Happy Thanksgiving Mr. President!!!

Alright alright, let's try to calm things down a bit... Situation seems to be resolved -- let's not rip off the freshly placed band-aid already.


He's now deleted all his negs so that's good.


That is an understandable viewpoint. Thanks.

@csmiami: thanks for your expanded explanation
@JollyGood: thanks for removing the red trust on Gyrsur


Is that really plagiarism tho? No, its not. If it was, why shouldn't accounts that do this be banned from the forum?

"the practice of taking someone else's work or ideas and passing them off as one's own."

You are wearing a ChipMixer signature -- does that mean you are attempting to pass the "work" off as your own? You are wearing it with permission from ChipMixer, I understand, but how does that make it not plagiarism? At least Gyrsur attempted to put his signature through a text spinner, lol.

Regardless, you know full well that plagiarism isn't a reasonable excuse to leave red trust. There's a much better case to be made for "theft."


Lets go through these 1 by 1.

Alttradex - this guy stole a signature to promote his ICO; his intention was to profit directly from use of the signature. AFAIK, Gyrsur is not an employee of zkSNACKs Ltd., the company that performs the CoinJoins using Wasabi Wallet. He had no intention of profiting off somebody else's work. Nor did he use the signature for the purposes of a campaign.

biy - same thing, copied w/o permission in order to promote their own project

Crypto_Qv9 - same thing

Untold - this guy doesn't have any negative feedback. He has a neutral from yahoo that reads

Basically, I can see how what Gyrsur did was annoying, but he had no intentions of acquiring a profit from his actions, and once reprimanded, he removed his signature (even if only after putting up a fight). I don't see how this equates to trade risk.

As far as Gyrsur's actions in the last 12 hours are concerned, its apparent that he isn't DT material, which I don't think he minds so much as he doesn't have a custom trust list, and that situation has corrected itself. It's ultimately up to Gyrsur to be amenable enough to encourage DarkStar_ to "let bygones be bygones," but unfortunately things didn't transpire that way... Oh well, I tried.

Thanks JollyGood and DarkStar for chiming in.

Even when I agree with you, you're still arguing with me? That doesn't make sense. I just said I can't argue with it. What more do you want?


Honestly I don't like it when people pretend a knockoff of a knockoff lead by an absolute fraud is Bitcoin. I understand they have a right to say that, and I have a right to ridicule them for it. Letting people shill for a scam uninterrupted here is not something I'm going to just dismiss. If you don't like it, just put me on ignore. sgbett also has that ability.

Regardless, its not me that's proving sgbett wrong, its both time and reality, and I don't know why you think I would care what you find tiresome. I just find it entertaining when people are simultaneously so confident and so wrong. Perhaps I'm just envious at that type of ability.

Have a great Thanksgiving!

I've never heard anyone say that before. What is your rationalization for that statement?




And I can't find the theymos quote for it but:


My rationalization is that the negative was incorrect in the first place, so I am simply attempting to undo that. I don't engage in this practice often but this time I think it is warranted.

Ultimately my post here is more of a request that DarkStar_ and JollyGood consider re-evaluating their negative trust on Gyrsur. I'd rather attempt to resolve the issue this way rather than excluding them from my trust network as they of course contribute more good than bad overall. I'm also open to hearing arguments as to why the negative feedback should remain. As things stand, I just can't see how it relates to trustworthiness of trade activity on the forum.

Let's start uploading the entire forum to the BSV blockchain, if only to make BSV nodes require 20 TB of storage.

Very unbecoming of gentlemen.

I do have to wonder what exactly spurred this topic. I know it has to be something.


You're unironically arguing for more government. How do additional regulations promote "more freedom"? Sounds like your preconceptions of what "leftists are trying to achieve" are 100% in line with your own goals. If you want to tell private businesses what they can and cannot do outside of pre-existing law, you are the authoritarian here. Sorry if Parler isn't working out for you but you don't get to dictate what social media companies can do just because they don't cater to your (supposed) political ideals.

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Here at the forum, what are the true end goals? (besides those for bounty hunters and everybody else who is here solely to make money). I'd like to think its about maintaining an environment that is conducive to productive conversation about bitcoin, cryptocurrency and the blockchain -- an environment that fosters innovation and ideally a sense of community.

