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3741  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Champions League Discussion Thread on: September 27, 2020, 01:10:49 PM
There is no second Sevilla and no second Lopetegui. And if Sevilla managed to oppose Bayern, it does not mean that someone else can do so. It takes a couple of seasons to find a promotion for Bayern.

So you are seeing Sevilla better than teams like City, Real, Juve, PSG or Liverpool etc.? If Sevilla manages to bring Bayern into trouble, all these team can do it very well, too in my opinion. If you want to have a chance against Bayern, Sevillas tactic could be a good example how to approach the match. If you play such a high-risk formation like Schalke did last week with slow offensive full-backs against Gnabry and Sane, it's no wonder you concede 8 goals. I still see Bayern as the top-favourite for this years title but it won't be a walk in the park for them either. Not every team will be as chanceless as Barca or Schalke.

@Darkoth89 in my personal opinion this year Liverpool is a very strong contender to win the champions league, because not only have they retained their star player’s, but they have also made some wise additions too. Lastly if I had to pick a second team then I would definitely pick Bayern, but I’m also going to keep my eyes on Manchester City as I feel that Pep will deliver something big this season.

Source:

https://www.sentinelassam.com/sports-news/pep-guardiola-says-he-has-to-earn-new-man-city-contract-502632
3742  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Football Transfers Speculation, Odds and Predictions on: September 27, 2020, 10:16:25 AM
Nobody would pay top money for him in this covid stricken market. Even if the club finances are normal he would be a risk. I think best solution for all parties in this case is one year long loan deal where some club takes over Kepa wages (or at least big part of them). That way if he resurrects the career, Chelsea can hope to get some money back next year or even return him as a first team keeper.

The problem is finding a club in Premier League willing to take him. Most of them don't need to transfer in goalkeepers at this time, the ones that do saw Kepa's performance; they don't want his kind of performance in their team. He might need to be loaned to a club in EFL championship where they have less money for buying players and a cheap (by Premier League standards) loan can be made to them.

I do agree that something has to be done about Kepa quickly, Chelsea has a match against West Brom tomorrow and if they want to improve their standing they need to win this match.

Mate there are several top teams interested in Kepa loan deal how can you degrade the world most expensive keeper to championship standard we know his not that bad we all saw what he did in his first season winning the Europa league and saving 4 penalties through out the season, what kepa need is little support and right now Chelsea is the wrong place to get it considering the pressure on Lampard to make a good season.but I'm 100% sure kepa is going nowhere, bringing it Mendy was the best move Kepa needed competition to boast confidence we all saw what's happening to Tammy Abraham right now ever since Werner came on board.

I don’t know what went wrong for Kepa but what I do know is that Lampard is trying to help him, and accordingly he’s requested Cech to come to the training ground and try and help Kepa rediscover his lost form. Further should Kepa continue to fail then Mendy will be automatically selected over Kepa, however I yet feel that Kepa will be able retain his spot in the playing 11.

Source:

https://www.thescore.com/eng_fed/news/2028930/lampard-cech-helping-chelsea-solve-goalkeeping-issues
3743  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Italian League Prediction Thread (Serie A) on: September 27, 2020, 07:35:43 AM
Inter Won  Angry
...
The game for Inter was Crazy they did an epic comeback they were losing in the last 10 minutes  Angry
I missed this match...
I just saw on the news that 2 Inter goals came in '87 & '89 minute. I think the goal in the minute '3 kouame is the fastest goal of the season.

Yeah, Atalanta still proofing if they are have a quality as the top 3 last season. Players positioning is Very good, also supported passing from midfielder also good. Nothing change with atalanta, they are still consistent and i wish they can be the first team who can stopped Juventus and take the Serie-a title than inter.

It's true Atalanta played very well by beating Torino, proving they still deserve to be in the top 3 in Serie A. I agree that good player
positioning and passing are the keys to Atalanta's victory. And Alejandro Gomez deserved to be the man of the match in that match,
with one goal and two assists. But it is still too early to expect Atalanta to stop Juventus from winning the Serie A title this season.
Because in my opinion Inter Milan is still the strongest candidate to become the champion of Serie A this season after Juventus.

