I have ZERO interest in favouring a winner since i am only taking a 3% fee. The fact you're taking a fee has nothing to do with whether or not you would play on your site and use information that only you have access to to gain an unfair advantage over players. You could easily do this undetected and make more money. Again, i am at the opposing end of traditional casinos that take 97% instead of 3% and that i showed in one of my first messages in the posts i wrote you. The traditional casino doesn't take 97%. If they offer a game with a 3% house edge, they will profit 3% of the total wagered, just like you. Provably fair is a nonsense as you already know You're uninformed about provably fair. Do some research. I am not a scammer, i can even show you the source code since i am the programmer myself, Cool, post it. i never bet against my players and i can show that as well. Cool, prove it. Make it so that you couldn't exploit the players even if you wanted to also...of course this would require a provably fair system which you think is nonsense. |
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Also, you should expect some scam attempts since you appear to have a lot of money that you're willing to risk. If you get any pms from people pitching an idea, asking for a favor, offering to somehow help you or just trying to 'be friends', they are 100% trying to scam you - tell them to fuck off.
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10 people bought 1 ticket each means 10 Betcoins
1 person buying 11 tickets that is 1024 Betcoins
total pot = 1034 Betcoins
10 people bought 1 ticket each means 10 Betcoins
1 person buying 12 tickets that is 2048 Betcoins
total pot = 2058 Betcoins
What about the 3% fee? Wouldn't the total pot be 1034 - 31.02 fee = 1002.98 pot in the first example and 2058 - 61.79 fee =1996.27 pot in the second example? Yes i missed that, that s correct. The calculations still hold, i just forgot the fee, i m doing a lot of things right now. In both of these scenarios, the player who bought the most tickets would lose the most no matter what. And if they bought another ticket, they would lose even more. <== is this true or false, just want to be clear Regarding your statement : "A lot of red flags with betroom.eu The owner/developer is either being intentionally deceitful or doesn't really understand the basics of how casinos work." I showed you that you are totally wrong. I exposed my point of view, i said that bidding is not on the table (only up to a certain point) AND buying more tickets GIVES you an advantage in the scenarios i have showed you. But, since all this information is publicly available (ticket prices, game stats, general stats, etc) for people to make their own assumptions and objectively prove that i m right, i do not see how i am "deceitful or doesn't really understand the basics of how casinos work.". You are looking for the scammers very hard i see and when you can t find one, you make one up. Well, given the circumstances and the proof i have put forth, you deceive people into thinking you have found something when in reality you are just lying to them. I don't think you're a scammer, I just think you're misleading potential players and then trying to defend the misleading statements with a bunch of deflection and convoluted arguments. You're also not very transparent at all. The rules are not clear, nothing is provably fair, and, at least in the rocket game, players just have to trust that you aren't simply beating them yourself because you know exactly when the rocket will explode. You take a 3% fee from each bet, that's fine. But whether it's a fee or a house edge doesn't matter, the players will on average lose %3 of what they bet. You claim the more you bet the more 'success' you have. Yet, your rocket games offer scenarios where the player has literally a 0% chance to profit. The more they bet the more they lose. |
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10 people bought 1 ticket each means 10 Betcoins
1 person buying 11 tickets that is 1024 Betcoins
total pot = 1034 Betcoins
10 people bought 1 ticket each means 10 Betcoins
1 person buying 12 tickets that is 2048 Betcoins
total pot = 2058 Betcoins
What about the 3% fee? Wouldn't the total pot be 1034 - 31.02 fee = 1002.98 pot in the first example and 2058 - 61.79 fee =1996.27 pot in the second example? Yes i missed that, that s correct. The calculations still hold, i just forgot the fee, i m doing a lot of things right now. In both of these scenarios, the player who bought the most tickets would lose the most no matter what. And if they bought another ticket, they would lose even more. <== is this true or false, just want to be clear |
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10 people bought 1 ticket each means 10 Betcoins
1 person buying 11 tickets that is 1024 Betcoins
total pot = 1034 Betcoins
10 people bought 1 ticket each means 10 Betcoins
1 person buying 12 tickets that is 2048 Betcoins
total pot = 2058 Betcoins
What about the 3% fee? Wouldn't the total pot be 1034 - 31.02 fee = 1002.98 pot in the first example and 2058 - 61.79 fee =1996.27 pot in the second example? Yes i missed that, that s correct. The calculations still hold, i just forgot the fee, i m doing a lot of things right now. So in both of these scenarios, the player who bought the most tickets would lose the most no matter what. And if they bought another ticket, they would lose even more. Is this true, or am I missing something? |
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10 people bought 1 ticket each means 10 Betcoins
1 person buying 11 tickets that is 1024 Betcoins
total pot = 1034 Betcoins
10 people bought 1 ticket each means 10 Betcoins
1 person buying 12 tickets that is 2048 Betcoins
total pot = 2058 Betcoins
What about the 3% fee? Wouldn't the total pot be 1034 - 31.02 fee = 1002.98 pot in the first example and 2058 - 61.79 fee =1996.27 pot in the second example? |
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I can back up what i m saying by directly challenging him to a game of Rocket Crash where i hold only 2 tickets while you hold 1 ticket and i can prove that i will beat you way better than the ratio of 2:1, proving the point that the higher number of tickets gives a more of an exponential than a proportional edge over competition. This has been tested by ourselves many times over, that s why the ticket prices rise exponentially and not linearly.
