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3721  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 21, 2017, 12:06:05 AM
Could you please refer me the most well-documented articles that debate Layer2 scaling solutions?
I'm trying to grasp the position of both Layer2 opponents and supporters. Not kidding.

Nothing wrong with Layer 2 scaling solutions. However, Layer 1 also needs maximization. Which Core refuses to do. Accordingly, the market will soon route around them.
3722  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 21, 2017, 12:04:23 AM
You guys dont understand one Think.. Bitcoin its the base of the price If he fails ALL coins Will fail.

You don't understand one Think. The only thing that makes Bitcoin Segwit and not Bitcoin Cash the real Bitcoin is the accumulated proof of work. Once miners have expended more hashpower on Bitcoin Cash than Bitcoin Segwit, then Bitcoin Cash becomes the real Bitcoin.

TL;DR Bitcoin will not fail.
3723  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: The Bitcoin vs Bitcoin Cash battle! on: December 20, 2017, 11:52:51 PM
A very interesting report about the two coins. You will be amazed of what you will find in the background profile of the main figures behind Bitcoin Cash.

https://medium.com/@MiguelCuneta_21450/the-big-bitcoin-battle-what-i-found-out-about-bitcoin-vs-bcash-d9ebca8d370

That article has been throughly debunked over and over again. Dismays me really, as Cuneta is otherwise usually a pretty sage voice. But he either has grave misconceptions about Bitcoin Cash, or he is lying through his teeth.
3724  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 20, 2017, 11:51:03 PM
gavin is the currupted man who bought private keys from satoshi for cheap now he is on verge of doing never ending curruption.

Where do you come up with this unmitigated bullshit?
3725  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 20, 2017, 11:47:26 PM
Have fun with that:

http://txhighway.com/

Haha! Freeking genius. Funny as all getout. And a useful tool besides.
3726  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 20, 2017, 11:40:10 PM
I address all opponents of Layer2 mechanisms.

Bitcoin transaction protocol is very similar to roads.

Just no. Bitcoin transaction protocol is absolutely nothing like roads. Unfortunately, that makes the remainder of your 'reasoning' irrelevant.
3727  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 11:14:40 PM
You are one of the lucky ones to have an existing bitfinex account.

There may soon come a day when the lucky ones are the ones without a bitfinex account.
3728  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 11:13:25 PM
Perhaps Utility trumps hubris?

Whatever your thoughts are... spam , attacks from Bitcoin Cash on core etc. Core brought this about on them selves. Let the market decide. The mere fact that core is vulnerable to these type of attacks tells you something!

One thing pointed out yesterday was the market for gold is 6-9 trillion . The market for cash is over 100 trillion.

You are still spouting out a lot of fuzzy logic in your attempts to make equivalencies between bcash and bitcoin... leads to bad conclusions, too. 



zing!
3729  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 11:02:44 PM
 Its a failure in competition perhaps, every capitalist system relies on any business can enter that domain and introduce innovation and receive some part of the production revenue.

You speak as if there is some implacable barrier to entry in the ASIC space. At least two recent entrants (should indeed they make it to market) prove you wrong.
3730  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 10:58:04 PM
What's the most annoying about the BCash shills, is they weren't behind it in the beginning. They were all preaching first XT, then BU, then SegWit2X. When SegWit2X failed to even launch, suddenly BCash became "The one true coin" literally overnight. And then they touted that lack of SegWit was a feature that they supported all along!

This is how I know their supporters are full of shit. They're not behind anything at all. They are just "anti-Bitcoin" trolls that want to see Bitcoin centralized and controlled. BCash was literally propped up so that Bitcoin could have a fake enemy. Otherwise it would have none.

Cool - I guess I am not viewed by yourself as  'Bcash shill' then. I have been nothing but consistent that on-chain scaling has been needed - for over a year. As I think is the case for most of us that earlier supported XT and BU.

And yes, lack of segwit is indeed a plus.
3731  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 10:55:14 PM
jbreher, go cuddle with Roger. But please don't rage quit.

Rage quit? Not on your life.

Yesterday, the dollar value of my BCH surpassed that of my BTC. Not as a result of any significant reduction in the value of BTC, but rather as a result of the increase in value of my BCH.

