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3721  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Questions about The White Papers on: February 04, 2013, 04:45:11 AM
I don't understand what digital code represents a Bitcoin. I do no understand this statement from The White Papers

"Each owner transfers the coin to the next by digitally signing a hash of the previous transaction and the public key of the next owner
and adding these to the end of the coin."

Does that mean an infinite amount of numbers are added to the end of the coin? I doubt this to be true but why isn't it? Again, what is then the original number that the "hash" is added onto?
"We define an electronic coin as a chain of digital signatures." There is a helpful diagram in the paper explaining the concept. If Alice has a coin and wants to give it to Bob, she takes the transaction in which she received the coin, adds Bob's public key to it, and digitally signs it to create a new transaction. Then if Bob wants to give it to Charlie, he takes this new transaction and adds Charlie's public key to it and signs it. And so on. That's what it means to create a chain of digital signatures. Anyone can prove that Charlie is now the legitimate owner of the coin because they can verify (with Bob's public key) that Bob signed it over to Charlie. And we know that Bob was the legitimate owner before Charlie because Alice signed it over to Bob. (How the very first owner got the coin is addressed later in the paper.)

What's the algorithm the hash uses and how was this determined?
SHA-256. All hashing in Bitcoin is SHA-256 (except for addresses, which use RIPEMD-160 as well).

What about the timestamp server? The timestamp server takes a hash of a block(or group of transactions) and publishes it but how can it be deduced from the hash what block it refers to?
Because the chances of two valid blocks having the same hash are so astronomical that anyone who suggests it's anything less than impossible will be laughed at. If you have a hash, and you have a block with the same hash, you can bet your life that that is the block the hash refers to.

Finally, does a block contain only one transaction?
No. You were right the first time:
The timestamp server takes a hash of a block(or group of transactions)
3722  Economy / Economics / Re: How banks works on: February 03, 2013, 11:53:38 PM
When Bitcoin takes over in the future, my children and I will play Monopoly with actual US dollars, so I wont have to worry about them ripping, losing, or slobbering all over the useless paper money
that comes with the game...

 Cheesy

Assuming Milton Bradley stays with the same denominations..  anybody care to predict when the monopoly dollar passes the US dollar in value? 
I was just thinking of that. A standard Monopoly set originally contained $15,140, but that was increased in 2008 to $20,580. At that time, about 250 million sets had been sold, and since then about 3 million were sold per year. So the Monopoly money supply in 2008 was $3.785 trillion, increasing by about $62 billion per year, for an annual inflation rate of 1.6%. Since a Monopoly set costs about $15, one US dollar currently buys 1,372 Monopoly dollars. Assuming an inflation rate of 9.6% for the US dollar (based on increasing gold prices since Nixon abolished the gold standard because the CPI is useless) and that Hasbro keeps printing money at its current rate, the Monopoly dollar will achieve parity with the US dollar in just under 100 years. Grin
3723  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What fonts are needed to display the funny characters in #bitcoin-watch on: February 03, 2013, 10:52:46 PM
One capable of displaying Tonal digits, such as this font. Blame Luke-Jr for this.
3724  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New account, how can I PM a user? on: February 03, 2013, 10:47:01 PM
Unfortunately some newbies don't read the T&C part where it states the restrictions involved. Theymos should put it in big red letters.  Cheesy

Not enough, it should also be flashing to catch the necessary attention:


LOL great gif. However, there's bound to be people who 'miss' it anyway...  Cry
Such as those who grew up in the days before AdBlock and trained themselves to subconsciously ignore colourful flashing banners?

