensure that decentralization is not hurt, because decentralization gives Bitcoin value. Solutions for microtransactions are being developed right now. Hearn's and Gavin's plan is simply not well thought out and outright dangerous for the future of Bitcoin as a decentralized currency. Relying on Moore's / Nielson's "law" is simply linear extrapolation of past trends (based on a very limited timespan), without any evidence that these past trends can be sustained in future. There are natural boundaries for e.g. further miniaturization, so betting on these trends for another 20 years is unwise. ya.ya.yo! Even though i dont like the way gaving and hearn handling things with something like an extortion, the solution is most probably most near to what will happen in the future. Moores law is the most exact thing we can guess that it will develop. Saying that... if its another way at the end then nothing prevents us from changing the protocol again and adjusting to the actual needs then. |
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Well.....yes, Nxt Asset Exchange is kind of biased towards using NXT as its default currency, but with a bit of imagination you should be able to figure out a method to pay out Nxt-based dividends in BTC or anything else you can think of. Thinking out loud: Multigateway has possibilities, maybe Shapeshift or Coinomatgive you a lot of possibilities for automating NXT<>whatever conversion. The only real issue I can see with paying out dividends in BTC (or whatever) is that the asset issuer will need to have BTC/whatever addresses of the asset holders to make a dividend payout. This could make buying into the asset slightly more complex, ie the asset buyer will have to send a BTC/whatever address to the issuer (via Nxt messaging  ) in order to recieve dividend payouts. For the rest: yeah, shouldn't be a problem if you can find someone to code up an automated payout process. If you really want to do this......ask on the NXTforum: https://nxtforum.org/asset-exchange-general/Having said all that, NXT liquidity is reasonable right now, with 24 hour trading round the $50,000 mark, so being paid out in NXT isn't all that bad... Thanks for answering. Yes, i think it would not be good having to ask for a bitcoin address. NXT would then have the advantage of allowing trades of shares but the disadvantage of having to handle new owners manually. It would make paying out divs a bit easier than having to handle direct shares only. Hm... liquidity is high enough you say? Ill see how the issuer sees it. Though... its not bitcoin anymore. :/ When issueing a security on nxt marketplace, is it true that the issuer has to pay all dividends in nxt? That sounds like a problem since if an issuer made a couple thousands of profit in USD, then he would have to exchange it to a cryptocurrency in order to pay out divs. If he would be able to use bitcoin then he would have no trouble. He could turn the value into bitcoins pretty fast. Though with nxt i guess the orderbooks and trades arent so big that it wouldnt mean to either wait a long time until you exchanged or to lose some of your fiat when exchanging.
Cant you simply pay out divs in btc?
you can pay dividends as an asset token. For example mgwBTC which can be withdrawn for BTC automatically. Are these tokens backed up for sure? The backup cant be proven, right? So lets say the issuer buys bitcoins at his exchange, then pays those coins to mgwbtc and gets token for it. Then the issuer can spread them as dividends and the shareholders then can get bitcoins for sure? Or is there a risk the token owner runs with the bitcoins? That would not make sense using them otherwise. |
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When issueing a security on nxt marketplace, is it true that the issuer has to pay all dividends in nxt? That sounds like a problem since if an issuer made a couple thousands of profit in USD, then he would have to exchange it to a cryptocurrency in order to pay out divs. If he would be able to use bitcoin then he would have no trouble. He could turn the value into bitcoins pretty fast. Though with nxt i guess the orderbooks and trades arent so big that it wouldnt mean to either wait a long time until you exchanged or to lose some of your fiat when exchanging.
Cant you simply pay out divs in btc?
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ndnhc... can you say when exactly the postcount is sat back for the next week? Tuesday on which time and timezone? Last time the postcount wasnt zeroed for a longer time after it. It would be better if the postcount could be zeroed out instantly when you did the snapshot.
Can you do this?
