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3721  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 15, 2020, 08:53:59 PM
the fuck is a WAXP?

Novo's puppy.

the funny thing is, it all depends on how much free cash you have.
Example: let's say you (or Novo, lol) bought $10 mil of a s--t token. the token went from $3 to 1c, so your stake is worth almost nothing.
No matter, you buy another $10mil worth at 1c (there are enough tokens to do that), s--t token goes to 8c, you sell at 7c and MADE 50mil in profit.
The above scenario is purely hypothetical, of course.
3722  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTS] T17e, price lowered on: February 14, 2020, 06:43:48 PM
For sale: Bitmain Antminer T17e 53 Th/s

Working fine, was in US at the hosting center that was closed, hence the sale.
Item is 2-3 mo old, was hosted in air conditioned space.
Taxes and shipping from China were already paid on all items.

Price for T17e 53 Th/s is $1147 $1200 $1250 $1400 $1550 (in btc)

T17e uses 2915W according to Bitmain (needs 220-240V outlets, two of them).

I will be paying for shipping to you, but only FEDEX ground. If you want faster for some reason, then you pay for the difference in rates (same goes for Canada if you want it there). Canadian shipping is very expensive (about $150-160 USD for 2 wk ground for each miner).
Of course, escrow is fine with philipma1957 or Ognasty, but you pay it, otherwise rely on my priors here (I never stiffed anyone).

Please post here or send PM.
This is a self-moderated thread and I might delete the comment(s) that I deem irrelevant.
EDIT: updated on April 30.
EDIT: price reduced (May 3)
EDIT: price lowed (May 11)
3723  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2020, 05:01:14 AM
Maaan...many cough around here, all probably with regular cold (as winter got suddenly colder), but it's difficult not to be paranoid these days.
If 42days is correct, then you would almost never know the source.
3724  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2020, 03:52:50 AM
Its peaking too early dam it.    I had 11500 I think and its perhaps even within a channel to gain this.    So that means if true we either follow that channel which is overly aggressive as said or we break the channel which can reset possibly down to 8k and will it reset reconstruct and regain 11500 before and on the day of halvening.   The odds are against me being even close I guess, I got the price on the previous grand list also just not the day required  Cry
  Drawn with crayons by toddlers addled with mt.dew

I share your concern for a premature parabolic rise. I doubt it would be good.

Well, 38% drawdown from here is 6400, 30% down is approx $7200.
If we are in a bull (and most likely, we are), then it's unlikely to drop below these numbers.
Plus, s-coins are going crazy. Can it all evaporate? Possible, but unlikely.
3725  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 12, 2020, 03:45:50 AM
the fuck is HBAR ?

got some?..I lulz-bought a few at 3c, then it went to 1c, checked today-I am in plus, double lol.
i consider all these extra curricular activities a way to eventually pad the account in btc.
I believe woonomic who calls them oscillators
https://twitter.com/woonomic/status/1192316103508148224?lang=en

You buy oscillator (or don't buy, who cares) when it's waning, sell when it is waxing.
3726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 11, 2020, 02:21:57 AM

Pretty much what we’ve discussed here ourselves, including the numbers there.

What do you think buddy, what’s your estimated top of this coming bull run?

I feel a little bit more bullish than that.
In mic's contest I voted for 25,000 by halving. This means ATH before halving, this is going to be a little bit stretchted seeing where are we stand right now.
However, we know how it happens: slowly at start, then all of a sudden.

This can be achieved if there's a daily gain of 1.1% on the BTC/USD price.

Not impossible, but if it happens, it will probably be as you say, slow --> sudden. Regardless, I think 2020 will be a good year for Bitcoin, with 2021 breaking 6 figures. The main thing is not to reach it, but to sustain it.

I'd say, keep HoDLing throughout '20-'21 at least.

This is fine.

Don't mean to be a party poop..... well maybe I do?

What if the BTC price shoots up to $85k-ish by the end of 2020... but then corrects back down to $25k for the duration of 2021 and maybe into 2022... then what are the HODLer "waiting to sell some BTC" peeps gonna do when king daddy does not perform up to expectations?  

Maybe they start to feel that they did not sell enough BTC on the way up to $85k-ish? or they did not sell any?
 and then they feel that they missed the opportunity, again?  

Maybe even having to wait a few more years for the next price splurger into 2023-25--?   who knows... patterns can be broken, no?  Perhaps?  Perhaps?

How about this strategy:

I assume that 80-100K btc next cycle medium is correct.
Why correct? Because at the same S2F as gold in the next cycle, I don't see why btc cannot have a 20-25% of gold's market cap (at the minimum).

If above is correct, then btc would fluctuate around that number (sometimes out-performing, sometimes under-performing).
Use whatever multiplier you think is likely to describe such under/out performance.
If such multiplier is 3X, then it is 240K-300K at the peak, 27-33K at the trough.
If multiplier is 2X, then 160K-200K at the peak, 40-50K at the trough.
No multiplier-just sell some at 80-100K when it gets there.
Divide your "selling stash" into three equal parts.
Sell one at 80-100, second at 160-200 (if it gets there), third at 240-300K (if it gets there).
Then, wait for either 27-33K or 40-50K trough and possibly re-buy there or simply enjoy it.
Average of all three would be approximately $180K (not bad!)


3727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 10, 2020, 12:12:56 AM
What's the best defence against a nocoiner: burning oil, flaming arrows, a good ol' pitchfork?

(I know some nancy-boy will respond with knowledge and fine argument!)


