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3701  Economy / Economics / Re: Issuing loans in Bitcoin, how we could do it on: September 26, 2019, 02:55:44 PM
@zikzag

I disagree with almost everything you say here.
 
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...the main chip bitkonka like most cryptocurrencies is anonymity...

I suppose first there is a language problem, bitkonda=Bitcoin? What the anonymity has to do here? Yes, Bitcoin is pseudo-anonymous, then what?  I could use potatoes as currency, it's untraceable, it doesn't mean I will lend money (potatoes) to someone I don't know. There are legal papers etc (it could be a smart contract btw), anyone mentally stable won't lend money to someone unknow in the street.


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I think that Bitcoin was created not for loans

Why not? Definition of "currency":  medium of exchange, unit of account,  store of value. Bitcoin has these 3 functions all in one. It could be the potatoes too!

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...The second reason for the instability of the cryptocurrency market...
The dollar isn't stable, it changes every day.

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...This is one of the main reasons why it has not yet been implemented...
An example below, there are a few others
https://blockfi.com/
3702  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Vaccin, obligations légales et nationalisation on: September 26, 2019, 09:44:41 AM
C'est pas completement faux. Ca depend des maladies, dans le cas de la rougeole oui il faudrait 90%-95%.
Le seuil d'immunité de la variole par exemple est de 80%, pourtant la maladie est éradiquée. Pareil pour la polio et la diphterie qui ont été éliminées

http://www.infectiologie.com/UserFiles/File/medias/diaporamas/CEMI/2015/2015-CEMI-LEVY-BRUHL.pdf

Après, vaccin ou pas, je respecte ceux qui choississent de se faire vacciner, mais en échange faut aussi accepter l'inverse. C'est pas forcement pour des raisons complotistes ou je ne sais quoi. Ca peut etre religieux ou autre
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Le ratio cout/efficacité croit de manière exponentielle dans
la phase ultime tant que l’éradication n’est pas atteinte
• Les montants dépensés sur une seule maladie sont
totalement disproportionnés au regard des priorités réelles
• Le ratio cout/efficacité dans l’hypothèse de l’atteinte de
l’éradication tend vers 0 !
3703  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Adoption massive de la crypto en France on: September 25, 2019, 08:58:40 PM
(https://easy2play.fr/references/) mais bon. Dommage qu'il n'y ait pas genre Auchan, EDF, ect. c'est ca que je veux moi, payer mes courses, mon electricité et autre en BTC

Franchement t'es dur. C'est une grosse avancée.
Tu peux déjà

- acheter tes articles de sport
- produits de beauté
- réparer tes voitures
- acheter tes pneus de bagnole
- te fringuer
- acheter tes objets électroniques/électroménager

via ces enseignes.



Pour bitpay, je ne sais pas. Je pense qu'ils attendent effectivement avant de créditer le vendeur. Mais en tant qu'acheteur c'est transparent.
Après ça reste de la vpc, donc tu ne sais pas combien de temps ça prend réellement.

C'est pour ca que je disais, c'est quand même un pas vers l'avant pour l'utilisateur. En fait je m'attendais plutôt à des enseignes qu'ont utilisent régulierement. Je sais pas, genre supermarché,ect. On achete pas des meubles à conforama tout les mois. encore heureux, vu les meubles de merde qu'ils vendent. D'ailleurs en passant, c'est les vendeurs qui paieront les frais ou l'acheteur? (je parle pas de frais de transactions hein)

Par contre, j'avais remarqué quelque chose, si tu regarde les enseignes, tu remarques que c'est les meme quand tu visites un site de cheque cadeaux pour voir ou il est accepté, ou le programme gift cards des societaires de la MAAF.
Ce qui me fait penser que le nombre de magasins n'augmentera pas.

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Mais la validation d’un paiement en bitcoin n’est pas instantanée. Elle peut prendre plusieurs heures. « En effet, reconnaît Stéphane Djiane, c’est pourquoi nous garantissons le paiement au commerçant. Nous faisons appel à des sociétés spécialisées dans l’achat et la vente de bitcoin ce qui permet de sécuriser l’acte d’achat. » Les transactions ne sont dès lors pas gratuites. « Il n’y a pas de frais pour l’enseigne », plaide Stéphane Djiane. L’acheteur doit donc payer un pourcentage variable, entre 1 et 3% selon le montant de la transaction.

