Disquoting is a form of dishonesty also. Falseness really comes natural to you, doesn't it?
No. There's a reason why it's FTFY. Would be fun if you were Quickscammer though. That said; both are true. You tagged many dishonest and honest members. The latter is what makes you false.
Nope. I tagged next to zero honest members that didn't deserve tagging. The ol' repeat the lie hoping it spreads smear tactic. Classic. |
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Many dishonest forum members suffered from it.
FTFY. The goal of the cartel interested only in their self-gain has is within reach. Almost a scammers' Utopia.
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Lauda, I think your trust list is a good suggestion, and not just because I'm on it. Perhaps you should start a new thread to get the attention of more viewers. Just a suggestion, but I think it'd be a good idea.
Sounds like a good idea for the Reputation section, in addition to listing a small tl;dr for each inclusion/exclusion. If the system doesn't work for its users[1], the it is best for the users to work around the system. There are too many problems with the current DT setup--that's become glaringly apparent as of late and I know there are a lot of people here who support kind of the same views as the members in your list who might not necessarily have noticed it.
I complained about some things and some people ages ago. In a way, I knew what was going on and what was going to happen. Now it should be obvious to most people who didn't want to believe for whatever reason.
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is gunbot still for 0.1btc?
Not at all... price has been reduced a lot.. check these sites https://tradingbotpro.comthecryptobot.com gunbot.shop all that sites represent the same bot? but why the price is different? :/ The websites are trying to be competitively misleading by advertising false discounts or misinterpreting the pricing of 1 licence as the standard licence. The pricing is as follows: - Gunbot XT Edition core + Gunthy GUI+ALL EXCHANGES+TRADINGVIEW + Cryptosight : 0.106BTC - Gunbot XT Edition core + Gunthy GUI+1 exchange + Cryptosight : 0.056BTC - Gunbot Lite Edition core + Gunthy GUI+1 exchange+Cryptosight : 0.026BTC
On top of this, a discount (e.g. my 15%) can be applied when purchasing from the relevant party. |
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I hear yah, and I can't blame anyone for not wanting to comb the site for little thanks or any.
In my mind untrusted feedback is no different than reading reviews online some are spam/fake/and accurate, that just comes down to due diligence and whether or not people want to put in the effort. It is more time consuming but between that and doing a review of their past posts it's a good way to see what their game is.
This is probably a snippet that you might want to read (or re-read): The DT2 active members were lacking in number anyways, but were somewhat properly distributed in *protecting* several sections of the forum. The only remaining active user for Scam Accusations/Reputation and other shady action (sales, farming, abuse) is actmyname and there are a few that occasionally act (Vod, ibminer && similar). cryptodevil and suchmoon were/are active in the Altcoin section (and a few others). All three of them are 1 exclusion away from being kicked. If TC follows OgNasty's exclusion (again), then the only remaining section with *some protection* would the Lending section where Vod is very active (and wherever actmyname *roams* assuming he doesn't get excluded for [insertInvalidRandomReason]). We've almost reached the Utopia for scammers. Keep up the marvelous work. I'm sure the trio will be thanked by many legitimate shady members.  For a more saner, and safer approach you can use this as your starting trust list. Either way, thanks to all who have tried to keep things safe and tidy.
You are welcome; we tried.  |
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Long story short I hope you all still continue to leave people trust accordingly because some of us actually review the entire feedback left section and not just the rating under their profile.
I very much doubt that people are going to accept their efforts being wasted. Most DT members abandoned ship partially due to this. The majority of users do not view untrusted feedback. [1] Depending on how you view a feline-to-human marriage, I am arguably first in command.  I agree with everything you say Lauda, except your trust in cats. D Why should I not trust my own kind?  * Lauda prepares a jedi cat attack on your dogs. |
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There is a fundamental flaw in the centralized trust system, i.e. the the centralizing factor (the person). Theymos does not act as frequently as he should, i.e. he does not act swiftly on obvious collusion as is in the recent case. Either decentralize it in a way, or act more frequently and more vigorously.
Therefore, yes it is battlefield between users trying to clean this place up and users who only care about their own profit. It is not going to change anytime soon (see above).
The flawed trust system, plus the unregulated presence of scammers, shitposters, and account sales, along with the rift between camps of people sharing differing and often contentious views on all of those things--this is why the forum is a battleground. And the lack of strong leadership on top of everything. Ugh, what a mess. The goal of the cartel interested only in their self-gain has is within reach. Almost a scammers' Utopia.