@Renampun Inter Milan has a strong squad, and this match shows that they’re finally ready to challenge Juventus for the title. Also it’s early days but the way Inter Milan scored those late goals shows that Conte has finally been able to shape them in the way he wants, and now I’m sincerely hoping that he can dethrone Juventus and help Inter Milan win the league title.

Source:

https://www.skysports.com/football/inter-vs-fiorentina/434337
3744  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: ODI cricket and general cricketing discussion [self - mod] on: September 27, 2020, 04:32:16 AM
I don't agree. Laxman, Dravid, Sachin.etc were legendary players. But they failed very frequently while playing abroad, especially in England and Australia. If you check the stats, then you can see that the current Indian team has the highest win percentage for test matches that were played outside the Indian sub-continent. Back then, the batsmen were world class. Now both the batsmen and the bowlers are among the world's best.
Since you are talking about stats, do you know Sachin averages 53.2 in Australia and 54.31 in England on the other hand Dravid averages 38.68 in Australia and 60.94 in England while Laxman averages 44.14 in Australia and 34.47 in England. India had good batting line up but the bowlers were weak and if you look at the current team they had the best bowlers in world cricket who are able to trouble any team.

@SaShuRaJaVu I’m not a much into stats, but yes these three legendary Indian player’s really used to trouble Australia and England bowlers a lot even in away games. Also Rahul Dravid is called the wall for a reason, and who can forget Laxman’s love for Australian bowler’s because he used to always score against them.


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For a batsman who Ian Chappell described aptly through his famous quote- “Team in trouble, who would you turn to other than Dravid- it’s hardly a surprise that one of Dravid’s finest knocks came against a behemoth of an Aussie side that too, at Down Under.


Sources:

https://rapidleaks.com/sports/cricket/flashback-2003-2nd-test-india-australia-rahul-dravid-the-wall/

http://www.holdingwilley.com/article/the-diary/eight-vvs-laxman-classics-vs-australia


3745  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 26, 2020, 05:23:45 PM
SRH vs KKR, after the first innings SRH scored only 142 for the loss of four wickets, they failed to post big score even when they have wickets in the hand.ANy one think this score is enough to defend KKR's decent batting line up?

No, this score is not enough to defend. I am surprised that Sunrisers Hyderabad had wickets in hand and yet they were not able to post a total near 180+.
Kolkata Knight Riders should easily win this match.

Edit: Narine is gone

Seems KKR as well struggling because they also lost three wickets just for 53 but the required run rate is just over than run a ball so no need to go for big shots, just playing sensibly from now on will give them 2 points in their table. Wink

@mersal now KKR need 30 runs in 30 balls and they have around 7 wickets in hand, hence I’m expecting them to play with minimum risks and secure those points. Also SRH will now be cursing themselves for playing slow, and not taking risks to score those extra runs which would have really helped them at this stage of the game.

Source:

https://www.cricbuzz.com/live-cricket-scores/30365/kkr-vs-srh-8th-match
3746  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2020/2021 on: September 26, 2020, 01:39:42 PM
+Brighton vs Man utd:

Brighton has an impressive start to the season not same for Man utd, I would predict both team to score

Manchester united was already bad last season and they didn't make any good changes for this season, which in my opinion Manchester united will not be able to compete with many teams. I would not be surprised if they lost again today. i prefer to watch the first minutes of this game to see if i place any bet because even to go to both team to score I am in doubt because it is possible that manchester united will lose the game and not be able to score at least 1 goal
this is the hardest game to predict the result, I will not make any bets

I have never witnessed so much drama in a premier league match than I just witnessed in the Manchester United vs Brighton match, and Manchester United had to thank VAR and the goal post for helping them secure the full three points.

Furthermore I feel for Brighton because they deserved the 3 points, and what’s ironic is that they levelled in the 94th minute, and Manchester United were awarded a penalty after the referee blew the final whistle.

As a Manchester United fan I’m disappointed with today’s performance, and and as a football fan I’m really upset in the manner the last penalty was awarded to Manchester United, because in my personal opinion they deserved to lose this match due to their poor performance on the field.