Toujours pret à payer plus cher?
3704  Local / Hors-sujet / Re: Vaccin, obligations légales et nationalisation on: September 25, 2019, 08:43:33 PM
J'ose pas imaginer la surcouche complotiste/conspirationiste si les vaccins étaient gratuits et entièrement assumés voir fabriqué par l'état...

Piqûre de rappel : vaccinez vous et vos enfants, ne pas le faire est criminel pour eux et pour toute la collectivité.

80% de vaccination ca suffit pour éradiquer une maladie, alors ben je laisse les autres faire

3705  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: If not a "store of value" or "medium of exchange" ... on: September 25, 2019, 07:05:41 PM


It shouldn't be a problem, the government has already all the information needed, what else? Your bank's statement history? They're not allowed in 99% of the countries, it's called financial privacy.

Otherwise, I agree with your points, unfortunately, most people involved in Bitcoin do not care about it. No matter what they say, Vires In numeris etc, etc, it's fake. They're interested only about the speculating side and don't even understand the basics. If a day BTC value goes to $20 you will see nobody anymore  Cheesy

then what is bitcoin?  A solution in search of a problem?

At first, Bitcoin was a way of confronting a centralized economy; now it is a way of earning thousands of traders and investors. Bitcoin is losing value as people forget the true purpose of the coin

Correct.  It it loses a third of its value in six months then ... it is not a good medium for investors or shopkeepers.

Ah, you are the type of person who believes the success of Bitcoin can only be measured by its value. I would prefer to see the price as low as $1 and massively accepted than a $50k price but almost nobody using it, expect bizarre businesses
3706  Economy / Web Wallets / Re: I am not receiving my authorization email from blockchain.com | Hushmail on: September 25, 2019, 05:40:37 PM
@stomachgrowls: I didn't receive the email. So I decided to create an Electrum desktop wallet by importing the seed.

Thanks for all of your advices guys.
This is a good decision of yours, just avoid web wallet because this is also high risk and you don't have your own private key.
For free wallet, the safest wallet, as of now is electrum if you have a clean PC to install. Here is the right link and make it sure you did not download a phishing link of electrum wallet. https://electrum.org/#download


If you read fully the discussion, something that a lot of people don't bother to do, you would notice @h4ns is already using Electrum since. And I doubt he needs any of your advice posted. As usual in this forum, people post real shits just to make their post longer but 75% of the text is useless, out of topic, and sometimes posting wrong information. :/
3707  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Any of these Exchanges have been....? on: September 24, 2019, 07:47:00 PM
(as for their reputation, it's another topic but coinexchange is also not well-reputed). I searched quickly and haven't found anything except for 2. Livecoin reported a ~$2 million loss due to a monero wallet vulnerability last month and Gate.io suffered a 51% attack months ago... and the hacker returned a percentage lol.

https://latesthackingnews.com/2018/08/05/monero-wallet-vulnerability-loss-of-1-8-million-to-livecoin-crypto-exchange/
https://www.financemagnates.com/cryptocurrency/news/hacker-allegedly-returns-100000-to-gate-io-following-etc-hack/

Not sure if it was really a hack, I didn't understand correctly the DNS issue.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/8cymgx/warning_coinexchangeio_got_hacked_refuses_to/
https://www.reddit.com/r/ecc/comments/7rqytk/coinexchange_is_back_in_business/
3708  Local / Actualité et News / Re: Adoption massive de la crypto en France on: September 24, 2019, 09:42:00 AM
Ce qui est dommage, et c'est toujours le même probleme, c'est que les entreprises n'adoptent pas vraiment la crypto. Ils utilisent un intermediaire qui le fait pour eux. Quand on les verra gérer eux même leurs wallets, TXs, ect ca sera vraiment de l'adoption (je parle du point de vue entreprises).
Pour l'utilisateur francais franchement ca serai un bon pas en avant quand même, y'a pas des tonnes d'enseignes non plus (https://easy2play.fr/references/) mais bon. Dommage qu'il n'y ait pas genre Auchan, EDF, ect. c'est ca que je veux moi, payer mes courses, mon electricité et autre en BTC Grin

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Je n'ai pas le temps de fouiller mais je suis curieux de voir quels autres partenaires cette solution de paiement peut bien avoir dans d'autres pays !