From your own perspective, you're fine as long as you use what I suggested[1]. For the others (i.e. 99% of the forum members, they have been essentially thrown into a pit with hungry monsters). It's sad when self-greed due to own failing endeavors takes over your judgement as is the case here. [1] This: ~HostFat
gmaxwell
~OgNasty
qwk
Vod
~Tomatocage
DiamondCardz
KWH
ibminer
~defcon23
Mitchell
~cyclops
Blazed
hilariousandco
~shorena
~jonald_fyookball
~CryptoImperator
~chronicsky
~Quickseller
Zepher
actmyname
The Pharmacist
Lutpin
Gunthar
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Assuming the picture that someone posted (somewhere around here) of that little hut shack is real, you're the one who needs help with their financial situation. You're staring to resemble Quickseller in writing. Here's a video of my "shack" for your viewing pleasure. Tell me again why your opinion has value? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKisxNn1ueQSo the picture was from the right house; indeed a shack. Poor thing; where she ran from.
The lies were easily debunked though. |
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You saying something doesn't make it true. If you didn't see him as DT2 at the time, it's because your trust list is messed up. He was in fact DT2 at the time, and I did save your negative default rating at the time.
Wrong. BG4 was not DT2 then, the same way that he isn't now. Wouldn't be surprised if you quickly added him to make it seem that I'm wrong. ... rage quit several times..
Wrong. Quitting =/= rage quitting. I did it because I'm a nice person and didn't want you to feel excluded from a chatroom.
You saying something doesn't make it true. Nobody in their right mind would believe that. What better thing could I have given you to understand how NastyFans works than a free seat so you get access to the system?
When did say I want to understand the *underlying workings* of your whatever system? It has not contributed to Bitcoin in any way, thus is uninteresting. Maybe by help you meant with your financial situation? I imagine your claims and actions will become more and more desperate as time passes, so I'm glad to see that tomatocage has been watching and is staying in front of it.
Another false insinuation. Assuming the picture that someone posted (somewhere around here) of that little hut shack is real, you're the one who needs help with their financial situation. You're staring to resemble Quickseller in writing. Very predictable indeed. You tried to extort someone. I'm surprised you weren't banned to be honest.
Nope. Maybe it is time to look at some court documents. Quite sad, although it fits the personality.
There we go: You absolutely have no valid reason to leave such a rating. Now we see the true intentions here. Playing the victim and setting up the play field for a false negative rating. Make it less obvious, will you? I'd expect theymos to easily see through these recent events and the actual intent behind them.
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Well there is my word...
If it's your word against Lauda's, I think that anyone without ulterior motives would be against you. Here is where you are wrong my friend. Lauda has not disputed what I am saying. In fact he made it clear he will not answer without more evidence. When did you stop beating your wife? Are you sure that was Quickseller and not someone else  The cat has it both ways because I do not have any evidence.
FTFY. |
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Which part is not true?
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Seems all of it is 100% true. Which part of my repeated attempts to help you do you dispute?
Let's see. When BG4 left you negative trust and ruined your rating, I stepped in to work it out and restore your trust.
Lie. At the time BG4 was not anywhere near DT2 while I was. My rating ruined his reputation while his rating was just burred among other untrusted negative ratings that I've received. When you were kicked out of the slack group I begged them to let you back in.
Um, alright? While I do not know about which time you are exactly talking about (several quits/kicks/whatever), nobody asked you to do this nor did you do me a favor by doing this. When you were hurting for income I gave you the idea for ACE.
Lie. I was never hurting for income. While it is in fact true that the original idea spun out of a discussion, it's much more than what the original described. When you didn’t understand how NastyFans worked, I gave you a free seat out of my pocket.
Relevance? Could have sent me something more useful if you actually wanted to help. -snip- You belong in jail.
Yawn, that was very predictable. Since you are digging in my past, how about we dig into yours? Don't be a hypocrite, either apply the same principle to yourself or don't apply it to me either. Against newbies? You really are a fucking idiot.
You were silenced by the exclusion[1], thus the only thing left is to receive a negative. Watch out.  Why don’t you give one example of a public serious conversation about one of your trust ratings from the past month?
There wasn't a single serious complaint, thus a serious conversation couldn't have occurred. I think this statement proves my point pretty well. Again, you are very delusional. It proves the exact opposite. Two examples that visualize this correctly: A busted account trader making a complaint is not a serious conversation. Ibminer making a complaint is a serious conversation. You making a complaint -> we need to call a rodent exterminator. Vod making a complaint -> serious conversation. Get it now?