Source:

https://www.skysports.com/football/brighton-vs-man-utd/428857
3747  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Thoughts on Trump's UN speech? on: September 26, 2020, 10:10:08 AM
the CDC said if was spreadable in january........ but trump did nothing until march.....
trump loses argument

as for other blames towards china
china shut down its border promptly and grounded its planes in january. made hospitals by february

trump had to make an order HIMSELF to organise repatriation flights to get americans out of china because china wasnt sending them(china were trying to keep it from spreading)
trump however also did not then do any self isolation or track and trace on those repatriates when they got to america.
trump also didnt do anything precautionary until march..

so while people try to spread myths about it being a man made plan to release a virus into a wetmarket(sorry it wasnt) but while idiots try to push that myth. the facts that china closed borders and stopped the spread at their end. and trump override that precaution.. is all on trump.. not china

the reason UK government is not pushing the blame china game is because UK government realise their mistakes of doing repatriation flights

it would have been far cheaper to just give 50,000 americans an extended vacation in china. fully paid. than to have just brought them back to america and set them free to spread it

@franky1 your arguments make sense because most of the country’s have refused to call it Chinese virus, and most if not all country’s are guilty of bringing their people back and letting them roam free in January or February end. Also Trump knowns that if he stops putting blame on China, then the blame will automatically shift on his ineffectiveness to deal with the virus, hence I don’t expect him to stop targeting China over this virus anytime soon.

Sources:

https://www.bloombergquint.com/politics/trump-unable-to-escape-virus-fallout-as-his-own-words-haunt-him

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/analysis-whats-behind-trumps-china-attacks/article31502183.ece

3748  Economy / Gambling / Re: CryptoBet Casino -Play your favorite games with crypto currency ! on: September 26, 2020, 07:07:13 AM

Do you mind giving us some screenshot here of what happened maybe conversation of you and the support of this casino. I think we should wait for their response here so they could clarify things.

It's been 16 days but he never posted anything about his accusations, I'd like to think that he is just a loser here and just want to release his anger for losing a lot of money on Cryptobet, there are gamblers like that who throw a lot of bad accusations from social media because they cannot accept that they loss a lot of money, or maybe he is still gathering materials that he can post in the scam section but until he show us something we should ignore this, he can come here and messes this thread but that will give him a bad rep.
Their explanation is not very complete what is shown here and the OP has been inactive in the last few days could also raise their suspicions because the team cannot clarify the allegations, and I think he should be active here so that many complaints that have occurred can be resolved. waiting for a reply from support would be long and inefficient.
They said they could not withdraw money from the cryptobet meaning their money was on hold and the finance department board did not confirm the withdrawal.

Unresolved cases like this and not knowing what really happened after, will give you doubt if the team is serious in addressing their player's issues, whether small or big one.
If it is the player's fault, they should clarify and give a final statement, so it will give assurance to other players that they are here to support their players.
And not to push them away. The admin should be fast on this kind of issue, because it will reflect on their reputation as a casino.

@robelneo these type of accusations are increasing a lot, but when asked for proof the accuser will silently disappear, and I feel that if someone doesn’t post pictures in his scam accusation then his accusations should be ignored straight away. Furthermore in this case I’m being a little paranoid, but op has not brought a copper membership to show images of his casino, and that’s enough reason for me to stay away from his casino.
3749  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Official betting partner of ARSENAL FC 🚀 on: September 26, 2020, 04:44:17 AM

With Man U 1.79, Chelsea 1.38, Tottenham 1.47, Man City 1.29, and Liverpool 1.49 - some Sportsbook managers will be walking around with a rabbit's foot and a 4 leaf clover this weekend  Shocked Shocked


I'm not sure I can trust Man United with my money right now especially not away. I think I might go for the draw on that game but Brighton did well against Newcastle away last week beating them 3-0 so a home win wouldn't surprise me at all but it's not something I'd back.

Don't forget even Chelsea and Spurs have not exactly been wholly convincing. They're the favorites and there is every reason for that, but if they just have a lapse in defense as they sometimes do, it could even be a draw. So for me, that's a very tricky parlay that doesn't feel like it's worth the risk, So funny to see Man United at 1.8 against... Brighton!

@hilariousetc even though I’m a Manchester United fan I’m not comfortable placing any bets on them, because Solskjaer just doesn’t understand which player’s to pick for his starting eleven. @slaman29 Tottenham and Chelsea have improved a lot, Kane and Son are scoring goals at free fill for Tottenham, and Chelsea’s new boys are settling in well so I expect these two to win their matches easily.