To do this, a balance needs to be found between minimizing the suppression of ideas while making sure the forum is not overrun by spammers, scammers and trolls. If we had no mods this place would be a complete mess! At the same time, heavy handed moderation (which I can't say I've ever experienced much of) is no good either.

So here we are - pretty much same as its always been, plus bounty hunters, lol - working on finding a balance that keeps the forum both readable and free. So what's the problem exactly, LoyceV? Forgot what we were talking about here, if I ever really knew in the first place.

At least the second most popular poll response is the one that actually makes sense: banning bots.

I just came across this issue recently after wondering why Gyrsur had -2 trust.

This is not an acceptable use of the trust system and I will be leaving him a counter-feedback until his negatives are removed.

- While trollish, his actions don't imply that he would be untrustworthy when it comes to conducting any sort of business on the forum.

- He's not wearing the signature anymore.

He's been here since 2012 and doesn't deserve to have his forum reputation tarnished in this manner.

Yep, you were right about that and OP is now banned. I didn't report him but somebody else reported his other plagiarized posts.

Let this be a reminder to newbies and everybody else about the dangers of plagiarism... your account is likely to go up in smoke if you play with fire (well I dunno if that's the right expression as it takes more guts to play with fire than lazily copy/paste text, but anyway).

Sorry buddy but that isn't an option either. You won't be unbanned.

I tried to warn you about adding sources to your posts, and you did for that one, but then you just continued on like it didn't matter.  

There aren't very many strict rules on the forum, but you managed to break one of them, a few times even after being warned...

No longer needed

I'm not entirely sure what he means by "self-hosted crypto wallets" but if it means what I think it means, fuck that.

"Oi! You got a license for that there Titcoin wallet?"

(Titcoin is my go-to when thinking up an obscure shitcoin on the spot.)

Is it possible Hal Finney coded that client?

In your 2nd bitcoin.org link, Satoshi writes the word "synchronising" in the entry from "01 Nov 2008". Americans never spell synchronizing as "synchronising" unless they are being cheeky (my browser spellcheck even underlines the British version as a spelling error). And then he uses the european date format.

Finally some humor at my level of comprehension. Most of the stuff on this web site sails right over my head.

Truth is I ignored nullius not because he's both insulting and boring at the same but because I cower in the face of his steep intellect. I don't have logical rebuttals to his tactical verbal assaults and I mask that by claiming that his posts are too long and uninteresting.*


I dunno. Nullius does have a pretty unnatural affinity for Lauda. I have no evidence of this but my theory is the Lauda account was controlled by multiple people, which would explain the bipolar personality. Nullius' writing style is of course markedly different than Lauda's, but maybe they were toning it down a bit when posting as Lauda.

For the record, I never had anything personal against Lauda and in their last couple years we got along pretty well. She/he/they even came to my defense a few times when it was needed, and I appreciated that.


*does it need to be said that this was sarcasm?

I've supported your flag. It requires 2 more DT votes now. I was a bit surprised you didn't go with the Type 1 flag but after reading through everything Type 2 is entirely appropriate here. There's too many fly-by-night exchanges as it is; one that is dishonest right off the bat surely doesn't deserve a special with-holding of judgment.

Exchange has disappeared. Yet another exit scam by a shit exchange that hired a series of bumping services to generate 70 pages of spammy drivel bullshit. This is a prime example of why the presence of a bumping service = scam project, 99% of the time.

TBH I was just messing with OP and he knows it. He's a long-time scammer who makes up for his lack of intelligence and morals with excessive rudeness. It's one of his hallmark moves. If you'd like, check my trust feedback -- every negative entry that contains the word "pedophile" was left by him.


I don't recommend this. He will pull you into Telegram and insist that the trade be done with escrow. Meanwhile he is the escrow. He's done it several times over a period of 4-5 years.

You're pretty funny my man (no homo). I'm giving you one extra merit for your humor.


Yep. You're exactly right here. Sometimes I just know when an alt is an alt and I'm rarely wrong. Proving it to others is a different story which requires gathering rock solid proof or else enough patience waiting for them to slip up. However, this guy slips up every single time he writes a post. If anyone is truly interested in knowing what I'm talking about, let me know and I'll let you in on a couple secrets.


He has a lot of repressed feelings for sure which probably explains why he is such a miserable asshole. Probably not entirely his fault, though. I get the feeling his parents didn't do a very good job raising him.