[1] #ThrowBack: Quickseller complaining about silencing via the usage of the trust system (2016 or 2017; not sure anymore). Quickseller does not complain about this now as it fits his narrative and is done by others.  |
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People what's happening here? ! Three words: The scammers' vindication. |
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Why don’t you give one example of a public serious conversation about one of your trust ratings from the past month?
There wasn't a single serious complaint, thus a serious conversation couldn't have occurred. I never spoke ill of OgNasty or Tomatocage. However, I have stated that Quackseller is a troll and a scammer, which I firmly believe. So Og and Tomatocage excluding me from their lists? Hmmm.
You said it yourself, you've fixed most of the ratings that theymos didn't agree with (or type of rating). That leaves the following options: a) You often agree with me (and/or have me in your trust list). b) The account traders/farmers and other type of stuff you leave negatives for.
I'll let you take a guess. 50% chance you're right. |
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This problem is exaggerated when lauda refuses to have any kind of public discussion about his ratings when they are disputed.
This is, obviously, a blatant lie. You’re so delusional. |
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This constant war you’ve been trying to wage on me for nearly two years now...
Maybe you should take a look in the mirror with the following statement as the above is a vigorous lie. See, you’re so delusional. Obviously nobody should be valuing your opinion.
You'd need to do a bit more than grill some dogs to be worthy of a "two year war". Your advertisers (Gunbot anyone)
You mean how I became the second in command (arguably first [1]) for Gunbot? Sounds right. -snip-
The rest are just either blatant misinterpretations or lies ("hurting for income"?) about the past. The people reading this don't even know what you're talking about, and those that do have been excluded from the trust system.  When you gave me reason after reason to leave you negative trust, I always gave you the benefit of the doubt.
You absolutely have no valid reason to leave such a rating. Now we see the true intentions here. Playing the victim and setting up the play field for a false negative rating. Make it less obvious, will you? I'd expect theymos to easily see through these recent events and the actual intent behind them.
Now, back to the recent events. The DT2 active members were lacking in number anyways, but were somewhat properly distributed in *protecting* several sections of the forum. The only remaining active user for Scam Accusations/Reputation and other shady action (sales, farming, abuse) is actmyname and there are a few that occasionally act (Vod, ibminer && similar). cryptodevil and suchmoon were/are active in the Altcoin section (and a few others). All three of them are 1 exclusion away from being kicked. If TC follows OgNasty's exclusion (again), then the only remaining section with *some protection* would the Lending section where Vod is very active (and wherever actmyname *roams* assuming he doesn't get excluded for [insertInvalidRandomReason]). We've almost reached the Utopia for scammers. Keep up the marvelous work. I'm sure the trio will be thanked by many legitimate shady members.
[1] Depending on how you view a feline-to-human marriage, I am arguably first in command. |
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There is a fundamental flaw in the centralized trust system, i.e. the the centralizing factor (the person). Theymos does not act as frequently as he should, i.e. he does not act swiftly on obvious collusion as is in the recent case. Either decentralize it in a way, or act more frequently and more vigorously.
Therefore, yes it is battlefield between users trying to clean this place up and users who only care about their own profit. It is not going to change anytime soon (see above).
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When you attack reputable users and spread lies, you shouldn’t be surprised when people stop valuing your opinion. There is no conspiracy here. People are getting sick of the bullying. Period. This is the trust system working.
I'm not sure which one is cuter/sadder, that you think: a) You're a reputable user. b) That this is an example of the system working. 
If you believe this to be the case, make a thread to test your own and owlcatz' reputation and see what happens. Of course you wouldn't do that, inferiority is hard to overcome. |
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Here is a comprehensive list of all the things you’re entitled to on a forum owned and operated by someone else:
# list begins here
# list ends here
You received a merit point for understanding and spreading that statement.
Any self-entitled, spoiled brat that comes on this forum is just making this place worse in 99% of the cases. OP is a fine example of this. Both an account trader and shitposter. |
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I was not planning on going through that Russian list of shady baboons that was sent to me as it is no longer my business, but here have a well-deserved negative rating.
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Maybe tomatoface is banging QS's mum? Then QS found out and got to do some dirty work for OG?
Sounds about right! And you both where on DT? Unbelievable! Neither one of them was on DT, and making such statements =/= unfit for DT. |
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