(which is ironic because the west loves socialism). You've lost me there though ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) See: Socialist health care, socialist retirement funding, socialist housing, wage controls, Obama, Hillary, Bernie, etc. Progressive = socialist Environmentalist = socialist US liberal = socialist
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I thought by now the situation would have improved. The Brent crude prices are hovering around $50 per barrel for the past few weeks, and the Venezuelan government must be getting quite good amounts of Forex now. Seems like the governing elite is diverting the money to tax havens, and planning to escape from the country.
Do keep in mind that there will be a lot of propaganda around this. The west will want to hold Venezuela up as an example of a failed socialist state (which is ironic because the west loves socialism). Like all propaganda they will point to the instances of radical mayhem and infer that this is happening throughout the country. Most likely the worst is in the major cities while the small towns out in the country are probably living life as usual (with some more efforts than usual). It is a good example of what will come and helps to demonstrate how to prepare. But if you watch that video of the Venezualan pageant women, it shows a bustling city without panic on the streets. Such panic is a symptom of a bigger problem much in how Ferguson in the US is a symptom of our impending economic crisis. It hits some before it hits others. It's just more sensationalizing to report on those that it hits first.
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nmc/usd going up and nmc/btc going down weird ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) btc/usd is going up faster than nmc/usd
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Sold my house this week. My mortgage was the last thing requiring me to have a bank account. Last mont my landlord started taking bitcoins for rent. He is happy.
Now to get all of that equity into bitcoins quickly.
I think I found a buyer for you... In a period of time, I have been buying bitcoins only in cash and amassed over 800 btc, I keep them in several wallets. Now, I'm in a need of buying some stuff unfortunately you still cant buy with btc nowadays - car, wedding ceremony, paying for some travel trips, general spending in life etc. So I need to cash out at least 250 btc, but the problem is the taxes. Im willing to pay them, no issues, but I think they'll cause me some troubles as people may think this money comes from illegal operations, which is not true but I have no way to prove it. https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4n1680/cashing_out_a_big_sum_of_btc_without_getting_in/You need some reading comprehension lessons, StraightAArdvark, I mean Lambie.... Explained it to us how a house that has already been sold (Elwar's house)... is going to be sold again by Elwar? There is a considerable level of logical incoherence in the content of your post. Oh? It appears that the purpose of your post was to bring up some anecdotal evidence that is somehow related to bitcoin and the holding of a large amount of bitcoin (O.k. I am stretching to help you out here in order to identify some kind of a stretch of a connection in your post ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) ) in order to attempt to make some kind of parody concerning the behaviors of bitcoin users based on your described example of some kind of crazy person, no? Back to Elwar's situation for a moment. Isn't Elwar facing a different issue, and that is figuring out means in which to convert a large portion of his soon to be in-hand cash proceeds to bitcoin? Not necessarily a bad problem to have, but not answered by your response. I personally don't buy into an all or nothing approach to investing into BTC, but I understand the dilemma and temptation in holding so much cash all at once and then wanting to get that likely depreciating cash into an appreciation status, which bitcoin is in a very decent position and good upward odds at the moment (even though there is no guarantee from this current price point). Let's say Elwar's proceeds from his house are anywhere between $10K and $100k? how much to invest into BTC? Surely, he has got to account for his own particular circumstances in terms of how much BTC he already holds and his cash flow and his other investments and time line. Maybe invest 80% of the proceeds within a short period of time in increments of $5k to $10k? In recent months, I have found it to be quite useful to maintain a BTC portfolio that maintains both BTC and fiat, and I find a lot of stress relief and flexibility in that kind of approach, especially given the volatile nature of BTC, even though maintaining proportions in both BTC and fiat seems to cause some additional needs to pay attention to BTC prices in order to take advantage of price fluctuation opportunities.. which are likely going to continue to take place for years to come in bitcoinlandia. Yep, looking at the guy's issue he has a lot of bitcoins but wants to get them converted to fiat without throwing up red flags of money laundering (aka, the government doesn't know every detail of where the money came from). In theory it would work out for us if I cashed out my house proceeds and gave him cash for the bitcoins. But a wire transfer from my government bank to his would throw up red flags. I spoke with BitPay to see about an OTC trade but they recommended I use itbit. I've looked at their OTC platform and they only charge .1% which is reasonable. I will have to tell my government bank to make sure to note that this large deposit is coming from a home sale so they can report to their masters about why I am moving so much money. I will have to inform them that my wire transfer is for the purchase of bitcoins so they can also report that as well. Wouldn't want the government to be uninformed about money flow. I'll be converting 100% (about $150k) to bitcoins. I see no need to hang on to that much money in dollars. I have no near term plans to purchase a home or anything like that with it and I don't live in the US anyway so dollars are useless to me (other than the occasional visit to the Commissary).