Hi, There are some common misunderstandings here. The post count is given only for your reference. There is no real need to update it right now, before the escrow payment is released. If I change it now, there is a lot of self-referencing involved, which will break down the spreadsheet. When I update it does not matter, be it rank, or post count. Simply, 1. If your post was made before your posts were counted, it will belong to this week. 2. If your post was made after, it will be counted from next week. I take the final post count of the previous week as the starting post count for the next week. So, whenever I do it, all posts are taken into account.In your case, for example, the final post count was 5301 for this week. So, the posts from 5186 to 5301 was counted for this week, while all posts from 5301 will count towards next week. That is, if I reset it now (5302 atm), it will show 1 post not 0. Hope I clarified.  Same with rank level, whether I update it tomorrow or on Monday, it makes no difference (unless post count and activity is equal ie. er.. activity is not fully used) Thanks ndnhc Ah, i see. So i have to check the post counts tab. When there is the new end post number then i know you already counted the posts and all further posts go to the next week. First time i got 100 posts. Rating A1 first time too. Too bad arallmus hold his winning streak. |
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ndnhc... can you say when exactly the postcount is sat back for the next week? Tuesday on which time and timezone? Last time the postcount wasnt zeroed for a longer time after it. It would be better if the postcount could be zeroed out instantly when you did the snapshot.
Can you do this?
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How about not forking Bitcoin at all since this is not an imminent issue. IF transaction numbers per block keep increasing at the rapid speed they have been recently it will take 2 years to start hitting 1 mb per block. No reason to implement a fork that will cause people to lose Bitcoins until it is absolutely necessary, keep the code on the side until then. Why is there so much haste to make a change that isn't needed for 2 years  The majority of Bitcoin developers agree with this statement, the developer of XT decided to make his own version of Bitcoin so he could control Bitcoin's code without needing consent from anyone else. http://cointelegraph.com/news/114426/andresen-will-shift-efforts-to-bitcoin-fork-if-no-consensus-reached-on-block-sizeExactly... your last paragraph is what i dont get in this whole discussion. Why are bitcoiners so fast in giving away "their" cryptocurrency to a private company? Its interesting to see but somehow strange when you know the libertarian ideas of bitcoin in the beginning. |
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Einsatz ist/war > 5BTC
Alles klar, dank dir! Mit Sicherheit.
Je mehr der Bot einsetzen kann, desto mehr springt auch bei raus ...
In der Theorie aufjedenfall bis zur kritischen Masse "x" pro Coin. Wo liegt die kritische Masse in etwa als Gesamteinsatz über alle Coins und Module usw verteilt? Klar sind die Orderbücher nicht so dick, bzw das Handelsvolumen. Aber wenn man in jedem Bereich mitspielt und alle Strategien nutzen will die Vaagar anbietet, wo etwa ist der maximale Einsatz bei dem man nur noch Coins sinnlos rumliegen hätte wenn man drüber geht. |
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Probably he means that the zone was tested already once. It didnt break it but it might be that its tested again now and broken this time. Im not sure how certain such scenario would be though. Maybe chessnut should explain himself. To me it looks more like the log trend is still holding! just a slight overthrow.
Yes of coarse it is, but it is important to take note that it has punctured it because of the way it is behaving below at this point in time. Chessmut this is joke? We are under longterm uptrend line. If we go up the line, we can consider return to uptrend but now we are still under line... |
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Wieso regst du dich denn jetzt eigentlich auf? Es ist doch seine Sache wie er den Bot vermarktet. Und wenn er den Bot nicht verschlüsselt dann ist das eben für jemanden, der den Code versteht und der seine eigene Strategie einbauen will, eben eine gute Sache. Warum du glaubst jetzt Rechtfertigungen für etwas zu geben das nie in Frage gestellt wurde sehe ich nicht. Bleib mal locker... Und dein Blog... ich weiß nicht wie lange du schon im Internet Marketing Bereich unterwegs bist. Aber mit deiner "Ich verdiene das"-Mentalität wirst du da nicht weit kommen. Das Internet ist nun mal ein Raum in dem man praktisch alles kostenlos bekommen kann. Du kannst dich nicht darüber beschweren dass es so funktioniert. Wenn dein Geschäftsmodell nicht passt dann musst du vielleicht andere Wege der Vermarktung finden. Den Wert deines Blogs bestimmt eben immer noch der freie Markt. Diesen mit Gesetzen, wie dem bescheuerten Leistungsschutzrecht, manipulieren zu wollen ist einfach rückschrittig. Dass die Verlage gedacht haben das könnte funktionieren zeigt nur in welcher Welt sie leben. Wenn du deinen Blog kostenpflichtig machen würdest dann würde halt einfach niemand dort lesen, es gibt genug andere Quellen. Und da hast du dann offenbar auch den Wert, wie ihn der freie Markt bestimmt. Ist halt so wenn es Infos auch kostenlos gibt. Dann ist das eben der Preis. Ich weiß nicht wieso du dich darüber aufregst wie die Welt nun mal ist. Tut mir leid wenn ich jetzt