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It highly depends on the campaign managers, some managers accepts and some don't the higher ranks for lower rank positions.
When the user itself ready to accept the lower rank payments then there is nothing to debate about it but IMHO the managers will look for other ranks only if there is no deserving rank in the announced rank.
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No, I did not get it in my wallet so I could never have withdrawn it. I only withdrew the 50% partial cashout that I took out myself for 0.13974 BTC. This means that the remaining ~0.14 BTC (disguised as a stake of 0.0672 BTC @ 2.6 odds) was left open for this match to be played out.
I could have also cashed out in full for 0.2687 BTC and instantly profited ~0.13 BTC, but I decided to let the other 50% play out for the match at better returns (2.6 vs ~2.1) assuming the player who I bet on wins the match.
It is not my fault that they themselves gave me this option and allowed me to do this, and I should not be losing thousands of dollars because of their "mistake". Especially because at this point, it was 100% within their control because it's their site, and they decided to give me this option.
Many other sites never allow any partial cashouts to be made after placing a bet (like Cloudbet or Nitrogen for example), so while they can blame betrader for giving them the "wrong" odds initially, they cannot blame them for giving me this option to cashout for the amounts I mentioned on their site.
Therefore, FortuneJack needs to take full responsibility for giving me this option and at the very least, return my stake in full if they decided to cancel my bet.
(And quite frankly, this shouldn't even be the main discussion because my whole point is that my bet should never have been canceled in the 1st place, as 80%+ of members here agree with me as well - but this is a non-negotiable)
On the particular date we are talking about 1 ETH = 0.032 BTC means 4.25ETH = 0.135 BTC approx So you actually withdrawn all the amount left in your balance and the remaining balance showed was actually an error and it wasn't your BTC, are you clear now? The cancelled your bet which is not supposed to happen but on rare occasions it is inevitable and you missed the bet actually but didn't lost, that is how you need to take this, better you take that 25% offer and get into a peace state for a while. |
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No party here did anything wrong, but FJ accusing a customer of taking advantage of a bug rather than owning up to a problem with their own system or their odds provider is damaging to their reputation. I would suggest that they retract that accusation or provide some kind of proof to back their claim.
Moreover FJ claims Epicchamp was the only one betting at the time of bug raised which is why the user thinks that he got cheated when about to win a bet. I think @EpicChamp should take the offer given by FJ and he can choose to what he wanted with it because he is claiming that he is only requesting that 0.0672 BTC to be refunded which is actually withdrew by him already. |
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Findingnemo: FortuneJack just proved with this screenshot that my 0.0672 BTC stake was not returned.
Whether this was a technical error or not, you have no right to keep my stake and it is 100% against the TOC.
So at the very least, please return my 0.0672 BTC stake back.
Thank you very much,
EpicChamp
If I Understood it correctly the amount 0.0672 was created due to the technical error on their side but later it was nullified. Means you got only 0.0672 left in your wallet and which you already withdrew it to your wallet so there is no BTC left on stake and this is what FJ wanted you to understand. @FJ only this user has faced such kind of bugs with wallet balance or many others? Because I don't find any similar case in that time frame. |
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1sMerit for 1 earned merit will nullify the merit system so it is never going to happen.
But if there is some change in the merit system then it should be from the fellow forum members while awarding merits to good posts.Some people take merits as too serious and they just keep doing anything and everything just for the sake of earning it but it should be awarded when someone see a good post.
TBH for a newbie to earn merit the standard becomes lot higher but they are supposed to have lower standard since they are just newbies?
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After I did my 50% partial cashout (which they gave me the option to do themselves), the other 50% had 0.0672 BTC remaining at 2.6 odds. ForuneJack then canceled this bet 2 hours before the match was about to start, and did not return this stake back to me (in other words, they kept it to themselves) - which is against ANY gambling TOC.
Have you ever had a situation where your bet was canceled for any reason and your money or stake wasn't returned back to you in full? I highly doubt it.
Their reasoning or decision of canceling my bet could be debatable, although it is completely wrong & unethical for many reasons that I explained earlier.
But what is NOT debatable, is them taking away my 0.0672 BTC stake and keeping it to themselves after canceling my bet. That just crosses all boundaries and is 100% against any TOC.
So at the bare minimum, they need to return my 0.0672 BTC stake (which is equivalent to $2,200 USD right now and should have been done 2 months ago).
And if they have any good morals & a sense of goodwill, then the right and noble thing for them to do in this situation is to honor my winning bet in full for 0.174 BTC, which I would greatly appreciate.
(Since this bet should have never been canceled in the 1st place and played out the normal way).
IMHO, you can't actually claim the winning bet because the bet cancelled before the 2 hours of the games (IIRC) and its the own decision of the gambling site. Now only talk about the staked amount, do you have any valid proof to claim that your bet amount never returned to you like how much balance left before that particular bet and how much you withdrew with valid proofs. Wall of text will not convince anyone. |
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I did not lose "nothing". The night before the match I had an open bet with a stake of 0.0672 BTC @ 2.6 odds that you canceled 2 hours before the match was about to start (super late), and did not return this stake back to me. So at the very least, I lost 0.0672 BTC.
Your staked bet amount was 0.0672 while the bet cancelled the bet amount was retured or not? You said you only withdrew your remaining balance but now saying you did lose nothing. Each spoortbooks has their own terms and conditions so if one did means others should not follow the same and even it changes per case to case. I don't see any DT members agrees with this case. Isn't it? |
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Initial money was sent back and has already been withdrawn by OP.