Sources:

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/man-utd-palace-team-news-18963583

https://www.goal.com/en-in/news/son-and-kane-make-premier-league-history-in-tottenham/90hb9c6pm2td1kcvspenx4vgp

https://onefootball.com/en/news/hat-trick-hero-kai-havertz-has-quickly-silenced-his-critics-31149312
3750  Economy / Gambling / Re: Cloudbet | Bitcoin Casino & Sportsbook | The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site on: September 25, 2020, 04:49:13 PM
I still don't understand how they let you create an account with them from a restricted jurisdiction. I just connected my VPN to an IP address from London and this is what I get when I try loading their website



Meaning i have even zero chance of creating and account or even accessing the website from this restricted location

Maybe what cloudbet can improve on is not to let any player from a restricted location to place even a single bet. Just let them only withdraw their deposit to avoid such disputes because one thing am sure about is efxes  was counting on those winnings, and he won't be happy with the decision not to refund him anything.

Good point how they've created an account and how he continued to play in their platform if he is located in a place where you don't allow access, it's not reasonable, it's hard for a player to accept the fact the he deserves his winnings but the gambling operators are circumventing
the rules and the circumstances to favour them, he deserves his money even the one he deposited like what logfiles stated  

Guys there’s lots of misrepresentation of facts here 1) the op submits documents of US residence, but then claims he’s not from US 2) He says he played from a country which is allowed as per Cloudbet terms, but refuses to disclose those countries to them.

As a gambler it always hurts to see whenever a fellow gambler looses his/her money, but in this particular case I don’t know who’s entirely right because Cloudbet are within their rights to ban his account because of those USA documents. However I can’t stop thinking had he used his original documents would Cloudbet have accepted it and allowed him to withdraw his funds?.

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I'm also not located in the USA, I bet only when traveling abroad and located in legal jurisdictions. You need to make this right.

On top of this, they are now saying it's nothing to do with the misgrade but it's because I provided verification documents from a US citizen.  And that the decision is final that they are voiding all the bets because of this.  This is unacceptable.  They also said that I am welcome back if I am not on US soil, but I haven't been on US soil this whole time, and the verification documents I provided were playing it safe because I do not like to provide personal documents.  


Cloudbet terms:

https://www.cloudbet.com/en/help/terms

Just as I was completing my post OP has has now claimed that he’s a resident of USA, but if you’ll see earlier he claimed that he wasn’t a resident of USA, and this new post has once again made this matter more complicated, but I’ll hope that Cloudbet will try and resolve this quickly.

I can confirm that the only thing that applies to me is that I am a citizen of the United States.  I travel abroad when playing poker on places like GG poker and party poker and betting on restricted USA sites.  My only proof of residence for the most part recently an apartment back in the USA.

As I stated I do use a VPN when connecting to these sites, and sometimes it defaults to USA but that's all I can think of.  When providing documents the most recent document I had on hand was an expired internet bill that went to my home address in USA and since I haven't been there for about 6 months I just stopped paying internet and that was like the last bill I could find.  I guess it was my mistake but I am looking for ways to prove I have been living abroad and working online in France and Mexico.

Regardless, it is definitely an out and it's not good practice.  It causes all sorts of problems when you freeze and take funds from someone.  This needs to be resolved somehow.  Please, I really really really would like to just move on.  If there's any way you can pay me out, cloudbet, I will appreciate it.  I have sent in the note from my landlord and let me know if there's anything else to show you that I am a US citizen living abroad during these pandemic times.  I appreciate it so much.
3751  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: UEFA Europa League Discussion Thread on: September 25, 2020, 01:21:31 PM
thursday acca, 4 fold at 6/1




@tonahawk9 did you read the news where Mourinho claimed that the goal post was short, and my first instinct was that this is another typical Jose Mourinho sarcastic statement, but in the end he wasn’t being sarcastic at all and it was indeed an error, however foul play was ruled out. Also I feel that Tottenham are finally starting to click, and if they continue to win games like this then they can definitely be considered as a strong contender to win the Europa League .