ausgeschweift bin. Aber dieses Copyrightgeschwafel geht mir auf den Keks. Warum unterhalten wir uns jetzt über "code" verschlüsselt oder nicht? Das tut in meinen Augen nichts zu Sache. Wenn er den Code verschlüsselt, heißt das soviel wie "das ist mein geistiges Eigentum, da hast du nicht dran zu fuschen" Ist in meinen Augen mehr als legitim. Immerhin garantiert das auch, das der Code das macht, was er soll. Ich arbeite ja auch nicht 10 Stunden dafür, das sich irgend ein Hans&Franz den Code einverleibt und später sagt, es wäre seine Idee gewesen. Oder besser noch, er ändert den Code und meint dann er könnte dafür auch noch Support bekommen wenn dieser nicht mehr so arbeitet wie gedacht. Wenn der Programmierer entscheidet, seinen Code nicht zu verschlüsseln, gut. Wenn unverschlüsselt, auch gut. Wenn jedoch jemand diese Verschlüsselung bricht, ist dieser in meinen Augen ein "Schmarotzer". Am besten er macht auch noch Geld damit, wenn ich das mal raus bekomme, dass jemand mit meiner Arbeit, ohne mein wissen, Geld verdient, geht die Sache aber so was von schnell zum Anwalt. Ich sehe es ja selber an meinem Blog. Da holen sich täglich 1000 Leute die Infos ab. Aber bisher nur 1 Spende von gerade mal 10 cent. in BTC... jaha... Danköö. Da freue ich mich doch schon etwas, wenn die Leute auch etwas über meine Seite kaufen. Sind zwar auch nur cent beträge die man da als Provision bekommt, aber der User verliert dadurch nichts. Um das abzurunden. Ich finde den Preis gerechtfertigt. Immerhin steht da Überlegung hinter, eine Idee, eine Umsetzung etc. Wem das ganze, der Preis nicht wert ist. Hände weg, selber programmieren. Aber ich bin auch dafür das dass ganze exklusiv bleibt... Wenn jetzt 100 Leute mit dem Bot rum machen... könnte es ggf. Nachteile für alle haben? Und nun nochmal zurück zu meinen eigentlichen Fragen: - Welche Coins sollte ich Traden  - Welche config, ist die sinnvollste. Dynamic Rebalance auch auf true? - Gibt es das Theme von whyte als Open Source? Wann kommt es raus? |
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We humans have the most developed brain & organs. Why do we need to kill animals just to eat We breed them so that we can eat them. What is the difference between other animals and us who eat meat? We have abundant source of natural resources to fulfill our needs.
I knew this will come up. Though let me say it this way. When you show me how the cows stop eating away the living lifeform grass then i might consider stopping eating the cows. Truth is that every human only survives when it devours other life. Only because some humans think they are better because they only devour life that doesnt have a face, doesnt make this truth less valid. And claiming that humans can chose to only eat their "smallest brothers and sisters", what kind of attitude is that? We arent made for vegetarian only nutrition. Our organs show this. Of course one might chose a diet of only vegetarian source, though thats up to him. Others might not want this because of the risks and because its hypocritical to claim that one is a better human when he only eats the life that cant fight back at all. Damn, i knew this would turn out to be this discussion again. But truth is and remains... humans only survive when devouring other life. Blame god or whatever, but its the truth. And humans have to deal with it. I never said anything about eating brothers and sisters. The point is if you think that humans have been made like that, and that is the course of the nature, then we should follow the course of the nature in a complete manner. Everyone should hunt and then eat, like other animals do. Truth is we humans have become very selfish. We always chose what is the best for us, even if that is a problem for others. Im not sure if i can follow you on that. Why should be hunt ourself. Its legit that we have a society where specialized persons to tasks they are specialized in. That improves the overall performance of the society. Still our bodies dont change only because we start to eat in a way that is different from what our bodies need. I brought brothers and sister into the conversation because if you consider animals as such then plants are them too. Only smaller ones. Why should we chose to eat a way that we are not made for? Of course we NEED to choise what is good and best for us in this case. And we cant avoid that. Why should we decide that the problem of a plant, that we kill by eating, is no problem, but the problem of a cow that we kill, so that we can eat her, is a problem? We dont need to speak about their lives. That leaves room open for optimizations. Cool buddy You won't stop eating animals and I won't stop eating plants. So just relax and live and let leave. Peace I agree. You probably know as well as iam that this is a topic where its impossible to convince the other side. Maybe some day mankind will develop a different way of living but so far we are bound to the laws of nature. Its not the worst thin so far. |
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Ich habe auch keinen Grund zur Klage bis auf den aktuellen 24h Profit  Da fehlt das Startdatum zum Total Profit.  Ich frage mich ob der Bot nicht allein schon aus dem Code heraus es wert ist ihn zu kaufen. Der Code ist doch nicht verschlüsselt und in php geschrieben oder? Der Bot läuft seit dem 01.03. Na das klingt doch auch gut. ....................................Und 150€... ich sag mal so... der Autor hat garantiert mehr als 15 Stunden daran gearbeitet. Und das wären 10€ Stundenlohn. Wer etwas .............................................