It would need to be better than a 3:1 win ratio to prove your point (I spend 1, you spend 1 + 2). Let's say you bought 10 tickets though and 10 other people each bought 1 ticket. Let's also just say first ticket costs $1 for simplicity. You would spend a total of $1,023 on your 10 tickets and the other 10 players would spend $1 each, so the total spent on tickets would be $1,033. $1,033 total spent 3% fee = $30.99 Prizepool = $1002.01 You would have a very high chance of successfully turning your $1,023 into $1002.01. Spending doesn t work like that. The formula for tickets' cost is 2 pow (n-1), where n is the number of tickets bought, so if you buy 1 ticket it costs you 1 Betcoin (1 Betcoin = 0.0001 Bitcoins). If i buy 2 tickets it costs me 2 Betcoins. Now, if we bet against each other EVERY time, i would put down 2, you would put down 1, so 3 in total. If we keep betting continuously like this, Betroom's fee would be equal to the ticket's cost in 33 and 1/3 games. So, in order for me to be profitable i would need to break out of the 2:1 ratio, which holds me captive in an equal risk/return loop, PLUS Betroom's fee per game. To make up for Betroom's fee i would need an advantage of 3% of the 3 tickets, that is 9% of your ticket. So, every game i need a 9% advantage over you to break even, that is, i need an additional win every 11 games, leading to a 2.27:1 ratio - let s round it up to a 2.3:1 ratio. That s ONLY a 15% advantage over the 2:1 ratio, far from your 3:1 ratio, to start making money. Our tests indicate that every 25 games, with a 2:1 ticket ratio, you get a 18.5:6.5 ratio, that is roughly 2.85:1. At this pace you MAKE money. So, if you want to test this with me we can go ahead and do it, if not, do revise your negative review over my website, a review that was not even tested before it was put up. Direct question: In the rocket game, if 10 people bought 1 ticket each, and you bought 11 tickets total, how much would you spend for the 11 tickets, and how much would the prize be if you won. Same scenario, but you bought 12 tickets instead of 11. How much would the 12 tickets cost, and what would the prize be. |
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I have bought over 3500 bonuses on Kong Megaways. 3500!!! And not one bonus paid more than 1000x.
This is unremarkable. How often do you expect a 1000x outcome? Even if it was programmed to pay out 1000x 1 out of every 1,000 times, and every other time the result was a win of 0, it would still be well within normal variance to go 3500 in a row without a 1000x. It seems like you made 3500 bets on a high variance game and didn't get lucky. Okay I get what you are saying. But machines have set RTP's. This machine has an RTP of 96.03%. And I lose money 9 times out of 10 on a bonus buy. And when I win on the 1 out of 10 bonus buys it never pays more than 1000 euro above my bet. So if I use 750 euro as an average bet size (Even though I always buy more 1500 euro buys) then I have bought 2,625,000 EURO worth of buys on Kong at 3500 buys. 96.03% RTP which means Kong should have paid back 2,520,787.5 EURO in wins. Which it clearly has not. The slot is rigged. Yesterday I lost 3 BTC in one session with all spins resulting in losses way below the initial buy. There's variance. If you played the slot infinite times, you can expect to see the true RTP. You made 3500 bets. Maybe it has a .00001% chance of paying out 100,000x + your bet. If that's the case, you'd need a sample size in the millions to prove anything. That's the problem with online casinos who aren't regulated by anyone that forces transparency. They could be rigged, and there's just no way to prove it because we can't get a big enough sample size. So if Bitcasino limits the slot to paying out a maximum of 750x which I believe is the case on a 10 EURO bet, I will never be able to win my money back. Bitcasino wont disclose what limits they set on the slot and neither will blueprint. If it is limited and bitcasino doesn't disclose this to players knowing that they can never win back a 100,000 euro loss or more because the slot is limited then isn't that classified as fraud? If they're advertising the RTP as 96%, and it's actually lower, then that's fraud. There could be a 750x max and the RTP could still be 96% though. And your assumption that you figured out the max win after 3500 bets is not based on a proper sample size. Bit off topic, but an example of transparency in slots would be the regulators in Vegas and Atlantic City test each game, they're able to simulate 10's of millions of bets and determine if the RTP is below the legal limit or not. They track everything. Casino isn't allowed access the software without permission from the regulator, and if they get caught doing so, even if by accident, they pay massive fines. They also publish monthly revenue reports, that show exactly how much was wagered on slots and table games, and how much the casino profited. Here are the results for November 2019: https://www.nj.gov/oag/ge/docs/Financials/MGR2019/201911revenue.pdfYou won't find that kind of transparency at a site like Bitcasino, unfortunately. |
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I have bought over 3500 bonuses on Kong Megaways. 3500!!! And not one bonus paid more than 1000x.