On top of that, we've already offered 25% of a deposit back as a balance - goodwill from the company for having a bug of some sort of live at the website.
IMHO, its an fair offer to be honest but @EpicChamp why you still don't want to claim that offer given by FJ. Only on rare cases gambling sites allowed the gamblers to withdraw funds if they got it from the bugs on their system but mostly company will simply cancel the bet and will quote their terms of Service so they have the right to do what they want but here they offer 25% so its good to accept and make a life with it.  |
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Avoid posting wall of text or atleast the nested quotes because people won't be interested in reading all the quoted posts and to be honest its too hard to understand. Just now entered in this thread and trying to understand your issues with FJ. You made bets but this was cancelled due to the bugs identified by the FJ but still your initial money wasn't retured?
Seems FJ said their final discussion here so you better continue to post on your thread which is on scam accusation section and stop posting about them on multiple boards. |
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Traders in paxful selling PUBG UC in the past but I can't find any active trader having such offers for now.So you can search on other p2p trading platforms for better offers but buying on third party website doesn't look like a good idea since most of them become scam or expensive that buying from google playstore so better buy with gift cards seems the best option.
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updating on my browser. unfortunately cloudfare's habit is to cache content. you can try on different browser or incognito mode.  Thanks mate, works perfectly on Brave as well as on incognito mode of other browsers. But keep looking for any bugs out there in your website and better add few more features into it will attract more people to use it for sure.  |
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Money has no religion and people from each and every religion running everyday to make that money.People who don't have any jobs are confusing the people because they talk controversial about thinks which are at the trend in the world.IIRC banking with interest rates are also haram as per Shariah law but how many people from that 1.9 Billion in this world having no interest bank account or loans.  If bitcoin is imaginary created using mathematical codes then fiat money too because it was created with paper and promised that it has some value by governments.
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Still I don't see the values are getting updated real time, I need to refresh everytime when I want to get the recommended fee for that time.
Well Now, I added real-time update, so fees will be updated in real time. Not yet, I guess.   I kept your website and Mempool space for the last 10 minutes and I see there is no chance since the last refresh in your website and for the proof look at the screenshots. |
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Bitcoin takes an average of 10 minutes to produce a block, and the transfer speed of Ethernet is obviously much faster.
Which is the lower of the handling fee between the two (e.g. all converted into RMB)?Which has a lower handling fee in the long run?
Handling fee = transaction fee? https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/charts/average-transaction-fee-usdUse the above link to analyze the average transaction fee of bitcoin, ethereum nd any other network if you want on your own. Ethereum network is much faster than bitcoin transaction speed but ethereum network is congested with useless tokens transaction which made the transaction fee of a transaction to be near $20 but with bitcoin it still stay in the $5 region even at the extreme traffic which is unlike in 2017 and people paid almost 55 dollars for a transaction. |
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If you copy someone's post or somewhere from internet and post it as your idea is what the plagiarism stands for or atleast you will be banned for it.So as others said when you are copying something then don't forget to include the links.
And my opinion will be always better to put inside the quote tags and express your own thoughts about it.
Many newbies took this as advantage and copy half of an article and paste the link below without any actual thoughts from the one who created it which also maybe treated as spam and you will get banned.
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yes, i made it real-time by automatically refreshing, will do with ajax or some javascript.
I kept your website's tab open since I replied and I didn't see the change yet. Updated it successfully or yet to be? Still I don't see the values are getting updated real time, I need to refresh everytime when I want to get the recommended fee for that time. |
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Thanks for the info. My only problem is that while posting, I might quickly look up another thread or search for similar details posted before. I understand the need to stop spam, but I think it should be 1 search every 360 seconds and 1 post every 360 seconds, not both clubbed within the same window.
This newbie restriction is not only to stop the spam but also to restrict the DDOS attack (correct me if I am wrong). Often we can see lot of websites faces attacks on a website with huge traffic from the same servers with different nodes and also happens with bitcointalk but not often these days You won't be having any issues once your crossed 15 activity which doesn't take too long bro.
If you still want to check something use the google search.  |
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And you know wallet is just an interacting tool with the blockchain so your wallet doesn't store any bitcoin in it, its stored on the blockchain and if you have the private keys then you can control your wallet and even you can switch from one wallet to another wallet with the same address you did used earlier.
Well,Finding what kind of wallet doesn't really give any further information though.
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Thanks for all the replies here, I think I understood the things right from above post(s).
The minimum value we can send in any bitcoin wallet is going to be 546 satoshis for standard transactions and it can be changed in the future or it will be the permanent limit to eliminate the blockchain spam with dust amounts?
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It is always good to check the link using any linkchecker link ScanUrl or Kaspersky Virus total by long pressing it and paste it in their scan bar.Most of the time this will gives you warning about dangerous URL which contains malicious code.
While it is always important to keep your system updated along with OS and Anti-Virus which decrease the chance of getting hacked a lot.
Instead why not assume it's a scam. Nobody sends you mail to help you those who request to chat with unknown people. There are many ways to chat why they ask for an email. Do not click on any link sent to you by e-mail. Avoid posting e-mails in public, delete conversations you do not know and save sources that you want to respond to. Not talking about this particular link, just in general before clicking any links which you are unsure about it or shortened then better analyze it first. You may find this is scam attempt here but when you are receiving emails related to your activity or profession then you should click it or you may miss your lif time opportunity.  |
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