Der Autor hat den Bot/Code ja auch nicht nur 1 mal verkauft, sondern 20,30 oder 40 mal. Somit steigt der Stundelohn wieder ein bisschen. Das stimmt. Ich meinte ja auch nicht dass es für den Autor mehr wert ist sondern dass der Code für jemanden, der schauen will wie eine Strategie umgesetzt wurde und der den Code versteht, mehr wert ist als das. Weil er, um das selbe zu erreichen, sicher mehr Zeit aufwenden müsste. Aber so könnte er einfach den Bot kaufen und ihn sich auf seine Wünsche anpassen. Für den Preis wäre das nicht schlecht. So meinte ich das. |
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This could be a good opportunity for someone to arbitrage by having me enroll in a non scam/spam campaign of their choice with their btc address and they would end up profiting assuming the company does not end up running away with free advertising. Oh, are we allowed to do this? Are you willing to sign up for bit-x again, or dadice? If so, i bid 0.15 BTC. I wouldn't accept bit-x for the level of spam that they produce and I wouldn't accept dadice because they are likely a scam site. I would however accept pretty much any other current signature campaign (as long as it is not advertising a scam) I am going to reject your bid of .15 because I wouldn't be willing to wear the signature of either of the campaigns you suggested, however if you wish to bid again then I would accept it after you have read which campaigns I would not be willing to participate in. Wouldnt it be easier then to apply yourself? I mean you dont safe work by letting others arbitrage you. You would need to auction each month, deal with buyers and the thread and then you would get probably way less than what you could get. Applying to a campaign would be less work then. So i think it will be a unique business's signature that you will wear at the end. |
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I checked all three scam accusation threads since i want to check out whats up with stakeminers.com.
So no one was convinced yet that cyberpinoy is a scammer. No red trust was given.
The accusations... i dont know. Its not cool when transparency is claimed but at the end there are no transparent payments going in, because exchange.
Then a business on the philipines? Sounds like it will be hard to sue. Or even hard to check if the business is legit. This leroy fodor ID looks like its stolen from a bum. And its easy to register a domain for a wrong name. Getting a phone number is easy too without risking anonymity. So it wonder if someone went there and checked out things correctly.
And the questions from a sockpuppet or friend. I admit its a tactic often used by scammers though its only a free advertising tactic.
They are only in the business since march of this year, so its hard to say how things will develop.