Source:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11675/12080824/tottenham-boss-jose-mourinho-reveals-goalpost-change-before-europa-league-tie
3752  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Tennis League All Thread on: September 25, 2020, 10:07:59 AM
I really hope the rising numbers of virus cases doesn't put a stop to the French Open as it looks like many European countries are now starting a second wave which is unfortunate.  
Until now the second wave has not influenced the organizers' decision, the organizers believed enough in allowing spectators to attend matches at the French Open, from the articles I read around 1500/day in two main fields.
https://www.skysports.com/tennis/news/12110/12066233/french-open-2020-spectators-to-be-allowed-despite-increase-in-coronavirus-cases
The final decision has been made. Only 1000 spectators will be allowed each day and the amount of staff members will be reduced.
1000 spectators, it's very few. The stands will look empty.

@Saint-loup I would consider this is a big win for the spectators, and I hope that the organisers will ensure those spectators will strictly follow social distancing norms. Furthermore a full packed stadium was never going to be possible, so even if the stands do look empty I yet feel that it’s a big win for the spectators who’ll be watching it from the stands.
3753  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: September 25, 2020, 07:25:33 AM
Looks like Fortunejack is having a hard time now with technical issues on the server. What about funds from customers, how can you guarantee this is safe after these pages:


@Arcas these are normal downtime errors which are faced by all the sites routinely whenever they’re making some changes, and these errors have nothing to do with their wallets so I don’t understand why you feel that their users funds are not safe?.

It is really sad that we are not going to get premier league but get champions league, but honestly after a certain period we are going to have weekly champions league as well, it will not be very little, of course it is not going to be 38 games or whatever, of course it is going to have less weeks or basically less games, but for a short bursts there it will be exactly like premier league where there is 7+ games per week, which is why this could be exactly like how it was but for shorter period of time.

No matter how it is done, we are talking about it coming back and I rather take this over not having it any day of the week, with champions league we are at least getting it back and that is very important for both marketing and also hype about the promotion.

Why sad? Go deposit some money and bet on the games like we all do, there are plenty of other promotions out there and FJ's already said they'll do a mate for Champs League. Last season's Invincibles was really special shame it got cancelled, which reminds me btw FJ, we never did get prizes paid out for that one, I distinctly recall getting at least a 4-streak win;) Anyone else got paid out from this?

@buwaytress I believe that he’s sad because like me he’s too missing researching about the player’s and then selecting them, however I guess it’s time to move on now and look forward to the champions league competition.

Source:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTTP/Status/500
3754  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Trump Sued By Trump: Donald Sued By Niece Mary on: September 25, 2020, 04:16:30 AM
BBC News Website: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54284360

US President Donald Trump's niece has filed a lawsuit, accusing him and two family members of fraud and conspiracy.


"Mary Trump alleges that Mr Trump, his sister Maryanne Trump Barry and brother Robert Trump, who died in August, cheated her out of an inheritance.

Ms Trump, who in July released a tell-all memoir about the president, is seeking to recover millions of dollars she claims to have lost.

Neither Mr Trump nor his siblings have publicly commented on the issue.
"


Here is the 52 page lawsuit that was filed today: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/mary-trump-lawsuit/c50f4719d61f9c9a/full.pdf


In Part 3 of the lawsuit it states: "They threatened to bankrupt Mary’s interests and terminated the health insurance that was keeping her nephew—an infant with cerebral palsy alive. Then they presented her with a stack of fraudulent valuations and a so-called settlement agreement, and forced her to sign. All told, they fleeced her of tens of millions of dollars or more"

This lawsuit probably will not settled out of Court, this is another situation involving Trump that will get messy...


and what does this teach people
if you want to transfer wealth between relatives tax free. treat it as a loan with a no repayment terms.
this is legal

..
also legal
'the grift' having a supplier that has one price but offering invoices for a higher price to your customer. this after all is what wholesale<>retail / dropship<>ebay / contractors<>subcontractors do.

if you didnt research the true value of products services and you agreed to pay the prices invoiced to you by the middleman. then thats your fault.

i dont like trump but his financial advisors do know the loop holes well

the bit i dont agree with is the threats of bankruptcy and the withdrawal of healthcare insurance.. thats just bad on all human levels

@JollyGood since I couldn’t read the entire case file I found an article which had skimmed it down, and the very first question that came to my mind was the timing of the filing i.e. so close to the elections. Secondly let’s assume she’s right and she does a have a right to sue Trump, but this happened in 1999 and I don’t think that the court will accept her case in 2020 because the statute of limitations shall apply.