This is unremarkable. How often do you expect a 1000x outcome? Even if it was programmed to pay out 1000x 1 out of every 1,000 times, and every other time the result was a win of 0, it would still be well within normal variance to go 3500 in a row without a 1000x. It seems like you made 3500 bets on a high variance game and didn't get lucky. Okay I get what you are saying. But machines have set RTP's. This machine has an RTP of 96.03%. And I lose money 9 times out of 10 on a bonus buy. And when I win on the 1 out of 10 bonus buys it never pays more than 1000 euro above my bet. So if I use 750 euro as an average bet size (Even though I always buy more 1500 euro buys) then I have bought 2,625,000 EURO worth of buys on Kong at 3500 buys. 96.03% RTP which means Kong should have paid back 2,520,787.5 EURO in wins. Which it clearly has not. The slot is rigged. Yesterday I lost 3 BTC in one session with all spins resulting in losses way below the initial buy. There's variance. If you played the slot infinite times, you can expect to see the true RTP. You made 3500 bets. Maybe it has a .00001% chance of paying out 100,000x + your bet. If that's the case, you'd need a sample size in the millions to prove anything. That's the problem with online casinos who aren't regulated by anyone that forces transparency. They could be rigged, and there's just no way to prove it because we can't get a big enough sample size and don't have access to the software to see for ourselves. |
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I have bought over 3500 bonuses on Kong Megaways. 3500!!! And not one bonus paid more than 1000x.
This is unremarkable. How often do you expect a 1000x outcome? Even if it was programmed to pay out 1000x 1 out of every 1,000 times, and every other time the result was a win of 0, it would still be well within normal variance to go 3500 in a row without a 1000x. It seems like you made 3500 bets on a high variance game and didn't get lucky. |
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/iran-plane-crash-boeing-ukraine.htmlA Boeing 737 carrying 180 people crashed shortly after takeoff from Tehran because of technical problems, according to the Iranian Students News Agency, a state-run media agency.
The conditions of the passengers and crew were not immediately known.
The plane was bound for Ukraine, the news agency reported. Perfect, one can blame Iran, US, or whoever else for this that fits the narrative they believe.
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Where is Pelosi? Congress needs to put the leash on Trump instead of just sitting by while he takes us to war.
I don't think Congress will be able to slow this down, the War Powers Resolution is vague enough that it might as well not exist, and they would need a veto proof majority to pass a new one. Best chance of things slowing down enough to begin some sort of negotiation would probably be someone who can really kiss his ass and make him feel good, like Rand Paul or Lindsay Graham or even Mitch, convincing Trump that his maximum pressure strategy could have a worse result than Bush and Iraq and offering some scenario for him to back down and convince his followers he didn't actually back down and any negative side effects are 100% the democrats fault. |
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Iran state TV: Tehran fires at Iraqi base housing US troopsTEHRAN, Iran (AP) — Iran state TV says Tehran has launched “tens” of surface-to-surface missiles at Iraq’s Ain Assad air base housing U.S. troops over America’s killing of a top Iranian general.
State TV described it early Wednesday as Tehran’s revenge operation over the killing of Revolutionary Guard Gen. Qassem Soleimani.If any Americans died, it's Trumps turn to hit back harder or back down.
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I can back up what i m saying by directly challenging him to a game of Rocket Crash where i hold only 2 tickets while you hold 1 ticket and i can prove that i will beat you way better than the ratio of 2:1, proving the point that the higher number of tickets gives a more of an exponential than a proportional edge over competition. This has been tested by ourselves many times over, that s why the ticket prices rise exponentially and not linearly.
It would need to be better than a 3:1 win ratio to prove your point (I spend 1, you spend 1 + 2). Let's say you bought 10 tickets though and 10 other people each bought 1 ticket. Let's also just say first ticket costs $1 for simplicity. You would spend a total of $1,023 on your 10 tickets and the other 10 players would spend $1 each, so the total spent on tickets would be $1,033. $1,033 total spent 3% fee = $30.99 Prizepool = $1002.01 You would have a very high chance of successfully turning your $1,023 into $1002.01. |
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1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake.