A voir leur site, c'est une entreprise qui travaille majoritairement sur le marché francais.
3709  Bitcoin / Legal / Re: BitLicense Abolish. on: September 24, 2019, 08:37:49 AM
I don't get it. People keep asking for legislation, licenses, and other legal frameworks and now they complain about the results. And their arguments to say that Bitlicence is too intrusive is debatable. About the sensitive information, any other company unrelated to cryptocurrency do the same, more or less, for accounting and other things (IP address, name, etc) It requires the records to be kept for 7 years of each crypto TX carried out by the company. Ok, but it's already available publicly on the Blockchain, and as the company primarily needs to records your address...

Using centralized services has a cost, your privacy, if people want to use them, in this case, they're not eligible to say it is 'too intrusive'.
For the sake of the crypto ideology?. Oh yeah, with a centralized service... Start to follow the decentralized model so.

If the NYDFS is not entitled 'to invent' regulation, then what? A law won't be much different if they think a statute will be less intrusive... Roll Eyes
3710  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: BAKKT on: September 23, 2019, 08:19:36 PM
Depuis le temps... Avec tous ceux qui annoncaient Bakkt comme élément déclanchant pour un bon bump, on va bien voir!
Pour l'instant Bitcoin n'a pas bronché à la news. En tout cas, j'espere que ca va commencé à attirer des gros fonds, avec l'ICE ca donne déjà plus de crédibilité. A voir sur le moyen terme. J'attends de voir les millions investis  Tongue



3711  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Where to buy bitcoin with bank account? on: September 23, 2019, 12:51:08 PM
@dende93

SEPA transfers take 1 day, and soon instant (already applied in some banks). It's worth waiting a day for, it saves you money. Because paying with a credit card, you will pay a fee of between ~5%-10%, while not with SEPA.

Usually, people use it because they're sure about a big rise in the next hours, and they're in hurry. Otherwise, they use SEPA, most Europeans use either Kraken and Bitstamp.

- Rate paying with CC on Coingate: buy 0.5BTC 4858€
- Rate paying with SEPA on Kraken: buy 0.5BTC 4516€

If using your card is a must then there are Binance, Coingate, here are a dozen of websites https://cryptoradar.co/buy-bitcoin/credit-card
3712  Local / Économie et spéculation / Re: " ultra-CAPITALISME "Ce système économique causera l'extinction de l'humanité !! on: September 21, 2019, 10:21:23 PM
Reportage d'1h30 sur BlackRock " Ces financiers qui dirigent le monde - BlackRock | ARTE " :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Abz3Ab9HhaQ

Je suis agréablement surpris de voir l'engouement des gens pour le visionnage de ce reportage, +300K en 3 jours  Shocked

Je l'ai vu le reportage d'Arte sur BlackRock et les gestion d'actifs, il est excellent en passant.

Qaund tu pense que la multinationale gère plus de 6 000 milliards d'actifs et que 30% sont des ETFs... La chaine a tres bien pointé le probleme avec BR, je parle meme pas du lobbying. Il faudrait que la société soit régulée au mettre titre qu'une banque. https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackRock#Controverses D'ailleurs, comme quelqu'un disait dans la video, Quand BlackRock investi quelque part, les autres s'en vont. Ils ne veulent etre engendré dans des pertes à cause d'eux si quelque chose arrive (grossomodo).

Eux c'est le capitalisme à l'etat pure
3713  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Privacy - How easy it is for someone to find all your wallets addresses on: September 21, 2019, 04:42:51 PM
...

Wallet addresses are not generated automatically upon joining, most of the time the users need to click a "generate address" button.
Kraken is the only exchange I've been using that lets you generate a new address, I've never see another one.
If most exchanges don't provide it, I suppose it's a matter of infrastructure convenience (or security)

We can conclude that privacy is a very challenging task today, and that most internet users including ones that use cryptocurrency do not have the knowledge and skills to remain anonymous. Even if we try to use VPN, Tor, mixers, coin control or any other way to ensure privacy, three-letter agencies are very likely a step or two ahead of us.
it has always been.
3714  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: The End of Crypto Signal Groups on: September 21, 2019, 09:00:05 AM
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.. Until she discovers those shit groups on Telegram and despite I warned her she continued.
Guess the next: with the time, she lost almost everything by buying some random shitcoins, pumped by stupid channels on TL and dumped the next day

Sorry to hear that  Cry
They should be called newbie scamming groups, would be far more accurate.