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$9.1 million passed: PANAMA ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Finternationalliving.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F10%2Fpanama-city-578x384.jpg&t=663&c=3WObOafISEvVgQ) BAHRAIN ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.fourseasons.com%2Fcontent%2Fdam%2Ffourseasons%2Fimages%2Fweb%2FBAH%2FBAH_135_1280x486.jpg%2Fjcr%3Acontent%2Frenditions%2Fcq5dam.web.1280.1280.jpeg&t=663&c=11QkW1yT6CvLJg) CROATIA ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mxlarge.com%2Fmxlarge%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2015%2F04%2Fcroatia.jpg&t=663&c=K4Df9R5f5Tb2lw)
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Suppose for a second that Chinese miners were being "subsidized" by the Chinese government in more ways than just free electricity?
But... but... why would they do that?? What advantage could China gain over the long term with Bitcoin?? What could the Chinese miners possibly be giving their Government in return for such generosity?
In communist countries people produce for the good of all. There is no greed.
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Sold my house this week. My mortgage was the last thing requiring me to have a bank account. Last mont my landlord started taking bitcoins for rent. He is happy.
So all this time you've been telling us your landlord accepts BTC, you were just lying? And I trusted you... ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) I paid my rent in bitcoin. Bitwa.la allows you to send a SEPA transfer. He was ok with that. Now it's direct. Let me understand this. You convert your paycheck from the US army into bitcoins via BitWage, and then you use Bitwa.la to pay your landlord via a SEPA transfer. BitWage charges you a fee, Bitwa.la charges you a fee, and the SEPA itself is a bank service. So you've added 3 middlemen, fees, and ridiculous complications for what us Luddites do via a seamless p2p cash-in-hand, 0-fee exchange ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Why do I feel you're playing me? Other than you never mentioning that you were paying off the filthy fiat loan you got from bankster j00z to buy a house? BitWage charges 1%. Biwala charges 1%. I am paid in dollars. My rent is in euros. The exchange fee the guys at work pay is 4 to 5 percent. Plus bitcoin is my main currency. It is made to gain value over time as opposed to federal reserve notes which are built with the purpose of losing value over time. Losing 1% up front does not keep me up at night.
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Sold my house this week. My mortgage was the last thing requiring me to have a bank account. Last mont my landlord started taking bitcoins for rent. He is happy.
So all this time you've been telling us your landlord accepts BTC, you were just lying? And I trusted you... ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) I paid my rent in bitcoin. Bitwa.la allows you to send a SEPA transfer. He was ok with that. Now it's direct.
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Sold my house this week. My mortgage was the last thing requiring me to have a bank account. Last mont my landlord started taking bitcoins for rent. He is happy.
Now to get all of that equity into bitcoins quickly.
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"Broke" dude getting richer by the day.
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dafuq ETH 132m volume ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Probably this. They're very colose to having a closed-loop economy now: smart contracts, DAO, getting paid in ETH, etc., etc. @Elwar: You use BitWage, don't you? Yep. I don't understand why someone would use BitWage to get ethereums. It's not a currency, it's a single use coin (used for Ethereum apps). I use BitWage because bitcoin is my main currency which I can use for spending.
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Looks like we've lost the price point. This will be a roller coaster until we reach $666 or $450/$420.
Hopefully we just hit $666 long enough for some rocket fueling stability.
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Matthew 20:16
"So the last will be first, and the first last.” ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Bobbie 18:14 "If you're not first, you're last."
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I heard there is a great sale on Venezuelan fiat going on right now. Does anyone know where I can buy some with bitcoins?
I know I know...don't invest more than you can afford to loose.
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It's a brave new world ... organisations who have become dependent upon mission critical IT infrastructure should pay for better IT security and if they don't even understand what that means they should pay someone who knows to help them out ... instead of playing victim after demonstrating willful negligence.
How about you scumbags just stop extorting hospitals before you get a jackboot up your ass, to demonstrate your willful negligence in securing it? How would that be? says the hacker
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Chase website is down. Dollar was hacked!
Has the dollar CEO made a statement yet?
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I have said it time and time again, when the goal of the global warming alarmists is no longer socialism, then I'll start to listen to their "facts". Until then, it's just the same communist agenda of the 1900s re-branded. “One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with the environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole,” said Edenhofer, who co-chaired the U.N.’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change working group on Mitigation of Climate Change from 2008 to 2015.
So what is the goal of environmental policy?
“We redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy,” said Edenhofer.
For those who want to believe that maybe Edenhofer just misspoke and doesn’t really mean that, consider that a little more than five years ago he also said that “the next world climate summit in Cancun is actually an economy summit during which the distribution of the world’s resources will be negotiated.”
Perhaps Naomi Klein summed up best what the warming the fuss is all about in her book “This Changes Everything: Capitalism vs. the Climate.”
“What if global warming isn’t only a crisis?” Klein asks in a preview of a documentary inspired by her book. “What if it’s the best chance we’re ever going to get to build a better world?” http://www.investors.com/politics/editorials/another-climate-alarmist-admits-real-motive-behind-warming-scare/
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