How is this different than a poker tournament that costs $100 to enter and $97 goes to the prize pool, 3% to the house. Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly Huh? If there are 10 players who each bought the same amount of tickets, would they not each have a 10% chance to win?\ Poker tournament - 9 players and a dealer with a LIMITED pot Betroom's games - UNLIMITED number of players with an UNLIMITED pot Everything else, relate to my last reply. Poker tournament, unlimited players with unlimited prize pool, there is no dealer if it's online, they use software...same as you. Also Betroom's games are FAST - a game starts every 20 seconds allowing a winner every 20 seconds. A feat that NO other website is capable of providing. Poker games take forever to complete while our games complete at an average rate of 20 seconds. Now you suddenly shifted from comparing traditional casinos where people bet against the house to a single game "poker". It is indeed close to online poker tournaments but it s far different from it, from gameplay to rate of games played per minute. Now you are starting to realise the GENIUS in Betroom. That is a good thing. All I'm saying is that with a 3% fee, each ticket is worth 97% of the price, so the more tickets you buy, the more you lose. Buying more tickets for one game will increase your chances of winning, but it won't make you more successful. It doesn't matter how much you spend, 3% of it will go to you and the rest will go to the players. You're the owner of the site right? "Buying more tickets for one game will increase your chances of winning, but it won't make you more successful." WHAT is that? Increasing the chances of success WILL and DOES make you more successful in all walks of life, the MORE you put in, the MORE you get out of it. There are some concepts in life that you seem to NOT understand. I am unsure if it s your desire to overlook them or pure lack of knowledge, but before making statements, please go on and study the matter in question. Of course it matters how much you spend, if you spend more you CAN become more successful. No. Risking $1 to win $100 1% of the time and risking $100 to make $1 99% of the time will be equally 'successful' bets. The only thing that changes is variance. Buying more tickets allows you to win more often, but your profit will be less than if you bought just one ticket. This is basic stuff here. |
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1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake.
How is this different than a poker tournament that costs $100 to enter and $97 goes to the prize pool, 3% to the house. Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly Huh? If there are 10 players who each bought the same amount of tickets, would they not each have a 10% chance to win?\ Poker tournament - 9 players and a dealer with a LIMITED pot Betroom's games - UNLIMITED number of players with an UNLIMITED pot Everything else, relate to my last reply. Poker tournament, unlimited players with unlimited prize pool, there is no dealer if it's online, they use software...same as you. Also Betroom's games are FAST - a game starts every 20 seconds allowing a winner every 20 seconds. A feat that NO other website is capable of providing. Poker games take forever to complete while our games complete at an average rate of 20 seconds. Now you suddenly shifted from comparing traditional casinos where people bet against the house to a single game "poker". It is indeed close to online poker tournaments but it s far different from it, from gameplay to rate of games played per minute. Now you are starting to realise the GENIUS in Betroom. That is a good thing. All I'm saying is that with a 3% fee, each ticket is worth 97% of the price, so the more tickets you buy, the more you lose. Buying more tickets for one game will increase your chances of winning, but it won't make you more successful. It doesn't matter how much you spend, 3% of it will go to you and the rest will go to the players. You're the owner of the site right? |
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1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake.
How is this different than a poker tournament that costs $100 to enter and $97 goes to the prize pool, 3% to the house. Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly Huh? If there are 10 players who each bought the same amount of tickets, would they not each have a 10% chance to win?\ Poker tournament - 9 players and a dealer with a LIMITED pot Betroom's games - UNLIMITED number of players with an UNLIMITED pot Everything else, relate to my last reply. Poker tournament, unlimited players with unlimited prize pool, there is no dealer if it's online, they use software...same as you. Betroom allows players to increase their odds, as i said, by buying more tickets. You also said: Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games And there are poker tournaments that allow players to buy in unlimited times. |
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1. First off, there is only a 3% fee deducted when the players buy their tickets, therefore this is not a rake.
How is this different than a poker tournament that costs $100 to enter and $97 goes to the prize pool, 3% to the house. Betroom does NOT have any odds of winning in any of its games and, most importantly Huh? If there are 10 players who each bought the same amount of tickets, would they not each have a 10% chance to win?\ Poker tournament - 9 players and a dealer with a LIMITED pot Betroom's games - UNLIMITED number of players with an UNLIMITED pot Everything else, relate to my last reply. Poker tournament, unlimited players with unlimited prize pool, there is no dealer if it's online, they use software...same as you. |
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