3725  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: A more environmentally friendly currency? on: February 03, 2013, 09:23:37 PM
Good point, but can't I leave that bit to the geniuses who invented Bitcoin?!
Not to put too fine a point on it, but no, you can't. You claim that the current system is bad and that your alternative is better, yet you don't actually have the faintest idea how the system works, what requirements it must meet, or even how to implement your alternative. You'll get no support from anyone until you take the time to understand what Bitcoin is and how it works and what technical problems it needs to address, and can explain in detail exactly how your alternative is supposed to work.
3726  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin price in 5 years - 2/2013 on: February 03, 2013, 08:19:00 AM
3 oz AU
3727  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Old wallet.dat now empty, can't recover? on: February 02, 2013, 08:16:41 AM
You're looking at a brand new wallet, not your old one. Two possibilities: you didn't copy the old one into the correct directory, and/or you copied the wrong wallet entirely. Remember, each user account gets their own wallet, so if you logged into your virtual machine as a different user to the user who mined the coins (eg, Administrator when you weren't logged on as Administrator when you were mining), you'll be looking at an empty wallet. What operating system(s) are you using?
3728  Bitcoin / Armory / Re: Armory - Discussion Thread on: February 02, 2013, 05:06:11 AM
I do this by adding "connect=xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" to my bitcoin.conf file. It prevents all connections except to the IP addresses specified.
FTFY. You can have as many connect= lines as you need. Adding connect=127.0.0.1 should do the trick.
3729  Economy / Speculation / Re: You shall not pass 27 on: February 02, 2013, 01:22:38 AM
Unless you really think we're going to see negative prices by 2015, stop drawing straight lines on a linear chart. Roll Eyes
3730  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: This 51% numbers kills everything! on: February 01, 2013, 04:16:25 PM
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The 51% attack cannot "collapse the whole system"
Yes it can, with a 51% attack bitcoin becomes instantly useless.
It becomes instantly useful again the moment the attack ceases.

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They can only fraudulently reverse or modify their own transactions, not anyone else's. They can (temporarily) prevent other people's transactions from being confirmed, but not modify them in any way or reverse transactions which were already confirmed before the attack
What? With a 51% attack you can replace the current blockchain with your! And that blockchain can for example start being modified since a year ago. This means that since a year ago all the blocks were found by the attacker. This means that he own all these bitcoins and that no other transaction has been confirmed since then. You mined your coin 6 months ago and spent them? No more, he mined these coins! Not you! So your transaction disappear. It never existed.
That would require a lot more than 51% to do in any reasonable timeframe. For example, to rewrite 1 year of transaction history within 1 year would require 67% of the hashing power. That's a whole year of continuous mining with double the hashing power of the rest of the network before you can even begin your attack. And that's assuming no checkpoints. With checkpoints, such an attack is completely and utterly impossible.

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the attackers can only do anything during the time they are actively mining with 51% of the hashing power
This rely on your hope that the attack eventually would stop. Why it should? After a government start the computers, it can leave them attacking for whatever time it want!
The attack will stop if legitimate miners can upgrade their equipment faster than the government does (which the government has to constantly pay for). Also, I didn't know the government got free electricity.

Yes, if the attack stop then we can fix everything (lot of people keep a backup of the current blockchain). But that is a big if!
Double spends can't be fixed by reverting to a back-up blockchain, but apart from that (which is probably not a major problem anyway, since nobody will trust any transactions that occur during the attack), nothing will need fixing anyway. As disruptive as a 51% attack would be, the disruption is only temporary (though even a temporary disruption might still be economically disastrous).
3731  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: This 51% numbers kills everything! on: February 01, 2013, 09:03:53 AM
You've got some more reading to do.

The 51% attack cannot "collapse the whole system", and in fact attackers are very limited in what kinds of damage they can do. They can only fraudulently reverse or modify their own transactions, not anyone else's. They can (temporarily) prevent other people's transactions from being confirmed, but not modify them in any way or reverse transactions which were already confirmed before the attack. They cannot steal other people's coins (except for sending his own coins and taking them back), and cannot create coins out of thin air. Such an attack would also be extremely obvious and users would be warned not to perform any transactions until it is clear the attack has stopped.

Also, the attackers can only do anything during the time they are actively mining with 51% of the hashing power. As soon as they stop mining, or if legitimate miners summon enough resources to regain the majority of the mining power, the network will resume normal operation, all transactions which the attacker blocked would soon start being confirmed, and it'll be almost as though nothing had ever happened.

That's not to say such the 51% attack is nothing to worry about. It would cause a total (but temporary) disruption of all Bitcoin services and probably a loss of faith in the currency resulting in a massive price crash, and it may take a long time to recover, but it's not the end of the world either.
3732  Other / Meta / Re: No more icons? on: February 01, 2013, 01:25:34 AM
Can I turn off all avatars?
Yes.
3733  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Profitability of mining? on: February 01, 2013, 01:06:06 AM
So how much can I make with a normal single PC in a day or 2? say a dual core 3.0Ghz machine,
Depending on your graphics card (the CPU is useless for mining), you might make a penny or two per day, minus the increased electricity cost of constantly running your computer at full load. Unless you have very cheap electricity, you'll be making a net loss.

Is it more feasible to collect bitcoins through free bitcoin advertising sites or to mine them yourself?
Probably, unless you're willing to spend some money on more specialised mining equipment (FPGAs or ASICs).