I couldn't be happier. See? ->  Cheesy
3732  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 10:33:30 PM
Except HITbtc are criminals who ran a Bitcoin Unlimited fraud

To what, exactly, are you referring?
3733  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 06:37:14 PM
Yeah. everyone thought coinbase was releasing the BCH in Janaury, as they announced before.

Not everybody. I'm pretty sure their announcement was 'by January'.
3734  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 06:26:31 PM
Some time ago, I  invested in dogecoin. Since then, my DOGE was up 20x when i sold. Can you please do the maths on how doge is superior to your bcash 

Tell me your purchase date and we can perhaps compare apples to apples.
3735  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 06:19:54 PM
Get real.

Bitcoin has been under attack multiple times because it is a target for a lot of hostilities, whether from Bcash or other various sources,

Get real.

Bitcoin Segwit is not under attack by Bitcoin Cash. Rather, Bitcoin Cash is competing with Bitcoin Segwit in the marketplace.

Then how would you explain such ridiculous terms as "Operation DragonSlayer"? As you can imagine, Bitcoin is the "dragon" here and Bitcoin Cash is its "slayer". Pretty aggressive tone.

Provocative names are used to build a sense of esprit de corps. Would you have felt better if the loosely-organized (more like unorganized) initiative was named 'Operation Enduring Freedom'?
3736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 06:17:16 PM
I meant stupid in the sense of it being a relatively useless and absolute dead end coin. In light of its inevitable future one would have to be stupid to actually have it and believe in it.

But nonetheless, congratulations on your short term profit. Dump that shit soon, though.

I sense a grave disappointment and a grave disillusionment in your future. All due to your myopic misunderstanding of the value of Bitcoin Cash. Oh well - c'est la guerre.
3737  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 06:14:03 PM
Fungibility ... means the object in reference can't just randomly transform from an elephant to a flamingo.  

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Fungibility is simply the property that any unit of some substance is functionally equivalent to all other units of that substance.

Don't play stupid.  You know damn well bitcoin is not fungible

Not perfectly fungible, no. Can you name anything that is? Other than XMR and relatives, and ZEC and relatives, nothing comes close. Certainly neither PMs nor fiat.

Bitcoin Segwit is certainly at least a two-set system as far as fungibility goes. Bitcoin Cash is much better on the fungibility scale. It at least is not a two-set system.

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nor money by definition

Incorrect. Your repeated assertions of this have been supported by insufficient evidence.

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, and that an "evolving protocol" is also never going to be fungible

To the extent that the units are indistinguishable from each other, they are perfectly fungible. Yes, as long as there is a way to distinguish, then they are to some degree infungible. And to be pedantic, any measure of infungibility means 'not fungible' (again, what is?). But the protocol change has absolutely nothing to do with this. When the protocol changes, all the units change in the exact same manner.
3738  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Fork 1:1 of Bitcoin - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees on: December 20, 2017, 07:29:24 AM
why btc is dumping and roger coin is rising  Huh

BTC is not dumping. If you think a gentle -13% setback is 'dumping', you're gonna have a hard time here in cryptoland. BTC is merely retracing a bit. Quit panicking. After a several-X rise in short order, it is only to be expected.

I don't know any roger coin. If you really mean to ask why Bitcoin Cash is rising, it is because Bitcoin Cash provides all the utility that Bitcoin Segwit provides, plus Bitcoin Cash also supports all the utility that Bitcoin used to provide, before Core threw it overboard in their insane Raspberry Pi fetish.
3739  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 07:22:16 AM
Who would actually be stupid enough to actually buy Bcash? lol

Some time ago, I traded a large percentage of my BTC for BCH. Since then, my BCH is up 12x. From that time, my BTC is up too. By a whole 6x.

Stupid indeed.

I'd ask you to do the math, but you may be too busy calling others stupid to be able to compute 6 into 12.
3740  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: December 20, 2017, 07:17:13 AM
Fungibility ... means the object in reference can't just randomly transform from an elephant to a flamingo.  

idonothinkthatwordmeanswhatyouthinkitmeans.png

Fungibility is simply the property that any unit of some substance is functionally equivalent to all other units of that substance.
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