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Oh, i randomly got an idea. How about changing rules so that the maximum paid posts rule is dropped for users that have a post quality above B? NO, of course i only ask out of ulteriour motives. I think it might be worth it. It would be like having an additional signature campaign, though only with quality posts. And for the same price that the normal campaign pays to non quality posts too. So if someone posts too much and drops lower than an A-rating, then he will get punished. This will ensure that only quality is posted. Edit: Another thing i think would be good is to add an estimate about posts that wont will be counted. I guess the counting of posts, that are too short or in a thread/subforum, so that they doesnt count, is done automatically. Having that number would be helpful sometimes. I know though theres no reward for you in it. |
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Hi! I recently created a thread asking for the best methods of gaining free Bitcoin. Most popular results:- Signature Campaign (High Paying)
- Faucets (Low Paying)
- Trading (Variable)
Now, I'm asking a different question. What are your best methods of growing Bitcoin. Only refer to safe investments!Thanks You can always invest with Bitcoin. Over 300 days running investment fund and keep going strong. Over $17mil payout so far. No, surely not. Why do you promote such a clear ponzi. Dont you value your neutral trust? I cant believe that you believe that this is legit. You should stop trying to catch noobs in this. @noobs You will lose your investment 100%. |
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You are the only dice site that no auto-bet feature.  And probably the only one that doesn't advertise, and one of the few to allow players to have themselves banned from betting. You'll never see us posting here encouraging anyone to bet. Those "look how much this guy just won, see how easy it is, you should try it too!" posts made by other sites make me feel ill. It isn't easy to beat the house edge, and it isn't "easy money". Pretending that it is feels bad to me. For similar reasons we don't offer an auto-bet feature so that delusional players can run their "system" while they sleep... A big thing that draws ME into the site goes even further: you're (Dooglus) a very transparent person. I remember the day when you left an encrypted USB drive in a hotel room or something, and moved all the coins to a new wallet anyways (even though wallet passwords are still seen as uncrackable when using a safe password). You could have just as easily kept quiet about that and claimed it was an "optimization" decision. These things go a long way with me, and help show a lot of accountability and trustworthiness. I trust JD too, and it my clams keep on growing! I guess CLAMS probably have a limited shelf life, but at the moment the price is holding up and the market seems good. What do you mean they have a limited life? Do you think that the slightest sign of a big sale could crash the price because everyone thinks they dont have a real value? You dont think there value is stable enough to survive? The value depends mainly of demand from Just Dice players. So practical... if you would like to spread your investment portfolio and clams on jd are part of it, what the percentage of investment that you would put into clams? I see it the same way like you. Just dice is the value backing clams. When dooglus claims he has to kill just dice again then clams most probably will be worth 10% instantly. So at the moment i try to check out the risk of investing someting in clams. |
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Thank you for the hints about where to look at in order to guess where the prices will move to. I definitely will check things out and will see what chances i have to earn with it constantly.
Also if you don't have already, get an account at https://www.tradingview.comThey have a free basic account and paid versions have extended capabilities and features. I already have one. And yes tradingview is great. Even though i think their implementation of elliot waves are not standard. But the amount of value they offer for free is great. Especially the "ideas" that are shared there. Very valuable. And way better than bitcoinwisdom. I dont know why so many like that website, they could get way more on tradingview. |
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Ich habe auch keinen Grund zur Klage bis auf den aktuellen 24h Profit Da fehlt das Startdatum zum Total Profit. Ich frage mich ob der Bot nicht allein schon aus dem Code heraus es wert ist ihn zu kaufen. Der Code ist doch nicht verschlüsselt und in php geschrieben oder? Nein er ist nicht "verschlüsselt". Bitte sagt obfuscated, ein Code ist zu 99% nicht verschlüsselt, es sei denn du hast Code, der Code verarbeitet, eine RunPE, aber dazu ist PHP zu " schwach". Ja er ist in PHP geschrieben. Ob der Code 150€ an Wert hat steht auf einem anderen Blatt geschrieben. Obfuscated... möglicherweise verstehe ich diese Techniken falsch aber normal ist es doch so dass man mit dem php code nichts anfangen kann wenn der mit zend, oder was es da gibt, "obfuscated" wurde. Und das ist doch im Endeffekt eine Verschlüsselung die dazu dienen soll dass man den Code nicht sieht. Es ist doch nicht nur ein Umschreiben in Maschinensprache, bzw etwas schnellerem als php selbst. Es geht ja nicht nur um Geschwindigkeit sondern hauptsächlich darum dass der Code geheim bleibt. Und für einen Programmierer, der vielleicht selbst mal was an dem Bot ändern will, ist es sicherlich interessant wie manche Programmierprobleme gelöst wurden. Und 150€... ich sag mal so... der Autor hat garantiert mehr als 15 Stunden daran gearbeitet. Und das wären 10€ Stundenlohn. Wer etwas mit dem Code anfangen kann, zB weil er eine eigene Strategie implementieren will, oder einen anderen Exchange nutzen, für den wäre es auf jeden Fall wert den Bot zu kaufen. Also er ist nicht obfuscated, ja? |
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