But I find the article pretty weird, after all:
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Starting with Shrimpy, there are now intelligent tools which can automate the process of getting signals for your portfolio

So, we're replacing the old scam filled telegram groups with industrial size newbie shaving facilities?
Anyhow, other than theory and fancy wording I don't see any real metrics that would point to those groups dying out, just another disguised publicity article.

Signal groups in a way, function similarly to pump and dump groups.

They's don't just function similarly, it's the same thing, but Signaling sounds better than Pump&Dump, just as ICO and IEO sound better than "Buy a Shitcoin".



Well, no choice to accept the losses if she wants to remain stubborn.

Signal groups are not really different for some. It all remains on what resources they really have to collect data.
The average Joe could create his owns signals using, for example, google alert+microsfot flow+xyz indicators, then mix the results, etc...
I'm sure it will be more advanced than some shitty signal groups.

If BlackRock's algorithms were public and providing signals, it will be a lot different and I will use it myself Grin
3715  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: Coinsbee.com - Buy gift cards with about 50 crypto currencies! on: September 20, 2019, 10:03:12 PM
@Coinsbee

Perhaps I didn't explain correctly but it wasn't showing me the right currency. But today I re-visited your website and all it's fine.
I bought a gift card today to test and got it
3716  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: I got hacked, I need your help.... on: September 20, 2019, 09:33:35 PM
this is the transaction he made from my wallet:
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/tx/b42c2c5096f0003a88a700cb7c9dd246f1f2b79d6bd53f88f08fa24ed3b053d4
this is his address
12HfRnx47gQnnYn9Q3Zpiuzzv6yzXTKMEJ
Looks like the coins are sent to a coinpayments wallet, you can contact them and explain your case and they might block the account or if you are lucky enough and if you could provide evidence they might help you in recovering the coins. I have seen coins being recovered after the hackers sending to exchanges in the past, the faster you contact their customer support and state your case the better .

Bitcoin payments are supposed to be irreversible. What do you describe could be compared to a 'chargeback'. In terms of abuse like merchands are abused with PP.
OMG if companies start to accept to do such practices then, it will be exactly like Paypal.
You buy something, wait for the item to be shipped, and then contact the platform to say "hello, I've been hacked here is a signed message!"
3717  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Wallet..Paypal..No Bank Account on: September 20, 2019, 04:29:10 PM
No there isn't any since Paypal forbids any activity related to cryptocurrency. Your best bet would be to use some p2p marketplaces like LocalBitcoin or Paxfull and websites like Coinsbee where you can buy some Paypal gift cards and pay with your bitcoins.
There is also a currency exchange section here, you may find some offers.

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offshore account. It is in the form of Bitcoins
We call it a Bitcoin wallet Smiley
Not sure what wallet type are you using but I don't see why you would need an online wallet to then convert your money in cash.

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@slow death
are you a criminal? because who doesn't have a real world bank account is because he has some serious problem with justice or with government

There are ~2 billion people unbanked worldwide, (just in the USA 25% of US households are either unbanked or underbanked
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/08/25percent-of-us-households-are-either-unbanked-or-underbanked.html)
3718  Economy / Reputation / Re: Flag catchabtc? on: September 20, 2019, 03:05:46 PM
catchabtc deleted their previous thread and created a new thread. Since they've also created a new bitcointalk.org account to advertise I've added the same flag to it which marlboroza created for the old account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2681230

The account @capri seems to be linked to the 2 others

- He joined yesterday https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2682708
- Guess for what? Talking about the site https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2682708;sa=showPosts
- And to who he gives +1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2681230
3719  Economy / Service Announcements / Re: 🔥 Buying Gift Cards with Bitcoins and Altcoins - Cryptosgifts.com 🔥 on: September 20, 2019, 02:52:50 PM
The customer reviews on the website are fake, the dates are older than the domain name registration LOL
I checked just 2 pages randomly, I guess I don't need to check more.

Random examples below with comment from March, June, February,etc.
https://cryptosgifts.com/produit/carte-amazon/#reviews



Great way to start to a legitimate website  Roll Eyes
3720  Economy / Exchanges / Re: Bitcoin exchange with no fee? on: September 20, 2019, 11:33:08 AM
Because there are no fiats options I guess. That's the reason they're currently running fine without KYC. But once the site becomes big, they will implement it, like any others, do not worry... Grin

As for the withdrawals, it's probably because they send the transactions in batch. There are some exchanges doing this to avoid TX fees for users.
I remember Paymium was doing the same (and poloniex maybe too?)
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