Sources:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statute_of_limitations#United_States

https://apnews.com/article/new-york-city-robert-trump-business-new-york-lawsuits-ffc4f3ebe5f2042bcc65b396e547ce4b
3755  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE.me - Crypto Casino 🎰 Now Accepting EOS | Roll Hunt | Bonuses on: September 24, 2020, 05:11:15 PM
There we go then. Proof of assets is available. Company ownership available. Reporting on hold till launch of new version. Updates found on Discord.

Could someone PM me the link to the discord chat? I find all of this highly troubling.

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I don't know if they have a discord channel but if you have an issue you can send a message to their support here https://www.bitdice.me/contact or you can try to message Boxxob and ask about your queries, maybe that is the fastest way to contact them for any inquiries or site related problem.

I found this:

You can join the discord channel at https://discord.gg/EkGbYrH


Afaik kolloh is someone who are active in bitdice but I'm not really sure what is his position in bitdice team.
Above post is on a topic about bitdice investors, so probably this one is what is referred by slaman29 unless there is other discord channel/group of bitdice.


@ultrloa that link you shared won’t work because now support is offered via intercom on the site, so all one needs to do is login, and then use the intercom to connect with the support team. @pascal257 you don’t need to worry as that claim is baseless, and @panjul07 yes that’s the correct discord channel link.

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By the way that support email no longer works. We handle support through Intercom now so on-site live chat is the best means to reach support.

3756  Other / Politics & Society / Re: US Presidential Election: Trump Will Not Commit to Peaceful Transfer of Power on: September 24, 2020, 01:01:27 PM
BBC News: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-us-2020-54274115

Mr Trump was asked by a reporter on Wednesday evening if he would commit to a peaceful transfer of power "win, lose or draw" to Democrat Joe Biden. The president currently trails his challenger in national opinion polls with 41 days to go until the election.

"I've been complaining very strongly about the ballots," Mr Trump, a Republican, said. "And the ballots are a disaster."

When the journalist countered that "people are rioting", Mr Trump interjected: "Get rid of the ballots, and you'll have a very - you'll have a very peaceful - there won't be a transfer, frankly, there'll be a continuation."



It seems Trump intends to claim undisputed victory if he win the election and he intends to claim foul-play and cheating if he loses. Quite likely it seems Biden will play the same game but Trump is the incumbent whereas Biden is not. Yes this will go to the Supreme Court but how many of Judges will be Republican appointees? How many will be Trump supporters? Will they remain unbiased?

@JollyGood this is inevitable now Trump is not going to give up, and thanks to the additional judge he’ll possibly reverse the election results if he loses and then continue to stay in power. Also I had written about this possibility in another thread, and day by day I’m getting convinced that he’ll use courts help to stay in power which will definitely hurt the American people’s sentiments.

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Also if he were to loose the elections then too he can use his power to appoint a judge till January 2021, so he can appoint the judge post the election results too, and then use the court to reverse the election results, and I know it’s easy to say this and it’s difficult to execute it, but my gut feeling says that this is what he plans to do.

Sources:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-ruth-bader-ginsburgs-death-could-mean-for-2020-and-the-supreme-court/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/18/ruth-bader-ginsburg-supreme-court-faq-explainer
 
3757  Economy / Economics / UK’s economy will lose a good amount of money if football clubs shut. on: September 24, 2020, 10:12:55 AM
UK government’s decision to scrap the plans that would allow fans to be back in the stadium post October 1st, has forced the football clubs to claim that if fans continue to remain absent then they could be forced to shut down their clubs.

Furthermore if no middle ground can be reached and clubs are forced to shut down then it’ll definitely harm UK’s economy, because so many people will loose their jobs in an instant, and government will also lose the taxes that it would have normally gained from those clubs, hence it’s important that they find a middle ground soon.

Lastly it’s a debatable question but is the UK government right as they’re considering people’s safety first due to the sudden increase in covid cases, or are the clubs right who're fearing for their finances, and not bothering about covid spreading if fans are allowed back?.

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Now they know that there’s no fans coming in probably for six months and it’s not just the loss of fan income through the turnstiles, it’s all the other commercial income that follows it: matchday hospitality, advertising, sponsorship, weddings, events and what have you.