Also where can I buy bitcoins in stupidly small amounts like £1 (GBP), £5 etc? Does a service for this exist yet?
Don't know, sorry.

Also when you print bitcoin money it has the private key on it right? does the printing of that private key compromise the whole wallet or just that payment address?
If you're talking about a paper backup of your wallet, allowing anyone else to see it compromises the whole wallet. If you're talking about PrintCoins or Casascius coins and other such things intended to be circulated as cash, then only the address is "compromised", but you want it to be compromised: the idea is that people who receive such bills and coins can use the private key to transfer the bitcoins to their (digital) wallet, after which the bill/coin is worthless and is taken out of circulation.

and what effect does it have on the blockchain, will people printing bitcoins and taking them out of digital circulation ultimately ruin bitcoin?
The blockchain will have fewer transactions, as people conduct some transactions offline, but the bitcoins won't stay offline forever (see above). You might as well ask, "Will people withdrawing cash from their bank accounts ultimately ruin banks?", to which the answer is no, because the cash almost always gets deposited again at some point. Note also that lost or destroyed bitcoins are not a problem, as this simply has the result of increasing the value of all remaining bitcoins (slightly decreased supply + same demand), and bitcoins can be divided to 8 decimal places. Even if so many bitcoins were lost that only a tiny fraction of a bitcoin remained, the economy would still function just fine on that fraction of a bitcoin.
3734  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Solo mining with bitcoin-qt on: January 31, 2013, 02:34:58 PM
I see there "cgminer.exe". That indicates a Windows program. Is there a cgminer for Linux?
Yes.
3735  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bits and Pieces on: January 31, 2013, 11:52:53 AM
For example, a piece of the NY Fed will bring in far more than a piece of the St Louis Fed.

I thought the St Louis Federal Reserve Bank has a history of more prudent action than the others.
Which is exactly why it is worth less. For a central bank, "prudent action" and "making money" are mutually exclusive.
3736  Economy / Speculation / Re: Forthcoming Bitcoin article in Emirates Airlines in-flight magazine on: January 31, 2013, 07:05:38 AM
Check out page 9 after the yacht ads. This demographic being advertised to knows whats up and why they don't want other nosy people in their business.
you talking about the Virtual Offices?

No, that is rookie stuff. I am talking about the stuff by CMC on page 9.
Huh That's page 7, not page 9.
3737  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Solo mining with bitcoin-qt on: January 30, 2013, 11:46:18 PM
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He's talking about Bitcoin-Qt's rarely-used (and for good reason) built-in miner
It was removed more than a year ago if i remember well.
You remember incorrectly. Only the option in the GUI was removed, due to its uselessness. The miner is still present, presumably for the sake of being a complete implementation of everything needed to run the Bitcoin network, and can be invoked by starting Bitcoin-Qt or bitcoind with the gen option (either as a command line argument or in the configuration file), or with the RPC command setgenerate true (and setgenerate false stops mining, of course).
3738  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Solo mining with bitcoin-qt on: January 30, 2013, 09:13:17 PM
Yes, but it only uses your CPU, not your graphics card, and is therefore completely useless (which is why the option was removed from the GUI). It will take you many years or even decades to find a block this way, if ever. If you actually hope to ever make even a small amount of bitcoins, download a real miner such as cgminer and join a pool.

What? About what option are you speaking about?

To solo mine (bad idea anyway lol) you need to run qt as server
He's talking about Bitcoin-Qt's rarely-used (and for good reason) built-in miner. Running as a server is not required when mining this way, though it is an astoundingly bad idea.
3739  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Buying gold with Bitcoins? on: January 30, 2013, 01:14:54 PM
Spending bitcoins is what helps the community, trading it for usd, not so much.
What's the difference? How is buying and selling dollars fundamentally different from buying and selling anything else? Moreover, if nobody traded bitcoins for dollars, where would new users (which is what the community really needs) obtain them in the first place?
3740  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: transaction fee question on: January 30, 2013, 03:54:49 AM
Who receives the fees?
Miners receive the transaction fees in additional to newly mined bitcoins. This is to ensure that mining (which is necessary for the security of the network) will still continue even after all 21 million bitcoins have been mined, with mining then being supported entirely by transaction fees.

Is this an income opportunity?
Yes, anyone can mine, though powerful hardware is required if you expect to make a decent amount, and you have to consider your electricity costs as well. Mining is not a get-rich-quick scheme, and in fact you are likely to make a net loss unless you have very cheap electricity or specialised mining hardware.
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