I currently own just over 200k sats. I hope that qualifies me as not being a nocoiner. I prefer not to be impaled, burned or mutilated by wo people. Shocked

That's 30% below each earthlings's average (locoiner status).
shape up to at least 300K sats...or not.
 Grin

Gents I have some suggestions to help us get to 13k in an orderly fashion with few interuptions. Not too fast is the best way to move forward.



Once 13k reached, unleash TRC Trifecta of trains, rockets, and Carolina.

Trifecta should propel us to 14k and then we can dip a bit for the latecomers.


when Kathleen's bike?
3728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2020, 08:21:51 PM
Opinion: Buffett would buy btc when it would be about 500bil (that's his trigger point, see AAPL), pushing it almost singlehandedly to 1.5tril.
CBs would do the rest.
3729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 09, 2020, 08:13:16 PM
Don't get mad at Luc.

He doesn't say it is going go to $6k without any conditions.

He says it will happen if it stays under $11k which is a pretty valid guess imo. I'll buy more tomorrow to help to invalidate this TA. If you want the same thing, you should too.

This thing won't go to $100k by itself, somebody has to buy it from $10k and $20k... $60k... and all the way up to $100k. Believe it or not, Some will even buy it at $100k.

This time BTC is going to $350-$450k so LOTS of peeps are going to jump in at $100k and further up.  Cool

Bruh, I think 350-450k might be a bit ambitious for this cycle. That kind of price will come in 2025 or something a year after the 2024 halving.

Just my opinion but obviously would love you to be right.

Maybe, but I have penciled in $70K-357K range ($350 is at the border, obviously) based on prior stats.
The median of $70-357K is about $213K, which is my best case scenario for the moment.
S2F predicted 6K level for the last cycle, we went about 3-3.5 times that in 2017.
If $100K is the average for the next cycle, then 300-350K is a similar size spike (followed by a 'plunge' to about $50-60k at the local bottom).
3730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2020, 03:28:20 AM
By doubling I was simply referring to last year (2019) with a desire to see the trend continuing sans large spikes and drawdowns.
3731  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 08, 2020, 01:40:13 AM
Why can't we just enjoy the bull market, which can take many different paths.
As long as I am doubling my fiat equivalent each year, I am more than happy (delighted).
I hope that we don't have to surge, then collapse EVERY freaking time (so far thrice we went down more than 80% in the complete four year cycle).
3732  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain Introduces the S17+ and T17+ on: February 06, 2020, 04:57:42 AM
Well, the demand does not mean the price is realistic. I was personally searching for coupons 2 weeks prior to expiry all the way to last day since that is when they are cheapest...

That's funny because I was selling my coupons twice in that period and my posts stayed there for days.
3733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2020, 05:07:33 AM

Cite?

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/evolution/library/04/4/l_044_02.html

If I am not mistaken we share something like 90% with almost everything except mushrooms and mollusks

not quite, but we do share protein-coding regions with mice at 85% (only 50% for non-protein coding regions which are more prominent in the genome).
We, humans, do have an interesting group of genes that determine the brain size (microcephalin or MCPH1 is a prime example).
This gene, and in particularly, haplotype D, is associated with increased brain size as we moved from hominids to current humans, suggesting a selective sweep. Planet of the apes anyone?
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/613277/chinese-scientists-have-put-human-brain-genes-in-monkeysand-yes-they-may-be-smarter/

here you go again...
3734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2020, 04:35:41 AM
"The way we work is killing us" aka "Dying for a paycheck".

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-way-we-work-is-killing-us

Quote
The Economist magazine ran this interesting chart in which they show productivity on one axis and work hours on the other. There’s this nice linear negative relationship—the more hours a country’s working, the lower the productivity.

These studies have been done at the industry level as well and show the same thing. So the idea that you’ve got to work all these crazy hours in order to be productive is just not true. It’s completely empirically incorrect. Same with layoffs. They don’t benefit companies. Job control and micromanaging doesn’t benefit companies. So we’ve created a lose-lose situation in which people are suffering and companies aren’t benefiting.

Quote
...why workers are so stressed out in the first place—management practices like long work hours, unpredictable schedules, toxic bosses, and after-hours emails.
3735  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2020, 02:57:38 AM
An official version:

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2012-7

Quote
Furthermore, it was found that 2019-nCoV is 96% identical at the whole-genome level to a bat coronavirus.

I don't have time to read it carefully, maybe during the weekend.
From a first look at the abstract, unless there are clear areas where you can see the other 4% being of artificial/or other source origin, the idea that it is an artificial construct appears to have little support. In artificial construct, there would be larger areas of little sequence similarity, i would think.
Again, keep digging, maybe there would be a sudden revelation re other 4%.
3736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 05, 2020, 02:47:43 AM
buy Tesla...derp.

Why WS bobbleheads always whine about btc, but when a stocks goes up 20% every day for what, 5-6 day now, then it is totally cool.
Stock market has become positively insane. Bitcoin is the oasis of sanity.
3737  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2020, 04:13:55 AM
Hey, what about bitcoin? Commodities are declining rapidly, yet gold and bitcoin stay the course so far.
I think that if western markets would be largely stable tomorrow, so would be btc as well.
waiting for the stock market bounce to do anything.
BTW, despite all those gap ups in trillion $ companies (AAPL, AMZN), SP500 in US is negative for the year.
3738  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2020, 03:45:16 AM
Asia limit down

wow

China is down 8.2%, HSI (Hong Kong) is up a little, paradoxically.
3739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 03, 2020, 03:16:04 AM
some weirdness in price aka premature eruption.
3740  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: February 02, 2020, 09:42:43 PM
Do geese see God?
Top spot

Q: why GAATTC is a part of a palindrome?
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