So, maybe now they might see that the situation is real, that a number of clubs are going to go bust very, very soon because they’re not going to have the cash to pay the wages and other overheads.


Sources:

https://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/sport/many-clubs-wont-be-able-to-withstand-lack-of-fans-at-games-efl-chairmen-warn/

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-54270435

https://www.newsandstar.co.uk/sport/national/18741613.fa-warns-huge-impact-coronavirus-restrictions-football/
3758  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: English Premier League Season: 2020/2021 on: September 24, 2020, 06:44:44 AM
Fans still can’t go to stadiums and clubs are currently discussing what to do in this situation.
BBC Sport brings this news today: ''Premier League clubs are considering ways of letting season ticket holders access matches not due to be broadcast live on television following the Government's decision to scrap the idea of letting fans back into stadiums at the beginning of next month.''

The clubs are in a very difficult situation after the government's decision that fans will not be able to go to stadiums for at least another 6 months.
Clubs want fans at matches and believe that a limited number of fans could safely go to stadiums but have not yet been able to convince the authorities.

The big question is when will we finally see the fans in the stadiums again.
Read more about it here: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54229967

@Daniel91 indeed the clubs are really desperate for the fans to be allowed back in the stadium as soon as possible, because they’re bleeding lots of revenue, and if the fans continue to remain absent then many clubs will suffer massive losses.

These are the full time results for the EFL CUP games this evening:



@JollyGood looks like Chelsea’s new signing Havertz has finally gotten into action, because I was starting to get worried whether he would be able to replicate his old form or no, but now he’s silenced all his critics by scoring a hattrick in yesterday’s game.

Sources:

https://www.skysports.com/football/chelsea-vs-barnsley/report/436400

https://talksport.com/football/763510/arsenal-man-united-west-ham-the-cost-income-premier-league-club-fans-stadium/
3759  Economy / Gambling / Re: BITDICE.me - Crypto Casino 🎰 Now Accepting EOS | Roll Hunt | Bonuses on: September 24, 2020, 03:59:37 AM
There we go then. Proof of assets is available. Company ownership available. Reporting on hold till launch of new version. Updates found on Discord.

All in all, unfounded as usual, and I think we can all appreciate the responses from Darkstar and BoXXoB.

Proof of assets is available.
Where?

Company ownership available.
Who owns Kairo Overseas N.V.?

Oh and link still doesn't open for me, whoever posted it somewhere above.
You still can check by yourself with going to http://www.curacao-chamber.cw/services/registry/search-company and enter BitDice N.V. into the Name field



@slaman29 yes this was another attempt to tarnish Bitdice image but it has spectacularly failed, and I’m not surprised because I knew this attempt was going to fail right from the start.

@BKB-token did you even bother reading @BoXXoB post, where he has already clarified that Alex owns Kairo Overseas N.V so there’s no change in ownership.

New information available in the site footer.
You mean bitdice has been changed into new hands?

Same owners, a different company.

3760  Economy / Gambling / Re: 🚀 Sportsbet.io - Official betting partner of ARSENAL FC 🚀 on: September 23, 2020, 04:51:13 AM
Now talk about big wins to be made here, if these teams' performances don't change much over the rest of the season!



Hi Guys,

Who is everyone's top 4?

Im going:

1. Liverpool
2. Man City
3. Chelsea
4. Tottenham..

lets see!

regards,

Steve.
Sportbset.io

@sportsbet.io there will be lots of competition for the fourth spot, and I’m expecting a surprise contender i.e. Everton to claim that spot, because they have started this season brilliantly, and if they continue performing like this then they’ll definitely end up in the fourth spot. Further I feel that Arsenal may finish at top 5 or top 6, but as usual I fear that they’ll start dropping points in the second half of the season. Lastly Tottenham can only finish in top four if Bale is fully fit, and scores in each and every match or create assists for other player’s, however given his injury record I don’t think that he’ll be playing all the matches even post his recovery.

Sources:

https://khelnow.com/football/five-reasons-everton-top-four-premier-league

https://www.justarsenal.com/turbulent-times-at-arsenal-is-there-a-way-out/227300 (this happened last year too, they start good but then lose their way)

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/fantasy-football/gareth-bale-injury-tottenham-hotspur-how-long-fit-play-when-return-date-655664
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